When both sides in a war suck, who do you root for?

eddyatwork: When both sides in a war suck, who do you root for?

The side that is following the law?

The politicians that take money from the RIAA and MPAA need to be beaten with a rolled-up copy of the Time issue with John Gilmore's quote.

The article has been updated to reflect the fact that they took down the website for the FBfarkingI.

Balls, they have them.

sno man: I bet the RIAA took it's self down, just so they could blame Anon and "gain some sympathy"

Either way Anon should make a point of not claiming that site.

This is the beginning of the end RIAA. Welcome to the future. We don't have any place for you in it.

who the hell has sympathy for the RIAA? If in the late 90s they were smart enough to say, "hey napster, that there's some awesome shiat. gimme some of dat." all this would a pimple on the ass of history. but no, they were stupid and now they are cowards.

In all fairness, MegaUpload did have paying customers watching content that MegaUpload was not paying anybody but themselves for.

A farking ton of it.

So, they should sink that money into making films and music to pay back the creative community.

Right?

I mean seriously ANON..
The copyright office?

/thought you might need it
//Getting another batch started
///Slashies come in threes

This is getting so old. Taking down a website that almost no one visits doesn't do shiat. Hack their e-mails or something, dig up some dirt.

Reverend Monkeypants: In all fairness, MegaUpload did have paying customers watching content that MegaUpload was not paying anybody but themselves for.

A farking ton of it.

So, they should sink that money into making films and music to pay back the creative community.

Right?

f that. entertainment should be free. I should decide how much money is enough for other people, but my cubicle job should pay 100k plus benefits plus company car. fark those hollywood fat cats like those actors that have to work 3 jobs plus it's a victimless crime cuz I don't even know the people I'm farking over.

Some background information that I posted in the other thread to give people an idea of the motivation behind current anti-MU efforts by the publishing industry.

Taken directly from an article written by Kim Dotcom (new window), founder of Megaupload, last month regarding Megaupload's lawsuit against UMG.

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UMG knows that we are going to compete with them via our own music venture called Megabox.com, a site that will soon allow artists to sell their creations direct to consumers and allowing artists to keep 90% of earnings.

We have a solution called the Megakey that will allow artists to earn income from users who download music for free. Yes that's right, we will pay artists even for free downloads. The Megakey business model has been tested with over a million users and it works. You can expect several Megabox announcements next year including exclusive deals with artists who are eager to depart from outdated business models.

You need to understand that some labels are run by arrogant and outdated dinosaurs who have been in business for 1000 years. These guys think an iPad is a facial treatment, the Internet is the devil, and wired phones are still hip. They are in denial about the new realities and opportunities. They don't understand that the rip-off days are over. Artists are more educated than ever about how they are getting ripped off and how the big labels only look after themselves.

Dinosaur labels don't have the answers to today's new realities. UMG chose to willfully sabotage our campaign instead of analyzing the situation and seeing that the answers to all their problems are right in front of them.
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This should be interesting.

Bunny Deville: The article has been updated to reflect the fact that they took down the website for the FBfarkingI.

Balls, they have them.

status of OpMegaupload and personal info on MPAA chairman Chris Dodd Link (new window)

guy's gonna be getting some hatemail/calss i'm willing to bet

Will they/can they go after the people who downloaded from megaupload? Or is it different than torrent and filesharing sites?

Attacking RIAA or MPAA is one thing, but crashing the FBI website? The balls on these guys.

4chan misses their pirated porn, eh?

dragonchild: 4chan misses their pirated porn, eh?

Because everything on megaupload was pirated porn, and it was Megaupload's job to enforce other peoples' copyrights. Right, Mr. Dodd?

SirGeorgeBurkelwitzIII: Will they/can they go after the people who downloaded from megaupload? Or is it different than torrent and filesharing sites?

Even on those sites they go after uploaders.

Cool. Though this may backfire for them. One, attacking the FBI and DoJ is pretty risky. The RIAA and MPAA can't really do anything about it, but the FBI probably doesn't take kindly to being DDOSed. Two, it provides fodder to SOPA/PIPA backers. Now they can say that these internet nerds aren't just opposed to SOPA and PIPA, they actually just support piracy. They're not happy even with the laws as they are now.

RedPhoenix122: Begun, the Net Wars have.

That's right, it has begun. Which means now s the time to choose your side, you are either with Anon, or against them. If you are with them you should join them and start hacking, if you choose to be a tool of the jackboot thugs of the government you should send a message to Anon and let them know how awful they are for having a tantrum just because they can't download free anime porn games from their favorite supplier.

So right when RIAA and MPAA are getting kicked in the balls, Anonymous comes in and makes RIAA and MPAA look like victims.

How do you say "You're Not Helping Assholes" in retardese?

Megaupload sucked anyway.

LordJiro: 4chan misses their pirated porn, eh?

Because everything on megaupload was pirated porn, and it was Megaupload's job to enforce other peoples' copyrights. Right, Mr. Dodd?

What a childish fallacy. No and no. This is like a mugger (4chan) attacking a child molester (RIAA). The nature of the "victim" doesn't make the assailant an effin' hero; it's not even vigilante justice.

ATRDCI: Normally I would be on megaupload's side on this, presuming they kept up with all complaints, especially with the whole not a US citizen thing.

However, according to leaked emails (no I don't know where from), they were apparently paying people to upload pirating content, which if true (admittedly a large if), well they are just stupid.

The indictment (new window) lists the email evidence against them. They were very stupid.

/Only question is how did the feds get the emails in the first place?

BadAdviceGuy: RedPhoenix122: Begun, the Net Wars have.

That's right, it has begun. Which means now s the time to choose your side, you are either with Anon, or against them. If you are with them you should join them and start hacking, if you choose to be a tool of the jackboot thugs of the government you should send a message to Anon and let them know how awful they are for having a tantrum just because they can't download free anime porn games from their favorite supplier.

Any ideas for the next time I am in Haiti?

mantabulous: This is getting so old. Taking down a website that almost no one visits doesn't do shiat. Hack their e-mails or something, dig up some dirt.

You don't think this may have been a cover operation for something like that? Distract the IT people and set off a brazillion monitoring alarms.

SharkTrager: SirGeorgeBurkelwitzIII: Will they/can they go after the people who downloaded from megaupload? Or is it different than torrent and filesharing sites?

Even on those sites they go after uploaders.

So they don't even go after those who are doing the downloading?

AKTurkey: According to a few sites, anon says megaupload is back at http://megavideo.bz

And according to the other thread on this issue, that site could be a scam.

eddyatwork: When both sides in a war suck, who do you root for?

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At first I was going to say "Ooooo, a bunch of script-kiddies are throwing a tantrum. Now I'm scrrrd! Please, a DDoS attack is pointless, all you're doing is taking down some billboards. You're not really disrupting business."

But then I thought about it. I do IT work for a large, global company, and I realized that most of the common tools that everyone in the company uses on a daily basis are web-based apps that sit on our domain. You take down our domain with a DDoS attack and we could loose access to all kinds of things that are essential to the smooth day-to-day operation of the business, here in the US at least. Most large companies have similar infrastructure, so taking down these domains may very well have caused some considerable chaos, or at the very least annoyed the crap out of a lot of folks.

/they're still just a bunch of script-kiddies throwing a tantrum though

This inconvenienced a total of 23 people.

lisarenee3505: At first I was going to say "Ooooo, a bunch of script-kiddies are throwing a tantrum. Now I'm scrrrd! Please, a DDoS attack is pointless, all you're doing is taking down some billboards. You're not really disrupting business."

But then I thought about it. I do IT work for a large, global company, and I realized that most of the common tools that everyone in the company uses on a daily basis are web-based apps that sit on our domain. You take down our domain with a DDoS attack and we could loose access to all kinds of things that are essential to the smooth day-to-day operation of the business, here in the US at least. Most large companies have similar infrastructure, so taking down these domains may very well have caused some considerable chaos, or at the very least annoyed the crap out of a lot of folks.

/they're still just a bunch of script-kiddies throwing a tantrum though

US agencies have external and internal sites. Most likely, Anon only attacked the external site, since those are the ones the public can see, and the whole point of these attacks is to be visible. Taking these sites down, however, probably won't have any meaningful effect on the agency in question.