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(Washington Post)   Wealthy Americans showing their love of country by renouncing their US citizenship before anti tax evasion law takes effect   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 370
    More: Obvious, tax laws, Marc Rich, political life, dual citizenship, Dan Balz, TPMDC  
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2012-01-19 03:22:16 PM  
i'm cool with this...perhaps they'll move to that libertarian paradise of somalia
 
2012-01-19 03:24:30 PM  
Then seize all their assets held in America.
 
2012-01-19 03:24:50 PM  
It was my understanding that "Even wealthy millionaires wanted Obama to raise taxes."

Well that's what I heard.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-01-19 03:24:58 PM  
Sounds good to me. If they aren't willing to pull their weight then let them GTFO.
 
2012-01-19 03:25:56 PM  
It's a sad state of affairs when a man has to renounce his country in order to protect his family's well being from government theft
 
2012-01-19 03:26:29 PM  

GORDON: It was my understanding that "Even wealthy millionaires wanted Obama to raise taxes."

Well that's what I heard.


The left has their own FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW's
 
2012-01-19 03:26:30 PM  
Well, bye.

/screw those unpatriotic leeches
//I'm not even American
 
2012-01-19 03:26:54 PM  
I'll be doing the same.

I'm a dual citizen who was born in the USA and living in Canada since I was 5 years old. To be told that I could face fines and or jail time for not filing taxes in the USA is horseshiat. It's bad enough that I need an American passport to visit the USA instead of my Canadian passport which I have had all my life.
 
2012-01-19 03:27:04 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: It's a sad state of affairs when a man has to renounce his country in order to protect his family's well being from government theft


Paying your fair share of taxes in a country where you are treated like infallible gods is not theft.
 
2012-01-19 03:27:42 PM  

Aarontology: Then seize all their assets held in America.


Under what possible grounds, besides 'I want it, I want it, I want it'?
 
2012-01-19 03:28:20 PM  
We're hearing that, perhaps in response to the law, more U.S. citizens overseas are deciding to renounce their citizenship....

It's not clear how many people have opted for this solution to avoid paying taxes...


Is it too much to ask for a little data or, short of that, a quote from someone knowledgeable, or an anecdote, or something?
 
2012-01-19 03:28:24 PM  
You mean avoision laws...right?
 
2012-01-19 03:29:22 PM  
inb4 John Galt
 
2012-01-19 03:29:24 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: It's a sad state of affairs when a man has to renounce his country in order to protect his family's well being from government theft


8/10
 
2012-01-19 03:29:40 PM  
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, assholes...
 
2012-01-19 03:29:40 PM  
This is why we need 0% taxes on rich people. Once you hit a certain level of wealth you are better than everyone else anyway. Why can't we leave the job creators alone?


I mean they already pay 5474% of the taxes in this country. They just want everyone to do their fair share. The current class war has nothing to do with greed. It's all about fairness.


Right guys?
 
2012-01-19 03:29:42 PM  

A Fark Handle: i'm cool with this...perhaps they'll move to that libertarian paradise of somalia


If your rich enough, you don't lose rights or have to live anywhere shiatty.
Citizenship is just a matter of paperwork.

Laws are for the rest of us.
 
2012-01-19 03:29:47 PM  
I read teh article. It are just the people who are using offshore accounts to evade taxes. Nothing of value will be lost.
 
2012-01-19 03:29:49 PM  
I thought the wealthy weren't paying any tax anyway?
 
2012-01-19 03:30:06 PM  
It's not clear how many people have opted for this solution to avoid paying taxes.

Is this like how 1/2 of Hollywood vowed to move to Canada if Bush got reelected?
 
2012-01-19 03:30:23 PM  

mitEj: Smeggy Smurf: It's a sad state of affairs when a man has to renounce his country in order to protect his family's well being from government theft

Paying your fair share of taxes in a country where you are treated like infallible gods is not theft.


Responding to obvious trolls is not a good expenditure of time.
 
2012-01-19 03:30:31 PM  
So what's so good about being an American again?
 
2012-01-19 03:30:45 PM  
If you aren't living in the US, why would you be required to pay taxes in the US?
 
2012-01-19 03:31:40 PM  

BarleyGnome: If you aren't living in the US, why would you be required to pay taxes in the US?


Not familiar with the IRS motto?

Maybe you heard it in Goodfellas.....
 
2012-01-19 03:32:05 PM  

MycroftHolmes: Aarontology: Then seize all their assets held in America.

Under what possible grounds, besides 'I want it, I want it, I want it'?


If they built their wealth in this country on the backs of workers and infrastructure. And then they renounce citizenship for tax reasons then I think we can get creative.

But you are from Texas so I'll try to excuse your stupidity. Please secede.
 
2012-01-19 03:32:06 PM  
Good let them go. I'm sick of rich people who don't want to pay taxes on their income. Let them go try to get a free ride in another country.
 
2012-01-19 03:32:21 PM  

vpb: Sounds good to me. If they aren't willing to pull their weight then let them GTFO.


And like "the man with no country" NEVER be allowed back in this country again. Okay that's too harsh: They can come, on tourist visas only, for a period not to exceed one month every calendar year.
 
2012-01-19 03:32:49 PM  

BarleyGnome: If you aren't living in the US, why would you be required to pay taxes in the US?


10/10


Maximum Trolling.
 
2012-01-19 03:33:25 PM  

BarleyGnome: If you aren't living in the US, why would you be required to pay taxes in the US?


Citizenship is the only criteria that matters. If you are a US citizen, you are required to file taxes in the US.
 
2012-01-19 03:33:45 PM  
Don't let the door hit you were evolution split you, asshats.
 
2012-01-19 03:33:52 PM  
Any chance that this make them 'enemy combatants' somehow?

/I hear there's room at Gitmo.
 
2012-01-19 03:34:12 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: It's a sad state of affairs when a man has to renounce his country in order to protect his family's well being from government theft



Fark 'em. Not like they haven't made most of their money by harming the majority of American families. Sending our jobs to Communist China, mortgage securities swindles and tricking us into a war in Iraq - these things benefited the 1%. They should be chased naked through the streets, tarred and feathered and their bodies burned in a dumpster.
 
2012-01-19 03:34:38 PM  

crab66: BarleyGnome: If you aren't living in the US, why would you be required to pay taxes in the US?

10/10


Maximum Trolling.


Isn't that a little early? He only has one bite and that guy was just non-quoting Goodfellas.
 
2012-01-19 03:35:52 PM  

kayanlau: So what's so good about being an American again?


Cheeseburgers.
 
2012-01-19 03:36:59 PM  
b-b-b-but they can't leave! They have to stay here so Obama can tax them to death!



/told you so
 
2012-01-19 03:37:00 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: It's a sad state of affairs when a man has to renounce his country in order to protect his family's well being from government theft


I would have added something about jackbooted thugs, but that's my style. You do you.
 
2012-01-19 03:37:03 PM  
In fact let's go a step further, for every one of the rich idiots who renounces thier citizenship, that citizenship should be given to any US Soldier who isn't a citizen already. If we run out of those, then we can start handing it out to Afghan and Iraqi translators and collaborators who risked their asses to help US troops, after that any illegal alien who can show a 10-year record of working hard, paying taxes (most do through thier EINs) and staying out of trouble with the law

/Don't want anyone to have citizenship in this country who thinks the little we ask of them is too much of a burden
 
2012-01-19 03:37:09 PM  

MycroftHolmes: Aarontology: Then seize all their assets held in America.

Under what possible grounds, besides 'I want it, I want it, I want it'?


To be fair, that's how they got it.
 
2012-01-19 03:37:29 PM  

kayanlau: So what's so good about being an American again?


personally the high regard that people around the world hold our great nation in gives me a chubby.

/we brought democracy to the middle east
//that's only what we've done lately.
///kept all those evil socialists out of power in latin america
//also shiny farking eagles posters rock
/slashies
 
2012-01-19 03:37:57 PM  

Magorn: vpb: Sounds good to me. If they aren't willing to pull their weight then let them GTFO.

And like "the man with no country" NEVER be allowed back in this country again. Okay that's too harsh: They can come, on tourist visas only, for a period not to exceed one month every calendar year.


The rich guy will have a boat, which he'll then take to the various marinas where there are no customs or border patrol.

Egoy3k: I'll be doing the same.

I'm a dual citizen who was born in the USA and living in Canada since I was 5 years old. To be told that I could face fines and or jail time for not filing taxes in the USA is horseshiat. It's bad enough that I need an American passport to visit the USA instead of my Canadian passport which I have had all my life.


That is a farked up situation. My understanding was that you could claim exception for taxes already paid(so you basically pay if you owe more than you already paid to your host country). Is that incorrect?
 
2012-01-19 03:38:01 PM  

MycroftHolmes: Aarontology: Then seize all their assets held in America.

Under what possible grounds, besides 'I want it, I want it, I want it'?


Tax evasion.
 
2012-01-19 03:38:19 PM  

Magorn: In fact let's go a step further, for every one of the rich idiots who renounces thier citizenship, that citizenship should be given to any US Soldier who isn't a citizen already. If we run out of those, then we can start handing it out to Afghan and Iraqi translators and collaborators who risked their asses to help US troops, after that any illegal alien who can show a 10-year record of working hard, paying taxes (most do through thier EINs) and staying out of trouble with the law

/Don't want anyone to have citizenship in this country who thinks the little we ask of them is too much of a burden


Amen to that.
 
2012-01-19 03:38:35 PM  

crab66: kayanlau: So what's so good about being an American again?

Cheeseburgers.


And guns. Don't forget the guns.

/That's what America is all about, these days
//Cheezeburgers, The Bible, and Guns
 
2012-01-19 03:39:16 PM  

crab66: BarleyGnome: If you aren't living in the US, why would you be required to pay taxes in the US?

10/10


Maximum Trolling.


What's wrong with that? Most countries are doing fine without that weird rule.
 
2012-01-19 03:40:03 PM  
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If you aren't living in the US, why would you be required to pay taxes in the US?



Because freedom isn't free and expats are the only ones making any money.
 
2012-01-19 03:40:37 PM  
Good luck getting a better deal in whatever country you move to. Also, no take backs.
 
2012-01-19 03:40:52 PM  

kayanlau: So what's so good about being an American again?


vs who?

Most of the world?
- don't have to worry about on a regular basis:
1. horrible diseases
2. famine
3. invasion
4. being killed for expressing speech
...

Oh I'm sorry, is this one of those bullshiat posts where we're only allowed to compare the US to Sweden?
 
2012-01-19 03:41:04 PM  

Magorn: In fact let's go a step further, for every one of the rich idiots who renounces thier citizenship, that citizenship should be given to any US Soldier who isn't a citizen already.


I'm completely good with that.

I want to know why we are wait from someone to renounce?

/wants to know more
 
2012-01-19 03:41:21 PM  

Magorn:
/Don't want anyone to have citizenship in this country who thinks the little we ask of them is too much of a burden


You ask too much, Jury Duty or Taxes not both I say!
 
2012-01-19 03:41:49 PM  
I would tax all foreigners living abroad.
 
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