*shrugs*

This is a problem?

Gave me a great opportunity to e-mail my reps and tell them not to support the derp they're being saddled with concerning SOPA/PIPA.

Wait until 4chan figures out a way to turn this into lulz...

Does that mean things like the right to a speedy trial can be rejected because the submission was not formatted correctly?

Another example of business telling our government what to do. Doesn't that just infuriate you Libtards?

Guidette Frankentits: Another example of business telling our government what to do. Doesn't that just infuriate you Libtards?

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Why is protecting intellectual property even the tax payers responsibility?

Aphrodisiac: Why is protecting intellectual property even the tax payers responsibility?

Because corporations can't waste all that money fighting it. They'll DOWNSIZE, you know...

GameSprocket: Does that mean things like the right to a speedy trial can be rejected because the submission was not formatted correctly?

We the jury, find the defendant ^{[citation needed]}?

SilentStrider: olddeegee: Someday, and we may have passed it, all major issues will be decided quickly by the internet. When I was younger I envisioned some sort of voting through the TV, but online protests maintain the buffer from the knee-jerk reactions that instant voting could easily fall prey to. What happened yesterday may be one of the purest forms of representative democracy I've seen in a while.

And hopefully it doesn't turn out all for naught, with this garbage being inserted in some omnibus legislation later on down the line.

As long as there's continued diligence, even if this happened, would it not motivate people to see the oppression inherent in the system? Maybe to review what we expect from our democracy and start finding more ways to reshape it?

Guidette Frankentits: Another example of business telling our government what to do. Doesn't that just infuriate you Libtards?

Actually, in a way it does. It does kind of irritate my that the widespread dislike of this SOPA/PIPA thing wasn't taken seriously until several big named websites decided to spend a day of protest.

Guidette Frankentits

Nonprofit projects created by volunteer labor can tell the government whatever the fark they want. It's not like they're bribing politicians like the MPAA.

Jack Mackbell: Guidette Frankentits: Another example of business telling our government what to do. Doesn't that just infuriate you Libtards?

Actually, in a way it does. It does kind of irritate my that the widespread dislike of this SOPA/PIPA thing wasn't taken seriously until several big named websites decided to spend a day of protest.

Essentially... isn't this where the roots of unionization lie? Individuals, no matter how many, were not being listened to, but as an organized group, they could make statements that could not be so easily ignored?

Leo Bloom's Freakout: Essentially... isn't this where the roots of unionization lie? Individuals, no matter how many, were not being listened to, but as an organized group, they could make statements that could not be so easily ignored?

This is why we have the ACLU and the EFF to protect free speech.

Leo Bloom's Freakout: Jack Mackbell: Guidette Frankentits: Another example of business telling our government what to do. Doesn't that just infuriate you Libtards?

Actually, in a way it does. It does kind of irritate my that the widespread dislike of this SOPA/PIPA thing wasn't taken seriously until several big named websites decided to spend a day of protest.

Essentially... isn't this where the roots of unionization lie? Individuals, no matter how many, were not being listened to, but as an organized group, they could make statements that could not be so easily ignored?

Are you're saying they're pirating their ideas from unions?

We all called it: The two bills were created to be shot down so that a less-incendiary version could be brought in and passed. The game is fixed.

Guidette Frankentits: Leo Bloom's Freakout: Jack Mackbell: Guidette Frankentits: Another example of business telling our government what to do. Doesn't that just infuriate you Libtards?

Actually, in a way it does. It does kind of irritate my that the widespread dislike of this SOPA/PIPA thing wasn't taken seriously until several big named websites decided to spend a day of protest.

Essentially... isn't this where the roots of unionization lie? Individuals, no matter how many, were not being listened to, but as an organized group, they could make statements that could not be so easily ignored?

Are you're saying they're pirating their ideas from unions?

First off: Roses are red, pirates are blue, trolling is dumb, what's that say about you?

In response to your question, no. Pirating would imply a lot of hostility and lack of parallel interests. It's more appropriate to say that whenever a group of individuals is having trouble being heard, organizing and creating singular labels to represent themselves is a natural outcome. To give you a bit of a ponderable, bear in mind that the 2010 election cycle was an example of the right doing this via the Tea Party, a right wing political union.

Leo Bloom's Freakout: Guidette Frankentits: Leo Bloom's Freakout: Jack Mackbell: Guidette Frankentits: Another example of business telling our government what to do. Doesn't that just infuriate you Libtards?

Actually, in a way it does. It does kind of irritate my that the widespread dislike of this SOPA/PIPA thing wasn't taken seriously until several big named websites decided to spend a day of protest.

Essentially... isn't this where the roots of unionization lie? Individuals, no matter how many, were not being listened to, but as an organized group, they could make statements that could not be so easily ignored?

Are you're saying they're pirating their ideas from unions?

First off: Roses are red, pirates are blue, trolling is dumb, what's that say about you?

In response to your question, no. Pirating would imply a lot of hostility and lack of parallel interests. It's more appropriate to say that whenever a group of individuals is having trouble being heard, organizing and creating singular labels to represent themselves is a natural outcome. To give you a bit of a ponderable, bear in mind that the 2010 election cycle was an example of the right doing this via the Tea Party, a right wing political union.

So all Democrats are pirates? Is that what you're saying?

Just heard from two of my reps:

Norm Dicks:

The intent of PIPA and SOPA is to address [the rampant theft of intellectual property developed by U.S. citizens.]. As written, however, I worry that the language is overly broad, and may inadvertently affect sites that use copyrighted material fairly. Because of this, I do not support either bill without substantive changes that preserve the fair use of copyrighted material within the boundaries of U.S. law.

Maria Cantwell:

On May 12, 2011, Senator Leahy (D-VT) introduced S. 968, the Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property (PROTECT IP) Act. While I am supportive of the goals of the bill, I am deeply concerned that the definitions and the means by which the legislation seeks to accomplish these goals will have unintended consequences and hurt innovation, job creation, and threaten online speech and security. On November 17, 2011, I signed a letter along with Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) objecting to the bill as it is currently written.


On December 17, 2011, Senator Wyden introduced the "Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade" (OPEN) Act (S. 2029), of which I am an original co-sponsor. The bill has been referred to the Senate Finance Committee, where it is currently awaiting further review. The OPEN Act is a more effective approach to stopping foreign web sites that are found to be primarily and willfully used to infringe intellectual property rights. The OPEN Act builds on the existing legal framework used by the International Trade Commission for addressing unfair acts in the importation of articles into the United States, or in their sale for importation, or sale within the United States after importation

FWIW

Haven't heard back from Senator Murray yet.

Guidette Frankentits: Leo Bloom's Freakout: Guidette Frankentits: Leo Bloom's Freakout: Jack Mackbell: Guidette Frankentits: Another example of business telling our government what to do. Doesn't that just infuriate you Libtards?

Actually, in a way it does. It does kind of irritate my that the widespread dislike of this SOPA/PIPA thing wasn't taken seriously until several big named websites decided to spend a day of protest.

Essentially... isn't this where the roots of unionization lie? Individuals, no matter how many, were not being listened to, but as an organized group, they could make statements that could not be so easily ignored?

Are you're saying they're pirating their ideas from unions?

First off: Roses are red, pirates are blue, trolling is dumb, what's that say about you?

In response to your question, no. Pirating would imply a lot of hostility and lack of parallel interests. It's more appropriate to say that whenever a group of individuals is having trouble being heard, organizing and creating singular labels to represent themselves is a natural outcome. To give you a bit of a ponderable, bear in mind that the 2010 election cycle was an example of the right doing this via the Tea Party, a right wing political union.

So all Democrats are pirates? Is that what you're saying?

I like your style. You parse better than many. If the pegleg fits, then wear it I suppose. But if we follow that line of thought.

The GOP are roses: thorny, unpleasant to touch. Sure they look and even smell nice for a short while but by the time you get to know them, they wilt and decay into an unpleasant mess that no one wants in their home. They put on a good show up top, but use that to hide the fact that they are an invasive species covered with needlessly painful flaws.

Leo Bloom's Freakout: Guidette Frankentits: Leo Bloom's Freakout: Guidette Frankentits: Leo Bloom's Freakout: Jack Mackbell: Guidette Frankentits: Another example of business telling our government what to do. Doesn't that just infuriate you Libtards?

Actually, in a way it does. It does kind of irritate my that the widespread dislike of this SOPA/PIPA thing wasn't taken seriously until several big named websites decided to spend a day of protest.

Essentially... isn't this where the roots of unionization lie? Individuals, no matter how many, were not being listened to, but as an organized group, they could make statements that could not be so easily ignored?

Are you're saying they're pirating their ideas from unions?

First off: Roses are red, pirates are blue, trolling is dumb, what's that say about you?

In response to your question, no. Pirating would imply a lot of hostility and lack of parallel interests. It's more appropriate to say that whenever a group of individuals is having trouble being heard, organizing and creating singular labels to represent themselves is a natural outcome. To give you a bit of a ponderable, bear in mind that the 2010 election cycle was an example of the right doing this via the Tea Party, a right wing political union.

So all Democrats are pirates? Is that what you're saying?

I like your style. You parse better than many. If the pegleg fits, then wear it I suppose. But if we follow that line of thought.

The GOP are roses: thorny, unpleasant to touch. Sure they look and even smell nice for a short while but by the time you get to know them, they wilt and decay into an unpleasant mess that no one wants in their home. They put on a good show up top, but use that to hide the fact that they are an invasive species covered with needlessly painful flaws.

So what you're really saying is you hope democrats cut them down and deliver them a defeat.

ArtosRC: We all called it: The two bills were created to be shot down so that a less-incendiary version could be brought in and passed. The game is fixed.


You mean like the "new and improved" version of NDAA - and Obama's worthless "signing statement"?

gameshowhost: whidbey: Norm Dicks

hehehe

Well he's no Dick Butkus, to be sure.

Norm is awesome. I'm surprised he's still in office, given the level of Tea Party style derp seen in his district.

Leo Bloom's Freakout: Jack Mackbell: Guidette Frankentits: Another example of business telling our government what to do. Doesn't that just infuriate you Libtards?

Actually, in a way it does. It does kind of irritate my that the widespread dislike of this SOPA/PIPA thing wasn't taken seriously until several big named websites decided to spend a day of protest.

Essentially... isn't this where the roots of unionization lie? Individuals, no matter how many, were not being listened to, but as an organized group, they could make statements that could not be so easily ignored?

When you walk in alone, you beg.
When you walk in together, you negotiate.