this is all the local stations have been talking about but that one quote takes the cake. sad thing about his mom though. I thought a verbal contract was just as binding. I guess there have to be other circumstances at work to make it binding.

Where else can you be an icon when you're really a joke.

"Kathy Bates agrees with the former town leader..."

Who would dare argue with her?

jimmyjackfunk: this is all the local stations have been talking about but that one quote takes the cake. sad thing about his mom though. I thought a verbal contract was just as binding. I guess there have to be other circumstances at work to make it binding.

Yeah you are so not a lawyer. You would be well advised to befriend a few though.

Could someone break this down? I don't know what the story is and TFA is pretty scant on details, just about reactions to the story.

Crotchrocket Slim: jimmyjackfunk: this is all the local stations have been talking about but that one quote takes the cake. sad thing about his mom though. I thought a verbal contract was just as binding. I guess there have to be other circumstances at work to make it binding.

Yeah you are so not a lawyer. You would be well advised to befriend a few though.

Could someone break this down? I don't know what the story is and TFA is pretty scant on details, just about reactions to the story.

that is why i said i thought a verbal contract was binding. Of course this being Oklahoma this is his argument that they agreed to name the new addition after his mother. fast forward several years down the road, the hospital hasn't used his donation and tells him, "we are going to use the money for something else and we aren't putting your mom's name on anything." hence the lawsuit.

You took your hat off. Now we know you're bald.

So, Garth Brooks isn't saying he DIDN'T diddle little boys.

jimmyjackfunk: Crotchrocket Slim: jimmyjackfunk: this is all the local stations have been talking about but that one quote takes the cake. sad thing about his mom though. I thought a verbal contract was just as binding. I guess there have to be other circumstances at work to make it binding.

Yeah you are so not a lawyer. You would be well advised to befriend a few though.

Could someone break this down? I don't know what the story is and TFA is pretty scant on details, just about reactions to the story.

that is why i said i thought a verbal contract was binding. Of course this being Oklahoma this is his argument that they agreed to name the new addition after his mother. fast forward several years down the road, the hospital hasn't used his donation and tells him, "we are going to use the money for something else and we aren't putting your mom's name on anything." hence the lawsuit.

LOL good luck with that Mr. Brooks

Note an old lawyer saying "a verbal contract is worth the paper is was printed on" exists for a reason. Always get that shiat in writing, always.

jimmyjackfunk: Crotchrocket Slim: jimmyjackfunk: this is all the local stations have been talking about but that one quote takes the cake. sad thing about his mom though. I thought a verbal contract was just as binding. I guess there have to be other circumstances at work to make it binding.

Yeah you are so not a lawyer. You would be well advised to befriend a few though.

Could someone break this down? I don't know what the story is and TFA is pretty scant on details, just about reactions to the story.

that is why i said i thought a verbal contract was binding. Of course this being Oklahoma this is his argument that they agreed to name the new addition after his mother. fast forward several years down the road, the hospital hasn't used his donation and tells him, "we are going to use the money for something else and we aren't putting your mom's name on anything." hence the lawsuit.

As a lawyer in Oklahoma I'm really getting a kick out of these replies. No a verbal contract of this nature would not necessarily be binding unless Brooks could show some detrimental reliance on the alleged promises.

/plenty of other reasons to sue hospitals

FTFA: "I think it would be great. He's moved out of here and left us with nothing."

The first thing this made me think of was Ani DiFranco, who hails from Buffalo. When she made it big, she poured money back into her home city, in spades. If you look at her later albums, they're expensively designed and produced. Those are all made at a factory in Buffalo. She could have had them made anywhere, and almost anywhere outside the U.S. would have been cheaper, including right across the water in Canada (a 10-minute drive from the label she also set up there). But she chose to spend more money, investing in her home town.

So now Garth Brooks is feeling the heat, and wants to make amends? Getting embarrassed and trying to make up for it is very different from doing the right thing the first time. You can't buy respect, Garth, no matter how much money you have. You have to earn it. Character is what you are when you don't have to be.

As a Penn State grad, I'll say the lady has a point. This is some business deal that has the participants in a panty-twist. That doesn't remove or stain everything the guy's ever done. On the other hand Sandusky, it appears to everyone, is a serious and unrepentant criminal with a significant number of child victims.

So a good analogy.

Magorn: memtastic: jimmyjackfunk: Crotchrocket Slim: jimmyjackfunk: this is all the local stations have been talking about but that one quote takes the cake. sad thing about his mom though. I thought a verbal contract was just as binding. I guess there have to be other circumstances at work to make it binding.

Yeah you are so not a lawyer. You would be well advised to befriend a few though.

Could someone break this down? I don't know what the story is and TFA is pretty scant on details, just about reactions to the story.

that is why i said i thought a verbal contract was binding. Of course this being Oklahoma this is his argument that they agreed to name the new addition after his mother. fast forward several years down the road, the hospital hasn't used his donation and tells him, "we are going to use the money for something else and we aren't putting your mom's name on anything." hence the lawsuit.

As a lawyer in Oklahoma I'm really getting a kick out of these replies. No a verbal contract of this nature would not necessarily be binding unless Brooks could show some detrimental reliance on the alleged promises.

/plenty of other reasons to sue hospitals

Are you basing that on the fact that it's over $500 and so the hospital can invoke the Statute of Frauds?

Is a donation obtained under false pretenses not at least tortious conversion/civil fraud?

Stature of Frauds was one of the things I was considering and so was wrongful inducement or fraud. However I'm not sure to what extent this would be considered a donation as there is some consideration here.....the condition that the portion of the hospital be named after his mother.

Magorn: memtastic: jimmyjackfunk: Crotchrocket Slim: jimmyjackfunk: this is all the local stations have been talking about but that one quote takes the cake. sad thing about his mom though. I thought a verbal contract was just as binding. I guess there have to be other circumstances at work to make it binding.

Yeah you are so not a lawyer. You would be well advised to befriend a few though.

Could someone break this down? I don't know what the story is and TFA is pretty scant on details, just about reactions to the story.

that is why i said i thought a verbal contract was binding. Of course this being Oklahoma this is his argument that they agreed to name the new addition after his mother. fast forward several years down the road, the hospital hasn't used his donation and tells him, "we are going to use the money for something else and we aren't putting your mom's name on anything." hence the lawsuit.

As a lawyer in Oklahoma I'm really getting a kick out of these replies. No a verbal contract of this nature would not necessarily be binding unless Brooks could show some detrimental reliance on the alleged promises.

/plenty of other reasons to sue hospitals

Are you basing that on the fact that it's over $500 and so the hospital can invoke the Statute of Frauds?

Is a donation obtained under false pretenses not at least tortious conversion/civil fraud?

IANAL but with regard to verbal contracts, it's very hard to determine if Brooks was giving the hospital a donation specifically to name a wing after her, or if Brooks was giving them money they "may" name a wing after her. What is important is whether anyone can determine if naming the wing after her was the sole reason Brooks was giving them a cash gift, and such things are far easier to prove if you have something documented in writing (maybe an audio or video recording that clarifies things would work too?).

Ever have a convo where you're "pretty sure" the other person meant one thing even if they didn't say it specifically? Written contracts exist to kill this phenomenon (among other reasons).

Note: my experience with verbal contracts comes from another lifetime as a slumlord. No, subletting a big house to 20 somethings to cover your own rent is never a good idea.

factoryconnection: As a Penn State grad, I'll say the lady has a point. This is some business deal that has the participants in a panty-twist. That doesn't remove or stain everything the guy's ever done. On the other hand Sandusky, it appears to everyone, is a serious and unrepentant criminal with a significant number of child victims.

So a good analogy.

Isn't Garth Brooks the guy that wouldn't let his records be sold in any store that sold used records? He's got a history of D-baggyisms if you ask me. I can't argue that he's not as bad as little boy raping though.

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: FTFA: "I think it would be great. He's moved out of here and left us with nothing."

The first thing this made me think of was Ani DiFranco, who hails from Buffalo. When she made it big, she poured money back into her home city, in spades. If you look at her later albums, they're expensively designed and produced. Those are all made at a factory in Buffalo. She could have had them made anywhere, and almost anywhere outside the U.S. would have been cheaper, including right across the water in Canada (a 10-minute drive from the label she also set up there). But she chose to spend more money, investing in her home town.

So now Garth Brooks is feeling the heat, and wants to make amends? Getting embarrassed and trying to make up for it is very different from doing the right thing the first time. You can't buy respect, Garth, no matter how much money you have. You have to earn it. Character is what you are when you don't have to be.

It just made me think of some bitter redneck pissed off that she's still living in some podunk redneck town while he was able to extricate himself from the situation.

good lord i cannot suffer through eight bars of that dipshiat's retread connect-the-dots kinda crappy tunage

may his mother's soul overheat in heck

memtastic: Magorn: memtastic: jimmyjackfunk: Crotchrocket Slim: jimmyjackfunk: this is all the local stations have been talking about but that one quote takes the cake. sad thing about his mom though. I thought a verbal contract was just as binding. I guess there have to be other circumstances at work to make it binding.

Yeah you are so not a lawyer. You would be well advised to befriend a few though.

Could someone break this down? I don't know what the story is and TFA is pretty scant on details, just about reactions to the story.

that is why i said i thought a verbal contract was binding. Of course this being Oklahoma this is his argument that they agreed to name the new addition after his mother. fast forward several years down the road, the hospital hasn't used his donation and tells him, "we are going to use the money for something else and we aren't putting your mom's name on anything." hence the lawsuit.

As a lawyer in Oklahoma I'm really getting a kick out of these replies. No a verbal contract of this nature would not necessarily be binding unless Brooks could show some detrimental reliance on the alleged promises.

/plenty of other reasons to sue hospitals

Are you basing that on the fact that it's over $500 and so the hospital can invoke the Statute of Frauds?

Is a donation obtained under false pretenses not at least tortious conversion/civil fraud?

Stature of Frauds was one of the things I was considering and so was wrongful inducement or fraud. However I'm not sure to what extent this would be considered a donation as there is some consideration here.....the condition that the portion of the hospital be named after his mother.

Statute of frauds is irrelevant here. An oral contract CAN be just as binding as one in writing for something like this. Problem, though, is that Garthie won't be able to prove that the hospital promised to name the hospital after his mom in exchange for his donation, so there's no proof there was a contract as opposed to an outright gift. Also, he should be forced to surrender all his money for inflicting the song "that summer" on the public. Just thinking of it makes the bile rise.

i'm no c/w fan but garth is a big part of what went wrong with c/w music. crap is crap. the old school badasses like meryll, hank, johnny, roy & patsy, that was c/w. it takes a real a-hole to muddy up simple three chord redneck whitetrash blues.

I just know that this is my big chance- I am honking my horn at all the TV news crews every day on my home.

Here's what I think happened:

Brooks wanted something named after his mom. The hospital, not absolutely desperate for the money at the time, said "Meh, we don't have anything we can rename at this time. Any naming opportunities would have to wait till we build something, such as the women's center we're think about". Brooks then counters with "How about I donate the half mill then you guys rename the women's center?'

They say "Alrighty then."

No women's center is built. No one owes Brooks any money back because there was no promise a center would be built, just that IF it was his mom's name would go on it.

This just bug me only because I used to like the guy. The height of his popularity was after he made admends to his first wife for his cheating. I was into his music for a while, getting all the CD's. Once he dumped his wife to marry the other woman, he went against the image he built. I walked away and didn't look back. This latest story seems very petty. Yeah his mom meant alot to him. He means nothing to me, so what if he wanted to put her name on something. The feeling I am getting is he is going broke and is trying to find a way of getting some of his wasted-while-I-am-rich-money back.