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(MSNBC) Stupid When George W. Bush rewarded his "bundler" donors with jobs and parties, the liberal outrage was like the fire of a thousand suns. So, naturally, when Barack Obama does the same thing, the liberal outrage is...nonexistent   (openchannel.msnbc.msn.com) divider line 252
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2012-01-19 08:36:08 AM
Sorry, I was too pissed over Bush's war crimes to bother with donor perks.
 
2012-01-19 08:37:18 AM
i am shocked SHOCKED to learn of corruption in the government.
 
2012-01-19 08:39:16 AM
Bush had donor perks? Well, that's clearly what pissed people off, not things like politicising the department of justice, violating international law, squandering economic prosperity and destabilising the middle east for no adequately explored reason.
 
2012-01-19 08:39:34 AM
I think the rage was more about him trying to give them jobs they weren't qualified for or couldn't handle at all.

Like, say, heading FEMA or the justice department.
 
2012-01-19 08:39:46 AM
Wait, so you're telling me that government influence can be purchased simply by making large political donations?

Get outta here! No foolin?
 
2012-01-19 08:39:59 AM
Have no freaking clue what your talking about, subby, so the outrage couldnt have burned THAT bright.
 
2012-01-19 08:40:01 AM
Suns aren't on fire, smitty.
 
2012-01-19 08:40:35 AM
Well let me think about this for a moment. Nope, I don't like this practice any more when a Democrat does it as opposed to a Republican. So now that that's off the table, let me just move on to the myriad of ways I'll still vote for this President over the alternatives in the coming election.

/This headline is the epitome of BSABSVR
 
2012-01-19 08:41:15 AM
Rewarding donors? The hell you say.

This sort of thing has gone on for a long time, all the way back to the first time it happened.
 
2012-01-19 08:41:36 AM
What's that you say? Both sides are bad?
 
2012-01-19 08:41:58 AM
"When George W. Bush rewarded his "bundler" donors with jobs and parties, the liberal outrage was like the fire of a thousand suns. "

huh?
 
2012-01-19 08:42:04 AM
Hmmm, no mention of appointing unqualified people to important positions.
 
2012-01-19 08:42:05 AM
OMG LIBERALS
 
2012-01-19 08:42:22 AM
Alphax: Sorry, I was too pissed over Bush's war crimes to bother with donor perks.

And on Obama's war crimes?
 
2012-01-19 08:42:48 AM
I don't remember when Bush did it, tbh.

Is there a particular person who was outraged? Maybe you should ask them instead of a random liberal. We don't really communicate that well, you know. No newsletter.
 
2012-01-19 08:43:04 AM
That's because this is a team sport, and the labels "conservative" and "liberal" are just labels. They mean nothing in any practical sense. They're meaningless distinctions that are self-applied by insiders in two private clubs playing a game from which everyone else is excluded. Like spectators at an NFL game, ordinary citizens must pay to watch but have no voice in player selection, game plan, or play calling. And like the NFL, the outcome is often predetermined. No matter which team wins the Superbowl, the league and teams make lots of money.
 
2012-01-19 08:43:15 AM
I expect some level of quid pro quo so I'm saving my outrage for when Obama tries to make one a Supreme Court Justice.
 
2012-01-19 08:43:21 AM
Subby cries over onions.
 
2012-01-19 08:43:46 AM
DarnoKonrad: "When George W. Bush rewarded his "bundler" donors with jobs and parties, the liberal outrage was like the fire of a thousand suns. "

huh?


You see, liberals,
 
2012-01-19 08:44:13 AM
And Obama is supposed to be a Socialist how again?
 
2012-01-19 08:44:18 AM
Sounds like Subby does not support free speech.
 
2012-01-19 08:44:21 AM
If there was outrage over this phenomenon under Bush, then it surely ranked no higher than #200 on the list of Bush outrage-isms. I personally don't believe that there has ever been an elected official who has NOT offered some perks to high-level donors. Right or wrong, if there is one thing that is to be expected in a political system, then this would be it.

/So vote Republican.
 
2012-01-19 08:44:39 AM
Titor's Time Machine: /This headline is the epitome of BSABSV-RP!

Yes, indeed.
 
2012-01-19 08:45:00 AM
Philip Francis Queeg: What's that you say? Both sides are bad?

Indeed. So how should I vote?
 
2012-01-19 08:45:09 AM
Alphax: Sorry, I was too pissed over Bush's war crimes to bother with donor perks.

This.
That waging aggressive war thing was a sticking point for me, too.
As the Nuremburg tribunals highlighted, it's hard to look past that.

Obama is the new Buchanan, but he doesn't even approach the corruption of the Bush II cabal (new window). The real corruption and selling out will happen in his second term, when he's a neutered lame duck.
 
2012-01-19 08:45:14 AM
It must be tiring to come up with things to be "outraged" over every day...
 
2012-01-19 08:45:14 AM
Oh, also, can I get an example of liberal thousand-sun outrage? I need to calibrate my rageometer.
 
2012-01-19 08:45:22 AM
You really could have worked "messiah" into the headline somewhere.
 
2012-01-19 08:45:27 AM
skelter: I don't remember when Bush did it, tbh.

Was Brownie a bundler? I don't even remember.
 
2012-01-19 08:46:48 AM
canyoneer: That's because this is a team sport, and the labels "conservative" and "liberal" are just labels. They mean nothing in any practical sense. They're meaningless distinctions that are self-applied by insiders in two private clubs playing a game from which everyone else is excluded. Like spectators at an NFL game, ordinary citizens must pay to watch but have no voice in player selection, game plan, or play calling. And like the NFL, the outcome is often predetermined. No matter which team wins the Superbowl, the league and teams make lots of money.

Excellent.
 
2012-01-19 08:47:34 AM
Donor perks is the least thing that farking dumb sonofabiatch did.

Ask all the moms who's kids came home in a box from his "war" that was based on a pack of lies.
 
2012-01-19 08:47:55 AM
It's way too early in the morning to do such concern trolling.
 
2012-01-19 08:48:54 AM
What did Bush do? I don't even remember this. The outrage must have made me black out.
 
2012-01-19 08:49:10 AM
Alphax: Sorry, I was too pissed over Bush's war crimes to bother with donor perks.

Well, thank God Obama's not committed any of those, right?
 
2012-01-19 08:49:13 AM
steveGswine: You really could have worked "messiah" into the headline somewhere.

I personally would've gone with the "liberal media refuses to cover this story" angle considering this is an investigative report by MSNBC. That would've been aces.
 
2012-01-19 08:49:19 AM
Iraq.
 
2012-01-19 08:50:41 AM
FLMountainMan: Alphax: Sorry, I was too pissed over Bush's war crimes to bother with donor perks.

Well, thank God Obama's not committed any of those, right?


yes?
 
2012-01-19 08:50:47 AM
Titor's Time Machine: Well let me think about this for a moment. Nope, I don't like this practice any more when a Democrat does it as opposed to a Republican. So now that that's off the table, let me just move on to the myriad of ways I'll still vote for this President over the alternatives in the coming election.

/This headline is the epitome of BSABSVR


I look forward to your silence on the issue the next time a Republican President does this.
 
2012-01-19 08:51:45 AM
Donate to president, become ambassador to Guam or Luxembourg. Can't explain that.

Oh wait, you can. Precedent.
 
2012-01-19 08:52:31 AM
When George W. Bush rewarded his "bundler" donors with jobs and parties, the liberal outrage was like the fire of a thousand suns. So, naturally, when Barack Obama does the same thing, the liberal outrage is...nonexistent

And then you link to a MSNBC article. So is MSNBC no longer part of the liberal mainstream MSM media? Someone get me a talking point STAT!
 
2012-01-19 08:52:49 AM
s2s2s2: Titor's Time Machine: /This headline is the epitome of BSABSV-RP!

Yes, indeed.


You know, I'd love to have a valid third option on the ballot. Hell I'd love it even more if there were no political parties and simply individuals with articulately stated policy ideas.

Ron Paul does indeed have articulately stated policy ideas. Unfortunately, those ideas are, for the most part, farking retarded.
 
2012-01-19 08:52:50 AM
Same. farking. Guy.

Corporate whores, all.
 
2012-01-19 08:53:02 AM
FLMountainMan: Alphax: Sorry, I was too pissed over Bush's war crimes to bother with donor perks.

Well, thank God Obama's not committed any of those, right?


Why is my sarcasm meter going off?
 
2012-01-19 08:53:13 AM
s2s2s2: Alphax: Sorry, I was too pissed over Bush's war crimes to bother with donor perks.

And on Obama's war crimes?


Such as? As far as we know, Obama hasn't authorized torture, and last I checked, killing high-ranking members of a terrorist organization aren't war crimes. If Pakistan and Yemen want to complain that we went after the terrorists they harbored, they're welcome to.

And the whole 'indefinite detention' thing in the NDAA was already policy before Obama got into office, so screwing military personnel out of their paychecks by vetoing the NDAA would've done nothing.
 
2012-01-19 08:55:12 AM
canyoneer: That's because this is a team sport, and the labels "conservative" and "liberal" are just labels. They mean nothing in any practical sense. They're meaningless distinctions that are self-applied by insiders in two private clubs playing a game from which everyone else is excluded. Like spectators at an NFL game, ordinary citizens must pay to watch but have no voice in player selection, game plan, or play calling. And like the NFL, the outcome is often predetermined. No matter which team wins the Superbowl, the league and teams make lots of money.

And the weirdest part is the odd, paradoxical self-loathing that lies at the bottom of it. When people make much of the fact that the "other" has the same flaws, biases, and foibles that they do, it reveals to me that on some level they suspect that the "other" is somehow their moral superior, and that they feel compelled to prove otherwise.
 
2012-01-19 08:55:32 AM
Let's try this another way:

When George W. Bush rewarded his "bundler" donors with jobs and parties, the liberal outrage was met with conservatives' responses of a jack-off gesture and a "it's good to be the king" comment. But now that Obama's done what the previous president did...
 
2012-01-19 08:56:21 AM
Titor's Time Machine: s2s2s2: Titor's Time Machine: /This headline is the epitome of BSABSV-RP!

Yes, indeed.

You know, I'd love to have a valid third option on the ballot. Hell I'd love it even more if there were no political parties and simply individuals with articulately stated policy ideas.

Ron Paul does indeed have articulately stated policy ideas. Unfortunately, those ideas are, for the most part, farking retarded.


And y'know, since he's Republican (With all of the 'cut taxes, deregulate everything, poor people can fark themselves' policies that implies), he's not a third option,
 
2012-01-19 08:57:22 AM
Satanic_Hamster: I think the rage was more about him trying to give them jobs they weren't qualified for or couldn't handle at all.

Like, say, heading FEMA or the justice department.


QFT.
 
2012-01-19 08:58:16 AM
Obama invaded Iraq and had an incompetent friend run the transition? I must have missed that news cycle.
 
2012-01-19 08:58:52 AM
Cataholic: Titor's Time Machine: Well let me think about this for a moment. Nope, I don't like this practice any more when a Democrat does it as opposed to a Republican. So now that that's off the table, let me just move on to the myriad of ways I'll still vote for this President over the alternatives in the coming election.

/This headline is the epitome of BSABSVR

I look forward to your silence on the issue the next time a Republican President does this.


Okay, I guess?

Look, this is actually kind of my point. The actions described in the article are the type of thing where I can neither condone nor condemn with any type of legitimacy.

It's a by product of a system that is, while not necessarily broken, certainly cracked. I could sit here and stomp my little internet feet in rage or I can be practical and state that at this particular point in time there isn't anything I can do about it.

So for me, it's more of a *shrug* and move on to the next thing on the list of things that influence who I will cast my vote for. That next thing may very well be a *shrug* issue as well.
 
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