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2012-01-19 09:16:35 AM  
How does anyone expect marriages to last when the gays have all but destroyed the concept?
 
2012-01-19 09:18:15 AM  
My 1999 Lincoln Towncar has 415000 miles on it.

/Original Engine and Transmission
//No issues yet
///Knock on wood
////Slashies
 
2012-01-19 09:21:08 AM  

Bamboozler: My 1999 Lincoln Towncar has 415000 miles on it.


My 99 Plymouth Breeze just hit the 100k mark and is starting to show signs of serious issues. So.... there.
 
2012-01-19 09:22:14 AM  
My woman and I aren't married.

Have a daughter and an unknown baby on the way (she's 6 weeks along)

Gonna get married at some point, for health insurance reasons.

If she stops being such a douche NY Rangers fan.
 
2012-01-19 09:23:14 AM  
I finally had to get rid of my '90 Cutlass. I drive my cars until they are complete death traps.
 
2012-01-19 09:24:27 AM  
Why can't this be more like my cell phone plan? New every 2!rewardslink.info
 
2012-01-19 09:26:44 AM  
Not the average age of *FIRST TIME* marriages. After 40 years, something like 60% of people in their first marriage are still wedded to each other. It's the 'serial marriers', people who get married multiple times, that drives the number down. In any case, it appears from census data that the average 'first time' marriage length is at least 25 years.

/Still on first marriage, just hit 16 years.
//Have bought 5 new cars in that time.
 
2012-01-19 09:27:03 AM  
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2012-01-19 09:28:18 AM  
Is Newt Gingrich submitting links to Fark now?
 
2012-01-19 09:30:21 AM  
My car is about to hit 200,000 miles but unless it officially dies I'm not sure if I'm ready to get rid of it. It has horrible gas mileage, looks like a landfill inside (I know, my fault), but that stupid car managed to not kill me when I hit black ice and hit a hill sideways. How it didn't flip I will never know.
 
2012-01-19 09:30:58 AM  
My '02 Honda CR-V only has 65k miles on it. No major problems so far, but the $500/year repair costs have started to come in. What's odd is that all my coworkers and friends have much newer cars than I do. I need to make friends with people who have older cars so I don't get pitying looks just because I don't feel like buying a new car every 3-4 years.
 
2012-01-19 09:35:47 AM  
Should I choose a fast American car with big headlights and a lot of room in the trunk, or should I go with a smaller but more reliable Asian import?
 
2012-01-19 09:38:18 AM  
Our 05 Ford Escape was running fine until I took it in for it's last oil change. I usually do it myself, but it was the day before New Year's and I wanted my hands to be clean for the holiday weekend. About a week later, the oil light started to flicker every time I would brake on an incline. When I got home, I checked the oil and the dipstick was bone dry. The farkers at the oil change place drained the oil, put on the new filter, but didn't put in new oil. The engine had been running on the dregs of what was left in the engine compartment for almost a week and we had taken a road trip from Austin to Midland the day after the oil change. I, of course, topped off the oil and luckily the engine didn't throw a rod. Now the engine knocks and rattles every time the car accelerates(piston slap?) I can fix it, I just can't diagnose worth a damn. This is our only passenger vehicle (our youngest son is too short to ride on the back of a motorcycle) and we can't afford to buy or finance a new or used car. Just when we thought life was finally giving us a little bit of a break we get kicked in the balls. Hopefully I can keep the car running until one of us gets a job.
 
2012-01-19 09:38:34 AM  
Got my car last May, so far I've only put 4500 miles on her. Never going to make it to my first service at this rate.
 
2012-01-19 09:40:32 AM  

Compact Travel Size: My '02 Honda CR-V only has 65k miles on it. No major problems so far, but the $500/year repair costs have started to come in. What's odd is that all my coworkers and friends have much newer cars than I do. I need to make friends with people who have older cars so I don't get pitying looks just because I don't feel like buying a new car every 3-4 years.


500 bucks a year in repairs is cheaper than just about any payment plan/financing you could get through a dealer.
 
2012-01-19 09:42:44 AM  
"Average age of U.S. autos now two years older than length of average marriage. As expected, both eventually will be replaced with newer models having less mileage"

and the best ones come from Asia
 
2012-01-19 09:43:38 AM  

dittybopper: /Still on first marriage, just hit 16 years.
//Have bought 5 new cars in that time


A new car every 3 years. That sounds kind of excessive.
 
2012-01-19 09:44:26 AM  
Let's see, when I learned to drive, a car with 70,000 was very high mileage and likely at the end of its useful life. Now, cars are routinely ticking off double that, or more. I have numerous friends with Hondas and Toyotas that are well over 200,000 miles and still running reasonable well on not much more than regular oil changes and annual tune-ups. Sure there may be some with more serious problems, but in the 80s I knew nobody who had a regular, reliable "driver" with more than 100,000 miles.
 
2012-01-19 09:53:30 AM  

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: dittybopper: /Still on first marriage, just hit 16 years.
//Have bought 5 new cars in that time

A new car every 3 years. That sounds kind of excessive.


It's not. Two car family, one for the distaffbopper, one for me, and we keep them for a long time. My current car is pretty new, only 2 years old, but the one it replaced was 8 years old. The distaffbopper's current car is 6 or 7 years old.

Also, one of our cars was totalled in our driveway by a drunk driver, and it was reasonably new (only 5 years old) when we had to replace it, so that drove the average up.

If you are talking about new cars that I've purchased for pretty much my sole use, I've only gotten 2 in that time.
 
2012-01-19 09:54:38 AM  
Any car with major issues before 200K miles is a POS.

I will never, ever own an Infiniti ever again. I'd rather walk.

I would have driven my 1998 Honda Accord until it died had some stupid broad on a cell phone not rear ended me in such a way that it bent the frame. Then another stupid broad totaled my parked VW New Beetle a year later. Then I got the Infiniti, which needed a whole new transmission at 115K miles. A MANUAL transmission. SHIATTY CAR.

I now own a fairly low mileage Scion TC. Wish me luck... thought I'd give Toyota a chance, since I can't really afford a Honda Accord now. But I will, someday.

/no idea where I was going with that, just needed to rant.
 
2012-01-19 09:55:10 AM  

Jixa: Our 05 Ford Escape was running fine until I took it in for it's last oil change. I usually do it myself, but it was the day before New Year's and I wanted my hands to be clean for the holiday weekend. About a week later, the oil light started to flicker every time I would brake on an incline. When I got home, I checked the oil and the dipstick was bone dry. The farkers at the oil change place drained the oil, put on the new filter, but didn't put in new oil. The engine had been running on the dregs of what was left in the engine compartment for almost a week and we had taken a road trip from Austin to Midland the day after the oil change. I, of course, topped off the oil and luckily the engine didn't throw a rod. Now the engine knocks and rattles every time the car accelerates(piston slap?) I can fix it, I just can't diagnose worth a damn. This is our only passenger vehicle (our youngest son is too short to ride on the back of a motorcycle) and we can't afford to buy or finance a new or used car. Just when we thought life was finally giving us a little bit of a break we get kicked in the balls. Hopefully I can keep the car running until one of us gets a job.


I guess it was too late to request a refund? Hope you get it fixed, I'll probably need a new car soon as well but until I get a job that offers more permanency I'm afraid to make any drastic financial decisions.
 
2012-01-19 09:55:21 AM  
My 92 ford escort? 370k miles and still rolling. Granted, the wife ripped the front bumper off it...
 
2012-01-19 09:56:01 AM  

irishjihad: Let's see, when I learned to drive, a car with 70,000 was very high mileage and likely at the end of its useful life. Now, cars are routinely ticking off double that, or more. I have numerous friends with Hondas and Toyotas that are well over 200,000 miles and still running reasonable well on not much more than regular oil changes and annual tune-ups. Sure there may be some with more serious problems, but in the 80s I knew nobody who had a regular, reliable "driver" with more than 100,000 miles.


The reliability improvements in cars during our lifetime is nothing short of shocking. People wonder where our flying cars are... they're flying down the highway smoothly and quietly at 70mph even at 150K miles on the odometer. I have a lot of older siblings, and so I saw a lot of cars come and go from our driveway in the 80s. We had the oil and other fluid stains on our driveway to prove it!

dittybopper: Not the average age of *FIRST TIME* marriages.


It is impressive to see how many spouses some folks will go through before realizing it just isn't in their skill set. I was shocked when one of my coworkers, a confirmed bachelorette if ever I've met one told me she'd been married "four... well sorta five times." The "sorta" was a marriage of convenience to get out of the barracks while in the military.
 
2012-01-19 09:56:35 AM  
Car: 2001
Marriage: 2005

... Uh oh.

/Together since 2000! Beatin' the statistics! Yay! :P
 
2012-01-19 09:57:20 AM  

Aidan: Car: 2001
Marriage: 2005

... Uh oh.

/Together since 2000! Beatin' the statistics! Yay! :P


No, wait. It was 2004. Well, you know, whatever. I know exactly when I bought my car though!
 
2012-01-19 09:57:28 AM  
Driving an '04 Honda Civic that clicked over 72k miles this morning. Damn car isn't going to die anytime soon giving me no reason to buy an expensive sports coupe before my wife is going to want to start having children. Godammitsomuch.

/She's got a BMW X3
 
2012-01-19 09:58:08 AM  

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: dittybopper: /Still on first marriage, just hit 16 years.
//Have bought 5 new cars in that time

A new car every 3 years. That sounds kind of excessive.


If you assume one car for each person, that works out to over 6 years per car per person. Not terribly excessive.
 
2012-01-19 09:58:36 AM  

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: A new car every 3 years. That sounds kind of excessive.


Not really if you're a two car family with longish commutes. That's a new car every six years for each driver.
 
2012-01-19 09:58:49 AM  
It depends on the brand and maintenance, but most any car made after 1995 will last 250k without much effort, just replacing consumables.

1990-05 BMWs get iffy every 100k due to VANOS and the plastic cooling system, which are high-cost repairs
Audis of the same vintage are known for their electrical, engine sludge, and failing control arm issues
Mercedes circa 2000 are widely known as the worst series of car the manufacturer ever made.

A honda/nissan/toyota/mazda of the same vintage is fine for 250-300k if you put in gas, oil, and chage the coolant and belts at 100k.

Not sure about american cars, but I see plenty of high mileage tauri, foci, and impala/malibus still rolling around.

On my car which is about to hit 100k I have a couple preventative maintenance Items to hit this year in a valve adjustment, new plugs, coolant flush, accessory belt, and new O2 sensor, but thats about it and can be mostly DIYed and will cost me under $800 total. Brakes, oil, air filter, and tranny fluid have regular service intervals, and the suspension bits are doing fine. All of those maintenance Items are still cheaper than 3 months of a new car payment.

I keep my cars until they're more trouble than they're worth, and right now, I see no reasun to dump my RSX, it has at least 5 trouble-free years in it after this year's maintenance.
 
2012-01-19 09:59:37 AM  

Jixa: Our 05 Ford Escape was running fine until I took it in for it's last oil change. I usually do it myself, but it was the day before New Year's and I wanted my hands to be clean for the holiday weekend. About a week later, the oil light started to flicker every time I would brake on an incline. When I got home, I checked the oil and the dipstick was bone dry. The farkers at the oil change place drained the oil, put on the new filter, but didn't put in new oil. The engine had been running on the dregs of what was left in the engine compartment for almost a week and we had taken a road trip from Austin to Midland the day after the oil change. I, of course, topped off the oil and luckily the engine didn't throw a rod. Now the engine knocks and rattles every time the car accelerates(piston slap?) I can fix it, I just can't diagnose worth a damn. This is our only passenger vehicle (our youngest son is too short to ride on the back of a motorcycle) and we can't afford to buy or finance a new or used car. Just when we thought life was finally giving us a little bit of a break we get kicked in the balls. Hopefully I can keep the car running until one of us gets a job.


Stories like this are why I still crawl under my damn car and change the oil myself. It's one of the few things I can actually do on any car I own.
 
2012-01-19 09:59:52 AM  

Arkanaut: Should I choose a fast American car with big headlights and a lot of room in the trunk, or should I go with a smaller but more reliable Asian import?


I personally like a lot of room in the trunk because I put a lot of junk in that trunk.
 
2012-01-19 10:01:22 AM  

distopianDream: My car is about to hit 200,000 miles but unless it officially dies I'm not sure if I'm ready to get rid of it. It has horrible gas mileage, looks like a landfill inside (I know, my fault), but that stupid car managed to not kill me when I hit black ice and hit a hill sideways. How it didn't flip I will never know.


empty out the junk, clean out the trunk and get a tune up. gas economy indeed. wtf, man.

-- aside, WTF does article expect? little tiny so-called economy cars cost 18-38,ooo farking dollars. kiss my arse, you can buy a sweet used thang for that kind of scratch. damm dollar ain't worth a dime these days.

/old, grumpy
 
2012-01-19 10:01:37 AM  
In '87 my Dad had a Pontiac Aster Stationwagon "Formula", had well over 200k miles on it. It had been smacked by deer, and the driver side door would swing open on occasion (you had to tie it shut). But over all it was a decent car.

I never got to drive it, but spent a lot of time in the back rolling around while he drove.
 
2012-01-19 10:10:04 AM  
I thought we all were supposed to be driving environmentally friendly. 30,000 dollar electric cars by now (snerk)......................

/04 Ranger, 104k
 
2012-01-19 10:11:07 AM  

factoryconnection: irishjihad: Let's see, when I learned to drive, a car with 70,000 was very high mileage and likely at the end of its useful life. Now, cars are routinely ticking off double that, or more. I have numerous friends with Hondas and Toyotas that are well over 200,000 miles and still running reasonable well on not much more than regular oil changes and annual tune-ups. Sure there may be some with more serious problems, but in the 80s I knew nobody who had a regular, reliable "driver" with more than 100,000 miles.

The reliability improvements in cars during our lifetime is nothing short of shocking. People wonder where our flying cars are... they're flying down the highway smoothly and quietly at 70mph even at 150K miles on the odometer. I have a lot of older siblings, and so I saw a lot of cars come and go from our driveway in the 80s. We had the oil and other fluid stains on our driveway to prove it!

dittybopper: Not the average age of *FIRST TIME* marriages.

It is impressive to see how many spouses some folks will go through before realizing it just isn't in their skill set. I was shocked when one of my coworkers, a confirmed bachelorette if ever I've met one told me she'd been married "four... well sorta five times." The "sorta" was a marriage of convenience to get out of the barracks while in the military.


This.

Serial marriers are an anomaly and do drive averages down. I have my own personal feelings on dating/marriage.

You should know if you see some sort of future with a partner within 3-6 months. You should know if you'd marry them within a year. If you are over the age of 25, and with someone for more than 2 years without being engaged, do yourself a favor and break up, because you're wasting both people's time.

If you've been married once and it lasted, good for you. 2 or 3 times and ended up working out, you just got unlucky with the first 1 or 2, ho harm no foul. If you're on 4+, you should really reconsider if the whole marriage thing is for you, and probably stop trying, because you're obviously terrible at it.
 
2012-01-19 10:11:15 AM  
A well-maintained used car is a good deal. I just bought a 1999 Nissan Quest with 134000 miles on it. Had it inspected by a mechanic in advance, so I know what it needs, and it has no major problems.

So now I have transportation that is decently reliable and cheap to insure, and I have no car payment. It's a beautiful thing.
 
2012-01-19 10:11:53 AM  

Compact Travel Size: My '02 Honda CR-V only has 65k miles on it. No major problems so far, but the $500/year repair costs have started to come in. What's odd is that all my coworkers and friends have much newer cars than I do. I need to make friends with people who have older cars so I don't get pitying looks just because I don't feel like buying a new car every 3-4 years.


Is it paid for? You're getting a bargain on $500 dollars repair costs/year if you're not paying a note
 
2012-01-19 10:12:25 AM  
'97 Saturn SL1, SOHC. 175k. Great car. I just spent $131 replacing the tensioner and $30 for the serpentine belt. First repair I've had to do in years. My only complaint about this car, is the EGR. Seems to get gunked up about every 6 months. Easy to take off and clean with Sea Foam (cream). Still gets 435 km per fill (about $32 now). I'll never sell it. If I won the lottery, I'd send it to Chip Foose to have rebuilt and customized.
 
2012-01-19 10:12:38 AM  

GoodyearPimp: Bamboozler: My 1999 Lincoln Towncar has 415000 miles on it.

My 99 Plymouth Breeze just hit the 100k mark and is starting to show signs of serious issues. So.... there.


I think I see the problem.
 
2012-01-19 10:13:41 AM  
My '99 Toyota Tacoma passed 100000 miles last night so I'm getting a kick out of this thread.
 
2012-01-19 10:17:29 AM  

GoodyearPimp: Bamboozler: My 1999 Lincoln Towncar has 415000 miles on it.

My 99 Plymouth Breeze just hit the 100k mark and is starting to show signs of serious issues. So.... there.


Certainly not the Republicans, I mean just look at their field of candidates for president. I think only the Mormon is on his first wife, and we all know he can't get elected as Mormon's are not Christians and this is a Christian nation.
 
2012-01-19 10:19:53 AM  

Arkanaut: Should I choose a fast American car with big headlights and a lot of room in the trunk, or should I go with a smaller but more reliable Asian import?


Meh the small American cars form Ford and Chevy have just about caught up to Honda and Toyota in quality. But for the love of god avoid anything and everything from Chrysler.
 
2012-01-19 10:20:58 AM  
,000 miles on my '98 VW Jetta I bought new. Does not burn a drop of oil. Spent plenty on repairs over the years (water pumps, CV joints, wheel bearings, A/C compressor, etc., etc.) but I love her. I will run Jenny into the ground....
 
2012-01-19 10:22:50 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: But for the love of god avoid anything and everything from Chrysler.


Unless its an older Jeep. My 17 yr old has a 94 cherokee (4.0 st six) with 179k that is damn near unbreakable. Bought it for 2k back in 2009, have only had to put tires, 2 shocks, and alternator on it (outside of oil changes, etc). Unfortunately, he has messed up the inside of it as he hasn't learned the concept of a "trash can" yet.
 
2012-01-19 10:23:12 AM  
30 years ago a 10 year old car was rare. Cars are significantly more reliable now.
 
2012-01-19 10:27:54 AM  
My 98 Corolla is still running well. Had issues with power steering leak this year, but other than a few things wearing out here and there, it is still a great car that gets great fuel economy. I plan to get it to 20 years old before replacing it.

Also, being in a big city, with lots of parallel parking and crappy drivers, it is nice to have a car with a few dings in it already - makes you care a lot less when you get a new dent.

/tempted by Model S
 
2012-01-19 10:28:34 AM  
We are well above average in my house -

1996 Jeep W/ 224k miles
2003 BMW

Planning on replacing the Jeep when it falls apart. Probably keeping the BMW forever, it's always nice to have a convertible in the garage (Z4)
 
2012-01-19 10:29:11 AM  

duffman13: Mercedes circa 2000 are widely known as the worst series of car the manufacturer ever made.


That's because their DailmerChrysler "synergy" was just beginning to bear "fruit" that year.
 
2012-01-19 10:30:29 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: Meh the small American cars form Ford and Chevy have just about caught up to Honda and Toyota in quality. But for the love of god avoid anything and everything from Chrysler.


Funny story. I just test drove a Ford Fusion, Chevy Cruze and Chrysler 200 over the weekend along with a Hyundai Sonata and Toyota Camry. The Domestics haven't caught up with imports by a long shot, only the Chrysler compared and it's technically a "level" above the others.

The Ford: horrible laggy slushbox, not enough power and tiny brakes. Interior was okay, but the electronics were an embarrassment. Couldn't find the on button for Synch to test phone pairing and functionality.

The Chevy: not a bad little engine, but 1.4L 140 HP isn't what I think of when I say I'm looking for a "mid-size sport sedan". Interior was fine but the electronics were a joke, a 2 inch by 6 inch monochrome "navigation" unit that looks like something from my parents' '98 BMW. No thanks. Couldn't find my phone. At least the slushbox was responsive.

The Chrysler: good engine and surprisingly good slushbox, responsive suspension and great interior. Too bad I couldn't see out the right side of the windshield because of the giant mirror hanging at eye level. The back window was also a tank slit with impaired rear visibility. Wouldn't easily pair with my phone.

The Toyota: pretty quick for the family truckster with a great interior and excellent radio/nav. Paired with my phone with no issues. Slushbox wasn't totally retarded and had flappy paddle mode.

The Hyundai: Very fast for FWD, luxury interior and excellent electronics. Included dual zone climate for under 30k. Paired with my phone with no issue. Slushbox wasn't bad and had flappy paddle mode.
 
2012-01-19 10:35:41 AM  
Car: 98 Plymouth Voyager w/ 178K miles. Runs great, looks like shait.
Marriage: 1st, pushing 22 years. Runs great.

Surprised the average age of cars didn't drop due to cars to Cash For Clunkers...
 
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