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2012-01-19 08:24:25 AM
Those "hardcore" atheists remind me of those anit-gay republicans who are invariable caught soliciting or engaging in illicit sex acts with other men in public toilets more and more each day.
 
2012-01-19 08:31:33 AM
doglover: Those "hardcore" atheists remind me of those anit-gay republicans who are invariable caught soliciting or engaging in illicit sex acts with other men in public toilets more and more each day.

So there are going to be embarrasing pictures of atheists with the body of christ in their mouth coming to light?
 
2012-01-19 08:32:18 AM
Not every former religious person decides to be an atheist, I know I didn't. I just reached the conclusion one day that the existence of a god doesn't make any sense.
His existence would be the most illogical thing in the universe.
 
2012-01-19 08:38:28 AM
As an atheist, I just have to say that you need to be extremely careful with this process. Undoing a baptism is very difficult, and if your de-baptism is performed by someone who's not really skilled in the particular denomination in which you were originally saved by God's love, there can be real problems. For example, it's virtually impossible for a Catholic debaptism to undo a Baptist baptism; you need a Baptist debaptism by a Debaptismist who's stronger in faith than you. Failure to get one may (counter-intuitively, I know, but I'm just trying to stick to facts) result in the Baptist hold on the pending atheist to become even stronger.

Imagine it in levels, like say that new Skyrim game people talk about. So, you're a level 5 Baptist and you want to switch to Atheist. Fine, no problem. But you can't find a Level 6 or higher Baptist Debaptismist, so you settle instead on a Level 6 Presbyterian Debaptismist thinking it won't make a difference. But what really ends up happening is that you emerge from the ritual as a Level *6* Baptist, and now you're even harder to debaptise than before. This happened to me the first time, and I spent another 4 years going to church and believing in God before I could find a Level 8 (because by that point I'd gained another level) Baptist Debaptismist to undo all that.

But now I'm an atheist, so it's all good. I had one scary moment about a year ago when I tripped at a wedding and nearly fell into a font of holy water, but the antibaptismal ritual's effects last a good long while and so I didn't revert. I think I'm good for another year or so, and then I might need to get a recharge. Thankfully that's not too expensive.
 
2012-01-19 08:39:49 AM
So they're not the "I don't believe in God" kind of atheists but more of the "fark you, I don't believe in God" variety?
 
2012-01-19 08:51:01 AM
Pocket Ninja: and I spent another 4 years going to church and believing in God before I could find a Level 8 (because by that point I'd gained another level) Baptist Debaptismist to undo all that.

You dodged a bullet, man. I hit 10 and at that level, any water you touch becomes holy water. I took a bath and I ascended to heaven almost instantly.
 
2012-01-19 08:52:47 AM
thismomentinblackhistory: So they're not the "I don't believe in God" kind of atheists but more of the "fark you, I don't believe in God" variety?


Using this logic, being baptized itself is an act of "fark you, atheists," which is inaccurate and retarded.

Symbolism is very important to some people, theist and atheist alike.
 
2012-01-19 08:56:20 AM
That's really f*cking stupid.
 
2012-01-19 09:07:01 AM
DarnoKonrad: thismomentinblackhistory: So they're not the "I don't believe in God" kind of atheists but more of the "fark you, I don't believe in God" variety?


Using this logic, being baptized itself is an act of "fark you, atheists," which is inaccurate and retarded.

Symbolism is very important to some people, theist and atheist alike.


Seems like they're kinda superstitious, having coming to a logic-based, rational conclusion that God does not exist and then having to undo the voodoo?
 
2012-01-19 09:09:19 AM
thismomentinblackhistory: DarnoKonrad: thismomentinblackhistory: So they're not the "I don't believe in God" kind of atheists but more of the "fark you, I don't believe in God" variety?


Using this logic, being baptized itself is an act of "fark you, atheists," which is inaccurate and retarded.

Symbolism is very important to some people, theist and atheist alike.

Seems like they're kinda superstitious, having coming to a logic-based, rational conclusion that God does not exist and then having to undo the voodoo?


Next they'll be getting blasted on wine in order to vomit the communion out of their system.
 
2012-01-19 09:46:16 AM
That's just obnoxious.
 
2012-01-19 09:48:42 AM
I'm so happy that my godless heathen parents never baptized me in the first place.

/team raised atheist
 
2012-01-19 09:56:51 AM
Pocket Ninja: Thankfully that's not too expensive.

But you are worth gold! I would give money to walk around in your brain for an hour!

Also wik: Any atheist who "de-baptisizes" is missing the whole point. If you are that desperate for a ritual, develop OCD. Jackass.
 
2012-01-19 10:31:27 AM
I come from China and I never was raised with any sort of religious identity outside of some Chinese traditional religion stuff.

Seriously, you converts try to hard.

/Doesn't do much of anything with regards to religion. Doesn't impact my life at all.
//Perfectly fine with going to religious service with a friend, but they gotta buy me food afterwards.
 
2012-01-19 10:36:18 AM
thismomentinblackhistory: DarnoKonrad: thismomentinblackhistory: So they're not the "I don't believe in God" kind of atheists but more of the "fark you, I don't believe in God" variety?


Using this logic, being baptized itself is an act of "fark you, atheists," which is inaccurate and retarded.

Symbolism is very important to some people, theist and atheist alike.

Seems like they're kinda superstitious, having coming to a logic-based, rational conclusion that God does not exist and then having to undo the voodoo?




Atheism is merely the rejection of theism. People can come to that conclusion through voodoo or reason.
 
2012-01-19 10:56:55 AM
Can't the intellectual elite have just *one thing* that you f*cking morons don't co-opt and destroy? You aren't f*cking atheists! You don't have the f*cking intellectual capacity to understand Reading Rainbow, let alone the theist debate that has evolved from the thinking of some of the best minds of the last 500 years. Go read your Dawkins, if it makes you feel good about yourself, but please quit ruining it for the rest of us!
 
2012-01-19 11:17:23 AM
People do this as a stupid joke. No one takes it seriously, except people that want to look down on atheists. It's not a funny joke. It's not really worth it, in my mind. But some people find it entertaining and an element of community-building.
 
2012-01-19 11:54:51 AM
Pocket Ninja: ....

I love you, man.
 
2012-01-19 11:57:49 AM
thismomentinblackhistory: So they're not the "I don't believe in God" kind of atheists but more of the "fark you, I don't believe in God" variety?

Ennuipoet: Pocket Ninja: Thankfully that's not too expensive.

But you are worth gold! I would give money to walk around in your brain for an hour!

Also wik: Any atheist who "de-baptisizes" is missing the whole point. If you are that desperate for a ritual, develop OCD. Jackass.


t3knomanser: People do this as a stupid joke. No one takes it seriously, except people that want to look down on atheists. It's not a funny joke. It's not really worth it, in my mind. But some people find it entertaining and an element of community-building.

A while back there was an article and thread about people "de-baptizing" themselves in a tongue-in-cheek way using a hair dryer. Now, that was silly and meaningless, but it did get the Fark Religious Brigade all up-in-arms.
With this, though, it's not simply symbolic. They are having their names removed from the baptismal roles, becoming officially "non-religious" in the eyes of the state. Here in America, that's not that big of a deal, but in countries like France, where the Catholic Church is so pervasive it restricts what you can name your child, or in countries like Italy, Germany and Sweden (among others) where you pay tax money to the state that then goes to fund the church, then I can kind of see the point.
 
2012-01-19 11:59:11 AM
It's called a towel.
 
2012-01-19 11:59:27 AM
That's okay. The Mormons will baptize him after he's dead.
 
2012-01-19 11:59:44 AM
This is farking dumb.

If you do not accept the church's authority and dogma, the baptism ceremony is invalid anyway.

You're making the rest of us atheists look bad, bozos.
 
2012-01-19 11:59:53 AM
Aarontology: That's really f*cking stupid.

And we're done.
 
2012-01-19 12:01:33 PM
THE POWER OF COMMON SENSE COMPELS YOU!!!...
 
2012-01-19 12:01:35 PM
but... but if you are Atheist, all the "baptising" shiat is just you getting wet because its nonsense, don't make up some "unbapising" just grab a towel or better yet don't give a single fark.
 
2012-01-19 12:01:44 PM
Some people really go to extraordinary lengths to not believe something.
 
2012-01-19 12:02:04 PM
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.

boobsrgood: Aarontology: That's really f*cking stupid.

And we're done.


Oh.
 
2012-01-19 12:02:17 PM
Pocket Ninja: As an atheist, I just have to say that you need to be extremely careful with this process. Undoing a baptism is very difficult, and if your de-baptism is performed by someone who's not really skilled in the particular denomination in which you were originally saved by God's love, there can be real problems. For example, it's virtually impossible for a Catholic debaptism to undo a Baptist baptism; you need a Baptist debaptism by a Debaptismist who's stronger in faith than you. Failure to get one may (counter-intuitively, I know, but I'm just trying to stick to facts) result in the Baptist hold on the pending atheist to become even stronger.

Imagine it in levels, like say that new Skyrim game people talk about. So, you're a level 5 Baptist and you want to switch to Atheist. Fine, no problem. But you can't find a Level 6 or higher Baptist Debaptismist, so you settle instead on a Level 6 Presbyterian Debaptismist thinking it won't make a difference. But what really ends up happening is that you emerge from the ritual as a Level *6* Baptist, and now you're even harder to debaptise than before. This happened to me the first time, and I spent another 4 years going to church and believing in God before I could find a Level 8 (because by that point I'd gained another level) Baptist Debaptismist to undo all that.

But now I'm an atheist, so it's all good. I had one scary moment about a year ago when I tripped at a wedding and nearly fell into a font of holy water, but the antibaptismal ritual's effects last a good long while and so I didn't revert. I think I'm good for another year or so, and then I might need to get a recharge. Thankfully that's not too expensive.


A nice towel is really all you need.
 
2012-01-19 12:02:52 PM
Winning: Not every former religious person decides to be an atheist, I know I didn't. I just reached the conclusion one day that the existence of a god doesn't make any sense.
His existence would be the most illogical thing in the universe.


Then you're an atheist. An atheist with a small "a", not an obnoxious Dawkins-loving capital "A" Atheist dipshiat. Nothing wrong with small "a" atheists.
 
2012-01-19 12:03:12 PM
Some people need rituals, I guess. Sad.
 
2012-01-19 12:03:27 PM
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2012-01-19 12:04:37 PM
I've found that whenever I end up spending too much time in a church, any church, a good old fashioned debauche usually gets the religion right out of me and sets my soul right with the world.
 
2012-01-19 12:04:52 PM
If you get baptized by being immersed in water, then would that mean you have to be set on fire to get un-baptized?
 
2012-01-19 12:04:54 PM
ImRonBurgundy: It's called a towel.

There's certainly room for innovation...what about a debaptismal squeegee?
 
2012-01-19 12:05:17 PM
Pocket Ninja: As an atheist, I just have to say that you need to be extremely careful with this process. Undoing a baptism is very difficult, and if your de-baptism is performed by someone who's not really skilled in the particular denomination in which you were originally saved by God's love, there can be real problems. For example, it's virtually impossible for a Catholic debaptism to undo a Baptist baptism; you need a Baptist debaptism by a Debaptismist who's stronger in faith than you. Failure to get one may (counter-intuitively, I know, but I'm just trying to stick to facts) result in the Baptist hold on the pending atheist to become even stronger.

Imagine it in levels, like say that new Skyrim game people talk about. So, you're a level 5 Baptist and you want to switch to Atheist. Fine, no problem. But you can't find a Level 6 or higher Baptist Debaptismist, so you settle instead on a Level 6 Presbyterian Debaptismist thinking it won't make a difference. But what really ends up happening is that you emerge from the ritual as a Level *6* Baptist, and now you're even harder to debaptise than before. This happened to me the first time, and I spent another 4 years going to church and believing in God before I could find a Level 8 (because by that point I'd gained another level) Baptist Debaptismist to undo all that.

But now I'm an atheist, so it's all good. I had one scary moment about a year ago when I tripped at a wedding and nearly fell into a font of holy water, but the antibaptismal ritual's effects last a good long while and so I didn't revert. I think I'm good for another year or so, and then I might need to get a recharge. Thankfully that's not too expensive.


This is why you are favorited.
 
2012-01-19 12:05:46 PM
or you can simply privately renounce your baptism because you know you're not Christian. It's pretty simple.
 
2012-01-19 12:06:46 PM
I have been officially removed as a member of my church. I'd have to be baptized again if I wanted to enter it again. I'm proud of that for some adolescent reason.

/raised Mormon
//CSB
 
2012-01-19 12:06:48 PM
As a kid I briefly considered getting de-baptized as a way of saying "fark you!" on my way out. Turns out I actually didn't care that much.
 
2012-01-19 12:07:13 PM
Anybody can decide to be an atheist, but collective delusion is a group thing.
 
2012-01-19 12:07:17 PM
Pocket Ninja: Imagine it in levels, like say that new Skyrim game people talk about. So, you're a level 5 Baptist and you want to switch to Atheist. Fine, no problem. But you can't find a Level 6 or higher Baptist Debaptismist, so you settle instead on a Level 6 Presbyterian Debaptismist thinking it won't make a difference. But what really ends up happening is that you emerge from the ritual as a Level *6* Baptist, and now you're even harder to debaptise than before. This happened to me the first time, and I spent another 4 years going to church and believing in God before I could find a Level 8 (because by that point I'd gained another level) Baptist Debaptismist to undo all that.

Meh. I'm not a fan of some of the weirder quests, but you've got to admit that Baptists have the best crowd control abilities of any class. (new window)

/Also, I XD 'd at your post
 
2012-01-19 12:07:27 PM
Jumping through hoops is one of my least favorite things about religion, why the hell would you bring that with you?

For now I'm going to assume these folks are like those that move from location A to location B to get away from A and then proceed to actively turn location B into location A.
 
2012-01-19 12:08:51 PM
I invested in a really top of the line Thetan Scraper, and I've been belief-free for years.
 
2012-01-19 12:09:10 PM
I guess the Bell, Book, and Candle aren't enough? Perhaps they'd also like the lash?


/nothing is obscure
 
2012-01-19 12:09:14 PM
Oh, and I can't imagine why so many people regard atheists as insufferable attention-whores.
 
2012-01-19 12:09:33 PM
Is it with the hair dryer?
 
2012-01-19 12:10:33 PM
PC LOAD LETTER: Some people need rituals, I guess. Sad.

I need rituals. One bourbon, one scotch, and one beer.
 
2012-01-19 12:11:00 PM
timujin: They are having their names removed from the baptismal roles, becoming officially "non-religious" in the eyes of the state.

That's what I get for not RTFAing. I know that it's a huuuuuuge burden to get yourself removed from church rosters, and I never even thought about how that intersects with government. Privilege of being an American.
 
2012-01-19 12:11:11 PM
lolwut? I'm as atheist as they come... but i was baptized at least 2 or 3 times when I was younger. Since I don't believe in any of that religious hokum I feel no need to be de-baptized in any way... Heck, kinda seems like you lend it some legitimacy when you bother to do that.

But it's bullshiat, so why would I bother trying to undo it? It never had any truth to it in the first place.
 
2012-01-19 12:11:48 PM
Loucifer: I invested in a really top of the line Thetan Scraper, and I've been belief-free for years.

Thetan dump stations are few and far betwixt, though.
 
2012-01-19 12:13:07 PM
Although I am an Atheist, I prefer to remain officially baptized so I can vote in Republican primaries.
 
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