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Garth Brooks shows what's really wrong with the American healthcare system
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BalugaJoe
2012-01-18 02:46:26 PM
Did he get it in writing?
ipsofacto
2012-01-18 02:49:13 PM
He should just buy the hospital, fire whoever done done his momma wrong, then donate it back.
Atomic Spunk
2012-01-18 02:51:48 PM
I wonder what Chris Gaines thinks about this?
MrEricSir
2012-01-18 02:52:08 PM
I blame Chris Gaines.
Bob16
2012-01-18 02:53:09 PM
Granny can't whip him up anymore mustard plasters since she moved to Beverly (hills that is ).
The grip done got him down.
MadMonk
2012-01-18 02:58:55 PM
My wife left, truck broke down, dog died in a hunting accident, and now the hospital won't name a building after my ma. Country livin' ain't easy.
Scrotastic Method
2012-01-18 03:03:46 PM
Because the American healthcare system exists to make profits, not to take care of people. So long as that is the case America will always have an embarrassment of a healthcare system. In this case, a hospital lied about what would happen with money out of greed, and you can be sure that $500k wasn't wisely used, and paid for any number of "executive retreats" and "corporate training" in places like Oahu.
My father: "They can't take X of my tax dollars to force me to pay for insurance!"
Me: "You're paying double-X for a private company to tell you 'no' and jerk you around. If you pay less money you'll get what you need when you need it."
Father: "But SOCIALISM!"
Me:
does that fingers-on-the-bridge-of-nose headache thing
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mcreadyblue
2012-01-18 03:05:57 PM
Free market at work.
Bob16
2012-01-18 03:08:36 PM
Hey Garth your "music" is in need of immediate medical attention.
janeuner
2012-01-18 03:16:43 PM
The link is broken. It goes to an obnoxious auto-playing advertisment for Geico.
Mikey1969
2012-01-18 03:18:33 PM
So if he's telling the truth on this, I have no problem with this suit...
Yes, a donation is just that, a donation, so he should be able to stipulate conditions like this.
Now his music, I can't forgive him for that... 'Low places' is OK
DECMATH
2012-01-18 03:20:53 PM
What's "really wrong" - if I RTFA correctly? - every entity that pays money into it thinks they alone can command how it gets used.
Bob16
2012-01-18 03:23:15 PM
Imagine that.
You give half a mil to the Mr. Haney memorial hospital and you end up getting scammed.
Kazrath
2012-01-18 03:30:10 PM
This is what I found funny:
"The Associated Press reports none of the potential jurors were removed from consideration, even though nearly every member raised their hands when the singer's lawyer asked whether they had heard of Brooks."
Yep, they are in a Southern State and Garth Brooks is one of the more famous country singers of all time. Of course it is reasonable to expect that none of the jurors have heard of him. I am not even a fan of country music and I like quite a bit of his work.
Mikey1969
2012-01-18 03:33:27 PM
DECMATH
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What's "really wrong" - if I RTFA correctly? - every entity that pays money into it thinks they alone can command how it gets used.
NO, if you would RTFA correctly, you would see where according to Brooks, it was a pre-arranged condition of the donation, which happens all the time with situations like this. Sure, you give 20 bucks, you don't get to dictate dick... $500,000, on the other hand, is a large enough endowment, that people usually get to make some demands. Within reason, of course. It's the whole point behind all of the 'John Q Public Memorial' libraries, hospital wings, law schools, cancer centers, theaters, etc that you see everywhere you go, someone made a significant donation, and they made the simple condition that there had to be some recognition for somebody specific. IN this case, it was Brooks' mother'.
rtaylor92
2012-01-18 03:55:18 PM
Kazrath
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This is what I found funny:
"The Associated Press reports none of the potential jurors were removed from consideration, even though nearly every member raised their hands when the singer's lawyer asked whether they had heard of Brooks."
Yep, they are in a Southern State and Garth Brooks is one of the more famous country singers of all time. Of course it is reasonable to expect that none of the jurors have heard of him. I am not even a fan of country music and I like quite a bit of his work.
yup, this is in his home state. the hospital doesn't stand a chance.
Pancoaifo
2012-01-18 05:01:21 PM
rtaylor92
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Kazrath: This is what I found funny:
"The Associated Press reports none of the potential jurors were removed from consideration, even though nearly every member raised their hands when the singer's lawyer asked whether they had heard of Brooks."
Yep, they are in a Southern State and Garth Brooks is one of the more famous country singers of all time. Of course it is reasonable to expect that none of the jurors have heard of him. I am not even a fan of country music and I like quite a bit of his work.
yup, this is in his home state. the hospital doesn't stand a chance.
More than that, Yukon, OK, has freaking Garth Brooks Boulevard running through it. The man is Oklahoma royalty, FFS.
I don't even like country music and even I'm going to presumptively side with Brooks (met the guy, he struck me as super easy-going and down to earth).
I've got to wonder, though, who and how much was paid to name the facility whatever it is now and why is the hospital fighting so hard to avoid just throwing up a sign with Grandma Brooks name on it?
rtaylor92
2012-01-18 05:28:31 PM
Pancoaifo
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rtaylor92: Kazrath: This is what I found funny:
"The Associated Press reports none of the potential jurors were removed from consideration, even though nearly every member raised their hands when the singer's lawyer asked whether they had heard of Brooks."
Yep, they are in a Southern State and Garth Brooks is one of the more famous country singers of all time. Of course it is reasonable to expect that none of the jurors have heard of him. I am not even a fan of country music and I like quite a bit of his work.
yup, this is in his home state. the hospital doesn't stand a chance.
More than that, Yukon, OK, has freaking Garth Brooks Boulevard running through it. The man is Oklahoma royalty, FFS.
I don't even like country music and even I'm going to presumptively side with Brooks (met the guy, he struck me as super easy-going and down to earth).
I've got to wonder, though, who and how much was paid to name the facility whatever it is now and why is the hospital fighting so hard to avoid just throwing up a sign with Grandma Brooks name on it?
maybe I didn't read it right but it sounds like whatever was going to get built never got built so there is nothing to put his mom's name on. but you're right though, the hospital should just pick a ward and name it after her and be done with it.
rumpelstiltskin
2012-01-18 05:49:21 PM
rtaylor92
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maybe I didn't read it right but it sounds like whatever was going to get built never got built so there is nothing to put his mom's name on. but you're right though, the hospital should just pick a ward and name it after her and be done with it.
I'm sure something got built. Maybe a new tennis court at the CEO's house, or a swimming pool shaped like a kidney at a VP's house. I know there's something that could be named after Brooks' mother.
baggins2000
2012-01-18 06:09:22 PM
sounds like a bunch of freakin low IQ administrators.
Don't steal from rich people , they have lawyers.
oh_please
2012-01-18 06:39:54 PM
Not a country music listener at all, but my roommate had Garth Brooks tickets, got stood up at the last minute, and I went with him for grins and giggles...I'll tell you, dude put on a farking great show. I didn't know anything he sang but "Thunder Rolls", I was surprised and impressed how good the concert was.
Also, I may be the only person ever who liked the Chris Gaines album. Feel free to mock me.
Jim_Callahan
2012-01-18 06:41:55 PM
Sounds like Mr. Brooks' position is reasonable. A conditional donation is conditional.
That's not why I'm commenting, though, I'm here to let subby know that he should be ashamed of himself for not even looking up a couple mom-related Garth Brooks lyrics.
I mean, come on, I hate country music, and I can still manage basic references like:
[Sad]: Momma's on the front porch screamin' out her warning, boy you better get your donation conditions down in writing.
or maybe
[Amusing] Papa loved Mama, Mama loved men, Hospitals love money
Sure, those suck, but at least they suck less, eh?
sevens1997
2012-01-18 07:34:12 PM
oh_please
:
Also, I may be the only person ever who liked the Chris Gaines album. Feel free to mock me.
No, you're not. I like it as well.
I've always liked Garth's music. I modeled my handle after one of his albums, ffs.
Good on him for standing up to the hospital.
Why Yes I Am A Wizard
2012-01-18 09:09:34 PM
MrEricSir
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I blame Chris Gaines.
I don't know about that, but his name-branded ready-made burger patties taste like dog food!
Not too bad with ketchup though ...
JonZoidberg
2012-01-18 10:14:51 PM
Mikey1969
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So if he's telling the truth on this, I have no problem with this suit...
Yes, a donation is just that, a donation, so he should be able to stipulate conditions like this.
Now his music, I can't forgive him for that... 'Low places' is OK
Heh, I thought that was a George Strait song, now I guess all those years of hearing my dad listen to that crap were in vain. Ah well.
i_got_no_strings
2012-01-18 10:27:00 PM
He should've known something was up just from looking at the name of the health care system. It's not called "Integrity," it's called "Integris." Any good old boy from Oklahoma ought to know that when a product has an ingredient name spelled funny, it's because that ingredient isn't really there, just faked up. Integris is to actual integrity what Cheez is to actual cheese.
Virtual Pariah
2012-01-18 10:29:27 PM
If he donated the money for naming rights then he can get back his funds if the hospital didn't fulfill it's end of the agreement.
That said, 1/2 a mil is pretty low for a building's naming rights.
Representative of the unwashed masses
2012-01-19 01:28:03 AM
huh, I am pleasantly surprised that FARK is siding with Garth Brooks! a 1 percenter country singer.
/Sad I never got to see him play live
//I like to sing Friends in Low Places at karaoke
///FARK is lower than low places most days
davynelson
2012-01-19 02:20:42 AM
one percenter country singer?
you mean like the one percent that are trite, obvious and imitative
with neither genuine creative spark nor passion?
no wait, that's the ninety nine percent
garth must be awesome
moothemagiccow
2012-01-19 03:51:07 AM
DECMATH
:
What's "really wrong" - if I RTFA correctly? - every entity that pays money into it thinks they alone can command how it gets used.
In the public sector donors like to earmark money and instruct that it be used in a certain way. The businesses don't like it, because it means they have to write a budget and that's complicated.
Spaceman Spiffed
2012-01-19 05:14:45 AM
What's really wrong with the American healthcare system? Try getting sick or going to the hospital
without
any insurance.
You know those EOB's (Explanation of Benefits) that yous insurance company sends? The ones that show "2 aspirin, $754. Adjustment $751, paid $3"... those? The person without insurance gets billed the full $754, which is just a BS number made up and set ridiculously high to counter the insurance companies always trying to cut the amount they'll pay to ridiculously low. The guy, or gal, without insurance often gets treated BEFORE they are told how much it will cost, and stuck with a bill for the full amount, with no adjustment, since they figure that if you don't have insurance, you probably don't layers or anyone else to represent you. So they'll come after you for the full amount, even if it takes years (and lots of interest).
Seriously, in order to live in America in this day, you need to have some sort of group health insurance, or you are even way more vulnerable to being wrecked by a single accident or illness. For most people that means employer provided insurance or being a dependent of someone who has it.
If it turns out to be true, as some people are arguing, that as a country we are headed for long-term structurally high unemployment ( because we don't need that many people to do the jobs that remain in this country ), then a lot of people are going to be living life on the edge, one event away from ruin.
FullMetalPanda
2012-01-19 07:52:12 AM
Holy crap, did you see that hospital spokemans nose???? I Thought I was looking at Richard Nixon. I was waiting for that mother farker to go on about not being a crook. I swear his nose was growing while he was talking.
rudemix
2012-01-19 08:50:51 AM
The one thing in the article that makes me lean towards believing Brooks is the claim that momma's name would be in neon lights. If you can't picture some greasy, donation seeking, brown-noser claiming that his momma's name would be 'all lit up in neon' then you aren't trying.
Farkomatic
2012-01-19 10:14:28 AM
If Brooks can show proof of a mock-up with all the details, why is this even in court? If he can show that, it sounds like a breach of a verbal contract (if it wasn't in writing) and the hospital is using "donation" as a way around it.
I'm sure there's a lot more to this story we haven't heard. Maybe they were going to do everything that was agreed to. But if he demanded stuff on TOP of getting a building named after his mom and became an unreasonable dick that would've cost them money, I would have done the same.
rikkards
2012-01-19 12:16:09 PM
FTA:
The singer says he made the donation to Integris
Canadian
Valley Regional Hospital in Yukon, Okl.,in 2005,
He is probably setting up a Class Action suit with these guys:
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