cman: Until you can walk down the streets in Havana and whisper "Castro sucks" without being arrested, then I'll believe your headline, subs

When you can walk down the streets of Tuscon and be Hispanic without getting arrested, then I'll believe your derp.

Cuba: penalized for decades over not allowing global corporations and banks to plunder her.

Captain_Ballbeard: cman: Until you can walk down the streets in Havana and whisper "Castro sucks" without being arrested, then I'll believe your headline, subs

When you can walk down the streets of Tuscon and be Hispanic without getting arrested, then I'll believe your derp.

Groooan. Did you have to go there?

/*Tucson

Subby here.
Yeah, so I took a few liberties with the headline just to get a Rosie/pig joke in. They're my liberties, so be civil.

What's the difference between a civil union and a marriage, other than the name? They're just called 'civil unions' so as not to piss off the anti-gay faction. If a couple of gay dudes got a civil union, they would say they're married. If we had nation-wide civil unions, most people would call them marriages (except the fundies) and five years later nobody (except the fundies) would make a distinction. All marriages are civil unions right now, the marriage part in a church is just ornamentation pomp and completely unnecessary.

And NO, Whidbey. Not Right Wing Derp Camp. Not even close: Rabid, liberal atheist.

"Considering" a weaker version of something that's already the law in half of the states is "taking the lead" on the issue? Man, things are easy as hell in subby's world.

Of course during the height of the AIDS crisis Cuba was the ONLY country in the world to quarantine AIDS patients so this is progress.

Captain_Ballbeard:
When you can walk down the streets of Tuscon and be Hispanic without getting arrested, then I'll believe your derp.

Tucson, you can. Phoenix? Not so much.

Civil Unions are not the same as Marriage. Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity support gay civil unions but not marriage. Besides Mariela Castro is a Gay activist who, unlike most of her colleagues, can avoid getting arrested because of who her daddy is. Besides she has claimed this numerous times in the past and it never happened, so there is not reason to beleive it here. while the article claims about changes for gays in Cuba, but the only proof to that is the state run TV, according to defectors, gays are still treaty shiatty there. So we are to trust Rauls daughter who has claimed this dozens of times before over the last decade and Cuban state propaganda. Please, give me a break

BSABSVR: Captain_Ballbeard:
When you can walk down the streets of Tuscon and be Hispanic without getting arrested, then I'll believe your derp.

Tucson, you can. Phoenix? Not so much.

No. Phoenix you can, its the rest of Maricopa that you can't. But Sheriff Joe has no jurisdiction withing Phoenix city limits. And Tuscon is more crazy that phoenix

Hypothetically, one could visit Cuba by way of The Cayman Islands and the Cubans will be nice enough not to stamp your passport. Also hypothetically, Cuba has goregous beaches, beautiful women, nice people and incredible food and drink. And all without the spectacle of Carnival Cruise Lines disgorging 3000 Paula Deen fans making the daily piligrimage to The Hard Rock Cafe.

Mrbogey: Yea, I work with a guy who insists everywhere is better than where he lives.

Seems a pretty common belief among the easily led.

Or people from Akron, Tallahasse or Laredo.

Mrbogey: Yea, I work with a guy who insists everywhere is better than where he lives.

Seems a pretty common belief among the easily led.

Yeah, but you live in ____ everywhere IS better than where you live.

As long as the modern GOP is around, gays will have unequal rights in this country. We must sabotage the GOP to get them to confront their own homophobia.

Nothing has convinced me that they are greenlighting ANYTHING like that headline did subby.

but.... we want it to be called holy matrimony.

No gay Cuban hit squad or Ramon Limon references?

FARK, I am disapoint.

In other news, you can be arrested and put in prison for thinking wrong in Cuba.

EbolaNYC: In other news, you can be arrested and put in prison for thinking wrong in Cuba.

Citation Needed.

Captain_Ballbeard: EbolaNYC: In other news, you can be arrested and put in prison for thinking wrong in Cuba.

Citation Needed.

I am wondering if you are drawing a line between "thinking" wrong and reporting it.

Cause you are technically correct about "thinking", but when it comes to what you report or say in Cuba he is right.



Cuba has the most restrictive laws on free speech and press freedom in the Americas, and at least 24 journalists were in prison in the country during 2009. The constitution prohibits private ownership of media outlets and allows speech and journalism only if they "conform to the aims of a socialist society." Moreover, Cuba's legal and institutional structures are firmly under the control of the executive branch. Among other legal mechanisms, laws criminalizing "enemy propaganda" and the dissemination of "unauthorized news" are used to restrict freedom of speech under the guise of protecting state security. Insult laws carry penalties of three months to one year in prison, with sentences of up to three years if the president or members of the Council of State or National Assembly are the objects of criticism. The 1997 Law of National Dignity, which provides for prison sentences of 3 to 10 years for "anyone who, in a direct or indirect form, collaborates with the enemy's media," is aimed at independent news agencies that send their material abroad. (new window)

Cuba has some serious human/civil rights problems; intrusive surveillance of citizens, minimal restrictions and oversight on police, a political class composed of the wealthy and a worker class with little or no say in government actions. There are even bills before their legislature to further remove the rights of the populace.

We should probably invade Cuba to restore their pre-fifties government and...

No, wait, that's the U.S.? Really?

Before you say "Hey, America ain't nothing like Cuba", I agree, to a point. But, we seem to be pointed toward totalitarian, authoritarian leaders... This post is probably being watched for anti-JKp'ojser9pt,____Please see your local infosoc rep for further instruction. Thank you.

jedihirsch: Civil Unions are not the same as Marriage. Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity support gay civil unions but not marriage. Besides Mariela Castro is a Gay activist who, unlike most of her colleagues, can avoid getting arrested because of who her daddy is. Besides she has claimed this numerous times in the past and it never happened, so there is not reason to beleive it here. while the article claims about changes for gays in Cuba, but the only proof to that is the state run TV, according to defectors, gays are still treaty shiatty there. So we are to trust Rauls daughter who has claimed this dozens of times before over the last decade and Cuban state propaganda. Please, give me a break

You are retarded. Read the idiot goo you just ejaculated from your idiot gland and try again.

Come on, this is still a country where it is illegal for a local to eat a steak unless a tourist purchases it for them.