Another reason why anyone with a small dog should be drug out into the street and executed in front of their family and neighbors.

Eat the Rich _pets

duffblue: Another reason why anyone with a small dog should be drug out into the street and executed in front of their family and neighbors.

Paul Allen: Why are their copies of the style section all over the place, d-do you have a dog? A little chow or something?
Patrick Bateman: No, Allen.
Paul Allen: Is that a rain coat?
Patrick Bateman: Yes it is! In '87, Huey released this, Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself.
Patrick Bateman: Hey Paul!
Patrick Bateman: TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW YOU farkING STUPID BASTARD! YOU, farkING BASTARD!

itwasabright: duffblue: Another reason why anyone with a small dog should be drug out into the street and executed in front of their family and neighbors.

Paul Allen: Why are their copies of the style section all over the place, d-do you have a dog? A little chow or something?
Patrick Bateman: No, Allen.
Paul Allen: Is that a rain coat?
Patrick Bateman: Yes it is! In '87, Huey released this, Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself.
Patrick Bateman: Hey Paul!
Patrick Bateman: TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW YOU farkING STUPID BASTARD! YOU, farkING BASTARD!

I get that a lot. Or "lighten up Francis." Not too sure why.

Hey... my pets get organic kibble made with decent meat ingredients and not Chinese mystery protein. I imagine it pays for itself in the long run, considering the typical cost of vet care for geriatric animals.

As for all that other stuff... I suspect that past a certain threshold of comfort and satiety, animals don't care. Whoa.

I don't get it. Its not like the animal know what the hell is going on or lives all that long.

Where does the money go after the animal dies? Probate then to relatives? What?

No Such Agency: Hey... my pets get organic kibble made with decent meat ingredients and not Chinese mystery protein. I imagine it pays for itself in the long run, considering the typical cost of vet care for geriatric animals.

As for all that other stuff... I suspect that past a certain threshold of comfort and satiety, animals don't care. Whoa.

Here too, mainly because he smells so much better when eating good food, also less shedding.
//If your pet regularly smells and farts, try organic food (not the big brand organic either, I'm talking the no filler grade A meat, the big brand organic is still low grade with plenty of filler, its just organic )

After that nationwide melamine contamination killed all those pets, we switched to organic human-grade dog food. Well worth it. (I've never tried it (new window), but the dog is happy. No shilling, just saying.)

/And yes, eat the rich

OTOH when the rich Bimbo gets tired of her accessory, it's off to the pound with him.

duffblue: Another reason why anyone with a small dog should be drug out into the street and executed in front of their family and neighbors.

Hey now, miniature pinschers are big dogs in a small dog body...mine doesn't yap incessantly for no reason, she's a good dog who gets regular food and an occasional treat. And no trust fund. Don't execute me!

Tag should be "sick".

I'm no "occupier" by no means and have always considered myself a conservative but seeing these kinds of spending knowing there are people out there barely making it juuuuuuuuuust nudges me over to the left side a little.

We raw feed our cat. We converted her over from junk food to good food by completely coating the good food in kibble each meal time and gradually reducing the amount of kibble 2-3 pieces at a time. Within 2 weeks she was off the junk food diet.

I costed out the most expensive option for raw feeding versus the cheapest option for tinned/kibble feeding and it works out (in $AUD) that the most expensive option for raw feeding cost $/month more than the cheapest option for tinned/kibble feeding. Scary, no?

Cat is never ill, goes to the vet once per year for her annual checkup & booster vax. Glossy, gorgeous coat, no stinky poop or pee, pleasant breath and very sweet temper - all a result of the healthy diet. :D

that was $4/month even

I posted this elsewhere but it may be relevant to your interests, so...

I've been wondering why people don't raw feed their cats (which is healthier for the cat). I thought it was because it was more expensive, until I sat down and worked out how much we spend on raw feeding our girl each week, and how much we'd be spending if we bought her what we used to buy her in tins & kibble.

Cost per month tins & kibble ($AUD): $54
Cost per month raw feeding ($AUD): $36

And then I thought what about the amount of work involved. And originally it WAS a lot of work - I was buying her cheaper cuts so I would have to cut things into portions for her, but then I got lazy & started spending extra to avoid having to do that, so she's getting mid-range human consumption-quality cuts.

So, if you wanted to go the cheaper route (which is still human consumption quality, but slightly less 'yummy' from our perspective - hearts, gibblets, etc) it would be closer to:

Cost per month tins & kibble ($AUD): $54
Cost per month raw feeding on the cheap ($AUD): $11

Now I know I'm not being fair, so I'll factor in the stupidly cheap and incredibly nasty home brand cat food.

Cost per month tins & kibble of homebrand nastiness ($AUD): $32
Cost per month raw feeding on the cheap ($AUD): $11

Did you notice what I just did? I kid you not, I have been doing the math while writing this using my own spending for raw feeding costs and aussie bulk cat food websites for the tinned/kibble prices. I wasn't expecting the cost of the cheapest option with tinned/kibble feeding to be $4/month cheaper than the most expensive option for raw feeding! I swear I'm not schilling anything, I'm just freaking stunned.

Anan eats:

Breakfast: muscle meat (casserole beef or stir-fry beef) 7 times a week, occassionally combined (up to 3 x per week) with a raw egg.
Dinner: chicken wingettes (1/3 of a wing) - 2 pcs 5-6 times a week, chicken liver 1-2 times a week.

The difference between her eating the above diet and the one she gets at the cattery (kibble is allowed as a holiday treat) is huge. At home her coat is always soft & glossy (that's the eggs), her teeth are strong, sharp and clean (that's the wings) she's full of energy and her poop & pee don't stink horribly(that's the lack of grains and the long protein strands she has to digest). After the cattery, her coat is coarser and duller, she's more lethargic and her poop and pee STINKS! And that's the difference of two days with kibble being the only notable difference in her diet.

Anyway, the TLDR is - what's the reasoning behind tinned/kibble feeding? It's not price and it sure as hell isn't health!

I just started raw feeding my cat Nicholas ground sirloin, and cut up chicken. I am still weening him off all cat food. I already notice his coat is lush, and shedding is down. And I get enough time from a catbox before a redux that I'm almost embarrassed about it. Poop is way down. He gets yeast tablets and a multivitamin just in case. He considers them treats. His energy is off the chart.

I'm nowhere NEAR the 1%, but I still manage not to feed my cats garbage.

Pets smell better, are easier to clean up after, don't shed as much, and don't have nearly as many health problems when you feed them foods that have little to no cheap filler grains, have lots of whole meat, meat meal and healthy organ meat, and aren't pumped full of Chinese crap.

You pay more up front but you save so much in the long run.

We switched our two GSD's to Taste of the Wild on account of Angus' EPI. The results have been shocking. Their fur is less oily and softer, they have more energy and best of all, Angus is finally having firm healthy stool. We came to the conclusion that it didn't matter how much we adjusted the amount of enzymes, the final piece to the puzzle was the food.

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Matthew Keene: I just started raw feeding my cat Nicholas ground sirloin, and cut up chicken. I am still weening him off all cat food. I already notice his coat is lush, and shedding is down. And I get enough time from a catbox before a redux that I'm almost embarrassed about it. Poop is way down. He gets yeast tablets and a multivitamin just in case. He considers them treats. His energy is off the chart.

My last cat had FUTD (Feline Urinary Tract Disease for those of you lucky enough not to know) and they wanted me to put him on some nice expensive "prescription food." Absurd. None of the vets or vet techs I saw would admit that it was the processed cat food I had been feeding him that caused the problem to begin with and that I should be feeding him more natural foods, which have the right acidity almost by default.
People are getting rich off this prescription cat food scam.
/Rant over.

My dog's food bill runs about $50/month for Orijen Regional Red. For years I fed her Beneful until I found a site that reviews dog foods and their ingredients. turns out I had been feeding her the dog version of fast food for most of her life. I immediately switched her over to the new brand and while it costs several times as much she seems to enjoy it a lot more and her OCD-like paw licking has stopped for the most part.

/csb
//will spare no expense for that dog
///best.dog.evar.

I want to be Gigoo the Hen's caretaker. Chickens cost next to nothing to keep happy.

But I don't want to know what she did to earn that inheritance.

OBBN:

And as Conservative as I am I have only one thing to say: Fark You Paris Hilton and Fark You hard. People are losing their homes and instead of helping your fellow humans you spend $300k on a house for your lap rat. I hope the both of you DIAF.


To you it's excessive, sure, but it's her money. Why shouldn't she be able to spend it however she sees fit?

/my Chloe has a custom handmade collar
//and various other designer things
///just because

Hell I'm spending $15/month rent for the little farker my wife has. Plus the non-refundable 'deposit'. He's getting the cheap shiat and he'll like it.

GuyFawkes: To you it's excessive, sure, but it's her money. Why shouldn't she be able to spend it however she sees fit?

Because she's a vacuous waste of flesh?

AlwaysRightBoy: Have you ever tried ALPO beef chunks on a bed of extra-wide al dente egg noodles?

Sure, that's good, but you can feed the crew at 1/2 the price using wal-mort's Ol' Roy brand. our kids couldn't tell the difference!

duffblue: Another reason why anyone with a small dog should be drug out into the street and executed in front of their family and neighbors.

die slow and hard yourself how's that - Francissss

Boston Terriers have taught me more about dogs than I thought possible.
#1) size is not an indicator of intelligence in dogs
#2) Bostons (and I suspect most small dogs) do not realize they are small and so will be just as protective as a Doberman - effective? perhaps not but I'm not willing to find out.
#3) I have owned 4 large dogs prior to the Bostons I have now. NONE loved me as hard as these little guys do.
#4) I now have more empathy towards people that are desperately attached to their dog.
#5) I have less use for cats than I ever have.

Have a day

The cheap shiat is the only stuff my one cat will eat! imokwiththis.jpg

Nope, I fresh feed my dogs. They get carrots, clementines and watermelon as treats, while they get a varied diet of meats, veggies and rices that I cook up on my own and that my vet has approved. Since I usually use trimmings and leavings from what I make for dinner, I essentially feed them for free.

I work for a pet supply store. We carry only healthy brands. All the ones you Farkers have mentioned are good foods for your animals. I'd also highly recommend Weruva, Blue and Wellness. FYI.

Dadoody: I don't get it. Its not like the animal know what the hell is going on or lives all that long.

Where does the money go after the animal dies? Probate then to relatives? What?

My pets are due to 'inherit' a small amount of money. It's not really for them, it's to help the family member who gets them to care for them after I'm gone.

Course, it's no where near a million dollars, so I don't know what the heck they are doing with all that extra cash.

/solid gold dog bowls?

Julieahni: I work for a pet supply store. We carry only healthy brands. All the ones you Farkers have mentioned are good foods for your animals. I'd also highly recommend Weruva, Blue and Wellness. FYI.

I tried Wellness and Orijen sample packs for Chloe and she took to the Orijen much faster and really seemed to love it so that's what I stuck with. The local store carries Orijen and they deliver too, so that helps!

/Chloe will have the best of everything I can give her
//she doesn't care
//I do

To anybody who preaches about "no by-products" in their pets' food, what is it called when an predator in the wild eats an animal, guts and all?

GoldSpider: To anybody who preaches about "no by-products" in their pets' food, what is it called when an predator in the wild eats an animal, guts and all?

Link (new window)

That site explains a lot about what is really in the lower cost and low quality foods.

When I got my youngest cat as a kitten she was having digestive issues, so the vet recommended using a single protein source food. We switched both cats over to Natural Balance Duck and Green Pea. That worked well for 3 yrs. Now she appears to have IBD probably caused by food allergies. I will ask about the raw diet for her.

She had trouble with fish and chicken previously and now duck is out. Is fresh venison reasonably cheap?

GuyFawkes: GoldSpider: To anybody who preaches about "no by-products" in their pets' food, what is it called when an predator in the wild eats an animal, guts and all?

Link (new window)

That site explains a lot about what is really in the lower cost and low quality foods.

And trust me if I could get my little cat to eat more of the better stuff, I'd get it (provided that her overall health showed marked improvement).

Sebastian: Is fresh venison reasonably cheap?

I've tried feeding my cats both raw and cooked ground venison, and without fail it came back up a few minutes later. YMMV, of course.

Winterssnowykiss: We switched our two GSD's to Taste of the Wild on account of Angus' EPI. The results have been shocking. Their fur is less oily and softer, they have more energy and best of all, Angus is finally having firm healthy stool. We came to the conclusion that it didn't matter how much we adjusted the amount of enzymes, the final piece to the puzzle was the food.

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My dog used to have lots of allergy and skin issues until I came across Taste of the Wild in my local Tractor & Trailer store. That food is phenomenal. I really think it's high grade at a not-too bad price. Feeding the same to my cat and they both have healthy coats and no shedding issues like before (besides the normal seasonal).

Oh, and just to put it out there, my little cat is a finicky eater and seems to have some anxiety/compulsive grooming issues (though they've gotten better). My big cat used to have urinary tract infection issues, and now has become (and remained) "territorial" after personality conflicts with my ex-girlfriend's cat. If there is a solution to either of these that is as easy to fix as food, I'm all ears!

GuyFawkes: Julieahni: I work for a pet supply store. We carry only healthy brands. All the ones you Farkers have mentioned are good foods for your animals. I'd also highly recommend Weruva, Blue and Wellness. FYI.

I tried Wellness and Orijen sample packs for Chloe and she took to the Orijen much faster and really seemed to love it so that's what I stuck with. The local store carries Orijen and they deliver too, so that helps!

/Chloe will have the best of everything I can give her
//she doesn't care
//I do

It's great that there are now many healthy options for pets. The pet supply industry is really doing well in this economy, I'd like to add.

Julieahni: The pet supply industry is really doing well in this economy, I'd like to add.

Indeed, the economy has driven a large number of people to dog food.

/My brother was partial to dry cat food.

GoldSpider:

And trust me if I could get my little cat to eat more of the better stuff, I'd get it (provided that her overall health showed marked improvement).

Chloe used to lick her paws for hours on end. I did a bit of research and found that dogs with gluten allergies can have very itchy paws which leads to obsessive licking. I changed her over to Orijen and the paw licking was reduced a lot. She has also lost a small amount of weight (nearly back down to her normal 28 lbs) with roughly the same amount of exercise as years ago, so that's good too. Just my two cents - I have nothing but good things to report with high-end food.

GoldSpider: Julieahni: The pet supply industry is really doing well in this economy, I'd like to add.

Indeed, the economy has driven a large number of people to dog food.

/My brother was partial to dry cat food.

That's not what I meant. You're not saving money on this food. You're keeping your pets healthy.

This is my own two cents, but I am one of a number of people who are caring for pets instead of kids. Pets are a heck of a lot cheaper, so people can really pamper them well without breaking the bank. But, I digress.

GoldSpider: Sebastian: Is fresh venison reasonably cheap?

I've tried feeding my cats both raw and cooked ground venison, and without fail it came back up a few minutes later. YMMV, of course.

We are still waiting for some test results to come back, but the vet is talking about a grain-free diet and introducing two novel protein sources. Just looking at what is out there, it seems like venison is probably going to be one of the proteins, maybe lamb as the other. The medication is working, she hasn't puked in almost a week and has an appetite again.

GuyFawkes: Julieahni: I work for a pet supply store. We carry only healthy brands. All the ones you Farkers have mentioned are good foods for your animals. I'd also highly recommend Weruva, Blue and Wellness. FYI.

I tried Wellness and Orijen sample packs for Chloe and she took to the Orijen much faster and really seemed to love it so that's what I stuck with. The local store carries Orijen and they deliver too, so that helps!

/Chloe will have the best of everything I can give her
//she doesn't care
//I do

I work at Pets on the Run. LOL. I'm your local store.

Julieahni:

I work at Pets on the Run. LOL. I'm your local store.

That's even closer than the place I use on Ditmars! So, do you carry Orijen Regional Red in either 5 or 15lb bags?

/love supporting local businesses
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GuyFawkes: Julieahni:

I work at Pets on the Run. LOL. I'm your local store.

That's even closer than the place I use on Ditmars! So, do you carry Orijen Regional Red in either 5 or 15lb bags?

/love supporting local businesses
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Both sizes. And we have free delivery.