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(Daily Mail)   Step forward if you never had a lengthy premarital affair with the sixty-something abortion provider who delivered you as a baby. Not so fast, Karen Santorum   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2012-01-18 01:15:30 PM  

CapnBlues: syberpud: BenJammin: Santorum sucks but keep his wife's pre-Santorum history out of it.

Agree - like we don't have enough reasons to dread a Santorum presidency? We need to include his wife?

Also, does this mean all politicians spouses are fair game, or just the ones a given pundit doesn't like?

In the indelible words of Sarah Palin, "All of them." They have been fair game for at least 20 years. Remember when Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea Clinton a dog on national TV? It wasn't even on live TV. Yes, families and friends are fair game in electoral politics.


Gotta disagree with you there. Families and especially children should not be dragged into the fray unless the adult family members choose to enter. I haven't heard Karen Santorum say anything publicly about her husband's policies. I don't think applauding at her husband's side at rallies justifies attacking her or any other spouse of a candidate or politician.
IMO of course
 
2012-01-18 01:16:36 PM  

CapnBlues: skullkrusher: CapnBlues: skullkrusher: coeyagi: No, I guess not, as long as Rick publicly chastizes his wife, which I am sure he is preparing to do right now.

you're the kind of dude who gets off on dominating and embarrassing women in public, aren't you?

i wasn't aware there was any other way to get off. if you have insights, please do share them.

dog bowl at home, dog leash in public. That's my motto

WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN

I'd wiki this, but today? sigh.


See? More proof that SOPA sucks. It has bullshiat citations on the Fark politics tab at a virtual standstill :)
 
2012-01-18 01:17:08 PM  

skullkrusher: coeyagi: //worked as a women's health educator in Africa, just so you know, in case you plan on making more wild theories / stabs in the dark.

but yet you are suggesting he slut-shame his wife in public for things she did and believed 23-30 years ago?


You are suggesting it has something to do with her being a woman. Why, I don't know.

And you aren't addressing the fact that he is willing to put people in jail for their liberal sexual escapades (that result in contraceptive use or abortions) but he won't ridicule his wife for supporting abortion rights?
 
2012-01-18 01:17:13 PM  
Sorry, but what the hell is a "premarital affair"?

You mean dating? Is this the 50s? WHAT YEAR IS IT
 
2012-01-18 01:17:25 PM  

RexTalionis: Is it me, or does the fact that she was dating the guy who pulled her out of her mother's vagina several decades prior seem very creepy?


I think I know what the guy's original cunning plan was...

i3.squidoocdn.com
 
2012-01-18 01:18:27 PM  

skullkrusher: CapnBlues: syberpud: BenJammin: Santorum sucks but keep his wife's pre-Santorum history out of it.

Agree - like we don't have enough reasons to dread a Santorum presidency? We need to include his wife?

Also, does this mean all politicians spouses are fair game, or just the ones a given pundit doesn't like?

In the indelible words of Sarah Palin, "All of them." They have been fair game for at least 20 years. Remember when Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea Clinton a dog on national TV? It wasn't even on live TV. Yes, families and friends are fair game in electoral politics.

Gotta disagree with you there. Families and especially children should not be dragged into the fray unless the adult family members choose to enter. I haven't heard Karen Santorum say anything publicly about her husband's policies. I don't think applauding at her husband's side at rallies justifies attacking her or any other spouse of a candidate or politician.
IMO of course


Oh dude, I agree with you that it SHOULDN'T happen. But because of the environment in which we live, I don't think we can say that anyone is out of bounds, even Karen Assjuice (new window). It's a shame, but I was describing what is, not what should be.
 
2012-01-18 01:18:38 PM  

CapnBlues: skullkrusher: coeyagi: No, I guess not, as long as Rick publicly chastizes his wife, which I am sure he is preparing to do right now.

you're the kind of dude who gets off on dominating and embarrassing women in public, aren't you?

i wasn't aware there was any other way to get off. if you have insights, please do share them.


You can also dominate and embarrass women in private.
 
2012-01-18 01:19:31 PM  

skullkrusher: coeyagi: No, I guess not, as long as Rick publicly chastizes his wife, which I am sure he is preparing to do right now.

you're the kind of dude who gets off on dominating and embarrassing women in public, aren't you?



Does "on video" count as "in public?"
 
2012-01-18 01:19:56 PM  

palelizard: CapnBlues: skullkrusher: coeyagi: No, I guess not, as long as Rick publicly chastizes his wife, which I am sure he is preparing to do right now.

you're the kind of dude who gets off on dominating and embarrassing women in public, aren't you?

i wasn't aware there was any other way to get off. if you have insights, please do share them.

You can also dominate and embarrass women in private.


maybe YOU can.
 
2012-01-18 01:20:43 PM  
I don't care about this report, but it is another reminder that potential first spouses are given too much importance in the race (too much = more than zero). And then given too much importance once their spouse is elected. First Lady (or Husband) is not a real thing. These people should have no power or role in government whatsoever. It's hard enough to find one person worth voting for.
 
2012-01-18 01:21:12 PM  

Jairzinho: RexTalionis: Is it me, or does the fact that she was dating the guy who pulled her out of her mother's vagina several decades prior seem very creepy?

I think I know what the guy's original cunning plan was...

[i3.squidoocdn.com image 250x250]


img.memecenter.com
This seems relevant
 
2012-01-18 01:23:04 PM  
why is it that republican politicians always have the most screwed up personal lives? it's like their drive to "change the world to a better place" is entirely internal, and simply a metaphor for how void of moral common sense they are themselves
 
2012-01-18 01:26:54 PM  
Creepy... it's all just creepy.
 
2012-01-18 01:27:46 PM  

AdamK: why is it that republican politicians always have the most screwed up personal lives? it's like their drive to "change the world to a better place" is entirely internal, and simply a metaphor for how void of moral common sense they are themselves


Because the only way they can rationalize it and live with themselves is to put it into a narrative of their own perspective. There's nothing wrong with me, it's everyone else! They must change to be like me, then I will be justified
 
2012-01-18 01:27:47 PM  

coeyagi: You are suggesting it has something to do with her being a woman. Why, I don't know.


you want him to embarrass his wife publicly about her sexual past. How is that not about her being a woman? You said something stupid dude, just let it go.

coeyagi: And you aren't addressing the fact that he is willing to put people in jail for their liberal sexual escapades (that result in contraceptive use or abortions) but he won't ridicule his wife for supporting abortion rights?


she doesn't support abortion rights. Maybe he did ridicule her in the past? Who knows? Why does it matter? She's not the one running for office. Why do you demand he publicly berate his wife because of a Daily Mail story?
 
2012-01-18 01:28:25 PM  

CapnBlues: palelizard: CapnBlues: skullkrusher: coeyagi: No, I guess not, as long as Rick publicly chastizes his wife, which I am sure he is preparing to do right now.

you're the kind of dude who gets off on dominating and embarrassing women in public, aren't you?

i wasn't aware there was any other way to get off. if you have insights, please do share them.

You can also dominate and embarrass women in private.

maybe YOU can.


I embarrass my wife in public all the time
 
2012-01-18 01:28:32 PM  

Diogenes: thismomentinblackhistory: OMG a single woman had a May/December romance and her political views may have changed over time. With so much Santorum to fling at Santorum this seems kinda cheap.

Also, dude looks like the Most Interesting Abortion Doctor in the World.

[a2.twimg.com image 200x250]
Stay fertile, my friends.


I don't always bang young college girls... oh who the hell am I kidding... of course I do... who wants that old wrinkled middle-aged stuff when you can bang a different perky young coed multiple times per day?
 
2012-01-18 01:29:04 PM  
It only means that, as a politician, or as a person near a politician, you have to be absolutely borderline and narcissistic about things. Also: why a UK newspaper bring this news ?
 
2012-01-18 01:29:36 PM  

skullkrusher: you want him to embarrass his wife publicly about her sexual past. How is that not about her being a woman? You said something stupid dude, just let it go


If he would want the same thing done to the husband of a female candidate, then it has nothing to do with being a woman, just being a spouse to a douche.
 
2012-01-18 01:29:51 PM  

Jake Havechek: So what? Nancy Reagan was the blowjob queen of Hollywood.


That has no basis in reality!

She put out. You don't get knocked up for your shotgun wedding by swallowing.
 
2012-01-18 01:31:07 PM  

CapnBlues: BilltheThrill: It is pretty messed up if anyone tries to make this a political issue. This has nothing to do with the campaign, and is not relevant in any way to her husband's candidacy.

"swiftboat veterans for truth" had nothing to do with the 2004 campaign, but it tanked the kerry candidacy.


I'm not defending it, but at least they were talking about the actual candidate and not something the candidate's wife did before she even knew the candidate. This is really silly.
 
2012-01-18 01:31:36 PM  
So she had an abortion because her life was in danger, but she and her husband oppose them for everyone else. And now we find out she had a lengthy per-marital affair with a man 40 years older than her, who delivered her as a baby, and provided abortion services.

CAN THESE PEOPLE GET ANY MORE WEIRD/CONFUSED?
 
2012-01-18 01:31:57 PM  

skullkrusher: coeyagi: You are suggesting it has something to do with her being a woman. Why, I don't know.

you want him to embarrass his wife publicly about her sexual past. How is that not about her being a woman? You said something stupid dude, just let it go.

coeyagi: And you aren't addressing the fact that he is willing to put people in jail for their liberal sexual escapades (that result in contraceptive use or abortions) but he won't ridicule his wife for supporting abortion rights?

she doesn't support abortion rights. Maybe he did ridicule her in the past? Who knows? Why does it matter? She's not the one running for office. Why do you demand he publicly berate his wife because of a Daily Mail story?


Because it could be about anyone in his family. How is that anything to do with her being a woman? You said somethign stupid dude, let it go.

IF THAT ASSHOLE wants to ruin my life because of his Jebus-complex, the least he can do is ridicule someone in his family for being impure.

//You said somethign stupid dude, let it go.

//You said somethign stupid dude, let it go.

//You said somethign stupid dude, let it go.

//You said somethign stupid dude, let it go.
 
2012-01-18 01:32:32 PM  
*something
 
2012-01-18 01:33:03 PM  

AdamK: why is it that republican politicians always have the most screwed up personal lives? it's like their drive to "change the world to a better place" is entirely internal, and simply a metaphor for how void of moral common sense they are themselves


It is because none of them actually believe any of the crap that is coming out of their mouths. They are just pandering to these other people that claim they are more moral to everybody else and use that as an excuse to look down their noses at others.
 
2012-01-18 01:33:42 PM  
I think spouses do have a significant impact. Most people I know have their thinking and behavior modified by their spouses. I know my wife has influenced me in many ways, and I have influenced her.

I have to think that some of the hard line positions Santorum espouses are influenced by his wife's hatred of Dr. Allen when she realized that she was just a toy to him, and Santorum's hatred of the guy that was farking his wife before him. Sounds like typical behavior to me.
 
2012-01-18 01:35:07 PM  

quoinguy: I can't believe the article was written, let alone picked up by FARK.
Turn the table by saying a single Michelle Obama dated an unmarried conservative, like some cousin of the Koch's to pick a random straw, 20+ years ago.
Who cares?
Plenty of people change their views from those they had in their 20s. And she's not the one running for office.


It's a little more than that. The guy was an abortion doctor, FFS, and it was a long-term relationship. And then to move on to.......what the hell is that guy, anyway? That's not just a slight evolution of your viewpoint. That's a complete about-face. And that's odd.

No, she's not the one running for office. But what the hell? As if Santorum isn't weird enough, his wife seems to be little loony too.
 
2012-01-18 01:37:16 PM  

CapnBlues: syberpud: BenJammin: Santorum sucks but keep his wife's pre-Santorum history out of it.

Agree - like we don't have enough reasons to dread a Santorum presidency? We need to include his wife?

Also, does this mean all politicians spouses are fair game, or just the ones a given pundit doesn't like?

In the indelible words of Sarah Palin, "All of them." They have been fair game for at least 20 years. Remember when Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea Clinton a dog on national TV? It wasn't even on live TV. Yes, families and friends are fair game in electoral politics.


Letting the Rush set the bar on what should be fair game is idiotic. The Republicans should not be emulated and Frothies wife should be off limits.

I want to add, when Limbaugh went after Chelsea and the Republicans started joining in, it was a major turn off for a lot of voters. Really, watching grown men verbally attack a 12 year old girl because they didn't like her parents was very telling as to what kind of character the average Republican really admires.
 
2012-01-18 01:37:22 PM  

coeyagi: skullkrusher: coeyagi: You are suggesting it has something to do with her being a woman. Why, I don't know.

you want him to embarrass his wife publicly about her sexual past. How is that not about her being a woman? You said something stupid dude, just let it go.

coeyagi: And you aren't addressing the fact that he is willing to put people in jail for their liberal sexual escapades (that result in contraceptive use or abortions) but he won't ridicule his wife for supporting abortion rights?

she doesn't support abortion rights. Maybe he did ridicule her in the past? Who knows? Why does it matter? She's not the one running for office. Why do you demand he publicly berate his wife because of a Daily Mail story?

Because it could be about anyone in his family. How is that anything to do with her being a woman? You said somethign stupid dude, let it go.

IF THAT ASSHOLE wants to ruin my life because of his Jebus-complex, the least he can do is ridicule someone in his family for being impure.

//You said somethign stupid dude, let it go.

//You said somethign stupid dude, let it go.

//You said somethign stupid dude, let it go.

//You said somethign stupid dude, let it go.


you just cracked.
 
2012-01-18 01:38:35 PM  
This is the way I read it:

"The wife of fiercely pro-life presidential hopeful Rick Santorum had a six-year love affair with an abortion doctor, 40 years her senior - who, incredibly, delivered her as a baby - it has as it emerged."

/wat
 
2012-01-18 01:39:27 PM  
In light of it being the Daily Mail, all I can say is:

pleasebetruepleasebetruepleasebetruepleasebetruepleasebetruepleasebet r uepleasebetruepleasebetrue
 
2012-01-18 01:42:18 PM  
The difference between being ok with abortion and against it boil down to whether one believes that it counts as a life at any given stage.

The difference between being 'pro-life' and being a 'female-controlling douchebag hypocrite who calls themselves pro-life' is that the latter makes a big deal about mistreating the baby at 1 month in the womb, but also won't let women enjoy sex without consequences, won't help poor children get a chance at life through welfare programs, will have 7 kids of their farking own instead of adopting any of the lives that could use someone who cared about them, will support the death penalty, and is probably a warmonger to boot.

Some people get upset that folks have a different view of abortion than they do. Not me. But I will consider you an asshat if you can't be consistent in your claims to being so concerned about humanity and society.
 
2012-01-18 01:43:09 PM  

DarnoKonrad: This is the kind of story that discredits santorum's critics. Who she dated is irrelevant.


While this seems sort of irrelevant and silly to me, Santorum's critics are far, far away from being discredited. Santorum shovels them new material every time he opens his mouth.
 
2012-01-18 01:43:27 PM  
Better get O'Reilly on this.
 
2012-01-18 01:43:39 PM  

That Guy in the Dos Equis Commercials: I can't stand the Santorums and what they stand for, but that being said I would hate to be judged now by things I did in my twenties.


If you ran for office, do you think that you wouldn't be? And that goes for your SO, too.

Probably not right, but it comes with the territory.
 
2012-01-18 01:46:35 PM  

cryinoutloud: That Guy in the Dos Equis Commercials: I can't stand the Santorums and what they stand for, but that being said I would hate to be judged now by things I did in my twenties.

If you ran for office, do you think that you wouldn't be? And that goes for your SO, too.

Probably not right, but it comes with the territory.


If I run for office, I can't think of anything that has happened in my 20s (which is currently still on-going) that could even be brought up as a campaign issue.

/Lived a boring life
 
2012-01-18 01:46:46 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: RexTalionis: Is it me, or does the fact that she was dating the guy who pulled her out of her mother's vagina several decades prior seem very creepy?

If anything, it speaks to the man's patience.


what you did there

i see it

/too lazy to find corresponding meme
 
2012-01-18 01:48:43 PM  

Another Pretentious Nickname: I don't care about this report, but it is another reminder that potential first spouses are given too much importance in the race (too much = more than zero). And then given too much importance once their spouse is elected. First Lady (or Husband) is not a real thing. These people should have no power or role in government whatsoever. It's hard enough to find one person worth voting for.


I'm with you there, coming from a country where this doesn't really exist and where the head of government's spouse is usually invisible.

However, at times a candidate's spouse is a crucial supporting actor because they humanize the candidate and makes the voter feel like they "know" something about that person and who that person is. Seeing their spouse tells us who they've chosen to spend their life with. That tells you a lot about somebody. If the spouse wants to play a supporting role in the campaign, it can add to an appealing narrative about the candidate and how his or her beliefs and values affect his or her life. They're important surrogates and advocates. In some cases they may be political figures in their own right and can help draw in important constituencies, as in the case of both Clintons. Or they may be more popular than even the candidate/elected official (as in the case of the incredible Betty Ford.) However, I think we have to make a distinction between spouses who choose to be in the spotlight and those who prefer a lower-key role. Prominent spouses must absolutely be considered as top figures in their spouse's campaigns, and thus politically relevant and open to scrutiny as part of the campaign. (Think Callista Gingrich, or Marcus Bachmann.) For those who aren't choosing a prominent role, I think they must be respected in that choice. Michelle Obama tried to duck the spotlight somewhat with Sasha and Malia in 2007-2008 until about mid-August, and that was not respected. I think that was wrong. Cindy McCain was unnecessarily and harshly subjected to detailed exposés about her mental health and substance abuse problems. That strikes me as deeply unfair and unnecessary.

When the family is politicized by choice of the candidate, though, is there too much of this for the confines of taste? Absolutely. Think in terms of the First Dude's enduring influence, or Bristol Palin, or Tipper Gore. Think in terms of the Santorums themselves, who are running not only on their marriage as an ideal that everyone else should be following, but even more specifically, on their children (the daughter is emerging as a surrogate and has done interviews), and they have even politicized Karen Santorum's miscarriage in her book. For some of these figures the personalization IS the politics, and that's not the politics that many people want.

/will cautiously approve Romney's Hunk Sons: they're better to look at than Romney
 
2012-01-18 01:51:17 PM  

skullkrusher: she doesn't support abortion rights. Maybe he did ridicule her in the past? Who knows? Why does it matter? She's not the one running for office. Why do you demand he publicly berate his wife because of a Daily Mail story?


Because if Michelle Obama had an abortion, and used to fark the guy that delivered her (who also performed abortions) and seemingly didn't have a problem with abortions until she met Barack and he became a politician then suddenly started advocating "no sex before marriage" and "no abortions, even if the mothers life is in jeopardy", we would TOTALLY NEVER hear about it or anything from the right wing nuts.

DO YOU SEE HOW STUPID YOU ARE?


This is why I have you highlighted in gray, so that I can identify your stupid comments. Because all you do all day is log in and comment 200 times a day, and you have never said anything that is not completely retarded.
 
2012-01-18 01:52:44 PM  
RexTalionis: Is it me, or does the fact that she was dating the guy who pulled her out of her mother's vagina several decades prior seem very creepy?

That, on the other hand, doesn't faze me at all. It's not like he looked at the newborn and thought, Ooohhhh, baby!! Someday you're going to come to Daddy!

/at least I hope not.
 
2012-01-18 01:53:06 PM  

spiderpaz: skullkrusher: she doesn't support abortion rights. Maybe he did ridicule her in the past? Who knows? Why does it matter? She's not the one running for office. Why do you demand he publicly berate his wife because of a Daily Mail story?

Because if Michelle Obama had an abortion, and used to fark the guy that delivered her (who also performed abortions) and seemingly didn't have a problem with abortions until she met Barack and he became a politician then suddenly started advocating "no sex before marriage" and "no abortions, even if the mothers life is in jeopardy", we would TOTALLY NEVER hear about it or anything from the right wing nuts.

DO YOU SEE HOW STUPID YOU ARE?

This is why I have you highlighted in gray, so that I can identify your stupid comments. Because all you do all day is log in and comment 200 times a day, and you have never said anything that is not completely retarded.


Dear, you're yelling.
 
2012-01-18 01:55:27 PM  

spiderpaz: skullkrusher: she doesn't support abortion rights. Maybe he did ridicule her in the past? Who knows? Why does it matter? She's not the one running for office. Why do you demand he publicly berate his wife because of a Daily Mail story?

Because if Michelle Obama had an abortion, and used to fark the guy that delivered her (who also performed abortions) and seemingly didn't have a problem with abortions until she met Barack and he became a politician then suddenly started advocating "no sex before marriage" and "no abortions, even if the mothers life is in jeopardy", we would TOTALLY NEVER hear about it or anything from the right wing nuts.

DO YOU SEE HOW STUPID YOU ARE?

This is why I have you highlighted in gray, so that I can identify your stupid comments. Because all you do all day is log in and comment 200 times a day, and you have never said anything that is not completely retarded.


I am "completely retarded" for thinking demanding Rick Santorum publicly berate his wife for her past beliefs and sexual history is absurd? Really? This is why you have me "highlighted in gray"?

What does this have to do with Michelle Obama?

Holy shiat you're a farking moron.
 
2012-01-18 01:56:02 PM  

Diogenes: thismomentinblackhistory: OMG a single woman had a May/December romance and her political views may have changed over time. With so much Santorum to fling at Santorum this seems kinda cheap.

Also, dude looks like the Most Interesting Abortion Doctor in the World.

[a2.twimg.com image 200x250]
Stay fertile, my friends.


Ultra win.
 
2012-01-18 01:56:06 PM  

RexTalionis: quoinguy: I can't believe the article was written, let alone picked up by FARK.

Turn the table by saying a single Michelle Obama dated an unmarried conservative, like some cousin of the Koch's to pick a random straw, 20+ years ago.

Who cares?

Plenty of people change their views from those they had in their 20s. And she's not the one running for office.

It's from the Daily Mail. They're not a news outfit so much as a glorified gossip rag in tabloid form. If you think the Daily Mail is engaging in any sort of substantive critique of Rick Santorum in a reasoned way, then you are terribly naive. The Daily Mail are scandal sheets. They conduct their business by spreading gossip and raunch. This article is perfectly within its standard operating procedure.

And, as noted before, it's not news, it's Fark.com.


OK, you got me on that one.

I guess I still hold out hope for the day when political races are based on facts and not weird gossipy things.

/On both sides--both parties are horrid in that respect
//Guess I really have to get over being naive.
 
2012-01-18 01:57:47 PM  

bobbette: DO YOU SEE HOW STUPID YOU ARE?This is why I have you highlighted in gray, so that I can identify your stupid comments. Because all you do all day is log in and comment 200 times a day, and you have never said anything that is not completely retarded.

Dear, you're yelling.


She/he is a spaz. Oh, wait, that's spiderpaz/b>. Ahh well, doesn't negate the fact that she/he gave a relatively accurate summation of his posting style. I wonder if he'll insist on trying to use his own, special definition of a word in this thread.
 
2012-01-18 01:58:36 PM  
Oh, bold tag fail. I shall now commit seppuku.
 
2012-01-18 01:59:25 PM  

quoinguy: OK, you got me on that one.


I can appreciate a person who can concede a point on the internet. Thumbs up to you, sir.
 
2012-01-18 01:59:32 PM  
From the article she was 22 and single, he was 63 and divorced, so I wouldn't refer to it as an "affair." Also, people change with time, so I can't get worked up about how she and her former lover were progressives three decades ago, but now she isn't. Many of my views have changed since I was in my early 20's, and it wasn't that long ago. There is plenty to attack Rick Santorum on. He's a vicious hatemonger for starters. This is just petty.
 
2012-01-18 01:59:50 PM  

RexTalionis: If I run for office, I can't think of anything that has happened in my 20s (which is currently still on-going) that could even be brought up as a campaign issue.
/Lived a boring life


I can't remember most of my 20's. There would probably be something.

But at least I didn't go from a free-loving kept woman to a woman married to the country's largest power-mad douche. I just can't envision that much change in my personality, no matter how much I drank.
 
2012-01-18 02:02:39 PM  

skullkrusher: coeyagi: //worked as a women's health educator in Africa, just so you know, in case you plan on making more wild theories / stabs in the dark.

but yet you are suggesting he slut-shame his wife in public for things she did and believed 23-30 years ago?


Why not? Santorum is all about slut-shaming: "Procreative sex is the best only sex." Having sex for fun - something dolphins also do, BTW - even if you're married, is not something Rick Santorum can abide.

Rick should be the one slut-shaming his wife, we shouldn't have to do it for him. Unless there's something politically - rather than spiritually - dangerous about doing that.

Alternatively phrased: If Rick won't publicly denounce his wife's behavior (that he has said he disapproves of from a policy standpoint, if other women do it), how do we know that's a position he truly believes in? And, if he doesn't, 1) why say it? and 2) why make it a part of his platform (or remove it entirely)?

// protip: slut-shaming only works if you think you have something to be ashamed of in the first place
// go ahead - slut-shame me for all the dirty sex I've had enjoyed
 
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