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2012-01-17 08:40:37 PM  
I'm glad I don't have to drive anywhere this week

/Vancouverite with snow-driving retardedness.
 
2012-01-17 08:52:57 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: Ed Finnerty: There's just a few things anyone can learn to make them a safer winter diver:

1. Turn away from the slide ...

2. You can never have enough gas ...

3. Tailgate ...

Good luck and safe driving.

Nice. Very nice. Well put. I will clip this out and tape it to my sun visor, so the tips will be handy during my next snow-driving experience.


Which means:

4. Avoid looking at the road - glare from the ice and / or snow could disable your sight.
 
2012-01-17 09:02:59 PM  
Sweet. I'm going to stand halfway up Queen Anne hill with a six pack and a video camera for the lulz
 
2012-01-17 09:04:25 PM  

oldebayer: ricewater_stool: And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads

People who live in places where they get lots of snow tend to learn how to drive in the stuff. People who live in places where it rarely snows, don't.

I was born in Western Pennsylvania and I know pretty much how to handle the stuff. Here in Southwest New Mexico it snows seldom (though we got a lot this year) and my number one rule about driving in it here is: Don't. Too many people here know jack squat about driving on snow, ice or even wet roads.


Maryland's such a mixed bag. We can drive in any moderate weather, but extremes still wipe us out (like over 8 in of snow or blinding rain or even high temp heat waves). Most of us know the dangers of ice though since thats really all we get in winter. Wintery mixes suck, but the real trick is to watch the license plates. If they aren't from NY / MD /VA /PA (or farther north) you stay the hell away from them.
 
2012-01-17 09:04:51 PM  
Live in North Seattle, work on Pill Hill. Because parking is insanely expensive up there, I take the bus, which has been on the special snow route this week. Instead of going up the hill to the hospitals, the buses dump everyone off at 12th and Jackson, to connect with buses (and drivers) capable of getting up those damnable hills. A few inches of snow yesterday, none today. Probably sunny and 65 tomorrow.


Per an earlier request:

i759.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-17 09:07:40 PM  

Gordian Cipher: zaiustheape: In all fairness, clearly there is ice under the snow. That little bit of snow would not be that slippery.

And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.

I'm from Michigan, and I approve this message.

My favorite part of these Snowmaggeddon announcements in Seattle is the day before, when all the buses are driving around on dry roads with chains on.

/articulated buses with the drive wheels behind the accordion
//they're fun in snow even WITH chains


Yes. I just had to disembark my bus downtown because the snow chain broke. Thankfully it wasn't too cold yet.

Fully intend to use my company's inclement weather policy tomorrow. Snow day, ice day, I just plan on it being a no bus day. Amirite?

/live in Fremont work in kent.

FWIW I was an IL transplant and learned to drive in the snow. Apples and oranges.
 
2012-01-17 09:11:15 PM  

Sybarite: Two Inches Of Snow Turns Seattle Drivers Into Morons

I wonder what 12 inches of snow would do?


I'd much rather drive in 12" of snow than just 2". Much slicker when it's a smaller amount. At least with more snow there's some resistance to keep you from sliding off the road.
 
2012-01-17 09:13:54 PM  
They can't drive when it rains, let alone snows.

People are to conservative when they drive in snow. Slow is not always the answer.
 
2012-01-17 09:20:54 PM  

Earpj: ricewater_stool:
And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.

Going to CO last year, we had to put chains on in the mountains. It was mandatory.


Unless you were driving a commercial vehicle, this is not true. A good idea, as are snow tires, but chains are not mandatory for private vehicles.
 
2012-01-17 09:25:40 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Earpj: ricewater_stool:
And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.

Going to CO last year, we had to put chains on in the mountains. It was mandatory.

Unless you were driving a commercial vehicle, this is not true. A good idea, as are snow tires, but chains are not mandatory for private vehicles.


I'm guessing you are referring to CO, because here in WA chains are often required for all vehicles (except AWD) on the mountain passes in winter. ie: http://wsdot.com/traffic/passes/snoqualmie/default.aspx
 
2012-01-17 09:28:03 PM  

Plush_Cthulhu: thisisyourbrainonFark: Earpj: ricewater_stool:
And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.

Going to CO last year, we had to put chains on in the mountains. It was mandatory.

Unless you were driving a commercial vehicle, this is not true. A good idea, as are snow tires, but chains are not mandatory for private vehicles.

I'm guessing you are referring to CO, because here in WA chains are often required for all vehicles (except AWD) on the mountain passes in winter. ie: http://wsdot.com/traffic/passes/snoqualmie/default.aspx


"Traction tires required" != chains.

/rip through Snoqualmie pass 2x a month
//sometimes in the winter in a Porsche
 
2012-01-17 09:28:20 PM  

Theaetetus: Yeah. The biggest idiot in that video was the guy who zoomed past the other people who were spinning out. What, you think that just because you're in an SUV, you're immune to unseen ice patches or you have magic ice radar?


He was going a bit fast, but there's such a thing as too slow, on straight roads anyway. A certain amount of momentum makes it easier to control the car. There's a point below which driving slower makes it harder to stay in control.
 
2012-01-17 09:28:33 PM  
Is this where I act like a snob because I own a Jeep?

/'10 JK 2-door
//yes, it's a JK, shut up
///might get a '13 with the Pentastar V6
////TEAM JEEP
 
2012-01-17 09:29:54 PM  
last December 23rd, in the AM I was going to go from Albuquerque to San Antonio, Tx. The highways South were closed in the AM. I decided to chance it at 530p. they had just opened the highway from Vaughan to Carlsbad, and the snow was so bad there were front end loaders taking the snow the snowplows had pushed off and putting it farther out. I thought if I made it to Carlsbad it would be OK. Turns out it was the worst. Couldn't even see the ruts in front of me, we saw cars spin out in front of us. Didn't see the lines on the road until well into Texas. Traction control in my 2010 Camry XLE was flashing like a strobe. A normal 12 hour trip took 18. But, I was a safe driver, knew how to drive in ice and snow, and made it without a scratch. My wife (Who flew in a day earlier), even on the way back, couldn't believe I drove through it. my son said he lost count of the vehicles on the side of the road.

There were times I did start to slide a little, but gently controlled it back to a straight line.

My 20 Year-old son thought I had some serious Ballz to make it. In retrospect, I thought I was really stupid for chancing it. But I made it; not like a bunch of others who FAILED. 741 Miles.
 
2012-01-17 09:31:55 PM  
2 days after a snow the roads better damn well be clear of snow and DRY. I don't care if the side of the road is a wasteland or I have to wash by car everyday.
 
2012-01-17 09:33:02 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Unless you were driving a commercial vehicle, this is not true. A good idea, as are snow tires, but chains are not mandatory for private vehicles.


In Washington, chains (or traction cables) can be required for all automobiles when crossing the passes. In one stage, you are exempt from chains if you have 4WD/AWD or studded tires; all other cars and light trucks must chain up. In the second stage, all automobiles must chain up regardless as conditions are so dire.

I don't ever recall the WSDOT requiring chains for the lowland freeways in Western Washington, but they might have required it for US-2, US-97, I-82 or I-90 east of the Cascades.
 
2012-01-17 09:33:36 PM  
I haven't actually read the thread or looked at the article, but I have some impotent rage to vent and damn it, I'm venting it.

Dear people with big trucks with awesome tires: I know, you're proud of your vehicle and its mighty power in even the most challenging of situations. You can drive the speed limit or even go over it when the weather is at its worst. However, I drive a little piece of shiat Hyandai. Whereas you can gracefully glide down that hill and stop on a dime like a champ, If I go 5 mph faster I'm apt to go flying into the intersection at a red light because my little piece of shiat car without anything ALB or pretty much anything that would make it easier to not die cannot win a simple battle with ice or even just snow. I understand your frustration that I'm not breezing down the road going 50, but please stop trying to encourage me to get myself killed.

Thank you.

/cue angry people who still won't understand for some reason
//or don't give a shiat. I'm out!
 
2012-01-17 09:33:56 PM  

Plush_Cthulhu: thisisyourbrainonFark: Earpj: ricewater_stool:
And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.

Going to CO last year, we had to put chains on in the mountains. It was mandatory.

Unless you were driving a commercial vehicle, this is not true. A good idea, as are snow tires, but chains are not mandatory for private vehicles.

I'm guessing you are referring to CO, because here in WA chains are often required for all vehicles (except AWD) on the mountain passes in winter. ie: http://wsdot.com/traffic/passes/snoqualmie/default.aspx


Yeah, CO.

rohar: Plush_Cthulhu: thisisyourbrainonFark: Earpj: ricewater_stool:
And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.

Going to CO last year, we had to put chains on in the mountains. It was mandatory.

Unless you were driving a commercial vehicle, this is not true. A good idea, as are snow tires, but chains are not mandatory for private vehicles.

I'm guessing you are referring to CO, because here in WA chains are often required for all vehicles (except AWD) on the mountain passes in winter. ie: http://wsdot.com/traffic/passes/snoqualmie/default.aspx

"Traction tires required" != chains.

/rip through Snoqualmie pass 2x a month
//sometimes in the winter in a Porsche


on your way to the gym, no doubt.
 
2012-01-17 09:34:54 PM  
So are Mormons worse drivers than the rest of us?
 
2012-01-17 09:35:05 PM  

BGates: They can't drive when it rains,


We native Washingtonians can, and do very well. The transplants (esp. Californians)? Not so much.

As for snow driving, part of me wants to blame it on car design. My nice compact '87 Nova drove like a freakin' dream on snow, ice, you name it. No skids, no slides. In the 15 years I owned it, only got stuck once, and that was while pulling away from a curb on the ice-covered north face of Queen Anne hill one winter. My friends rocked it a few times, then I could take off.

My current car is one of the newer super-sized Camrys, and while it's a nicer car, it handles like shiat in the snow. Slides and skids everywhere, absolutely nerve-wracking. If I need to travel less than a mile, screw it, I'll walk.
 
2012-01-17 09:36:18 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: on your way to the gym, no doubt.


Hardly, it's an '83, I bought it for $500. Doesn't change the law. Traction tires != chains. RWD sports car with studs is just fine.
 
2012-01-17 09:39:47 PM  

MrSteve007: Aupey: I live around the Spanaway/Puyallup area.

Sumner, represent!


Working in Sumner, live in Lakehood.

This is creepy...
 
2012-01-17 09:41:47 PM  
farm6.staticflickr.com

Tires are so overrated.
 
2012-01-17 09:46:13 PM  
Born in the snow belt, and have lived in the northeast and parts of Canada most of my life. right now, I'd normally have a foot of snow in the yard, but the weird winter around here has me firing up the generator because it's 52F and I've got 60MPH winds kicking the power on and off.

But truly, I love this thread.
 
2012-01-17 09:50:38 PM  
Know how I drive in snow?

I DON'T. Working from home FTW.

/Issaquah
 
2012-01-17 09:51:49 PM  

ShawnDoc: Reminds of when I was 16. Because of the snow the bus couldn't make it up our road, so I had to take my younger sister to where the bus would stop. I'm in a AWD Subaru with snow tires, drove there with no problem, including navigating the hills in-between. However, the road where I had to drop her off had a slight slope to it. I was fine when driving, but as soon as I came to a stop my car slid sideways off the road and into the ditch.

/CSB


This happened to me a few weeks ago... except I *was* dumb for taking my non-4-wheel-drive truck with no weight in the back out in the first place. Usually when it snows here we get 1" of ice and then 4' of snow on top. But when I go in the ditch we have less than 1". In my defense, they hadn't plowed at all (I would have taken a completely different route if i had realized this) and traffic was blocked in all directions. And even though we hardly had any snow and no ice, there were so many cars and school buses in ditches that it took 4 hours for a tow truck to be available (despite the fact that my truck was on 3 wheels and blocking a lane of traffic).

So now I can't complain about other people not being able to drive anymore :(
 
2012-01-17 09:55:37 PM  

James!: The biggest problem is they use sand instead of salt.


All main roads get chemical de-icer. We can afford it since it only snows like a day and a half a year, frequently on weekends. My side street is dry and wide open.

/like your mom
 
2012-01-17 09:59:51 PM  
Ex-Texan
last December 23rd, in the AM I was going to go from Albuquerque to San Antonio, Tx. The highways South were closed in the AM. I decided to chance it at 530p. they had just opened the highway from Vaughan to Carlsbad, and the snow was so bad there were front end loaders taking the snow the snowplows had pushed off and putting it farther out. I thought if I made it to Carlsbad it would be OK. Turns out it was the worst. Couldn't even see the ruts in front of me, we saw cars spin out in front of us. Didn't see the lines on the road until well into Texas. Traction control in my 2010 Camry XLE was flashing like a strobe. A normal 12 hour trip took 18. But, I was a safe driver, knew how to drive in ice and snow, and made it without a scratch. My wife (Who flew in a day earlier), even on the way back, couldn't believe I drove through it. my son said he lost count of the vehicles on the side of the road.

There were times I did start to slide a little, but gently controlled it back to a straight line.

My 20 Year-old son thought I had some serious Ballz to make it. In retrospect, I thought I was really stupid for chancing it. But I made it; not like a bunch of others who FAILED. 741 Miles.


Your story don't quite ring true: 285 was closed,there are no ruts in the road & you somehow managed to completely miss a famous NM town.And you mispelled "Vaughn".
 
2012-01-17 10:00:26 PM  

Dinodork: There's always this one from here in Colorado Springs from last year. (new window)


My favorite part was the douche in the diesel pickup about 6 minutes in. He sees several dozen crashed cars at crazy angles on both sides of the road, people milling around, and decides, "Pussies! That's why I've got FOUR WHEEL DRIIIIIIIIIVE!" and rolls up the hill anyway.

I mean, he almost made it.
 
2012-01-17 10:01:26 PM  
Seattle just needs more Minneapolis salt.
 
2012-01-17 10:03:42 PM  

James!: The biggest problem is they use sand instead of salt.


How is that a problem?
 
2012-01-17 10:04:30 PM  

GleeUnit: As a Seattle transplant from upstate NY, I can whole-heartedly say that I love "lets clown on Seattlites" threads when it comes to winter weather. Granted, the particular features of our area can definitely make driving the roads very hazardous when the roads get icy, which they invariably do every time we get decent snow. However, it's the really the buildup to the storm that I find most entertaining.

We get maybe one or two good snows a year, and it sticks around for a only a few days depending on how much shows up for the initial dump. The funny part is that people seem to think that snow=natural disaster. I went to Safeway today just north of downtown to pick up some sandwich stuff, and the place was an absolute zoo with people "stocking up." Flats of bottled water, multiple loafs of bread, carts of enough food in general to feed half a neighborhood all winter, etc.

Supposedly "The Storm" (which was supposed to come yesterday afternoon, then last night, and then this morning, and then this afternoon) is finally arriving tonight (damn border crossings...). Some local stations have predicted the worst storm since '85. I dunno. Roads are nearly bone dry out my window. But if you don't hear from me in a few days, SNOWMAGEDDON 2012 got me.

/I have shamelessly stayed and worked from home despite normal weather conditions so far this week, however. You know, just in case.


They're not stocking up on food and water for the snow, buddy.

They're stocking up for the week long power outages that can frequently follow these storms.

The weight of the snow and ice on the trees can cause them to topple in conditions like that (not counting drivers who crash into the power poles). Added to that you have the forecasted winds and rain that will follow this storm in the next couple days. The saturated ground will also mean trees will be more likely to fall. And then you'll have to look at the potential for flooding which will depend on how warm the following storms are.

/supposedly the grid was improved after the 2006 storms.
//we'll see.
///power flickered earlier today
 
2012-01-17 10:05:51 PM  

cuzsis: GleeUnit: As a Seattle transplant from upstate NY, I can whole-heartedly say that I love "lets clown on Seattlites" threads when it comes to winter weather. Granted, the particular features of our area can definitely make driving the roads very hazardous when the roads get icy, which they invariably do every time we get decent snow. However, it's the really the buildup to the storm that I find most entertaining.

We get maybe one or two good snows a year, and it sticks around for a only a few days depending on how much shows up for the initial dump. The funny part is that people seem to think that snow=natural disaster. I went to Safeway today just north of downtown to pick up some sandwich stuff, and the place was an absolute zoo with people "stocking up." Flats of bottled water, multiple loafs of bread, carts of enough food in general to feed half a neighborhood all winter, etc.

Supposedly "The Storm" (which was supposed to come yesterday afternoon, then last night, and then this morning, and then this afternoon) is finally arriving tonight (damn border crossings...). Some local stations have predicted the worst storm since '85. I dunno. Roads are nearly bone dry out my window. But if you don't hear from me in a few days, SNOWMAGEDDON 2012 got me.

/I have shamelessly stayed and worked from home despite normal weather conditions so far this week, however. You know, just in case.

They're not stocking up on food and water for the snow, buddy.

They're stocking up for the week long power outages that can frequently follow these storms.

The weight of the snow and ice on the trees can cause them to topple in conditions like that (not counting drivers who crash into the power poles). Added to that you have the forecasted winds and rain that will follow this storm in the next couple days. The saturated ground will also mean trees will be more likely to fall. And then you'll have to look at the potential for flooding which will depend on how warm the fol ...


The "buddy" comment is meant to be wry and amused, not annoyed. Sorry, gah. :P
 
2012-01-17 10:06:25 PM  
It's a mini, not a corolla sliding in the snow. That being said, the person behind the wheel couldn't handle their golf cart. I live in Colorado and the other day it took me 2 hours to get to work. Usually takes about 45 minutes. I hated every minute of it and yes, I am one of the annoying farkettes who keeps up their car (95 Civic, new brakes front and rear, new tires, new wiper blades and extensive engine work performed in November because I love my car oh so much) And to make it even worse, I have lived here my entire life-except for a brief stint out of state about 14 years ago to visit relatives. Still, that all being said, I'd rather have stupid farkers take their time driving 5 MPH even when the conditions say about 25-35 Hwy, than be hit by some stupid douchebag from California or Texas or by a cowardly, weenie native that refuses to keep his/her car up for foul weather.

/lived in AK and learned real good snow driving techniques, but blech
//waiting for spring
///and why yes, you may pass me on the highway, you are far more important than I am, it's ok :)
 
2012-01-17 10:07:55 PM  

Shadow Blasko: PullItOut: cuzsis: PullItOut: I grew up in Seattle. There was a snowstorm when I was about 17; my dad took the opportunity to take me out car skating. We skidded his Honda all over a big empty lot, and by the end of the day a) I'd had a huge amount of fun, and b) I knew how to drive in the snow.

Not just a CSB, since it has a point: if there's something you can learn to do in less than a day, where ignorance puts people's lives in danger, and you don't know how to do it yet...don't.

Shadow Blasko: I know how to drive my car properly in the snow.

Don't!

/RX8. Not a snowmobile. I miss my Acura sometimes.

A perfect example of someone who knows how to drive in the snow. If your car can't do it, don't. I used to own an RX/7, and that thing was a nightmare in icy conditions. We used to take my wife's Corolla whenever it snowed...studded tires on that thing and it could go anywhere.

Unfortunately that is illegal now. So unless you've got a large parking lot where not many people pass by you're looking a pretty nice ticket. The frustrating part is that's a great way to learn to drive on snow!

/my dad used to do that too.
//I've managed to sneak one or two in, but can't risk it anymore with my current profession.

It's illegal to do that in an empty lot? I certainly hope that's not true where I live now, because my daughter's a skier and closing in on driving age. I was looking forward to car skating with her.

I can think of a few spots up in the mountains (Hood for me, now, since I live in Portland) where there are big parking lots you can't see from the street. Maybe we'll use one of those.

I used a mall parking lot where one of the anchor stores had moved out. Cops came and asked what was up, I told them I had just bought the car and I was trying to determine how it handles in the snow.

They said "Don't hit anything, and good on ya for taking the time to figure it out!"

/Technically illegal here as well, but unless you are obviously just doing wild do ...


Hope so.

I've seen signs posted against it where I've lived, which rather discouraged me from the attempt.
 
2012-01-17 10:08:07 PM  

Icey_M: Seattle just needs more Minneapolis salt.


So all their vehicles can rust away?
 
2012-01-17 10:13:16 PM  
We had Tornadoes today.... Tornadoes; In January.

/Send some of that snow our way, please.
 
2012-01-17 10:14:58 PM  
No cool stories, but I grew up in the snow, and when my dad taught me to drive in the snow, he told me to ignore the fact that I have a brake pedal, and when it's really slick, drive such that I never needed to use it. (Down-shifting, don't drive that fast anyway, let off on gas early to slow down, etc.) No cool stories, but no crashes, either.
 
2012-01-17 10:15:46 PM  

BGates: Icey_M: Seattle just needs more Minneapolis salt.

So all their vehicles can rust away?


images.jambase.com

It never sleeps.
 
2012-01-17 10:16:22 PM  

Whatthefark: Long ago when I lived in Spokane, WA I owned a 1977 Suburban with full time four wheel drive and studded tires all around. That thing was a billy goat in the snow.
I made a lot of Christmas cash pulling SUVs out of snow banks and ditches. "Oh, your tow truck is busy and won't be here for two hours? Twenty bucks and I'll get you out!" I never had anyone say no.



Now that's bootstrapping, baby!
 
2012-01-17 10:20:19 PM  

Aupey: I live around the Spanaway/Puyallup area.
As far as I'm concerned, I'm just not going to drive.

Got into an accident two years ago from an inch of snow on the road way. Turning going around 10 mph and the guy I hit had the audacity to say "You were speeding, weren't you? I saw you speeding." The speed limit was 35 and I'll admit I'm scared of driving in snow.


What audacity?

I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but the posted speed limit is not an absolute and is relative to the road conditions and your abilities and those of your vehicle.

If your speed in those conditions is what caused the accident, you absolutely were speeding regardless of the posted limit.
 
2012-01-17 10:24:27 PM  

DougTaupe: We had Tornadoes today.... Tornadoes; In January.

/Send some of that snow our way, please.


So did we :( Loudest thunder I have ever heard in January. Yesterday we set a record high temperature, last year we set a record snow fall.
 
2012-01-17 10:28:59 PM  

rohar: Plush_Cthulhu: thisisyourbrainonFark: Earpj: ricewater_stool:
And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.

Going to CO last year, we had to put chains on in the mountains. It was mandatory.

Unless you were driving a commercial vehicle, this is not true. A good idea, as are snow tires, but chains are not mandatory for private vehicles.

I'm guessing you are referring to CO, because here in WA chains are often required for all vehicles (except AWD) on the mountain passes in winter. ie: http://wsdot.com/traffic/passes/snoqualmie/default.aspx

"Traction tires required" != chains.

/rip through Snoqualmie pass 2x a month
//sometimes in the winter in a Porsche


Copied directly from the link Our Dark Lord provided and that you ignored:

Restrictions EastBound:
Chains required on all vehicles except all wheel drive, Oversize Vehicles Prohibited.

Restrictions WestBound:
Chains required on all vehicles except all wheel drive, Oversize Vehicles Prohibited.

Conditions:
Compact snow and ice on the roadway. Chains are required on all vehicles except all wheel drive, oversize vehicles are be prohibited.


/The Porcupine & The Porsche
 
2012-01-17 10:29:20 PM  

PsychoLaurie: My folks live in Denver. My dad just went to Discount Tires to get two new tires on the front. Told them to move the current front tires to the rear, throw the rear tires out. As a front wheel drive car, it's safer having newer tires on the front in snow/ice. But Discount Tires refused. Said their new policy is to replace the oldest tires, regardless of front/rear. My dad told them, "It's my car, my choice." As a customer of Discount Tires for >20 years, buying tires for six cars, you'd think they'd get it. But no. They said corporate policy changed. My dad left, went & found a different tire store that would put the new tires on in front.

Such B.S. I hate driving in ice/snow. That's why I moved to Hawai'i.


That's a myth. The rear tires have more to do with handling than the front, regardless of the vehicle's drivetrain. I used to work in a fairly large national chain garage that mainly sold tires, and the first thing they taught anyone was that fact. Rear wheel drive? Tires go on the rear. Front wheel drive? Tires go on the rear. Four wheel drive? Tires go on the rear. Obviously, the ones with the most tread depth are rotated to the front, but yeah, your dad is a moran. It is their company policy because they could be held liable if they were to install the tires on the front and your father crashed his car. He could go and sue the people and say that they installed them on the front and not the rear like they should have and win big ass cash money $$$.

Dunlop - new tires should go on the rear axle (new window)
 
2012-01-17 10:30:31 PM  

Bob_Sled: theorellior: Theaetetus: What, you think that just because you're in an SUV, you're immune to unseen ice patches or you have magic ice radar?

Yes, yes they do. Ginormous 4WD trucks are no stranger to ditches, embankments and guardrails when it snows in a high-dumbass area.

When I lived in Vancouver, BC 4 out of 5 vehicles in the ditch were 4WD.


This is because Toyota 4x4=GodMode according to BC drivers.

Unfortunately, I've driven past many of them, stuck sideways on a hill, and I'd just plod on past them in my VW Rabbit/Jetta/pAssHat.
 
2012-01-17 10:32:01 PM  
 
2012-01-17 10:32:26 PM  

Herbie555: Is this the thread where us Californians are supposed to ask: "What's snow?"


No snow in my part of California, but drivers here are probably more familiar with chains than they are in most of the Midwest and East. At least, the skiers are from the trip to/from Tahoe.

CHP used to ticket drivers on 80 for putting chains on the front wheels of FWD cars. Apparently, the law said chains had to go on the rear no matter what.
 
2012-01-17 10:35:58 PM  
Ahhh Seattle in a snow "storm" . It's absolute chaos there. Yes people do drive like morons but there are some super steep hills in and around the city. I remember seeing a hill down by Southcenter mall. I wanna say 17% grade??? I really hope nobody tried driving up or down it.
Portland can be even worse just because there are more Asian drivers and stuff seems to freeze quickly. 2" of snow will shut both cities down completely.
 
2012-01-17 10:39:30 PM  

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: rohar: Plush_Cthulhu: thisisyourbrainonFark: Earpj: ricewater_stool:
And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.

Going to CO last year, we had to put chains on in the mountains. It was mandatory.

Unless you were driving a commercial vehicle, this is not true. A good idea, as are snow tires, but chains are not mandatory for private vehicles.

I'm guessing you are referring to CO, because here in WA chains are often required for all vehicles (except AWD) on the mountain passes in winter. ie: http://wsdot.com/traffic/passes/snoqualmie/default.aspx

"Traction tires required" != chains.

/rip through Snoqualmie pass 2x a month
//sometimes in the winter in a Porsche

Copied directly from the link Our Dark Lord provided and that you ignored:

Restrictions EastBound:
Chains required on all vehicles except all wheel drive, Oversize Vehicles Prohibited.

Restrictions WestBound:
Chains required on all vehicles except all wheel drive, Oversize Vehicles Prohibited.

Conditions:
Compact snow and ice on the roadway. Chains are required on all vehicles except all wheel drive, oversize vehicles are be prohibited.

/The Porcupine & The Porsche


Funny, I've never seen that in the past 5 years I've been running the pass. So I went to WSDOT to see the conditions at Snoqualmie right now:


RESTRICTIONS EASTBOUND:
Traction Tires Required, Chains required on Vehicles over 10,000 gross vehicle weight. Oversize Vehicles Prohibited.

RESTRICTIONS WESTBOUND:
Traction Tires Required, Chains required on Vehicles over 10,000 gross vehicle weight. Oversize Vehicles Prohibited.


If it does happen, it happens so shortly you can't even see it at internet time.
 
2012-01-17 10:39:57 PM  

brianbankerus: All main roads get chemical de-icer. We can afford it since it only snows like a day and a half a year, frequently on weekends. My side street is dry and wide open.
/like your mom


Chemical de-icer ate my radiator.

And then raped it.
 
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