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2012-01-17 03:23:41 PM  
Four wheel drive?
 
2012-01-17 03:27:17 PM  

Snarfangel: Four wheel drive?


Front-wheel-drive.. The car's a Corolla of some flavor, it would appear.
 
2012-01-17 03:32:13 PM  
Does it have a spoiler too?
 
2012-01-17 03:32:20 PM  
Two Inches Of Snow Turns Seattle Drivers Into Morons

I wonder what 12 inches of snow would do?
 
2012-01-17 03:35:11 PM  
In all fairness, clearly there is ice under the snow. That little bit of snow would not be that slippery.

And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.
 
2012-01-17 03:39:27 PM  

markie_farkie: Front-wheel-drive..


Threadjack: Did you ever live in Seattle and if so do we know each other?
 
2012-01-17 03:41:10 PM  

iamrex: Threadjack: Did you ever live in Seattle and if so do we know each other?


No on both counts, unfortunately!
 
2012-01-17 03:41:29 PM  
Meh, I know how to drive in snow (lived in Chicagoland)... and I've hit ice patches like that. Nothing you can do really.

"Idiots driving in snow" would be more of people not knowing how to correct a car sliding too fast into a turn, etc.
 
2012-01-17 03:41:53 PM  

ricewater_stool:
And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.


Going to CO last year, we had to put chains on in the mountains. It was mandatory.
 
2012-01-17 03:49:48 PM  

ricewater_stool: And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads


People who live in places where they get lots of snow tend to learn how to drive in the stuff. People who live in places where it rarely snows, don't.

I was born in Western Pennsylvania and I know pretty much how to handle the stuff. Here in Southwest New Mexico it snows seldom (though we got a lot this year) and my number one rule about driving in it here is: Don't. Too many people here know jack squat about driving on snow, ice or even wet roads.
 
2012-01-17 03:51:30 PM  
The biggest problem is they use sand instead of salt.
 
2012-01-17 03:52:51 PM  

downstairs: Meh, I know how to drive in snow (lived in Chicagoland)... and I've hit ice patches like that. Nothing you can do really.

"Idiots driving in snow" would be more of people not knowing how to correct a car sliding too fast into a turn, etc.


Yeah. The biggest idiot in that video was the guy who zoomed past the other people who were spinning out. What, you think that just because you're in an SUV, you're immune to unseen ice patches or you have magic ice radar?
 
2012-01-17 03:59:04 PM  

Sybarite: Two Inches Of Snow Turns Seattle Drivers Into Morons

I wonder what 12 inches of snow would do?


If you believe the forecasts, we are apparently about to find out.
 
2012-01-17 04:01:43 PM  
Reminds of when I was 16. Because of the snow the bus couldn't make it up our road, so I had to take my younger sister to where the bus would stop. I'm in a AWD Subaru with snow tires, drove there with no problem, including navigating the hills in-between. However, the road where I had to drop her off had a slight slope to it. I was fine when driving, but as soon as I came to a stop my car slid sideways off the road and into the ditch.

/CSB
 
2012-01-17 04:05:11 PM  

James!: The biggest problem is they use sand instead of salt.


In high snow areas, there is actually a growing problem with cropland being turned useless by high concentrations of salt.
 
2012-01-17 04:05:11 PM  

markie_farkie: No on both counts, unfortunately!


It's actually a good thing. That dude totally f*cked me over.
 
2012-01-17 04:12:41 PM  

GAT_00: James!: The biggest problem is they use sand instead of salt.

In high snow areas, there is actually a growing problem with cropland being turned useless by high concentrations of salt.


In west coast cities, there is actually a growing problem of people crashing their damn cars because of low concentrations of salt.
 
2012-01-17 04:16:59 PM  

Theaetetus: downstairs: Meh, I know how to drive in snow (lived in Chicagoland)... and I've hit ice patches like that. Nothing you can do really.

"Idiots driving in snow" would be more of people not knowing how to correct a car sliding too fast into a turn, etc.

Yeah. The biggest idiot in that video was the guy who zoomed past the other people who were spinning out. What, you think that just because you're in an SUV, you're immune to unseen ice patches or you have magic ice radar?


No, it's called "don't stop when going up a hill cause you might not be able to get going again."
 
2012-01-17 04:19:25 PM  

James!: GAT_00: James!: The biggest problem is they use sand instead of salt.

In high snow areas, there is actually a growing problem with cropland being turned useless by high concentrations of salt.

In west coast cities, there is actually a growing problem of people crashing their damn cars because of low concentrations of salt.


First thought, why are people driving if their blood electrolytes are that low?

Second thought, contrary to what advertisers might say, Brawndo is not what plants crave.
 
2012-01-17 04:28:44 PM  

James!: GAT_00: James!: The biggest problem is they use sand instead of salt.

In high snow areas, there is actually a growing problem with cropland being turned useless by high concentrations of salt.

In west coast cities, there is actually a growing problem of people crashing their damn cars because of low concentrations of salt.


So what? Learn to drive. I've driven on stuff as bad as that with a worse car and no salt.
 
2012-01-17 04:28:52 PM  

Snarfangel: Four wheel drive?


I think Subby meant Wrong Wheel Drive.
 
2012-01-17 04:30:26 PM  

James!: GAT_00: James!: The biggest problem is they use sand instead of salt.

In high snow areas, there is actually a growing problem with cropland being turned useless by high concentrations of salt.

In west coast cities, there is actually a growing problem of people crashing their damn cars because of low concentrations of salt.


They are using salt in Seattle after getting spanked so hard for their inept response a few years ago.

I love it when it snows here, it is hilarious.

That said, one thing to keep in mind before laughing to hard is that we have actual fu*king topography here, unlike most of the midwest.

Get your Minneapolis ass out here and see how you fare on Counterbalance hill, hyenas.

/grew up in snow in the mountains.
 
2012-01-17 04:31:14 PM  
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2012-01-17 04:36:59 PM  

GAT_00: James!: GAT_00: James!: The biggest problem is they use sand instead of salt.

In high snow areas, there is actually a growing problem with cropland being turned useless by high concentrations of salt.

In west coast cities, there is actually a growing problem of people crashing their damn cars because of low concentrations of salt.

So what? Learn to drive. I've driven on stuff as bad as that with a worse car and no salt.


If only more cities took up your "so what, learn to drive" plan. They wouldn't need to plow either. And they could adopt a "so what, learn to not die plan" to deal with the inevitable accidents.
 
2012-01-17 04:38:40 PM  

Calmamity: James!: GAT_00: James!: The biggest problem is they use sand instead of salt.

In high snow areas, there is actually a growing problem with cropland being turned useless by high concentrations of salt.

In west coast cities, there is actually a growing problem of people crashing their damn cars because of low concentrations of salt.

They are using salt in Seattle after getting spanked so hard for their inept response a few years ago.

I love it when it snows here, it is hilarious.

That said, one thing to keep in mind before laughing to hard is that we have actual fu*king topography here, unlike most of the midwest.

Get your Minneapolis ass out here and see how you fare on Counterbalance hill, hyenas.

/grew up in snow in the mountains.


People in Washington drop ten miles per hour when approaching a curve in the highway. They should encourage mass transit.
 
2012-01-17 04:53:09 PM  

James!: GAT_00: James!: GAT_00: James!: The biggest problem is they use sand instead of salt.

In high snow areas, there is actually a growing problem with cropland being turned useless by high concentrations of salt.

In west coast cities, there is actually a growing problem of people crashing their damn cars because of low concentrations of salt.

So what? Learn to drive. I've driven on stuff as bad as that with a worse car and no salt.

If only more cities took up your "so what, learn to drive" plan. They wouldn't need to plow either. And they could adopt a "so what, learn to not die plan" to deal with the inevitable accidents.


Intelligent highway funding that included things like teaching how to drive in bad weather might be a better use of money when people clearly don't know how to drive in snow, which might mean that just sanding the roads is enough. Clearly from that video and some of the other ones taken from the same place show it is possible to drive fine in those conditions.
 
2012-01-17 04:57:10 PM  
Ha ha! I live in a place where the weather totally blows so I know how to drive in snow! Suck it!
 
2012-01-17 05:04:23 PM  

GAT_00: James!: GAT_00: James!: GAT_00: James!: The biggest problem is they use sand instead of salt.

In high snow areas, there is actually a growing problem with cropland being turned useless by high concentrations of salt.

In west coast cities, there is actually a growing problem of people crashing their damn cars because of low concentrations of salt.

So what? Learn to drive. I've driven on stuff as bad as that with a worse car and no salt.

If only more cities took up your "so what, learn to drive" plan. They wouldn't need to plow either. And they could adopt a "so what, learn to not die plan" to deal with the inevitable accidents.

Intelligent highway funding that included things like teaching how to drive in bad weather might be a better use of money when people clearly don't know how to drive in snow, which might mean that just sanding the roads is enough. Clearly from that video and some of the other ones taken from the same place show it is possible to drive fine in those conditions.


You think a program to properly educate every driver would be cheaper than putting salt out? We can't even count on people to not drive hammered and you expect them to remember how to turn into a skid?

Let not even get into the hell mandatory drivers re-education for everyone would cause.
 
2012-01-17 05:12:37 PM  

James!: You think a program to properly educate every driver would be cheaper than putting salt out?


Cheaper, probably not. Salt is the best de-icer in ability and value. It's also fairly damaging.
 
2012-01-17 05:17:38 PM  

GAT_00: James!: You think a program to properly educate every driver would be cheaper than putting salt out?

Cheaper, probably not. Salt is the best de-icer in ability and value. It's also fairly damaging.


More or less damaging than chains or say a car slamming into an embankment?
 
2012-01-17 05:30:55 PM  

Snarfangel: Four wheel drive?


Forward Wheel Drive car.

With newer cars you have the option of one that moves forward and one that moves backwards (BWD). As any driver worth their salt knows, Backwards Wheel Drive cars are necessary for safe winter driving.
 
2012-01-17 05:54:09 PM  
I know how to drive my car properly in the snow.

Don't!

/RX8. Not a snowmobile. I miss my Acura sometimes.
 
2012-01-17 05:56:15 PM  

ricewater_stool: In all fairness, clearly there is ice under the snow. That little bit of snow would not be that slippery.

And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.


Ok, I live in Flint. How could chains possibly make the roads worse?
 
2012-01-17 05:56:53 PM  

Theaetetus: What, you think that just because you're in an SUV, you're immune to unseen ice patches or you have magic ice radar?


Yes, yes they do. Ginormous 4WD trucks are no stranger to ditches, embankments and guardrails when it snows in a high-dumbass area.
 
2012-01-17 05:57:28 PM  
That was really disappointing. Car stops somewhere with no traction, can't start. Tries to accelerate as gently as possible, wheels still spin.

I wanted to see some jagoff do 360s.
 
2012-01-17 05:57:41 PM  

James!: GAT_00: James!: You think a program to properly educate every driver would be cheaper than putting salt out?

Cheaper, probably not. Salt is the best de-icer in ability and value. It's also fairly damaging.

More or less damaging than chains or say a car slamming into an embankment?


More damaging to cars, crops, and waterways, less damaging to roadways.
 
2012-01-17 05:59:59 PM  
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2012-01-17 06:01:53 PM  
In all fairness, clearly there is ice under the snow. That little bit of snow would not be that slippery.

And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.

I'm from Michigan, and I approve this message.
 
2012-01-17 06:02:10 PM  

Theaetetus: downstairs: Meh, I know how to drive in snow (lived in Chicagoland)... and I've hit ice patches like that. Nothing you can do really.

"Idiots driving in snow" would be more of people not knowing how to correct a car sliding too fast into a turn, etc.

Yeah. The biggest idiot in that video was the guy who zoomed past the other people who were spinning out. What, you think that just because you're in an SUV, you're immune to unseen ice patches or you have magic ice radar?


STFU, noob
 
2012-01-17 06:03:30 PM  
I grew up in Seattle. There was a snowstorm when I was about 17; my dad took the opportunity to take me out car skating. We skidded his Honda all over a big empty lot, and by the end of the day a) I'd had a huge amount of fun, and b) I knew how to drive in the snow.

Not just a CSB, since it has a point: if there's something you can learn to do in less than a day, where ignorance puts people's lives in danger, and you don't know how to do it yet...don't.

Shadow Blasko: I know how to drive my car properly in the snow.

Don't!

/RX8. Not a snowmobile. I miss my Acura sometimes.


A perfect example of someone who knows how to drive in the snow. If your car can't do it, don't. I used to own an RX/7, and that thing was a nightmare in icy conditions. We used to take my wife's Corolla whenever it snowed...studded tires on that thing and it could go anywhere.
 
2012-01-17 06:03:43 PM  
Is this the thread where us Californians are supposed to ask: "What's snow?"

Seriously, it's 65 and Sunny here in San Diego.

/Ha ha
 
2012-01-17 06:04:07 PM  
Long ago when I lived in Spokane, WA I owned a 1977 Suburban with full time four wheel drive and studded tires all around. That thing was a billy goat in the snow.
I made a lot of Christmas cash pulling SUVs out of snow banks and ditches. "Oh, your tow truck is busy and won't be here for two hours? Twenty bucks and I'll get you out!" I never had anyone say no.
 
2012-01-17 06:04:35 PM  

oldebayer: ricewater_stool: And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads

People who live in places where they get lots of snow tend to learn how to drive in the stuff. People who live in places where it rarely snows, don't.

I was born in Western Pennsylvania and I know pretty much how to handle the stuff. Here in Southwest New Mexico it snows seldom (though we got a lot this year) and my number one rule about driving in it here is: Don't. Too many people here know jack squat about driving on snow, ice or even wet roads.


You guys have been getting pasted this year. SW and SE are having a time of it. 11 inches in Hobbs? WTH?? Hasn't been bad at all here in ABQ other than some low colds.
 
2012-01-17 06:04:41 PM  
The reason snow in Seattle sucks so much is because it is usually wet snow and the area is covered in hills. The stuff just compacts into ice and you end up with a bobsled course down Pike St.

It doesn't help that many people in the Seattle area are California transplants who have little to zero experience driving in the snow. It also doesn't help that many transportation departments are run by idiots - are you going to de-ice the roads or lay sand on them? Pick one. And their de-icing agent sucks because it has to be environmentally friendly because of endangered salmon in the nearby rivers.


/driving in the snow in eastern Washington is easy in comparison
 
2012-01-17 06:04:57 PM  
I thought people in Seattle were morons all year round?
 
2012-01-17 06:05:38 PM  
It has been snowing in Portland for three days now. No accumulation, though. I'm still sick of it.
 
2012-01-17 06:06:24 PM  

Whatthefark: Long ago when I lived in Spokane, WA I owned a 1977 Suburban with full time four wheel drive and studded tires all around. That thing was a billy goat in the snow.
I made a lot of Christmas cash pulling SUVs out of snow banks and ditches. "Oh, your tow truck is busy and won't be here for two hours? Twenty bucks and I'll get you out!" I never had anyone say no.


That's a farking steal for an immediate tow. Anyone that said no to that would have been an idiot.
 
2012-01-17 06:06:45 PM  

moops: It has been snowing in Portland for three days now. No accumulation, though. I'm still sick of it.


No accumulation is the only reason I'm sick of it. If it's gonna snow, let's have some actual freakin' snow. I just get bored of the weather dicking us around like this.
 
2012-01-17 06:07:26 PM  

zaiustheape: In all fairness, clearly there is ice under the snow. That little bit of snow would not be that slippery.

And who the hell uses chains? We get a shiatload of snow here in Michigan and chains are illegal because they destroy the roads.

I'm from Michigan, and I approve this message.


My favorite part of these Snowmaggeddon announcements in Seattle is the day before, when all the buses are driving around on dry roads with chains on.

/articulated buses with the drive wheels behind the accordion
//they're fun in snow even WITH chains
 
2012-01-17 06:08:19 PM  

markie_farkie: Snarfangel: Four wheel drive?

Front-wheel-drive.. The car's a Corolla of some flavor, it would appear.


If you try to buy two tires for a front-wheel drive car, the salesman will insist the tires should go on the back because you need the traction more there for stability. They will also show you a video to prove it (it proves that you need some traction on the rear, but not that you need more on the rear than on the front). Maybe this moron bought tires recently.
 
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