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2012-01-17 02:24:42 PM
Man, that's almost painful to watch. Baxter inflicts the mortal wound by pointing out the Dems in 2008, and then, the coup de grace--it was sponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus? I almost felt sorry for the guy...Almost.
 
2012-01-17 02:48:41 PM
www.mtmshow.com
 
2012-01-17 02:51:04 PM
This thread smells like boiled cabbage.
 
2012-01-17 03:00:18 PM
Harpootlian is an enormous gas bag.
 
2012-01-17 03:01:07 PM
You mean stupidity is bipartisan? WHO KNEW??
 
2012-01-17 03:04:51 PM
Doh! That was uncomfortable,
 
2012-01-17 03:16:15 PM
Who says that didn't offend him too?
 
2012-01-17 03:18:15 PM
Did any of the Democratic candidates make fun of the black moderator on that day, like Newt did?
 
2012-01-17 03:25:34 PM
Wait, a Breitbart link that's actually, y'know, accurate?

/Of course I didn't click on it.
 
2012-01-17 03:25:40 PM
Ted Baxter interviews SC Dem Chairman, who's offended that GOP chose MLK day for their debate, dies on live TV after Baxter points out that Dems did the same thing--way back in 2008

:36
Bill O'Reilly: "Are you offended?"
Harpootlian: "No, I'm not offended."

1:54
Bill O'Reilly: "Are you offended?"
Harpootlian: "No, I'm not offended."

Bad Subby.

/Ted Baxter?
 
2012-01-17 03:25:49 PM
Did the Democrats use coded race-baiting language to make Southern white audiences cheer anti-minority policies, too? Or does it make more sense for Democrats to have a debate on MLK day because they tend to support civil rights for all?
 
2012-01-17 03:26:48 PM
Who farking cares?
 
2012-01-17 03:27:11 PM
Of all the things to be offended about, the date should be the least of our concerns.

I mean, Mitt's a freakin weather vane, and Newt's a sociopath; two vastly more important issues IMHO.
 
2012-01-17 03:27:32 PM
Did the Democratic debate feature serious presidential candidates who...

1. Opposed the creation of Martin Luther King day?
2. Made fun of the debate's lone black moderator?
3. Entered the debate with observers wondering how they would be able to win over the state's racists?
4. Sought nomination to what has historically been the country's anti-minority party, and has made halting, if any, efforts to break that sad legacy?
 
2012-01-17 03:27:48 PM
lacrossestar83: Wait, a Breitbart link that's actually, y'know, accurate?

/Of course I didn't click on it.


Nope. Listening to the whole interview, it's like Bill O had a pre-written script where he had already filled in the answers to his questions - his entire argument required that Harpootlian be offended by the mere scheduling of the debate on that day, rather than any other issues... And when Harpootlian wasn't offended, and was trying to talk about the other issues, Bill O had to keep returning to his script:
"Are you offended?" "No."
"But, really, aren't you offended?" "No."
"Well, since you're so offended, aren't you a hypocrite?" "STFU."
 
2012-01-17 03:30:06 PM
DeaH: Did the Democrats use coded race-baiting language to make Southern white audiences cheer anti-minority policies, too? Or does it make more sense for Democrats to have a debate on MLK day because they tend to support civil rights for all?

"Ya hear that? We're usin' CODE names!"

calitreview.com
 
2012-01-17 03:32:08 PM
My favorite part was Harpo recalling how his party rescheduled the 2000 debate from a Friday evening to accomodate Lieberman and the Jewish Sabbath. Since when is MLK Day a freaking Sabbath?
 
2012-01-17 03:32:43 PM
It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if your own party has done the same thing you want to be outraged at the opposition party about.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass or being a hypocrite.
 
2012-01-17 03:33:32 PM
Fabric_Man: 4. Sought nomination to what has historically been the country's anti-minority party, and has made halting, if any, efforts to break that sad legacy?

Well....not exactly.
 
2012-01-17 03:35:38 PM
theknuckler_33: It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if your own party has done the same thing you want to be outraged at the opposition party about.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass or being a hypocrite.


So you're the submitter?

It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if the video has the guy repeatedly saying "I'm not outraged" before you base comments off him being supposedly outraged.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass.
 
2012-01-17 03:35:43 PM
theknuckler_33: It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if your own party has done the same thing you want to be outraged at the opposition party about.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass or being a hypocrite.


You only have to do that if you go on a network that is hostile toward your political party.
 
2012-01-17 03:39:07 PM
Theaetetus: theknuckler_33: It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if your own party has done the same thing you want to be outraged at the opposition party about.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass or being a hypocrite.

So you're the submitter?

It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if the video has the guy repeatedly saying "I'm not outraged" before you base comments off him being supposedly outraged.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass.


No, not subby. DNRTFA (now I have). My bobbies still stands... if a bit misplaced.
 
2012-01-17 03:39:20 PM
I'm just bookmarking this for later.
 
2012-01-17 03:42:32 PM
Theaetetus: theknuckler_33: It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if your own party has done the same thing you want to be outraged at the opposition party about.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass or being a hypocrite.

So you're the submitter?

It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if the video has the guy repeatedly saying "I'm not outraged" before you base comments off him being supposedly outraged.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass.


When you actually listen to what he said in the MSNBC clip in the very beginning ("And you hear Mitt Romney, all -- all of these folks very subtlety infusing race. And by the way, the Republicans have scheduled their big debate for Monday, on Martin Luther King Day, without any regard whatsoever to the civil rights issues that this state has faced.") It's pretty clear that his denials are simply an a (poor) attempt to backpeddle from his "outrage"...
 
2012-01-17 03:42:40 PM
crab66: Who farking cares?
 
2012-01-17 03:50:43 PM
BravadoGT: Theaetetus: theknuckler_33: It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if your own party has done the same thing you want to be outraged at the opposition party about.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass or being a hypocrite.

So you're the submitter?

It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if the video has the guy repeatedly saying "I'm not outraged" before you base comments off him being supposedly outraged.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass.

When you actually listen to what he said in the MSNBC clip in the very beginning ("And you hear Mitt Romney, all -- all of these folks very subtlety infusing race. And by the way, the Republicans have scheduled their big debate for Monday, on Martin Luther King Day, without any regard whatsoever to the civil rights issues that this state has faced.") It's pretty clear that his denials are simply an a (poor) attempt to backpeddle from his "outrage"...


... Things really are that simple in the conservative worldview, aren't they? I know it's difficult to understand, but it's possible for people to be fine with something - like a day that a debate is scheduled for - but be outraged about a related issue - like the fact that none of the GOP debaters did anything to recognize that day. I know, I know, it's much more comforting to believe that everything is a very simple black or white and that any event can only have one issue relating to it, but the world doesn't actually work that way.
 
2012-01-17 03:51:16 PM
Headso: theknuckler_33: It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if your own party has done the same thing you want to be outraged at the opposition party about.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass or being a hypocrite.

You only have to do that if you go on a network that is hostile toward your political party.


Well, as for looking like a jackass or hypocrite, I wasn't referring narrowly to the people doing the interviewing as having that perception, but rather to the (also somewhat narrow) group of rational, intelligent, non-ideologues who will eventually find out about it and have that perception. Perhaps foolishly, I presumed a fairly significant number of regular farkers to be among that latter group.
 
2012-01-17 03:51:47 PM
How about a Fresca?
 
2012-01-17 03:55:38 PM
Theaetetus: BravadoGT: Theaetetus: theknuckler_33: It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if your own party has done the same thing you want to be outraged at the opposition party about.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass or being a hypocrite.

So you're the submitter?

It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if the video has the guy repeatedly saying "I'm not outraged" before you base comments off him being supposedly outraged.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass.

When you actually listen to what he said in the MSNBC clip in the very beginning ("And you hear Mitt Romney, all -- all of these folks very subtlety infusing race. And by the way, the Republicans have scheduled their big debate for Monday, on Martin Luther King Day, without any regard whatsoever to the civil rights issues that this state has faced.") It's pretty clear that his denials are simply an a (poor) attempt to backpeddle from his "outrage"...

... Things really are that simple in the conservative worldview, aren't they? I know it's difficult to understand, but it's possible for people to be fine with something - like a day that a debate is scheduled for - but be outraged about a related issue - like the fact that none of the GOP debaters did anything to recognize that day. I know, I know, it's much more comforting to believe that everything is a very simple black or white and that any event can only have one issue relating to it, but the world doesn't actually work that way.


So, I realize you weren't responding directly to me, but you think I'm a conservative? Also, the dude's original comments EXPLICITELY mentioned the scheduling of the debate on MLK day. If his only issue was with them somehow honoring it, or mentioning the civil rights issues in that sate, why mention the debate at all in the context of explaining his reasons for being upset?

Talk about seeing things in black and white. Do you ever acknowledge that the party you support act like douchebags? Because, as a firm supporter of Democrats, I acknowledge that it happens quite frequently.
 
2012-01-17 03:57:28 PM
Theaetetus: theknuckler_33: It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if your own party has done the same thing you want to be outraged at the opposition party about.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass or being a hypocrite.

So you're the submitter?

It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if the video has the guy repeatedly saying "I'm not outraged" before you base comments off him being supposedly outraged.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass.


He had some good points but he did seem to get caught with that whole democrats held a debate thing, odd to go on tv that unprepared too considering it was obvious from the start that O'reilly's whole point of the interview was for that specific "gotcha" and nothing else.
 
2012-01-17 03:59:37 PM
theknuckler_33: I wasn't referring narrowly to the people doing the interviewing as having that perception, but rather to the (also somewhat narrow) group of rational, intelligent, non-ideologues who will eventually find out about it

by watching the oreilly factor?
 
2012-01-17 04:00:01 PM
Theaetetus: BravadoGT: Theaetetus: theknuckler_33: It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if your own party has done the same thing you want to be outraged at the opposition party about.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass or being a hypocrite.

So you're the submitter?

It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if the video has the guy repeatedly saying "I'm not outraged" before you base comments off him being supposedly outraged.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass.

When you actually listen to what he said in the MSNBC clip in the very beginning ("And you hear Mitt Romney, all -- all of these folks very subtlety infusing race. And by the way, the Republicans have scheduled their big debate for Monday, on Martin Luther King Day, without any regard whatsoever to the civil rights issues that this state has faced.") It's pretty clear that his denials are simply an a (poor) attempt to backpeddle from his "outrage"...

... Things really are that simple in the conservative worldview, aren't they? I know it's difficult to understand, but it's possible for people to be fine with something - like a day that a debate is scheduled for - but be outraged about a related issue - like the fact that none of the GOP debaters did anything to recognize that day. I know, I know, it's much more comforting to believe that everything is a very simple black or white and that any event can only have one issue relating to it, but the world doesn't actually work that way.


I guess you have to be a liberal to hear someone complain that "the Republicans have scheduled their big debate for Monday, on Martin Luther King Day, without any regard whatsoever to the civil rights issues that this state has faced" and then determine that apparently believe that that person, six days in advance of the holiday, obtained the complete schedule for each candidate, reviewed it, and determined that their events were insufficient to mark the day--rather than--you know--what he actually said.

Since that interview took place on Wednesday of last week on MSNBC--that MUST be the explanation, right?
 
2012-01-17 04:01:13 PM
\theknuckler_33: So, I realize you weren't responding directly to me, but you think I'm a conservative? Also, the dude's original comments EXPLICITELY mentioned the scheduling of the debate on MLK day. If his only issue was with them somehow honoring it, or mentioning the civil rights issues in that sate, why mention the debate at all in the context of explaining his reasons for being upset?

It's tougher to get clearer about what you're outraged about than: "And you hear Mitt Romney, all -- all of these folks very subtlety infusing race. And by the way, the Republicans have scheduled their big debate for Monday, on Martin Luther King Day, without any regard whatsoever to the civil rights issues that this state has faced."

You apparently believe the latter clause isn't there, since that's the only way to pile all the outrage on "and they've schedule a debate on MLK day, full stop, period."

Talk about seeing things in black and white. Do you ever acknowledge that the party you support act like douchebags? Because, as a firm supporter of Democrats, I acknowledge that it happens quite frequently

Huh. Between your "you think I'm a conservative" and "party you support" and "firm support of Democrats," it appears that you think that there are only two positions, Republican/Conservative and Democrat/Liberal, and that those terms are interchangeable. One might say that you even view them as a dichotomy... like, say, "black" and "white".
 
2012-01-17 04:02:56 PM
BravadoGT: Since that interview took place on Wednesday of last week on MSNBC--that MUST be the explanation, right?

I think it's cute that you don't believe that Presidential candidates don't schedule events in advance. Naive, but cute. I bet you even believe that photo ops are unscripted.
 
2012-01-17 04:03:47 PM
Dave Lister: How about a Fresca?

media.shopwell.com

Yum, diet Fresca.... HEY WAIT!
 
2012-01-17 04:04:00 PM
Theaetetus: :36
Bill O'Reilly: "Are you offended?"
Harpootlian: "No, I'm not offended."

1:54
Bill O'Reilly: "Are you offended?"
Harpootlian: "No, I'm not offended."


And that's all there is really is to that. How about a link and submission that isn't a complete lie?
 
2012-01-17 04:09:36 PM
Headso: theknuckler_33: I wasn't referring narrowly to the people doing the interviewing as having that perception, but rather to the (also somewhat narrow) group of rational, intelligent, non-ideologues who will eventually find out about it

by watching the oreilly factor?


No... I found out about it without watcing it. Thank goodness for the innertubes.
 
2012-01-17 04:12:10 PM
Fabric_Man: Did the Democratic debate feature serious presidential candidates who...

1. Opposed the creation of Martin Luther King day?
2. Made fun of the debate's lone black moderator?
3. Entered the debate with observers wondering how they would be able to win over the state's racists?
4. Sought nomination to what has historically been the country's anti-minority party, and has made halting, if any, efforts to break that sad legacy?


Number 1 is my favorite misrepresentation. They opposed the costs associated with another federal paid day off.
 
2012-01-17 04:18:08 PM
Theaetetus: You apparently believe the latter clause isn't there, since that's the only way to pile all the outrage on "and they've schedule a debate on MLK day, full stop, period."

Not at all. In fact, I FULLY acknowledge that statement.

theknuckler_33: or mentioning the civil rights issues in that sate

If THAT was the issue, what is the point of bringing up the scheduling of the debate on MLK day... as if that somehow makes it worse?

Theaetetus: Huh. Between your "you think I'm a conservative" and "party you support" and "firm support of Democrats," it appears that you think that there are only two positions, Republican/Conservative and Democrat/Liberal, and that those terms are interchangeable. One might say that you even view them as a dichotomy... like, say, "black" and "white".

Yea, ok. It was me. "Party you support" is generic on purpose... because, you know, you might support a different party on a different issue. Dude, I've been on Fark a while and I know you have too and we've been in many threads together. I've never been attacked for saying something so benign before. My point was basically "Don't be a hypocrite" and you are parsing things to the Nth degree. Did you get enough sleep last night? WTF is your interest in this guy from NC? He's coming off pretty whiny.
 
2012-01-17 04:23:37 PM
,b>theknuckler_33: FYI...Harpootlian is the DNC Chair from SOUTH Carolina. A rather distinct difference down here.
 
2012-01-17 04:24:09 PM
Through in two....
 
2012-01-17 04:24:15 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the Congressional Black Caucus would not host a GOP debate on ANY day.
 
2012-01-17 04:26:12 PM
theknuckler_33: I've never been attacked for saying something so benign before. My point was basically "Don't be a hypocrite" and you are parsing things to the Nth degree.

Yeah, since your original post indicated (as you've since admitted) that you were just going by the headline, and not the actual article or video, which says the opposite. I pointed that out, and you started off on some tangent about Democrats and supporting one's party or something.
Shiat, I don't have a dog in this race, other than that I don't like Bill Orly.
 
2012-01-17 04:26:13 PM
Heh, another liberal circlejerk on Fark.

Last one to cum on the toast has to eat it.
 
2012-01-17 04:26:24 PM
I like it when my team points out the hypocrisy of the other team. Beating the other team is all that matters.
 
2012-01-17 04:32:02 PM
theknuckler_33: Theaetetus: BravadoGT: Theaetetus: theknuckler_33: It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if your own party has done the same thing you want to be outraged at the opposition party about.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass or being a hypocrite.

So you're the submitter?

It's a pretty simple rule, really. Check to see if the video has the guy repeatedly saying "I'm not outraged" before you base comments off him being supposedly outraged.

Unless of course you don't mind looking like a jackass.

When you actually listen to what he said in the MSNBC clip in the very beginning ("And you hear Mitt Romney, all -- all of these folks very subtlety infusing race. And by the way, the Republicans have scheduled their big debate for Monday, on Martin Luther King Day, without any regard whatsoever to the civil rights issues that this state has faced.") It's pretty clear that his denials are simply an a (poor) attempt to backpeddle from his "outrage"...

... Things really are that simple in the conservative worldview, aren't they? I know it's difficult to understand, but it's possible for people to be fine with something - like a day that a debate is scheduled for - but be outraged about a related issue - like the fact that none of the GOP debaters did anything to recognize that day. I know, I know, it's much more comforting to believe that everything is a very simple black or white and that any event can only have one issue relating to it, but the world doesn't actually work that way.

So, I realize you weren't responding directly to me, but you think I'm a conservative? Also, the dude's original comments EXPLICITELY mentioned the scheduling of the debate on MLK day. If his only issue was with them somehow honoring it, or mentioning the civil rights issues in that sate, why mention the debate at all in the context of explaining his reasons for being upset?

Talk about seeing things in black and white. Do you ever acknowledge that the party you suppo ...


Some people refuse to ever acknowledge that someone on their team is wrong or faking outrage for purely political purposes. Some people will go so far as to spin some elaborate BS in an attempt to turn it back on you, such as the drivel above. And if the spin doesn't work they will lie about it.

This guy brought up that it was MLK day for a reason. Either he was outraged about it or was trying to incite outrage in other people for political purposes. Now had he actually thought it was wrong for them to do it he would have remembered his own party doing it in the last cycle. He tried to score some cheap political points for his party and he got called out on it. It wasn't hypocracy either, it was just a cheap political move that backfired. He was trying to curry favor with black people by faking and trying to incite outrage by suggesting disrespecful intentions.
 
2012-01-17 04:32:59 PM
KanedaJD: Heh, another liberal circlejerk on Fark.

Last one to cum on the toast has to eat it.


Must be election season. I can't tell you how many times I saw this very sentiment back in 2008.
 
2012-01-17 04:34:28 PM
MyRandomName: Number 1 is my favorite misrepresentation. They opposed the costs associated with another federal paid day off.

Oh, of course. It's not like they'd be against giving black people a special holiday or anything. The GOP has many black friends.
 
2012-01-17 04:38:38 PM
TheDumbBlonde: ,b>theknuckler_33: FYI...Harpootlian is the DNC Chair from SOUTH Carolina. A rather distinct difference down here.

Oops... my bad. I actually do know that.
 
2012-01-17 04:39:06 PM
BravadoGT: Man, that's almost painful to watch. Baxter inflicts the mortal wound by pointing out the Dems in 2008, and then, the coup de grace--it was sponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus? I almost felt sorry for the guy...Almost.

I'm a democrat and I don't feel the least bit bad for him. People like this who make up things to be pissed about are the ones hurting the country.

I'm glad he was made to look like an asshat.
 
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