That's only because gay couples can't get first dibs on the really good adoptable babies.

Meh... Used babies.. I know the total cost of ownership is more on new babies and they depreciate more but I just like being the first owner ya know?

that ought to blow a few fundies' minds.

I can already hear panties getting bunched up across the Bible Belt...

I wouldn't rag on anyone for not adopting outside their race. Many adoption agencies make it extremely difficult for people to do, if they allow it at all.

PizzaJedi81: SilentStrider: that ought to blow a few fundies' minds.

Oh, trust me, there will be MASSIVE rationalization. I'm just wondering how...

Maybe something along these lines. First, the study is flawed in that it compared gay parents with all hetero parents instead of just those who adopted. That comparison would correct for the motivation and commitment factors mentioned in the article. All this does is show the absolute importance of maintaining the sanctity of traditional marriage--an institution the gays are actively attacking. Undoubtedly, it is the children from unwed mothers and single parents who are bringing down the heterosexual numbers as a whole. Therefore, this is the gays' fault.

Or maybe something even stupider. I don't know.

How about:
In a 2010 review of virtually every study on gay parenting, New York University sociologist Judith Stacey and University of Southern California sociologist Tim Biblarz found no differences between children raised in homes with two heterosexual parents and children raised with lesbian parents.

/Huffington and puffington post. you expect them to report the truth?

I'd include Foster Parents. Not all are gems but many are decent people doing their best to help kids.

Rapmaster2000: This is terrible. Gay parents make gay kids like straight parents make straight kids. It's in Revelations, people!

I don't know. My parents are very straight, and my brother is very not straight.

I would argue that gay and lesbian parents are probably *statistically* better parents, because you don't have unplanned adoptions, or people adopting kids the can't feed/don't want.

Again, that's only statistical. I've looked into adoption, because I don't want to pass on my bad idea jeans, and it's a hell of a lot harder than getting knocked up.

Earpj: Rapmaster2000: This is terrible. Gay parents make gay kids like straight parents make straight kids. It's in Revelations, people!

I don't know. My parents are very straight, and my brother is very not straight.

Think you need to recalibrate your Sarcasm Meter... or maybe I do.

keylock71:

Think you need to recalibrate your Sarcasm Meter... or maybe I do.

It's all good. Can't read sarcasm in type.
/Really needs a sarcasm font.

what_now: statistically

I couldn't fit that in the headline, it got kicked back to me.

Earpj: keylock71:

Think you need to recalibrate your Sarcasm Meter... or maybe I do.

It's all good. Can't read sarcasm in type.
/Really needs a sarcasm font.

It should be Comic Sans... : )

Too old, outside my race, and special needs?
Well I have considered adopting a 17 yr old asian girl with nymphomania, does, that count as heroic?

Gay parents adopt with their hearts. Hetero parents adopt with their heads.

That's because they're too concerned with raising the 'perfect' kid.

I do really wish that people would stop talking about giving gay people the right to adopt kids.

No, gay couples shouldn't have the right to adopt kids - neither should straight couples. Couples, be they straight or gay, who can provide a stable and loving environment for a kid to grow up in can be granted the privilege of adopting kids, but talking about their rights to adopt obscures the fact that the person whose rights we're talking about in this situation should be the child.

PizzaJedi81: SilentStrider: that ought to blow a few fundies' minds.

Oh, trust me, there will be MASSIVE rationalization. I'm just wondering how...

FTA:And while research indicates that kids of gay parents show few differences in achievement, mental health, social functioning and other measures, these kids may have the advantage of open-mindedness, tolerance and role models for equitable relationships, according to some research

Research has shown that the kids of same-sex couples - both adopted and biological kids - fare no worse than the kids of straight couples on mental health, social functioning, school performance and a variety of other life-success measures.

In a 2010 review of virtually every study on gay parenting, New York University sociologist Judith Stacey and University of Southern California sociologist Tim Biblarz found no differences between children raised in homes with two heterosexual parents and children raised with lesbian parents.

Trolling headline is trolling. No where does the research say gay couple are better parents than straight couples, it says that in most cases they are as good as.

And while research indicates that kids of gay parents show few differences in achievement, mental health, social functioning and other measures, these kids may have the advantage of open-mindedness, tolerance and role models for equitable relationships...

So liberal parents are more likely to raise liberal children

according to some research

Maybe.

This article is biased as hell.

FWIW, I support gay rights and think it's great that they adopt. But the idea that this research "proves" anything is bullshiat. I wouldn't be surprised if the author dislocated something while stretching to make their point.

keylock71:
It's all good. Can't read sarcasm in type.
/Really needs a sarcasm font.

It should be Comic Sans... : )

That it should.

Crudbucket: FWIW, I support gay rights and think it's great that they adopt. But the idea that this research "proves" anything is bullshiat. I wouldn't be surprised if the author dislocated something while stretching to make their point.

So what would it take to prove this to you? What part do you doubt? Just curious, really.

Di Atribe: Crudbucket: FWIW, I support gay rights and think it's great that they adopt. But the idea that this research "proves" anything is bullshiat. I wouldn't be surprised if the author dislocated something while stretching to make their point.

So what would it take to prove this to you? What part do you doubt? Just curious, really.

To prove what?

Gay penguins make good parents, too.

+1 for the use of the Hero tag, subby. I'm adopted, and I thank the stars every day that my parents opened their home to me. A lot of kids out there still need a home and some love in their lives, and adoption is a great way to do just that.

Di Atribe: Crudbucket: FWIW, I support gay rights and think it's great that they adopt. But the idea that this research "proves" anything is bullshiat. I wouldn't be surprised if the author dislocated something while stretching to make their point.

So what would it take to prove this to you? What part do you doubt? Just curious, really.

It's much easier to doubt the headline, which makes a claim that somebody can quantify "better parent". Not to mention that it comes to a conclusion that the research does not.

Also,

Di Atribe: Crudbucket: FWIW, I support gay rights and think it's great that they adopt. But the idea that this research "proves" anything is bullshiat. I wouldn't be surprised if the author dislocated something while stretching to make their point.

So what would it take to prove this to you? What part do you doubt? Just curious, really.

If you mean to prove that gay couples are better parents, then the research should show a noticeable increase in school performance, mental well-being, and whatever other life-success metrics they want to test for. By the articles own admission, the research doesn't show that. At best, it says they're no worse than hetero couples.

The article also states that gay couples are only more likely to adopt special needs children because they don't get first pick at most places. Gay couples don't want an AIDS baby any more than a straight couple does, they're just more desperate. If gay adoption becomes more social acceptable and gay couples are considered on a equal footing as straight couples, the demand for clean babies will go up accordingly.

The claim that gay couples may be likely to raise children who are more "open-minded" and PC is a big whoop-de-doo. Children are likely to share the beliefs they were raised with? Groundbreaking.

Gay people are better at everything ever.

Actual Farking: PizzaJedi81: SilentStrider: that ought to blow a few fundies' minds.

Oh, trust me, there will be MASSIVE rationalization. I'm just wondering how...

Maybe something along these lines. First, the study is flawed in that it compared gay parents with all hetero parents instead of just those who adopted. That comparison would correct for the motivation and commitment factors mentioned in the article. All this does is show the absolute importance of maintaining the sanctity of traditional marriage--an institution the gays are actively attacking. Undoubtedly, it is the children from unwed mothers and single parents who are bringing down the heterosexual numbers as a whole. Therefore, this is the gays' fault.

Or maybe something even stupider. I don't know.

Outside of your conclusion, your first point is valid. Including all heterosexual parents, when that includes many children who are the result of unplanned pregnancies (and perhaps not well-thought-out decisions), shows the comparison as flawed, since gay couples cannot have unplanned pregnancies. It seems the bigger point is that when a couple has to go through the rigor and red tape of adopting a child, and makes it through the process, they are more likely to be better parents.