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India guesses at birthdate of army chief, approximates international borders, ensures world nuclear codes more or less secure
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oakwolf
2012-01-17 11:56:34 AM
Does this have anything to do with why I get such vague information from call center helpdesks?
redmid17
2012-01-17 11:59:12 AM
No birth certificate? I feel like I've heard this one before.
offmymeds
2012-01-17 12:00:29 PM
...Singh has no birth certificate.
It seems like I've heard that somewhere before.
Apos
2012-01-17 12:00:47 PM
No LFBC to clear this up? Bummer.
Seth'n'Spectrum
2012-01-17 12:07:52 PM
redmid17
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No birth certificate? I feel like I've heard this one before.
offmymeds
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...Singh has no birth certificate.
It seems like I've heard that somewhere before.
I wonder if there's an Indian expatriate community in Kenya...
lordargent
2012-01-17 12:08:50 PM
I just got back from a 2 week trip to India, so I'm really getting a kick. And I have a new appreciation as to why so much code comes back half assed.
New Delhi/Udaipur/Jaipur, etc. I rote in planes, boats, tuk tuks, trains, etc.
redmid17
2012-01-17 12:10:12 PM
Seth'n'Spectrum
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redmid17: No birth certificate? I feel like I've heard this one before.
offmymeds: ...Singh has no birth certificate.
It seems like I've heard that somewhere before.
I wonder if there's an Indian expatriate community in Kenya...
There's 100,000 of them ...
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offmymeds
2012-01-17 12:10:30 PM
lordargent
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I just got back from a 2 week trip to India, so I'm really getting a kick. And I have a new appreciation as to why so much code comes back half assed.
New Delhi/Udaipur/Jaipur, etc. I rote in planes, boats, tuk tuks, trains, etc.
You rote in a boat?
oakwolf
2012-01-17 12:20:33 PM
redmid17
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Seth'n'Spectrum: redmid17: No birth certificate? I feel like I've heard this one before.
offmymeds: ...Singh has no birth certificate.
It seems like I've heard that somewhere before.
I wonder if there's an Indian expatriate community in Kenya...
There's 100,000 of them ... Link (new window)
So, if I follow your thinking, you're saying Obama is a Kenya-born Indian? Ah, it makes sense now.... ;)
Seth'n'Spectrum
2012-01-17 12:25:05 PM
approximates international borders
It's funny because it's true. Along the disputed border with China in the northeast, in Kashmir, and along the long and ridiculously convoluted border with Bangladesh.
brantgoose
2012-01-17 12:40:01 PM
Organization is for sissies.
In India, chaos is the only way to get things done.
Item one, the way the traffic flows.
This is, for a person from the First World, the scariest thing in the world. If you haven't seen it, you should try YouTube. The French are famously wild drivers but they by no means approach the chaotic "flock of birds" effect that Indians manage by combining pedestrians and trucks and cars and buses and sacred cows and camels and rickshaws and motorized rickshaws all going all out in all directions at once.
Item two, the way the Indians do business.
There's a can do, never say die attitude towards making a buck that is awesome to behold. If you ask for something they don't have, they'll get it, fake it, sell you something else, or die trying.
Item three, close enough.
Indians are not perfectionists. They don't have time to do things right. They just do. Some Indian comedians from the UK, the US or Canada can give you an idea of the Indian mentality. For example Russell Peters, Indo-Canadian, Shaun Majumber (Newfoundlander and Indian, two ethnic stereotypes for the prize of one in the graveyard tonight), Sugar Sammy (Canada), Aziz Ansari (USA), Danny Bhoy (UK) etc. I have DVDs of the comedy plus some television roles of all of these.
http://www.russellpeters.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Peters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Majumder
Just remember, India is a human jungle (with all the ecological niches filled by humans) and Indians are batshiat crazy even by American or British standards of individualism and eccentricity. How else would they end up in places like Madagascar, South Africa, Trinidad or Newfoundland?
Russell Peters is especially good at making fun of the foibles and national quirks of many different "minorities". He grew up in Toronto with Indian, Jamaican and white Canadian friends and thus has a remarkable grip on multiculturalism from the inside and outside at once. He does good impressions of many ethnicities, several of which are his own heritage.
I've seen Peters and Mojumber in American TV roles which are feeble, bland and stereotypical. To really appreciate them you have to see them in front of a Canadian or British audience full of Indians, Pakistanis, Middle Easterners, Blacks, Africans, West Indians, etc. Many of these people have formed a world culture and share a trans-national experience which the rest of us can only imagine.
If you can't handle chaos, stay out of the world.
paswa17
2012-01-17 12:43:43 PM
Gen. Vijay Kumar Singh says he was born in May 1951
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met with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and other Cabinet members
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Jaswant Singh, a former defense minister, warned Tuesday
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Talk about nepotism, these guys are all related!
redmid17
2012-01-17 12:46:20 PM
paswa17
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Gen. Vijay Kumar Singh says he was born in May 1951...met with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and other Cabinet members...Jaswant Singh, a former defense minister, warned Tuesday...
Talk about nepotism, these guys are all related!
brantgoose
2012-01-17 12:46:40 PM
Speaking of chaos, I've seen third world toilet accommodations. I've been to Italy.
You wouldn't catch me dead in India, despite all the wonderful things and people that can be found there. I just haven't got that much flexibility, adaptability, tolerance for insanity and confusion. I think the British only managed because their governing classes were masters of half-assery and paradox to start with and because they were used to having underlings sort things out for them without asking questions about the details.
I think I understand India, it scares the bejesus out of me at least.
Ha! ha! Comma splice!
Comma Splice would be a good name for a band.
phalamir
2012-01-17 12:48:34 PM
paswa17
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Gen. Vijay Kumar Singh says he was born in May 1951...met with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and other Cabinet members...Jaswant Singh, a former defense minister, warned Tuesday...
Talk about nepotism, these guys are all related!
Just in case you aren't trolling: All Sikh men have the same surname "Singh", even though they are not related in many cases. Beyond this, Singh itself is not relegated to just Sikhs, but is a reasonably common surname in and of itself - think Johnson in the US
Vorpal
2012-01-17 12:58:28 PM
Have you tried rebooting him?
ObeliskToucher
2012-01-17 01:49:14 PM
phalamir
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paswa17: Gen. Vijay Kumar Singh says he was born in May 1951...met with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and other Cabinet members...Jaswant Singh, a former defense minister, warned Tuesday...
Talk about nepotism, these guys are all related!
Just in case you aren't trolling: All Sikh men have the same surname "Singh", even though they are not related in many cases. Beyond this, Singh itself is not relegated to just Sikhs, but is a reasonably common surname in and of itself - think Johnson in the US
Nicely done (& subtle) tip-o-the-hat to redmid17's post?
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baronvonzipper
2012-01-17 02:10:12 PM
brantgoose
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f you can't handle chaos, stay out of the world
Word. I've been trying to leave for centuries.
Slowdog
2012-01-17 02:35:19 PM
oakwolf
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Does this have anything to do with why I get such vague information from call center helpdesks?
Maybe.
Twice Banned
2012-01-17 07:23:20 PM
paswa17
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Gen. Vijay Kumar Singh says he was born in May 1951...met with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and other Cabinet members...Jaswant Singh, a former defense minister, warned Tuesday...
Talk about nepotism, these guys are all related!
Don't forget about:
lordargent
2012-01-18 02:18:47 AM
offmymeds: You rote in a boat?
I rote in a boat on the woatah.
/typo, haven't had access to a computer/internet for 14 days.
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