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SlothB77
2012-01-17 08:40:30 AM
Hey guys, i don't want to threadjack or anything, but does anybody know the conditions that warrant a mutiny legal on a disabled ship?
Molavian
2012-01-17 08:42:26 AM
IT'S JUST LIKE TITANIC!
fifthhorseman
2012-01-17 08:42:48 AM
Man they really need to make a movie about something like this. Some kind of star-studded special effects extravaganza.
fifthhorseman
2012-01-17 08:43:28 AM
Molavian
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IT'S JUST LIKE TITANIC!
You fn bastard. 20 seconds.
Confabulat
2012-01-17 08:43:33 AM
That would be frickin' surreal. wild
ZAZ
2012-01-17 08:45:05 AM
Tourism student Erika Soria
Can you really study tourism or is this an English expression for "student on holiday"?
I_Am_Weasel
2012-01-17 08:46:03 AM
It's unlikely anyone was promised this. Doesn't look like it'll be making another run anytime soon.
Rapmaster2000
2012-01-17 08:46:40 AM
If they could see you now, dead on a funship cruise!
Freakin Rican
2012-01-17 08:47:15 AM
the "grounded" pic is a nice pic. sad but nice
Pribar
2012-01-17 08:48:02 AM
1 -smack-SlothB77-/smack-
2 This story is approaching missing white girl territory, every few weeks a ship sinks and kills 100+ and all they get is a one paragraph blurb (if that) so far it looks like fewer than 20 died here and yet multi page updates 3 times a day.
dittybopper
2012-01-17 08:48:12 AM
Great, now I've got "There's got to be a morning after" running through my head.
/If we can make it through the night...
Jake Havechek
2012-01-17 08:48:12 AM
SlothB77
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Hey guys, i don't want to threadjack or anything, but does anybody know the conditions that warrant a mutiny legal on a disabled ship?
Shut it!
Let's argue for 500 posts about what "capsized" means!
SlothB77
2012-01-17 08:48:52 AM
what temperature is that mediterrean water in January? are we talking hypothermia after a few minutes or just uncomfortable?
GaidinCanuck
2012-01-17 08:49:15 AM
Threadjack:
Coastguard to captain (who has already left the ship):
"There are people who are coming down the ladder on the bow. Go back in the opposite direction, get back on the ship, and tell me how many people there are and what they have on board.
"Tell me if there are children, women and what type of help they need. And you tell me the number of each of these categories. Is that clear?!
"Listen Schettino, perhaps you have saved yourself from the sea but I will make you look very bad. I will make you pay for this. Dammit, go back on board!"
Captain to Coastguard: "Please ...."
Coastguard to captain: "There is no please about it. Go back on board. Assure me you are going back on board!"
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dittybopper
2012-01-17 08:49:42 AM
Jake Havechek
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SlothB77: Hey guys, i don't want to threadjack or anything, but does anybody know the conditions that warrant a mutiny legal on a disabled ship?
Shut it!
Let's argue for 500 posts about what "capsized" means!
You want to know everything you need to know about capsizing? Wrap a measuring tape around your head.
ltdanman44
2012-01-17 08:52:02 AM
GaidinCanuck
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Threadjack:
Coastguard to captain (who has already left the ship):
"There are people who are coming down the ladder on the bow. Go back in the opposite direction, get back on the ship, and tell me how many people there are and what they have on board.
"Tell me if there are children, women and what type of help they need. And you tell me the number of each of these categories. Is that clear?!
"Listen Schettino, perhaps you have saved yourself from the sea but I will make you look very bad. I will make you pay for this. Dammit, go back on board!"
Captain to Coastguard: "Please ...."
Coastguard to captain: "There is no please about it. Go back on board. Assure me you are going back on board!"
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Wiskey.Tango.Foxtrot.
Bendal
2012-01-17 08:52:59 AM
SlothB77
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what temperature is that mediterrean water in January? are we talking hypothermia after a few minutes or just uncomfortable?
I remember earlier reports said the water was around 50 degrees. Cold enough to cause hypothermia if exposed long enough, but not North Atlantic water cold.
Jake Havechek
2012-01-17 08:53:31 AM
If you look at the course the ship was supposed to follow and the detour the asshole captain took, it's believable he wanted to get in close so one of the idiot waiters on that tub could wave to his farking family.
Then captain Spaghetti Boy, probably the first ashore, calls his mama before he does anything else.
I'm surprised Italy gets any tourism dollars at all, the place is disorganization personified. Every band I've talked to or read interviews from touring in Italy says it's a logistical nightmare because the local crews are either stupid, lazy, or both.
Confabulat
2012-01-17 08:54:17 AM
Pribar
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This story is approaching missing white girl territory, every few weeks a ship sinks and kills 100+ and all they get is a one paragraph blurb (if that) so far it looks like fewer than 20 died here and yet multi page updates 3 times a day.
Really. Every few weeks a ship sinks and a hundred people plus die, and this is ignored by the media.
Citation needed, please.
Jake Havechek
2012-01-17 08:55:00 AM
dittybopper
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Jake Havechek: SlothB77: Hey guys, i don't want to threadjack or anything, but does anybody know the conditions that warrant a mutiny legal on a disabled ship?
Shut it!
Let's argue for 500 posts about what "capsized" means!
You want to know everything you need to know about capsizing? Wrap a measuring tape around your head.
You ball sucker.
yoursafewordisharder
2012-01-17 08:55:52 AM
Missing this:
JohnCarter
2012-01-17 08:58:18 AM
As long as it doesn't turn into this
ihatedumbpeople
2012-01-17 08:59:04 AM
Man, that's just a crappy situation...you go on vacation and some wacko caption flips your ship over. THIS sort of stuff is why lawsuits were created.
swahnhennessy
2012-01-17 09:01:45 AM
GaidinCanuck
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Coastguard to captain: "There is no please about it. Go back on board. Assure me you are going back on board!"
The hell? Did he get his captaining degree from DeVry?
Also, you get a real
Poseidon Adventure
vibe from some of those photos.
OldManDownDRoad
2012-01-17 09:01:52 AM
Confabulat
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Pribar: This story is approaching missing white girl territory, every few weeks a ship sinks and kills 100+ and all they get is a one paragraph blurb (if that) so far it looks like fewer than 20 died here and yet multi page updates 3 times a day.
Really. Every few weeks a ship sinks and a hundred people plus die, and this is ignored by the media.
Citation needed, please.
Aw, those are ferry accidents in godforsaken places like Indonesia and the Philippines. Not like a boat full of Europeans off a picturesque Italian village. I mean, if you were a news hound, would you want to fly to Bumfark, Indonesia, and squat in the mud while trying to interview survivors who don't even speaka da English, or hang out in a nice portside cafe while taking shots of a capsized liner? Priorities, man.
And here's your citation:
Enormous-Schwanstucker
2012-01-17 09:03:37 AM
yoursafewordisharder
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Missing this:
[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]
Wow, just wow. PA is ending on Cinemax as I write this and that very scene appeared as I scrolled down the page. Coincidence Cinemax aired this movie today?
My day is done. I'm gonna go take a nap.
Confabulat
2012-01-17 09:04:33 AM
OldManDownDRoad
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Aw, those are ferry accidents in godforsaken places like Indonesia and the Philippines. Not like a boat full of Europeans off a picturesque Italian village
Those ferries cost like a hundred dollars and change and even those only go down rarely, and they make big news when they do. But this was a damn floating skyscraper. Anyone who wonders why this is news is a dumbfark, plain and simple. Just a stupid person.
Pribar
2012-01-17 09:05:13 AM
Confabulat
Google "ferry sinks" or "sinks 100 feared dead" I get maritime updates at work and I think the record so far has been 3 months between mass fatality sinkings.
myinternetname
2012-01-17 09:07:46 AM
Molavian
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IT'S JUST LIKE TITANIC!
YOU BASTARD I WAS GOING TO WATCH THAT TOMORROW!
Could they really have gotten more a shiatty camera for almost all of those pics?
Hell the low end 1.3 MP camera I used to take twat pics of my ex wife in 2001 look better than these pictures.
/I'll go back and compare just to make sure
//see you in about 2-3 minutes
Gunny Walker
2012-01-17 09:09:57 AM
Whatever the story, it has got to be a hard work to flip a cruise ship, right?
Confabulat
2012-01-17 09:10:12 AM
Pribar
:
Confabulat
Google "ferry sinks" or "sinks 100 feared dead" I get maritime updates at work and I think the record so far has been 3 months between mass fatality sinkings.
Sorry, but you are sounding like an idiot. You're comparing an apartment fire to a skyscraper falling over, and wondering what the big deal is with the skyscraper and why doesn't anyone worry more about the poor apartments.
dittybopper
2012-01-17 09:13:41 AM
SlothB77
:
what temperature is that mediterrean water in January? are we talking hypothermia after a few minutes or just uncomfortable?
Looks like the sea surface temp around that area is roughly 23 degrees Centigrade, or about 73 degrees Fahrenheit. Uncomfortable, but tolerable for a few hours. Certainly long enough for even the most inept swimmer to make the few hundred yards to shore.
T-Servo
2012-01-17 09:16:49 AM
As much of a royal asshat as the skipper was, it kind of begs the question of what kind of company or industry would have promoted him.
UtileDysfunktion
2012-01-17 09:18:06 AM
You know, I'd feel bad enough if I were to do something stupid like crash my car into a tree. Wonder what it's like to crash a 115,000-tonne, $330M boat with thousands of people on board.
ZAZ
2012-01-17 09:18:14 AM
THIS sort of stuff is why lawsuits were created.
Liability for shipwrecks is generally limited to the value of the wreck. The wreck probably has some net value after costs of recovery, but not enough for American style jury handouts. You can't get a jury trial anyway in this sort of case; admiralty cases not involving injury to crew members are heard by judges in America and probably Europe too.
ringersol
2012-01-17 09:18:53 AM
OldManDownDRoad: "And here's your citation:"
+1 internet.
Pribar
2012-01-17 09:27:06 AM
Confabulat
No I understand that its big news just not 20 updates an hour on my RSS feed big news, and I love how you went from calling me out on how often mass fatality sinkings happen, which is a bit more often than
even those only go down rarely
unless 100 or so deaths every few weeks is inconsequential to you.
MrCheeks
2012-01-17 09:27:31 AM
"Hello and welcome to Costa Concordia de Sunk, we are clearing off a table for you and your guests. It will only be a few more moments.'
jtfx
2012-01-17 09:28:50 AM
Wow, less than an hour from impact to rolling over. Is it just me, or did anyone else think a ship built in 2005 would last longer than the titanic after suffering similar damage?
dittybopper
2012-01-17 09:29:19 AM
T-Servo
:
As much of a royal asshat as the skipper was, it kind of begs the question of what kind of company or industry would have promoted him.
It's tough to figure out who is going to be cool and collected under that kind of pressure beforehand. Even naval forces have a hard time training for that, and their mission is to go into harm's way. It's probably much harder for the cruise ship industry, as they've invested so much money into making the ships as safe as possible that most ship's officers will never have a major incident in their careers, and the only time they'll get into trouble is on-shore in a simulator, which isn't really the same: As good as they can be for helping you do train for things, you ass isn't in actual danger in them.
SlothB77
2012-01-17 09:30:07 AM
dittybopper
:
SlothB77: what temperature is that mediterrean water in January? are we talking hypothermia after a few minutes or just uncomfortable?
Looks like the sea surface temp around that area is roughly 23 degrees Centigrade, or about 73 degrees Fahrenheit. Uncomfortable, but tolerable for a few hours. Certainly long enough for even the most inept swimmer to make the few hundred yards to shore.
73 isn't bad at all. 50 OTOH gets pretty uncomfortable pretty quick.
Im In Love With Americans
2012-01-17 09:31:08 AM
Too soon?
tetsoushima
2012-01-17 09:31:41 AM
jtfx
:
Wow, less than an hour from impact to rolling over. Is it just me, or did anyone else think a ship built in 2005 would last longer than the titanic after suffering similar damage?
Yeah, but at least it didn't sink completely.
dittybopper
2012-01-17 09:31:41 AM
jtfx
:
Wow, less than an hour from impact to rolling over. Is it just me, or did anyone else think a ship built in 2005 would last longer than the titanic after suffering similar damage?
It's just you. Ships is ships. This one got holed in the engine room, apparently, and the nature of that area is that it includes rather large open spaces for the, you know, huge engines. That lets in a lot of water even if you close all the watertight doors in time.
ph0rk
2012-01-17 09:33:38 AM
myinternetname
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Could they really have gotten more a shiatty camera for almost all of those pics?
Would you take your "good" camera on/in to a half sunk ship? They were navy divers, not photographers.
LineNoise
2012-01-17 09:34:08 AM
dittybopper
:
T-Servo: As much of a royal asshat as the skipper was, it kind of begs the question of what kind of company or industry would have promoted him.
It's tough to figure out who is going to be cool and collected under that kind of pressure beforehand. Even naval forces have a hard time training for that, and their mission is to go into harm's way. It's probably much harder for the cruise ship industry, as they've invested so much money into making the ships as safe as possible that most ship's officers will never have a major incident in their careers, and the only time they'll get into trouble is on-shore in a simulator, which isn't really the same: As good as they can be for helping you do train for things, you ass isn't in actual danger in them.
My question is what the hell everyone else on deck was doing when he did something as stupid as that. Something that size is going to have at least another officer on the deck at all times, not to mention someone checking charts, a helmsman, etc. You figure at least one of them would have said "hey, this is farking stupid"
Yea, the captain trumps them all, but their duty also requires them not to follow a retarded order.
mortimer_ford
2012-01-17 09:34:19 AM
I wonder if the fun slide still works.
Nuno311
2012-01-17 09:34:50 AM
Does anyone know what the owner of the ship does when they're done searching it?
Break it apart and let it sink to the bottom? (and face the hellstorm from Greenpeace etc - although I've heard that as long as the toxic crap is removed they make for good a manmade reef or something like that)
Try to repair it and put it back in service?
Gut it out and take all the piping etc....like the thieves do to forecosed homes?
And I'm not a structural engineer but can't they make the hulls out of something sturdy enough to withstand a low speed impact. Maybe like the 5mph bumpers we have on cars (but to a much more compicated degree obviously). Or an outer hull and if it were to be pierced then fill it the outer and inner shell full of "Fix-A-Flat"? :)
Jake Havechek
2012-01-17 09:36:09 AM
Phyllis: Michael, everyone in the engine room drowned.
Michael: No! Thank you, spoiler alert. You saw the movie, those of you who did. They're happy down there in the furnace room. And they're dirty and grimy and sweaty, and they're singing their ethnic songs, and... actually, that might be warehouse.
Darryl: What?
Independent_George
2012-01-17 09:36:59 AM
Anyone have any idea of what they are going to do with this boat once the rescue/recovery phases are complete? It's not like they can just call a tug...
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