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2012-01-17 09:39:12 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

.. is a really fascinating book, and highly recommended
 
2012-01-17 09:41:30 AM  
Sometimes, I wonder if I am anhedonic.
 
2012-01-17 10:05:59 AM  
This calls for a brain specialist.

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-17 10:31:14 AM  
farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2012-01-17 10:43:36 AM  
Woo!

6 of 10!
 
2012-01-17 11:04:46 AM  
Easy. People want to be able to look down on other people.
 
2012-01-17 11:14:51 AM  
I wonder if #10 is associated with parkinsons. My mom has Parkinsons and she always seems like she is about to fall over but manages to wobble back the other way.
 
2012-01-17 11:19:53 AM  
I liked the story of the guy who was in a car accident and injured the portion of his brain that returned emotional response to external inputs (eyes, ears, touch, etc) - essentially it told him how he "felt" about things he experienced. However, it only damaged the link between his eyes and this part of his brain. The upshot was, when he was in the hospital, his mother called him on the phone, and when he heard her voice, this part of his brain responded with "you love your mom", but when she came in to visit him in person, his vision center asked how he felt about the person in front of him and he got nothing in return (no feelings whatsoever). In response to this situation the higher level brain functions, which knew she was his mom, came up with the only explanation as to why he had no feelings at all: she was not his mom, but an impostor.

Alternatively, there was a person who injured the same portion of this brain, but in this case it always returned the most monumental level of joy and excitement it possibly could in response to EVERY input. This person went insane, eventually thinking they were God because everything in the world was just so spectacular and wondrous.

Brains are weird, man,
 
2012-01-17 11:28:11 AM  
Capgras for the masses.
 
2012-01-17 11:30:56 AM  
Anosognia?
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-01-17 11:31:40 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: I liked the story of the guy who was in a car accident and injured the portion of his brain that returned emotional response to external inputs (eyes, ears, touch, etc) - essentially it told him how he "felt" about things he experienced. However, it only damaged the link between his eyes and this part of his brain. The upshot was, when he was in the hospital, his mother called him on the phone, and when he heard her voice, this part of his brain responded with "you love your mom", but when she came in to visit him in person, his vision center asked how he felt about the person in front of him and he got nothing in return (no feelings whatsoever). In response to this situation the higher level brain functions, which knew she was his mom, came up with the only explanation as to why he had no feelings at all: she was not his mom, but an impostor.

Alternatively, there was a person who injured the same portion of this brain, but in this case it always returned the most monumental level of joy and excitement it possibly could in response to EVERY input. This person went insane, eventually thinking they were God because everything in the world was just so spectacular and wondrous.

Brains are weird, man,


I woke up on the floor again
And I needed something to eat
So I went down the street to Monty's grill
"What'll it be?" said Monty, sporting a wry grin
"Just give me the usual, Monty," I said
Monty just scratched his head and said, "What is that again?"
The usual was a Utah burger with cheese fries and a Coke
Monty knew that
I had been coming there every day for four years
Then I began to realize, the man behind the counter was the impostor
 
2012-01-17 11:33:29 AM  
[csb]
Had disphasia
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FTFA:

The globus pallidus is the part of the brain that regulates when we get rewarded with a little burst of pleasure chemicals. Sometimes that burst can be in response to a pleasurable event, or a reward for doing something that we deem necessary, or even just the cessation of pain.


Or the electrodes I have implanted in my nucleus accumbens.
 
2012-01-17 11:35:47 AM  
"7. Palinopsia Patients Literally Cannot Unsee Things"

cache.ohinternet.com


Sorry.......................low hanging fruit
 
2012-01-17 11:38:02 AM  
Teen Mom is not that bad....Jersey Shore on the other hand is the sign of the coming apocalypse.

I watch Teen Mom on netflix because I love documentaries and the show is well done although all the episodes are kind of the same. After watching a couple of seasons I've come to the conclusion that birth control should be freely given out in public schools and there should be more deadbeat dad laws and punishments.
 
2012-01-17 11:40:43 AM  
On the case

unpics.com
 
2012-01-17 11:50:43 AM  
What about the one where you think that everything is Obama's fault?
 
2012-01-17 12:30:07 PM  

KarmicDisaster: What about the one where you think that everything is Obama's fault?


Obama Derangement Syndrome, or O.D.S.
 
2012-01-17 12:48:48 PM  
You wanna know a real brain strange brain disorder? The one where people accept the really extreme disorders that affect 1 in a bazillion people as real, but then deny that a milder disorder like aspergers is real.

Its the equivalent of believing geniuses exist, retards exist, but the 70 to 90 and 110 to 130 IQ ranges are just figments of our imagination. That the 70-90 folks aren't less equipped for learning, but that they are just lazy and deserve derision. That the 110-130 folks aren't more equipped than average for intellectual success, but that it was all hard work and dedication.

A runner up to that is people turning their logic off and believing homosexuality is a choice.


People: they are farking weird.
 
2012-01-17 12:57:02 PM  

Smackledorfer: You wanna know a real brain strange brain disorder? The one where people accept the really extreme disorders that affect 1 in a bazillion people as real, but then deny that a milder disorder like aspergers is real.

Its the equivalent of believing geniuses exist, retards exist, but the 70 to 90 and 110 to 130 IQ ranges are just figments of our imagination. That the 70-90 folks aren't less equipped for learning, but that they are just lazy and deserve derision. That the 110-130 folks aren't more equipped than average for intellectual success, but that it was all hard work and dedication.

A runner up to that is people turning their logic off and believing homosexuality is a choice.


People: they are farking weird.


There's also the group of people who always think their IQ is at least 130+, even with all evidence to the contrary.
 
2012-01-17 12:59:31 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: In response to this situation the higher level brain functions, which knew she was his mom, came up with the only explanation as to why he had no feelings at all: she was not his mom, but an impostor.


One of the most fascinating and disturbing things about brain injuries is how people fabulate bizarre explanations for their symptoms when one part of the brain can't understand what's happened to another part. It's a profound reminder of the extent to which our sense of self is dependent on the correct functioning of the brain as a physical organ.

Some researchers increasingly suspect (worry?) that in reality, fabulation is all there is to even an undamaged brain, i.e. that free will is an illusion and what we call our consciousness is nothing more than a part of our brain that is "following us around" and making up a story about what the rest of our brain and body have mechanically determined to do, about two seconds after the fact.

/"Is there any risk of brain damage?"; "Well, technically speaking, the operation *is* brain damage."
//"My brain? That's my second favorite organ!"
 
2012-01-17 01:11:31 PM  

Smackledorfer: You wanna know a real brain strange brain disorder? The one where people accept the really extreme disorders that affect 1 in a bazillion people as real, but then deny that a milder disorder like aspergers is real.

Its the equivalent of believing geniuses exist, retards exist, but the 70 to 90 and 110 to 130 IQ ranges are just figments of our imagination. That the 70-90 folks aren't less equipped for learning, but that they are just lazy and deserve derision. That the 110-130 folks aren't more equipped than average for intellectual success, but that it was all hard work and dedication.

A runner up to that is people turning their logic off and believing homosexuality is a choice.


People: they are farking weird.


I believe the disorder is called "American Southerner Syndrome" or ASS for short
 
2012-01-17 01:11:47 PM  

RexTalionis: Smackledorfer: You wanna know a real brain strange brain disorder? The one where people accept the really extreme disorders that affect 1 in a bazillion people as real, but then deny that a milder disorder like aspergers is real.

Its the equivalent of believing geniuses exist, retards exist, but the 70 to 90 and 110 to 130 IQ ranges are just figments of our imagination. That the 70-90 folks aren't less equipped for learning, but that they are just lazy and deserve derision. That the 110-130 folks aren't more equipped than average for intellectual success, but that it was all hard work and dedication.

A runner up to that is people turning their logic off and believing homosexuality is a choice.


People: they are farking weird.

There's also the group of people who always think their IQ is at least 130+, even with all evidence to the contrary.


The Downing effect is funny stuff. It also works the other way: individuals with very high IQs often underestimate their own basic skills. And it isn't just a modesty issue. And the Dunning-Kruger is even more amusing - dumb people are terrible at evaluating how dumb they really are (big surprise). The converse explains the high IQ Downing affect - smart people clearly see all of the places where they are useless at something, and assume they're below average because of it.
 
2012-01-17 01:18:43 PM  
I curse you with all of these at once, randomly turning on and off throughout the day
/sure to get sfired when you are stumbling like a drunk and shjooting off every thought that crosses your mind.
 
2012-01-17 01:38:32 PM  
FTFA: " One of the most famous cases of this was a man who simply repeated "Tono tono tono tono tono," to every question asked him. Although he could comprehend everything, he couldn't make his mouth say the words he needed to respond."

Omelette du fromage?
OMELETTE DU FROMAGE!
 
2012-01-17 01:48:13 PM  
5. Verbal Dysdecorum --- I think this is what my sister has. As a teen she had a bizarre accident where just before she missed a baton catch, the rubber tip fell off and about 4" of sharp, hollow metal embedded itself around her eye and in her brain. She was in a coma for a long time, never expected to wake up, but she did... as almost a completely normal, functioning person too.

Among other eccentricities, she has almost no filter. She will answer doors naked and explain (to complete strangers!) she's been on the toilet all day because she's 'on the rag', exclaim racial slurs at people of other races (not meaning to be racist - she just doesn't understand at the time it's not appropriate. Interestingly enough, this has resulted in a HUGE number of dare I say 'colorful' friends), laugh/cry for extremely inappropriate reasons, etc. If you ask her if those behaviors are appropriate, she'll say 'of course not', then get confused when you ask why she did them.

I've only really known her this way (it happened when I was fairly young), so I'm used to dealing with it, but I've always found it fascinating more than anything. Brains are weird, and cool.
 
2012-01-17 01:49:02 PM  

Smackledorfer: You wanna know a real brain strange brain disorder? The one where people accept the really extreme disorders that affect 1 in a bazillion people as real, but then deny that a milder disorder like aspergers is real.

Its the equivalent of believing geniuses exist, retards exist, but the 70 to 90 and 110 to 130 IQ ranges are just figments of our imagination. That the 70-90 folks aren't less equipped for learning, but that they are just lazy and deserve derision. That the 110-130 folks aren't more equipped than average for intellectual success, but that it was all hard work and dedication.

A runner up to that is people turning their logic off and believing homosexuality is a choice.


People: they are farking weird.


And the mirror image of that: people who think that depression is "all in the mind", as opposed to essentially being a form of brain damage. Somehow, people are happy to accept that some people are naturally happier than others, but faced with somebody at the extreme because their receptors don't respond properly to the hormones that normally signal pleasure rewards, suddenly it's the sufferer's own fault for not snapping out of it.
 
2012-01-17 01:51:33 PM  
Nobody's trolled by saying something like, "Why isn't religion on this list? yet...

/I am disappoint.
 
2012-01-17 02:11:11 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Alternatively, there was a person who injured the same portion of this brain, but in this case it always returned the most monumental level of joy and excitement it possibly could in response to EVERY input. This person went insane, eventually thinking they were God because everything in the world was just so spectacular and wondrous.


I've heard that being under the influence of a powerful hallucinogen can have that affect as well.
 
2012-01-17 02:15:04 PM  
There was the case of an interesting brain injury (I forget if it was due to illness or a physical injury) where the man lost his ability to sleep. So, he spent 30 years not sleeping, with no real ill-effects. At night, after his wife went to sleep, he would patrol the town as the town's safety patrol officer.
 
2012-01-17 02:30:07 PM  

RexTalionis: There was the case of an interesting brain injury (I forget if it was due to illness or a physical injury) where the man lost his ability to sleep. So, he spent 30 years not sleeping, with no real ill-effects. At night, after his wife went to sleep, he would patrol the town as the town's safety patrol officer.


WANT.
 
2012-01-17 02:54:48 PM  

safeforwork: 5. Verbal Dysdecorum --- I think this is what my sister has. As a teen she had a bizarre accident where just before she missed a baton catch, the rubber tip fell off and about 4" of sharp, hollow metal embedded itself around her eye and in her brain. She was in a coma for a long time, never expected to wake up, but she did... as almost a completely normal, functioning person too.

Among other eccentricities, she has almost no filter. She will answer doors naked and explain (to complete strangers!) she's been on the toilet all day because she's 'on the rag', exclaim racial slurs at people of other races (not meaning to be racist - she just doesn't understand at the time it's not appropriate. Interestingly enough, this has resulted in a HUGE number of dare I say 'colorful' friends), laugh/cry for extremely inappropriate reasons, etc. If you ask her if those behaviors are appropriate, she'll say 'of course not', then get confused when you ask why she did them.

I've only really known her this way (it happened when I was fairly young), so I'm used to dealing with it, but I've always found it fascinating more than anything. Brains are weird, and cool.


www.channel4.com
 
2012-01-17 03:14:40 PM  
The last understanding of the term is the most interesting. Patients can be said to be suffering from jargonaphasia when they incessantly use platitudes, cliches, and pleasantries to cover the fact that they're saying nothing.

This explains Lou Holtz.
 
2012-01-17 03:22:11 PM  

CCCarnie: FTFA: " One of the most famous cases of this was a man who simply repeated "Tono tono tono tono tono," to every question asked him. Although he could comprehend everything, he couldn't make his mouth say the words he needed to respond."

Hodor!
 
2012-01-17 04:00:05 PM  

Smackledorfer: You wanna know a real brain strange brain disorder? The one where people accept the really extreme disorders that affect 1 in a bazillion people as real, but then deny that a milder disorder like aspergers is real.

Its the equivalent of believing geniuses exist, retards exist, but the 70 to 90 and 110 to 130 IQ ranges are just figments of our imagination. That the 70-90 folks aren't less equipped for learning, but that they are just lazy and deserve derision. That the 110-130 folks aren't more equipped than average for intellectual success, but that it was all hard work and dedication.

A runner up to that is people turning their logic off and believing homosexuality is a choice.


People: they are farking weird.


So... you can easily accept that one set of behaviors is a mixture of choice and predisposition, but you turn that logic off when it comes to believing that homosexuality is a mixture of choice and predisposition?
 
2012-01-17 04:18:20 PM  
There's a very clearly understood brain disorder that makes people like Jersey Shore or Teen Mom.

It's called being a woman.
 
2012-01-17 04:35:16 PM  

RexTalionis: There was the case of an interesting brain injury (I forget if it was due to illness or a physical injury) where the man lost his ability to sleep. So, he spent 30 years not sleeping, with no real ill-effects. At night, after his wife went to sleep, he would patrol the town as the town's safety patrol officer.

img.getglue.com
 
2012-01-17 04:51:51 PM  

RexTalionis: There's also the group of people who always think their IQ is at least 130+, even with all evidence to the contrary.


Not that rare, then, since that's about half the posters on Fark.
 
2012-01-17 05:06:08 PM  
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2012-01-17 05:35:08 PM  

Smackledorfer: You wanna know a real brain strange brain disorder? The one where people accept the really extreme disorders that affect 1 in a bazillion people as real, but then deny that a milder disorder like aspergers is real.


People don't think Asperger's is real, because the symptoms those people exhibit are pretty broad in scope. Everyone shows symptoms of it. They don't deserve their own label. They're just autistic. Broad and general autism. Nothing special. That is if anything at all is wrong with them. Sometimes people are just farking weird, and that isn't even always a bad thing. They need to accept that. There was talk of removing Asperger's from the DSM-IV, and I tend to agree. They'd still get a diagnosis of autism if they really wanted to explain their weirdass behavior, but, again, sometimes people just need to accept the fact there is nothing wrong with them.

turbidum: There's a very clearly understood brain disorder that makes people like Jersey Shore or Teen Mom.

It's called being a woman.


There's gotta be some sort of disorder that makes people like god awful garbage such as the vast majority of reality television. It could be "Simple Minded Syndrome" where simple-minded people enjoy simple minded things. If not that, who knows. It's a mystery to me. To each their own. Whatever makes you happy, right?

/Subby
//psychology major
 
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2012-01-17 05:45:42 PM  

ArkAngel: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 402x600]


/came for this
//leaving satisfied
 
2012-01-17 05:47:27 PM  

ParagonComplex: People don't think Asperger's is real, because the symptoms those people exhibit are pretty broad in scope. Everyone shows symptoms of it. They don't deserve their own label. They're just autistic. Broad and general autism. Nothing special. That is if anything at all is wrong with them. Sometimes people are just farking weird, and that isn't even always a bad thing. They need to accept that. There was talk of removing Asperger's from the DSM-IV, and I tend to agree. They'd still get a diagnosis of autism if they really wanted to explain their weirdass behavior, but, again, sometimes people just need to accept the fact there is nothing wrong with them.


I think the Autistic spectrum is way too broad. A lot of the behaviors at the high functioning end of it just seem too normal. I took that Autistic Spectrum quotient test a while back when it was making the rounds, and according to it, I'm scored really high. But I think I'm fine.
 
2012-01-17 06:16:59 PM  

RexTalionis: ParagonComplex: People don't think Asperger's is real, because the symptoms those people exhibit are pretty broad in scope. Everyone shows symptoms of it. They don't deserve their own label. They're just autistic. Broad and general autism. Nothing special. That is if anything at all is wrong with them. Sometimes people are just farking weird, and that isn't even always a bad thing. They need to accept that. There was talk of removing Asperger's from the DSM-IV, and I tend to agree. They'd still get a diagnosis of autism if they really wanted to explain their weirdass behavior, but, again, sometimes people just need to accept the fact there is nothing wrong with them.

I think the Autistic spectrum is way too broad. A lot of the behaviors at the high functioning end of it just seem too normal. I took that Autistic Spectrum quotient test a while back when it was making the rounds, and according to it, I'm scored really high. But I think I'm fine.


Exactly. That's the whole problem. They really are fine more than likely. Everyone is a little socially awkward, and anyone can say something inappropriate. Being quirky doesn't make a person autistic. It just makes them human. There's something wrong with a society that feels the need to have a label for every single thing. They don't realize the damage actually having a label can have on a person and their behavior. Some will start using it as an excuse, exhibit more signs of that label, get down on themselves for thinking something is wrong with them. That's the pitfall.
 
2012-01-17 06:22:56 PM  

ParagonComplex: People don't think Asperger's is real, because the symptoms those people exhibit are pretty broad in scope. Everyone shows symptoms of it. They don't deserve their own label. They're just autistic. Broad and general autism. Nothing special.


Yeah, but no. Wrong in every possible way.

Evidence increasingly suggests that Asperger's is a distinct syndrome from general autism, affecting different areas of the brain. It's just that some of the high-level symptoms overlap with part of the autism spectrum. But there are a lot of very specific differences that you never see in people with autism.

On the other hand, there are two reasons people don't think Asperger's is real.

One is because a lot of middle-class parents appeal to Asperger's without any kind of professional diagnosis because they don't want to accept that their child is not as smart or popular as they would wish. (A generation ago it was dyslexia, and we were having exactly the same conversation, i.e. "is dyslexia on the rise, or is it just better diagnosed?", and before that it was... something, I forget what, but always something.) Anyway, this tends to make people skeptical of any claim of Asperger's, which by the way demonstrably runs in families.

The other is because they are smug pricks who think they know more about neuroscience than actual neuroscientists.
 
2012-01-17 07:17:00 PM  

Khellendros: RexTalionis: Smackledorfer: You wanna know a real brain strange brain disorder? The one where people accept the really extreme disorders that affect 1 in a bazillion people as real, but then deny that a milder disorder like aspergers is real.

Its the equivalent of believing geniuses exist, retards exist, but the 70 to 90 and 110 to 130 IQ ranges are just figments of our imagination. That the 70-90 folks aren't less equipped for learning, but that they are just lazy and deserve derision. That the 110-130 folks aren't more equipped than average for intellectual success, but that it was all hard work and dedication.

A runner up to that is people turning their logic off and believing homosexuality is a choice.


People: they are farking weird.

There's also the group of people who always think their IQ is at least 130+, even with all evidence to the contrary.

The Downing effect is funny stuff. It also works the other way: individuals with very high IQs often underestimate their own basic skills. And it isn't just a modesty issue. And the Dunning-Kruger is even more amusing - dumb people are terrible at evaluating how dumb they really are (big surprise). The converse explains the high IQ Downing affect - smart people clearly see all of the places where they are useless at something, and assume they're below average because of it.


So, in short, ignorance is bliss?
 
2012-01-17 07:26:45 PM  

czetie: ParagonComplex: People don't think Asperger's is real, because the symptoms those people exhibit are pretty broad in scope. Everyone shows symptoms of it. They don't deserve their own label. They're just autistic. Broad and general autism. Nothing special.

Yeah, but no. Wrong in every possible way.

Evidence increasingly suggests that Asperger's is a distinct syndrome from general autism, affecting different areas of the brain. It's just that some of the high-level symptoms overlap with part of the autism spectrum. But there are a lot of very specific differences that you never see in people with autism.

On the other hand, there are two reasons people don't think Asperger's is real.

One is because a lot of middle-class parents appeal to Asperger's without any kind of professional diagnosis because they don't want to accept that their child is not as smart or popular as they would wish. (A generation ago it was dyslexia, and we were having exactly the same conversation, i.e. "is dyslexia on the rise, or is it just better diagnosed?", and before that it was... something, I forget what, but always something.) Anyway, this tends to make people skeptical of any claim of Asperger's, which by the way demonstrably runs in families.

The other is because they are smug pricks who think they know more about neuroscience than actual neuroscientists.


I agree with your first reason. The second is possible, but I'd have to see where you're pulling all of this from. Enlighten me. I'm an open-minded person. Actually, Asperger's really is being removed from the DSM-IV. I knew there were talks, but it's actually happening. I guess there's some credence to what I said after all. Fake disorders are fake. Instead of Asperger's the kid is simply autistic or *gasp* nothing is wrong with the precious little snowflake at all. I think there's something obviously wrong with the kids, but it's nothing more than being "different" or perhaps a co morbidity with another disorder.

Link (new window)
Another (new window)
Ask Google for more.
 
2012-01-17 07:27:09 PM  

czetie: ParagonComplex: People don't think Asperger's is real, because the symptoms those people exhibit are pretty broad in scope. Everyone shows symptoms of it. They don't deserve their own label. They're just autistic. Broad and general autism. Nothing special.

Yeah, but no. Wrong in every possible way.

Evidence increasingly suggests that Asperger's is a distinct syndrome from general autism, affecting different areas of the brain. It's just that some of the high-level symptoms overlap with part of the autism spectrum. But there are a lot of very specific differences that you never see in people with autism.

On the other hand, there are two reasons people don't think Asperger's is real.

One is because a lot of middle-class parents appeal to Asperger's without any kind of professional diagnosis because they don't want to accept that their child is not as smart or popular as they would wish. (A generation ago it was dyslexia, and we were having exactly the same conversation, i.e. "is dyslexia on the rise, or is it just better diagnosed?", and before that it was... something, I forget what, but always something.) Anyway, this tends to make people skeptical of any claim of Asperger's, which by the way demonstrably runs in families.

The other is because they are smug pricks who think they know more about neuroscience than actual neuroscientists.



THIS! THIS! THIS!!!

This is Aspergers (new window)

This is autism (new window)\

I've worked with both in my previous career, a long time ago.
And no, these are not 'extreme' cases of either conditions. These are typical.
The proposed aspie-autistic continuum is worthless pop psychology. As ParagonComplex suggests, it's an excuse for deluded parents to explain why their precious snowflakes aren't as perfect and wonderful as they'd like them to be.
It's also a handy explanation for average people to dismiss smart people as somehow being defective.
Heck, just a few weeks ago, I had a friend who's known me since childhood tell me she believes I've got Aspergers. Why? I can do simple arithmetic inside my head (46*122=? stuff) and am comfortable programming computers. In her mind, she's intelligent and well-balanced, while I'm some kind of freak.
 
2012-01-17 07:36:46 PM  
Oops, I misinterpreted some of what Paragoncomplex was saying, based on the links he provided. Apologies.
 
2012-01-17 09:02:13 PM  

ParagonComplex: I agree with your first reason. The second is possible, but I'd have to see where you're pulling all of this from. Enlighten me. I'm an open-minded person. Actually, Asperger's really is being removed from the DSM-IV. I knew there were talks, but it's actually happening. I guess there's some credence to what I said after all. Fake disorders are fake. Instead of Asperger's the kid is simply autistic or *gasp* nothing is wrong with the precious little snowflake at all. I think there's something obviously wrong with the kids, but it's nothing more than being "different" or perhaps a co morbidity with another disorder.


removing the specific classification of aspergers is NOT the same as it being fake. Next time you are in the psych department stop by a professor who teaches abnormal psychology and ask them about it. So they want to call it a mild autism instead of Asperbers, which has been on the autism spectrum for quite a while anyways.

I know you played the 'its either autism or its bla blah snowflake' bit, so you can certainly fall back and claim you didn't mean to dismiss people who actually have a problem, but your post reads exactly like all the folk I was talking about in my Boobies in this thread: They'll believe someone is seriously farked up or someone is normal, and there is zero sympathy for anyone who might round up to normal, for lack of a better phrasing.

This is kind of funny in a way, because the very issues with the definition of Aspergers is that it is very hard to perfectly define disorders given how different individual people are and how much variance there is between them. Pick any page you want out of the DSM and you'll find that within a single diagnosis there is a huge difference between those who just barely qualify for any given diagnosis and those who are extreme within it.

My favorite psych professor when I was getting my psych degree had this to say 'if what someone does makes no sense and they aren't merely too stupid to understand that what they are doing doesn't benefit them, it is a brain failure of some kind and just as much of a problem for the individual as an identified diagnosable disorder'. Because when you get down to it, that is what psychological disorders really come down to: thoughts and behaviors that are unhealthy/not beneficial, but are repeated; inabilities to function well. Whether that is someone who fattens themselves up and swears up and down its an acceptable choice, or someone who lands in prison/jail from stupid choices.
 
2012-01-17 09:08:58 PM  

jonny_q: So... you can easily accept that one set of behaviors is a mixture of choice and predisposition, but you turn that logic off when it comes to believing that homosexuality is a mixture of choice and predisposition?


You cannot choose to be attracted to something. If you believe otherwise, I challenge you to jerk off Rush Limbaugh.
 
2012-01-17 09:11:04 PM  

Smackledorfer: jonny_q: So... you can easily accept that one set of behaviors is a mixture of choice and predisposition, but you turn that logic off when it comes to believing that homosexuality is a mixture of choice and predisposition?

You cannot choose to be attracted to something. If you believe otherwise, I challenge you to jerk off Rush Limbaugh.


That said, yes, the action itself is in part a choice. I could choose to only engage in homosexual sex despite being attracted to women and not men. That wouldn't make me a homosexual though.
 
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