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(The Daily Beast)   "My primary phone is the iPhone, I love the beauty of it. But I wish it did all the things my Android does, I really do." A) Gul Dukat? B) The Borg Queen? C) The Woz? D) Khan Noonien Singh? E) Lawrence Gorn?   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 181
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2012-01-16 08:01:02 PM  
Wozzup.

He's always been the one who put technology over marketing.

And I agree with him on this.
 
2012-01-16 08:06:02 PM  
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INVISIBLE SANDWICH
 
2012-01-16 08:16:48 PM  
Well, that went over well.
 
2012-01-16 08:19:31 PM  
FTFA: he likes the Motorola Droid Razr better

Wow. I guess I *really* agree with him. Fookin' love my Razr.

Oh, and:

dickfreckle:

www.thedailybeast.com

INVISIBLE SANDWICH
 
2012-01-16 08:27:53 PM  
I picked up the galaxy nexus on Friday. Holy shait is that an awesome phone. Android rocks.
 
2012-01-16 08:57:07 PM  
Anyone ever read Fortune Tech? Because I'm looking now and 2 of the 3 articles that are on my Pulse app are about Apple. Oops, I didn't click that article, make that 3 of 3.
 
2012-01-16 09:02:42 PM  

swaniefrmreddeer: I picked up the galaxy nexus on Friday. Holy shait is that an awesome phone. Android rocks.


Are you on Verizon?
 
2012-01-16 09:06:59 PM  
I have a Droid X as my personnel cell phone through VZW. Rumor has it that my company is is switching from Sprint Blackberry's to the VZW iPhone 4s.

I got my Droid when the company went to Sprint. I went to VZW specifically to get an iPhone and walked out with a Droid after using it in the store. I found it to be a much better device and a far greater selection of free, usefull apps than the iPhone.

While I am really happy to drop the Sprint Blackberry I am not as excited as I once would have been to be getting an iPhone. I am, however, elated to be switching from Sprint to VZW!

I know, first world problems right?
 
2012-01-16 09:08:39 PM  
so I went to the article expecting a nice list of all the things which droid can do today which the iphone can not do today.
YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
crickets
no list
lots of blattering by a rich nobody

and by list of things, I mean of things which you actually use
battery last longer? meh
hack the os? meh

give me 1-5 apps or features which are not available on one or the other ...
 
2012-01-16 09:26:59 PM  
Ah, the eternal Android/iOS debate!

Look, I use Android for primarily one reason: freedom. It's the same reason I use Windows and often Ubuntu. This is especially true of hardware. Right now I can pick from an excellent variety of handsets that address specific needs, such as a tactile keyboard (or not), larger screen, a certain budget, etc. The iPhone has one model that is updated once annually, and for some reason it's like chum in the water for millions of fans. I don't get it.

I also like the seemingly simple things that later prove invaluable - such as being able to double the memory with a 16gb card fpr $19 at Amazon.

As for the OSs themselves, frankly I don't care because I don't dig into my phone the way I dig into my PC. So in this regard Apple's "walled garden" doesn't really bother me like it did on the MBP I had for about 6 months ("bothered" is an understatement - I felt like the thing was babysitting me). So it's basically all about hardware, and in that respect only Android delivers any sort of freedom to buy what I want instead of what some executive decides I can have.

/Samsung Galaxy S II
//yes, that phone really does kick that much ass

Ed Finnerty: Oh, and:


Lol, thanks, but I gave up once I realized the images aren't separate. Wasn't that funny anyway.
 
2012-01-16 09:43:16 PM  
Headline:

Even Woz Thinks the Android Bests the iPhone

Article:

Woz says he still thinks Apple's iPhone is the best overall smartphone

good job everyone, I think we're done here.
 
2012-01-16 09:49:23 PM  
Ugh. I have an HTC Aria. And. It. Suuuuuuucccckkkkkkkks! It does not respond quickly to commands. the phone cuts in and out, and the apps frequently crash. I will NEVER buy another Android phone. And the camera doesn't work. At all.

Never.
 
2012-01-16 09:52:23 PM  
I just got our 3rd iPod4 replacement in a year. The last one kept locking up, even with a factory restore and no extra software on it (apple still kept telling me it was some software we installed). Anyway, the way it locked, we had to wait for the battery to drain and then charge it up to reboot it. Do you know what would have really help in troubleshooting this issue (aside from access to the logs only Apple can see), is a removable farking battery.
 
2012-01-16 09:55:12 PM  
Android and iPhone strengths are also their weaknesses.
The openness of Android means you have more customization options. It also means not all software will work as seamlessly.
The locked down iPhone means it will work well, but your options are limited - you have to learn to use it the way it wants to be used.

As for the app stores, the same is true.
Android's strength is apps don't have to go through all the Apple approval process and it's much easier to get apps on the market.
Apple's strength is all apps go through the Apple approval process and it's much harder to get malicious apps on the market.
 
2012-01-16 09:55:18 PM  

BorgiaGinz: Ugh. I have an HTC Aria. And. It. Suuuuuuucccckkkkkkkks! It does not respond quickly to commands. the phone cuts in and out, and the apps frequently crash. I will NEVER buy another Android phone. And the camera doesn't work. At all.

Never.


Not that it is an excuse, but is likley due to the crapware that the carriers (and sometimes the handset manufacturers) put on it, to you know, value enhance your phone experience. How Apple has strong armed the carrier into accepting updates and not loading crapware is amazing. I wish the other phone and OS manufacturers could do that with their devices. Sorry Sprint, but I really, really don't need that damn Nascar app on my Evo.
 
2012-01-16 09:56:22 PM  

BorgiaGinz: Ugh. I have an HTC Aria. And. It. Suuuuuuucccckkkkkkkks! It does not respond quickly to commands. the phone cuts in and out, and the apps frequently crash. I will NEVER buy another Android phone. And the camera doesn't work. At all.

Never.


You bought a cheap POS phone, and you're surprised it has issues. You would be having the same complaints if you bought an iphone 3gs instead of a 4...
 
2012-01-16 09:58:37 PM  
Freaking smartphones all look the same to me these days. Let me find the carrier that gives me the best deal and I'll spend $199 with a two year contract and get whichever one looks the nicest when I'm ready to get one.

However, after a couple years with one type...I'm assuming you better be happy with the new version lest you throw away lots of money on apps you purchased and specialized design that just doesn't transfer. Every phone you look at has positives and negatives when stacked up against a competitor (if you stick to analyzing the top end phones that come out every 4-6 months).

I have noticed that I will need to spend a little extra money when I get my next phone in a few months as 16GB isn't nearly enough. I'm getting close to the end of the rope with custom icons and little tweaks. Guess I'll have to take some music off.
 
2012-01-16 10:02:18 PM  

dickfreckle: /Samsung Galaxy S II
//yes, that phone really does kick that much ass


Switched from iPhones to this phone last year.
Sweet Jebuz, was that a good move.
 
2012-01-16 10:03:53 PM  
So android makes for a better iPod touch?
 
2012-01-16 10:03:59 PM  
Also, anyone that argues definitively as though one type is better than another is a nutjob and not fit for public interaction.

When I was getting a new phone a couple years ago, it was a week before the new iPhone came out and...I believe...I was a month or two before the next big droid came out. From what I remember, the droids started blowing up at the end of 2010 with phones that were just kickass.

A friend ended up going droid as his contract was up 4 months after mine. We've both used each other's phone and both of us reached the same conclusion, "they're the same" and we both liked things the other one did.

meh
 
2012-01-16 10:07:00 PM  
F) Bobba Fett
 
2012-01-16 10:08:17 PM  
I regret buying my cheap ass phone, and have t-mobile, and a sidekick 4g (I KNOW). The thing Ive found it best for since swype is so much faster than the keyboard is playing nintendo games. And I though Contra was hard before I played it on a phone.
 
2012-01-16 10:08:20 PM  

s2s2s2: So android makes for a better iPod touch?


Yeah, I know. Just wish I could pull out the damn battery. Apple almost did not replace this last one, as I was 4 days out of warranty. Of course I had been in out of the store for the past 6 weeks for the same problem. If we did not get a replacement, the plan was to replace the ipod with my Evo (with no service) when I get my next phone.
 
2012-01-16 10:12:02 PM  
Android means freedom... for the phone companies. For you? Heh, don't be ridiculous.
 
2012-01-16 10:13:13 PM  
Love my Samsung Epic 4g.

Both systems have their fans. If you just want to get a phone and do the basics, and not customize it, go with Apple.

If you want a phone that you can customize to the way YOU want it to work, get an Android device. Samsung Galaxy phones and the Nexus S are tops.
 
2012-01-16 10:15:07 PM  

adjmcloon: If you want a phone that you can customize to the way YOU want it to work, get an Android device.


I don't understand this.

With either phone, you're going to be rooting and jailbreaking to truly customize it, yes?
 
2012-01-16 10:16:01 PM  
I have been saying that for years about the open platform thing, and Apple people treat me like I am the enemy. (Even though I like Apple on the whole.)

After testing it on my iPhone, I get the prime number thing with no problem but he is correct about the lakes.
 
2012-01-16 10:17:08 PM  

adjmcloon: Both systems have their fans. If you just want to get a phone and do the basics, and not customize it, go with Apple.


Or the Android. You don't have to customize them.
 
2012-01-16 10:19:28 PM  

Ed Finnerty: Wozzup.

He's always been the one who put technology over marketing.

And I agree with him on this.



Um, nice empty statement you have there as he valued usability over either.
 
2012-01-16 10:19:55 PM  
I'll still never get an Apple product.
 
2012-01-16 10:25:05 PM  
Worse, a lot of the time Siri says it can't make a connection to the back-end servers that power the system. "With the iPhone 4 I could press a button and call my wife. Now on the 4S I can only do that when Siri can connect over the Internet. But many times it can't connect. I've never had Android come back and say, 'I can't connect over the Internet.'"

So Siri has to connect to the net so he can press a button? Doesn't make much sense to me.
 
2012-01-16 10:38:33 PM  
the woz had always been a hacker, he's got great opinions about tech for the advanced user but never for the every man
 
2012-01-16 10:47:25 PM  

BorgiaGinz: Ugh. I have an HTC Aria. And. It. Suuuuuuucccckkkkkkkks! It does not respond quickly to commands. the phone cuts in and out, and the apps frequently crash. I will NEVER buy another Android phone. And the camera doesn't work. At all.

Never.


That's not a good android phone. A lot of companies put out shiatty android phones. Try the HTC Thunderbolt. I have it and love it
 
2012-01-16 10:47:38 PM  

wingnut396: BorgiaGinz: Ugh. I have an HTC Aria. And. It. Suuuuuuucccckkkkkkkks! It does not respond quickly to commands. the phone cuts in and out, and the apps frequently crash. I will NEVER buy another Android phone. And the camera doesn't work. At all.

Never.

Not that it is an excuse, but is likley due to the crapware that the carriers (and sometimes the handset manufacturers) put on it, to you know, value enhance your phone experience. How Apple has strong armed the carrier into accepting updates and not loading crapware is amazing. I wish the other phone and OS manufacturers could do that with their devices. Sorry Sprint, but I really, really don't need that damn Nascar app on my Evo.


That very likely is the case. I also have an HTC Aria, with a crapware-free custom rom loaded. It doesn't suffer from any of those problems.
 
2012-01-16 10:50:52 PM  

EasyWind: I have a Droid X as my personnel cell phone through VZW. Rumor has it that my company is is switching from Sprint Blackberry's to the VZW iPhone 4s.

I got my Droid when the company went to Sprint. I went to VZW specifically to get an iPhone and walked out with a Droid after using it in the store. I found it to be a much better device and a far greater selection of free, usefull apps than the iPhone.

While I am really happy to drop the Sprint Blackberry I am not as excited as I once would have been to be getting an iPhone. I am, however, elated to be switching from Sprint to VZW!

I know, first world problems right?


What? You're elated to switch FROM Sprint TO Verizon? I would think that Sprint has now leapfrogged over Verizon by now, but I guess your mileage may vary by region. I have Sprint here in SF and it is fantastic. Before, I had Verizon.
 
2012-01-16 10:53:12 PM  
The wolfram alpha programs don't exist on Android, that makes me sad, other then that, no Im happy to have my android.... Motoblur kinda bites tho.
 
2012-01-16 10:57:40 PM  
Lawrence Gorn?
images4.wikia.nocookie.net

I've been a Trek fan all my life, and I never knew he had a first name.
 
2012-01-16 10:58:51 PM  
This means Android is great for people who understand computers as well as Woz.
 
2012-01-16 10:59:53 PM  

Assimilate This: Lawrence Gorn?
[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 180x266]

I've been a Trek fan all my life, and I never knew he had a first name.


he goes by 'larry.'
 
2012-01-16 11:11:35 PM  

dababler: The wolfram alpha programs don't exist on Android, that makes me sad, other then that, no Im happy to have my android.... Motoblur kinda bites tho.


Huh? I'm looking at it in the Android Market right now.
 
2012-01-16 11:11:49 PM  

Ed Finnerty: Wozzup.

He's always been the one who put technology over marketing.

And I agree with him on this.


He suffered a head injury years ago.
He has not been relevant to Apple in what, 20+ years?
Why do people listen to anything he says?
Except for him babbling about lasers and his early years at Apple.
 
2012-01-16 11:12:59 PM  

bulldg4life: adjmcloon: If you want a phone that you can customize to the way YOU want it to work, get an Android device.

I don't understand this.

With either phone, you're going to be rooting and jailbreaking to truly customize it, yes?


Nah. To really change the interface of the iPhone or really any of its major functionality, you have to jailbreak it. You can use difference launchers with Android that completely change the look of it, and can basically tweak what you want. Rooting is really just for applications that require, well, root access, e.g., backup software, I believe that CarrierIQ scanner thingy, etc. The big similarity between Android and iOS when it comes to jailbreaking is actually third party Apps; many phones just require you to check a box allowing you to install apps from anywhere (as opposed to the Market), but some don't have it enabled. My phone, for instance, initially didn't allow me to download third party apps until a couple updates (though, like an iPhone, there are almost always workarounds).

But to stop my rambling - you can tweak much, much more on an Android phone that is non-root and locked out of third party apps than you can a non-jailbroken iPhone.
 
2012-01-16 11:17:02 PM  

Nem Wan: This means Android is great for people who understand computers as well as Woz.


s2s2s2: So android makes for a better iPod touch?


I think so. My wife got me a Samsung galaxy player 4.0 for christmas and it beats the hell out of her (admittedly 2.5 years old) iPod touch.

Yeah we're both too cheap (and always close to wifi) to have smartphones.
 
2012-01-16 11:18:12 PM  

Dr J Zoidberg: BorgiaGinz: Ugh. I have an HTC Aria. And. It. Suuuuuuucccckkkkkkkks! It does not respond quickly to commands. the phone cuts in and out, and the apps frequently crash. I will NEVER buy another Android phone. And the camera doesn't work. At all.

Never.

That's not a good android phone. A lot of companies put out shiatty android phones. Try the HTC Thunderbolt. I have it and love it


I've also got a T-bolt. There are better Androids out there but whatever you get, Android or Apple or whoever, I'll say definitely get 4G. My T-bolt is like my Lil Nash Rambler, blowing past the bigger, fancier more luxurious phones while still in second gear. Your apps run more smoothly? Enjoy that while I steam the NFL in real time with no buffering. You've got battery life? Batteries are nine bucks and weigh 40 grams and I give my cable company grief because their internet is slower than VZW is wirelessly.
 
2012-01-16 11:23:06 PM  
and people who are just scared of computers altogether and don't want to use them.
 
2012-01-16 11:40:44 PM  
I wish my iPhone could stay at the same version of iOS that it had when I purchased it unless I root it, just like Android.
 
2012-01-16 11:43:01 PM  

ColonelSanders33: Headline:

Even Woz Thinks the Android Bests the iPhone

Article:

Woz says he still thinks Apple's iPhone is the best overall smartphone

good job everyone, I think we're done here.


FTFA:"For that kind of person who is scared of complexity, well, here's a phone that is simple to use and does what you need it to do,"

He's basically saying its best for retards.
 
2012-01-16 11:51:00 PM  
Still using my Razr from like 5 years ago. Once I bought a new battery last year, I just haven't had a compelling reason to upgrade. Until now. We are negotiating to move our business to larger digs and I don't want to pay for a landline with broadband. Would rather invest in smarter technology that goes with us when we're out of the office, so I'm thinking Verizon's Droid Razr with an access point to keep in the shop. Thoughts?
 
2012-01-16 11:59:10 PM  

neuroflare: swype is so much faster


Swype on an iPhone? Apple users would think Steve Jobs had hung the moon.
If they'd fix the short word problem, it would be brilliant!
 
2012-01-17 12:01:51 AM  
Google Maps on my HTC Evo has icons showing the bus stops in my town. Tap it and I get the next four departure times for each bus line there. Very handy for me,I get to pick the best line.

Not so on the Google Maps iPhone app,no schedules. I have to actually set a destination and it only gives the bus line departure for that route.

That is a small thing but close to being a deal-breaker.
 
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