Pretty sure they don't have any other QBs on the 2012 roster... so yeah.

I met this dude yesterday who never watched pro football until this season and only because of Tim Tebow. I'm still in disbelief. He was also a d-bag.

dletter: To be serious though... this was probably their best course of action at this point.

Whatever your opinion of Tebow is, you have to admit he is ratings/income gold for the Broncos right now, so, as some other analysts have said... you basically ride him until he implodes upon himself or actually becomes a decent passer, and build more good players around him. If he does implode, hopefully you've built enough of a team around him you can pick up another QB to come in and be the starter then.

Plus Elway can now focus on things that are bigger problems for them right now rather than get asked if he's made up his mind daily.

dletter: To be serious though... this was probably their best course of action at this point.

Whatever your opinion of Tebow is, you have to admit he is ratings/income gold for the Broncos right now, so, as some other analysts have said... you basically ride him until he implodes upon himself or actually becomes a decent passer, and build more good players around him. If he does implode, hopefully you've built enough of a team around him you can pick up another QB to come in and be the starter then.

There's no other QBs on the roster for next year (Quinn is a FA). So it's not like you'll gain anything by saying he isn't the starter.

dletter: To be serious though... this was probably their best course of action at this point.

Whatever your opinion of Tebow is, you have to admit he is ratings/income gold for the Broncos right now, so, as some other analysts have said... you basically ride him until he implodes upon himself or actually becomes a decent passer, and build more good players around him. If he does implode, hopefully you've built enough of a team around him you can pick up another QB to come in and be the starter then.

This is just begging for that rain(Te)bow centaur pic thingy that somebody posted the other day. Y'know, just because. :P

becksellent: dletter: To be serious though... this was probably their best course of action at this point.

Whatever your opinion of Tebow is, you have to admit he is ratings/income gold for the Broncos right now, so, as some other analysts have said... you basically ride him until he implodes upon himself or actually becomes a decent passer, and build more good players around him. If he does implode, hopefully you've built enough of a team around him you can pick up another QB to come in and be the starter then.

This is just begging for that rain(Te)bow centaur pic thingy that somebody posted the other day. Y'know, just because. :P

If you go and run a GIS on Tebow Centaur, an AWFUL lot of Tebow Centaur picks pop up. There are people with Tebow Centaur TATTOOS, ffs. Am I missing something here?

Bunny Deville: becksellent: dletter: To be serious though... this was probably their best course of action at this point.

Whatever your opinion of Tebow is, you have to admit he is ratings/income gold for the Broncos right now, so, as some other analysts have said... you basically ride him until he implodes upon himself or actually becomes a decent passer, and build more good players around him. If he does implode, hopefully you've built enough of a team around him you can pick up another QB to come in and be the starter then.

This is just begging for that rain(Te)bow centaur pic thingy that somebody posted the other day. Y'know, just because. :P

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Thanks Bunny, knew I could count on you. ;)

Bunny Deville: If you go and run a GIS on Tebow Centaur, an AWFUL lot of Tebow Centaur picks pop up. There are people with Tebow Centaur TATTOOS, ffs. Am I missing something here?

I guess 'cause he plays for the Broncos, and broncos are horses, and centaurs are kinda horses too? Or...actually, you know what, I have no freakin' idea. *shrugs* People are weird.

/good thing all of us posting on Fark are totally normal, amirite? :P

I can't wait for him to take an arrow in the knee.

vudukungfu: I can't wait for him to take an arrow in the knee.

You know the Packers used to be perfect until they took an Arrowhead stadium in the knee.

Broncos are sticking with the option it sounds like... this could be interesting. They're gonna have to build the entire draft around Tebow.

vudukungfu: I can't wait for him to take an arrow in the knee.

Drink.

vudukungfu: I can't wait for him to take an arrow in the knee.

Best comment I've seen in a Tebow thread, ever.

dletter: you basically ride him until he implodes upon himself or actually becomes a decent passer, and build more good players around him. If he does implode, hopefully you've built enough of a team around him you can pick up another QB to come in and be the starter then.

The problem with this brilliant plan is that you have to run a spread offense to play to Tebow's strengths. So what do you do? Draft 'spread' players, big bruisers who block well? Or do you draft 'normal' players who then don't perform well in the spread offense? In either case, you're setting yourself up for some serious trouble.

Shaggy_C: dletter: you basically ride him until he implodes upon himself or actually becomes a decent passer, and build more good players around him. If he does implode, hopefully you've built enough of a team around him you can pick up another QB to come in and be the starter then.

The problem with this brilliant plan is that you have to run a spread offense to play to Tebow's strengths. So what do you do? Draft 'spread' players, big bruisers who block well? Or do you draft 'normal' players who then don't perform well in the spread offense? In either case, you're setting yourself up for some serious trouble.

Good players will be good in any offense. They already have two young receivers with talent and the offensive line isn't terrible. Their biggest needs on offense are a TE and a quality RB. And if Tebow becomes a better passer the Broncos won't have to run a spread offense - although they might do it anyway because it would be that much more successful. Not sure why you think that keeping Tebow as the QB after his 2011 season is a bad idea.

Starter going into camp is not necessarily the starter coming out of camp.

He's gonna get "coached".

That sound you hear is Skip Bayless jerking off onto a Tebow SI issue.

So they, along with the rest of the AFC West, get the AFC North and NFC South. They also get New England and Baltimore too. It's going to be fun watching them go 6-10.

/Along with the rest of the division.

Really I'm Black: wait tebow is a running back? i thought he was the thrower position.

That's the joke

/subby

Ken VeryBigLiar: So they, along with the rest of the AFC West, get the AFC North and NFC South. They also get New England and Baltimore too. It's going to be fun watching them go 6-10.

So they get the AFC North and Baltimore? Uh oh.

Shaggy_C: The problem with this brilliant plan is that you have to run a spread offense to play to Tebow's strengths.

I imagine the gameplan is to work Tebow like a slave this offseason in order to "migrate" the offense they currently run into something resembling a normal offense.

Assuming Tebow learns to get rid of the ball quicker, read through his progressions and the defense better, improve his footwork, etc, they can still use his physical tools and keep variants of the zone read as a major function their running game, but also be prepared to throw the ball 25-30 times a game. Tebow's passing game needs work, but they've honestly coddled and protected him more than they really needed to so far. Even now I think I can trust him to run more playaction rollouts with the first read being deep, second shallow, and third option being "F*ck it, take off and run", but instead they ran McGahee into the ground and probably took five years not only off his career, but his damn life, this season.

What I'd kind of like to see:

Tebow as a RB with a more competent but still athletic QB in the backfield with him. The amount of crazy wild-cat, flea-flicker, draw, screen, option, whatever trick plays would be highly entertaining. If Tebow can catch, that's even better. I think with an athletic offensive line and maybe a big TE and crushing FB you could have a pretty potent quick passing game/option offense.

/Ravens fan
//Try it on someone elses team...

Von Miller

Killer Cars: Even now I think I can trust him to run more playaction rollouts with the first read being deep, second shallow, and third option being "F*ck it, take off and run", but instead they ran McGahee into the ground and probably took five years not only off his career, but his damn life, this season.

Willis McGahe started 15 games this season. He ran the ball 249 times. That's 16.6 carries a game. That is considered running him into the ground?

St. Eway said he would help Tebow read through his progressions, the defense better and improve his footwork this offseason. He will not mess with his throwing motion.

Broncos will take the best D lineman or safety available in the first and take a QB in the second. Book it.

Broncos will face a very tough schedule

The other 3 first place teams will be very strong again next year
Pittsburgh and Cincinnati will be tough
Atlanta,NO and Cam 2.0 will be tough

and for conference games:
Kansa City will be much better if they don't lose a bunch of their best players to injury again
San Diego will unpredictably fluctuate between awesome and asinine but will probably see a bounce back season from Rivers
and the Raiders will use their stockpile of draft picks to inject a lot of youth , talent and energy into their lineup


// sorry raider fans, sometimes a sort of petty malevolence infects my spirit

uofacats2004: Willis McGahe started 15 games this season. He ran the ball 249 times. That's 16.6 carries a game. That is considered running him into the ground?

For a guy who's never been able to stay healthy for long periods of time (not his fault, just sh*t luck), it's too much. Fox even said so in his "other" announcement today (in reference to him having over 20 carries in a game six time this year).

Part of it was necessity since Moreno had an ACL tear.

mialynneb: That sound you hear is Skip Bayless jerking off onto a Tebow SI issue.

I caught a bit of the "Is Tebow a Bust" segment and nearly punched my computer screen. I have never hated a man I've never met as much as him.

uofacats2004: Ken VeryBigLiar: So they, along with the rest of the AFC West, get the AFC North and NFC South. They also get New England and Baltimore too. It's going to be fun watching them go 6-10.

So they get the AFC North and Baltimore? Uh oh.

Oops brain fart, meant to type Houston. The division will still be a trainwreck.

Good move, now Elway doesn't have to deal with over9000 WILL TEBOW START ELWAY, ELWAY WILL TEBOW START, ARE YOU STARTING TEBOW, ARE YOU LOOKING TO REPLACE TEBOW IN THE DRAFT? WILL YOU TRADE TEBOW etc questions and just focus on every other position on the team.

Important needs are shoring up the D a little, at good tight end(Could you imagine that red zone offense with a big bruising TE added in?), an RB(McGahee is too old to be counted on to be good next year, Moreno is not the answer) and maybe a bit of O-Line. Going to be rough given their schedule, but Norv Turner is still at the Chargers so unless the Raiders keep Campbell(Palmer will give away the division next year) and the Chefs improve all around(They could be scary next year w/ Charles back), the Broncos have as good a chance as any to win the division.

Here's hoping Tebow improves that completion % and becomes their QB.

Killer Cars: uofacats2004: Willis McGahe started 15 games this season. He ran the ball 249 times. That's 16.6 carries a game. That is considered running him into the ground?

For a guy who's never been able to stay healthy for long periods of time (not his fault, just sh*t luck), it's too much. Fox even said so in his "other" announcement today (in reference to him having over 20 carries in a game six time this year).

Part of it was necessity since Moreno had an ACL tear.

While I agree that he wouldn't have run so much this year with Knowshow going down, I don't think they had any other option really. Ball had some nice showings when he did run it, but McGahee was the only real option and he had to be the guy with the ball.
As a 30 year old RB, it's not like McGahee has a bunch of years left in him. But he was by far the most reliable RB the Broncos had, and it would make no sense to not use him when you need a play made. I don't think 17 carries a game would be "running him into the ground."
Just my opinion.

Where's Brian Griese when you need him?

UNC_Samurai: Where's Brian Griese when you need him?

in the radio booth doing color for kmao

Killer Cars: Shaggy_C: The problem with this brilliant plan is that you have to run a spread offense to play to Tebow's strengths.

I imagine the gameplan is to work Tebow like a slave this offseason in order to "migrate" the offense they currently run into something resembling a normal offense.

Assuming Tebow learns to get rid of the ball quicker, read through his progressions and the defense better, improve his footwork, etc, they can still use his physical tools and keep variants of the zone read as a major function their running game, but also be prepared to throw the ball 25-30 times a game. Tebow's passing game needs work, but they've honestly coddled and protected him more than they really needed to so far. Even now I think I can trust him to run more playaction rollouts with the first read being deep, second shallow, and third option being "F*ck it, take off and run", but instead they ran McGahee into the ground and probably took five years not only off his career, but his damn life, this season.

So basically, if Tebow can become a legitimate NFL QB, the Broncos will have success next season? Good luck with that.

uofacats2004: Killer Cars: uofacats2004: Willis McGahe started 15 games this season. He ran the ball 249 times. That's 16.6 carries a game. That is considered running him into the ground?

For a guy who's never been able to stay healthy for long periods of time (not his fault, just sh*t luck), it's too much. Fox even said so in his "other" announcement today (in reference to him having over 20 carries in a game six time this year).

Part of it was necessity since Moreno had an ACL tear.

While I agree that he wouldn't have run so much this year with Knowshow going down, I don't think they had any other option really. Ball had some nice showings when he did run it, but McGahee was the only real option and he had to be the guy with the ball.
As a 30 year old RB, it's not like McGahee has a bunch of years left in him. But he was by far the most reliable RB the Broncos had, and it would make no sense to not use him when you need a play made. I don't think 17 carries a game would be "running him into the ground."
Just my opinion.

RBs tend to start wearing down once they have about 1500 carries or so in the league. Not a strict rule but a pretty accurate rule of thumb. McGahee clocks in with over 1700. Unless he transitions to being more of a 3rd down back (blocking/catching) and/or is an uncommon physical specimen, his production is going to fall off a cliff sometime in the near future. The one thing he has going for him is that he doesn't have a high number of touches per season.

AnEvilGuest: // sorry raider fans, sometimes a sort of petty malevolence infects my spirit

Raiders are going nowhere next year. They fired Hue Jackson which is a huge mistake. Another new head coach another new scheme a new GM and another rebuilding year. Im a Raiders fan and the best thing I can hope for is a Cleveland or Miami type year where the Raiders spoil some mediocre teams' seasons and go 6 and 10.

Dammit. Best case scenario is a Cincinnati type year where the Raiders accidentally lurch into the playoffs and are crushed. I'll still root for the Raiders of course but my expectations are as low as they have ever been.

mikaloyd: AnEvilGuest: // sorry raider fans, sometimes a sort of petty malevolence infects my spirit

Raiders are going nowhere next year. They fired Hue Jackson which is a huge mistake. Another new head coach another new scheme a new GM and another rebuilding year. Im a Raiders fan and the best thing I can hope for is a Cleveland or Miami type year where the Raiders spoil some mediocre teams' seasons and go 6 and 10.

Dammit. Best case scenario is a Cincinnati type year where the Raiders accidentally lurch into the playoffs and are crushed. I'll still root for the Raiders of course but my expectations are as low as they have ever been.

AFC West isn't exactly going to be a juggernaught next year. KC is going to have a new coach and new system. Denver is either going to be retooling their offense, which is limited in its own right, or going forward with the same one (bad idea). Chargers still have Norv Turner and AJ Smith. It looks like it's going to be 4 teams rolling between 6-10 and 9-7........again.

redmid17: mikaloyd: AnEvilGuest: // sorry raider fans, sometimes a sort of petty malevolence infects my spirit

Raiders are going nowhere next year. They fired Hue Jackson which is a huge mistake. Another new head coach another new scheme a new GM and another rebuilding year. Im a Raiders fan and the best thing I can hope for is a Cleveland or Miami type year where the Raiders spoil some mediocre teams' seasons and go 6 and 10.

Dammit. Best case scenario is a Cincinnati type year where the Raiders accidentally lurch into the playoffs and are crushed. I'll still root for the Raiders of course but my expectations are as low as they have ever been.

AFC West isn't exactly going to be a juggernaught next year. KC is going to have a new coach and new system. Denver is either going to be retooling their offense, which is limited in its own right, or going forward with the same one (bad idea). Chargers still have Norv Turner and AJ Smith. It looks like it's going to be 4 teams rolling between 6-10 and 9-7........again.

IMO it all depends on if they keep Palmer or Campbell.

Palmer = No AFC West
Campbell = Good chance at AFC West

Pratty: redmid17: mikaloyd: AnEvilGuest: // sorry raider fans, sometimes a sort of petty malevolence infects my spirit

Raiders are going nowhere next year. They fired Hue Jackson which is a huge mistake. Another new head coach another new scheme a new GM and another rebuilding year. Im a Raiders fan and the best thing I can hope for is a Cleveland or Miami type year where the Raiders spoil some mediocre teams' seasons and go 6 and 10.

Dammit. Best case scenario is a Cincinnati type year where the Raiders accidentally lurch into the playoffs and are crushed. I'll still root for the Raiders of course but my expectations are as low as they have ever been.

AFC West isn't exactly going to be a juggernaught next year. KC is going to have a new coach and new system. Denver is either going to be retooling their offense, which is limited in its own right, or going forward with the same one (bad idea). Chargers still have Norv Turner and AJ Smith. It looks like it's going to be 4 teams rolling between 6-10 and 9-7........again.

IMO it all depends on if they keep Palmer or Campbell.

Palmer = No AFC West
Campbell = Good chance at AFC West

Yeah he was pretty streaky all year. Week to week would bring way different results. Campbell wasn't exactly the bee's knees either. If you take into account Palmer was working into an offense with no reps, tons of rust, and a cursory knowledge of the offense (said he knew 15 plays the first week and no names), his season wasn't that bad. Then again, for two first round picks you'd think it be much better.