What company owns these pipelines?

Where's my broker? Who has a match?

Why aren't we running more vehicles on this stuff?

I can haz heat?

Well, that would raise prices. Hmmm...

Natural gas prices are extremely low.

I guess my gas company didn't get the memo.

I wonder if subby understands that they can close the valve at the wellhead...

I can tell what the price of NG is doing by the number of "LOCK IN YOUR NATURAL GAS RATES NOW!!!!!! ZOMGBBQ!!!!!" mailings I get in a month.

Provided you are not currently locked in the number of mailings is inversely proportional to the direction of NG prices.

Two winters ago (maybe it was three, I'm getting old and forgetful) the lock in rate was $12.xx./MCF - I think they're paying about $2/mcf right now - with all the add ons they can come up with I think my rate is somewhere below $4/mcf.

The problem with natural gas is that, historically, it's been wildly variable on price:


Every 2-3 years, it'll go from $~2 to >$12 a MCF. If you bought a NG furnace in 2002, the cost of heat your home increased nearly 4-fold by 2006 - and now it's back to 2002 prices. As soon as we open up a couple NG exporting terminals in US, expect those prices to skyrocket again.

GaryPDX: Runs_With_Scissors_: GaryPDX: dryknife: Why aren't we running more vehicles on this stuff?

Becuase it doesn't fit the left's electric cars GreenTM agenda. And it's dinosaur farts.

God, you're a cock.

It's never too early for you the threadshiate is it?

It's true. Natural Gas is a fossil fuel. Fossil Fuels are taboo to the Greenies on the left. Vehicles can easily be converted to using NG or LNG. You can even fill your tanks at home if you have NG service at home. It's THE cleanest fossil fuel there is and America has plenty of it.

Why isn't it being used? It's a fossil fuel..icky icky. It's not new, T. Boone Pickens has been trying to sell it for at least 5 years. But he's one of those icky oil tycoons.

There is no reason NG(LNG) shouldn't be widely used except one, a contrary political agenda at work.



/hot like lighting dinosaur farts

As a worker of a NG firm, I'm getting a kick ect...

GaryPDX: There is no reason NG(LNG) shouldn't be widely used except one, a contrary political agenda at work.

That and the whole energy density thing. And lack of filling stations. It's easy if you're running a fleet that comes home every night.

It's surprisingly easy to run about anything on NG of some sort (Propane to Methane). Just fumigate the intake and run the spark like normal. There are numerous 'how to's on line for how to convert your lawnmower to propane.

Yet strangely your heating bill will not go down. They will find some other way to
extract the cash from your pocket. Some hidden fee or maintenance fee.

/oh wait my bill went down a wopping $7. oooooooo I'm rich.

One town over from me lost a house to NG 2 years ago. The biggest piece of the house left I could pick up with one hand. Pieces were embedded in adjacent houses.

About 3 weeks ago we had 8 911 calls for "smell of natural gas" in houses and two schools in the span of 3 hours. I was expecting a giant ker-splosion.

The ivory back-scratcher market will plummet!

We're at $160/ton but we're surrounded by sawmills so I'm guessing that's a big part of the difference. I'm on about 15 wooded acres, so just cleaning out the trees that die on their own keeps me in firewood for the shop. If that weren't enough, there's a geothermal heat pump in the house as well and all our electricity is hydro.

I can't remember where my carbon footprint went.

NewportBarGuy: I'm glad I heat my home with the carcasses of dead hookers.


You wait till they're dead?

CujoQuarrel: NewportBarGuy: I'm glad I heat my home with the carcasses of dead hookers.


You wait till they're dead?

He's humane.

I have no problem with natural gas as a source of fuel for whatever they want to adapt it to (I've never understood how "natural gas refrigerators" work, however), and I'm 75 percent leftie.

/capital punishment OK with me
//gotta be super-duper sure he did it, though

Give a man a match and fuel, and he can be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

GaryPDX:

It's true. Natural Gas is a fossil fuel. Fossil Fuels are taboo to the Greenies on the left. Vehicles can easily be converted to using NG or LNG. You can even fill your tanks at home if you have NG service at home. It's THE cleanest fossil fuel there is and America has plenty of it.

Why isn't it being used? It's a fossil fuel..icky icky. It's not new, T. Boone Pickens has been trying to sell it for at least 5 years. But he's one of those icky oil tycoons.

There is no reason NG(LNG) shouldn't be widely used except one, a contrary political agenda at work.

Both Al Gore and Harry Reid support Pickens plan related to NG to fuel vehicles.
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What political 'lefties" are against it?

notto: GaryPDX:

It's true. Natural Gas is a fossil fuel. Fossil Fuels are taboo to the Greenies on the left. Vehicles can easily be converted to using NG or LNG. You can even fill your tanks at home if you have NG service at home. It's THE cleanest fossil fuel there is and America has plenty of it.

Why isn't it being used? It's a fossil fuel..icky icky. It's not new, T. Boone Pickens has been trying to sell it for at least 5 years. But he's one of those icky oil tycoons.

There is no reason NG(LNG) shouldn't be widely used except one, a contrary political agenda at work.

Both Al Gore and Harry Reid support Pickens plan related to NG to fuel vehicles.
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What political 'lefties" are against it?

The ones who get up tight about drilling and fracking. So that's quite a few of them.

"The NAT GAS Act encompasses the basic principle of the 'Make It In America' initiative that when we make more products in America, all Americans can make it," Congressman Larson said. "Legislation such as the NAT GAS Act focuses on tapping into the potential we already have in this country and providing incentives to expand that industry domestically. Natural gas is abundant, affordable, but most importantly` American. Passing the NAT GAS Act not only puts us on a path to energy independence, it has the potential to create over 600,000 jobs across the country that will last for generations to come."

The NAT GAS Act enjoys wide bipartisan and bicameral support from over 180 Democrats and Republicans, including the moderate Blue Dog Coalition and President Barack Obama. Additionally, the bill has the support of energy Tycoon, T. Boone Pickens, who includes natural gas as part of the "Pickens Plan."

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Representative of the unwashed masses:

What political 'lefties" are against it?

The ones who get up tight about drilling and fracking. So that's quite a few of them.

Can you name some? The use of NG is is quite a few democratic party platforms at the state level. Just want to find these elusive lefties. Can you point them out by name? We know it's not Reid, Gore, or the Texas DNC.

Being against unregulated and unchecked fracking does not mean that they do not suppor NG for auto. They simply want to have regulations in place to ensure safety and sustainability.

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GaryPDX: notto: What political 'lefties" are against it?

The far lefties, the envrotards. So why doesn't the left trumpet Natural Gas? WHY? WHY? Shouldn't we be hearing it from the rafters?

I want Al Gore himself selling Natural Gas on TV. He can fly in on his jet that runs on Unicorn farts.

You should read state and national DNC platforms. It's there. Why are the righties not shouting it from the rafters? Not trumpeting it based on your standards does not mean they are against it. You said they are against it yet you can't demonstrate it.

Can you point to an example of one of these envrotards? Still not seeing what you are talking about.

"Clean, abundant, and reliable energy is essential to a strong American economy. We support investment in research and development to spur domestic energy production and enhance efficiency. New technologies -- natural gas, energy efficiency, renewable energy -- developed in partnership with American industries and scientists are increasing productivity and creating jobs." (DNC Platform)

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