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(io9) Interesting Ten scientific and technological visionaries who experimented with drugs. Don't do drugs kids...or you'll end up like Thomas Edison or Bill Gates   (io9.com) divider line 73
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2012-01-16 03:30:52 PM
That was pretty awesome.

What's surprising is Sagan was the squarest if all he did was marijuana.

What's says it all about Apple hipsters is what Jobs said about Gates versus the reality.

What's failing is that any list with Feynman must have Feynman at #1, and this one doesn't.
 
2012-01-16 03:40:02 PM
I don't know if you can really equate the cocaine of back the late 19th and early 20th centuries with modern cocaine, though. The stuff from back then is probably more akin to drinking an energy drink more so than the pure, refined stuff you get nowadays.
 
2012-01-16 03:55:02 PM
That's right, kids - just look at the list, 8 out of 10 of these "visionaries" are dead now. Do you want to be dead?
 
2012-01-16 03:56:31 PM
Do drugs, kids! That way you'll end up a genius!
 
2012-01-16 03:58:21 PM
And Freud was into cocaine.

Which is why most crack heads become world famous psychologists.
 
2012-01-16 04:16:14 PM
I'm going to balance those 10 v. the millions that take it and are not visionaries. Doesn't take an acid trip to know it doesn't balance out.
 
2012-01-16 04:36:13 PM
Or you know, you could end up like this guy....
files.g4tv.com
 
2012-01-16 04:46:26 PM
mauricecano: I'm going to balance those 10 v. the millions that take it and are not visionaries. Doesn't take an acid trip to know it doesn't balance out.

if there was a drug that had a 50/50 chance of either killing you horribly OR turning you into a super powered godlike genius...would you outlaw it or let people decide for themselves if they could take it or not?
 
2012-01-16 04:48:29 PM
Also a visionary:

i.cdn.turner.com
 
2012-01-16 04:51:09 PM
Weaver95: mauricecano: I'm going to balance those 10 v. the millions that take it and are not visionaries. Doesn't take an acid trip to know it doesn't balance out.

if there was a drug that had a 50/50 chance of either killing you horribly OR turning you into a super powered godlike genius...would you outlaw it or let people decide for themselves if they could take it or not?


I'd outlaw it because I'd worry about eloi/morlocks or cloud dwellers/troglytes or Khaannnnnnn!
 
2012-01-16 04:55:03 PM
And Isaac Newton wrote that:

"I tooke a bodkine gh & put it betwixt my eye & [the] bone as neare to [the] backside of my eye as I could: & pressing my eye [with the] end of it (soe as to make [the] curvature a, bcdef in my eye)"

www.lib.cam.ac.uk

So yeah, go ahead and give that a shot.
 
2012-01-16 05:08:29 PM
i36.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-16 05:21:54 PM
RoyBatty: What's failing is that any list with Feynman must have Feynman at #1, and this one doesn't.
 
2012-01-16 05:29:34 PM
RoyBatty: Weaver95: mauricecano: I'm going to balance those 10 v. the millions that take it and are not visionaries. Doesn't take an acid trip to know it doesn't balance out.

if there was a drug that had a 50/50 chance of either killing you horribly OR turning you into a super powered godlike genius...would you outlaw it or let people decide for themselves if they could take it or not?

I'd outlaw it because I'd worry about eloi/morlocks or cloud dwellers/troglytes or Khaannnnnnn!


You know that that sort of outcome is more likely to occur with imbalance in nutrition and health care and education right?
 
2012-01-16 05:32:45 PM
sno man: You know that that sort of outcome is more likely to occur with imbalance in nutrition and health care and education right?

Yes, but that wasn't asked. What was asked, was, "what if there was this drug that would do this..."

(and if you asked me if I supported great nutrition, health care, and education for everyone, I would say, damn right.)
 
2012-01-16 05:35:14 PM
mauricecano: I'm going to balance those 10 v. the millions that take it and are not visionaries. Doesn't take an acid trip to know it doesn't balance out.

But the millions aren't all Golden Boy up thread either. Maybe it's time to call off the war on drugs...
 
2012-01-16 05:39:36 PM
RoyBatty: sno man: You know that that sort of outcome is more likely to occur with imbalance in nutrition and health care and education right?

Yes, but that wasn't asked. What was asked, was, "what if there was this drug that would do this..."

(and if you asked me if I supported great nutrition, health care, and education for everyone, I would say, damn right.)


True enough that wasn't what was asked. And I wasn't questioning your position, but it's cool to know we are on the same page there.
 
2012-01-16 06:05:23 PM
"experimented" with drugs. Right. Where's your R01? Where are your materials and methods? Apart from "this will get me farked up", what is your hypothesis? Which stats package did you use on your data? What was your control?

You didn't experiment with drugs, you got wasted and either went to rehab eventually or stopped it on your own because it scared you or you grew up.
 
2012-01-16 06:28:47 PM
PC LOAD LETTER: You didn't experiment with drugs

I was into full blown research.

Fun fact: Marilyn Monroe only dated guys who could score her a lid.
 
2012-01-16 06:53:01 PM
rarerborealis.com
 
2012-01-16 07:01:19 PM
Somehow I think you have the order of events slightly reversed, subby.
 
2012-01-16 07:20:13 PM
...he had actually "perceived the double-helix shape while on LSD."

Yeah, him and everyone else who has ever done acid. "Perceived" it is putting it pretty mildly, I'd say.
 
2012-01-16 07:32:43 PM
Weaver95: mauricecano: I'm going to balance those 10 v. the millions that take it and are not visionaries. Doesn't take an acid trip to know it doesn't balance out.

if there was a drug that had a 50/50 chance of either killing you horribly OR turning you into a super powered godlike genius...would you outlaw it or let people decide for themselves if they could take it or not?


Evil genius or benevolent genius?
 
2012-01-16 07:41:12 PM
dudemanbro: "Perceived" it is putting it pretty mildly, I'd say

I find it a quite succinct word for describing a three dimensional, full color, rotating, pulsating, talking, working, reproducing model of a DNA molecule.

But that's just my experience.

Are you experienced?
 
2012-01-16 08:33:40 PM
I'm glad they included Mullis, I was sure they'd skip him, seen him not mentioned in similar lists, was pleasantly surprised to see him.
 
2012-01-16 08:38:41 PM
DRTA: Was Tycho Brahe on the list?
 
2012-01-16 08:42:03 PM
www.thecitrusreport.com

/Obligatory
 
2012-01-16 08:42:10 PM
vudukungfu: dudemanbro: "Perceived" it is putting it pretty mildly, I'd say

I find it a quite succinct word for describing a three dimensional, full color, rotating, pulsating, talking, working, reproducing model of a DNA molecule.

But that's just my experience.

Are you experienced?


Not necessarily beautiful, but mutated
 
2012-01-16 08:46:38 PM
Pot & Shrooms when I was 20


/does this mean I'm a genius??
 
2012-01-16 08:55:09 PM
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-16 08:57:56 PM
vudukungfu: Are you experienced?

Mine was more like a cosmic roller coaster ride.
 
2012-01-16 09:05:47 PM
Buddha Belly: Not necessarily beautiful, but mutated

Devo's covers were the best covers. Mostly because they didn't try to emulate them and just made them into Devo songs.
 
2012-01-16 09:11:44 PM
 
2012-01-16 09:14:30 PM
Alan Turing didn't do drugs -- he did men.

So if you want to be a genius, either do LSD or be gay.
 
2012-01-16 09:16:49 PM
Ed Finnerty: [www.thecitrusreport.com image 294x231]

/Obligatory


Awww, Nate Dogg.

/lol
 
2012-01-16 09:19:03 PM
MrEricSir: Alan Turing didn't do drugs -- he did men.

So if you want to be a genius, either do LSD or be gay.


Stephen Hawking has just been really, really body stoned for the past 40 years.
 
2012-01-16 09:21:30 PM
RoyBatty: sno man: You know that that sort of outcome is more likely to occur with imbalance in nutrition and health care and education right?

Yes, but that wasn't asked. What was asked, was, "what if there was this drug that would do this..."

(and if you asked me if I supported great nutrition, health care, and education for everyone, I would say, damn right.)


Whatever dude.
www.naturalnews.com
 
2012-01-16 09:23:29 PM
www.quitsmokingpainlesslynow.com
 
2012-01-16 09:25:05 PM
files.sharenator.com
 
2012-01-16 09:25:14 PM
video man: I also must point out the greatest musician of the 20th Century did try PCP once.

He also did little boys. Your point?
 
2012-01-16 09:25:50 PM
I don't think I have it in me to do LSD anymore (ok... I KNOW I don't). Anybody else try it again in their mid 30's and realize that it ain't the same kick from their 20's?

I personally think that it's just all of the added responsibilities that you have piled on you later in life. Not exactly working from a "clean slate" at this stage.

Gave me a sad :(
 
2012-01-16 09:27:38 PM
10awesome.com
 
2012-01-16 09:32:15 PM
No Albert Hoffman? He's the very definition of experimenting with drugs.


Steve Jobs - LSD

www.iphone-wallpapers.us
 
2012-01-16 09:34:28 PM
Tr0mBoNe:

Stephen Hawking has just been really, really body stoned for the past 40 years.


I'm sooooooooooo stoned ^
 
2012-01-16 09:37:15 PM
Underabridge: video man: I also must point out the greatest musician of the 20th Century did try PCP once.

He also did little boys. Your point?


I don't recall Mothersbaugh diddling little boys. That's ninnie and twit behavior.
 
2012-01-16 09:54:44 PM
Mr. Pokeylope: I don't think I have it in me to do LSD anymore (ok... I KNOW I don't). Anybody else try it again in their mid 30's and realize that it ain't the same kick from their 20's?

I personally think that it's just all of the added responsibilities that you have piled on you later in life. Not exactly working from a "clean slate" at this stage.

Gave me a sad :(


Last time I did it I was 30. I was pretty drunk and alone at my house and it had been sitting in my freezer for a long time. Ipassed out before it could take effect. I was then awoken an hour or two later as the LSD overpowered the alcohol. Woke up to some pretty trippy visuals going on in my house, but I didn't really feel like I was tripping.
 
2012-01-16 10:06:33 PM
RexTalionis: I don't know if you can really equate the cocaine of back the late [sic] 19th and early 20th centuries with modern cocaine, though. The stuff from back then is probably more akin to drinking an energy drink more so than the pure, refined stuff you get nowadays.

lh6.googleusercontent.com


People love to hear themselves talk. Even if they have NFC what they're talking about.

lh4.googleusercontent.com
lh6.googleusercontent.com
(Registered March 1885)

/it's a chemical f*cking process that separates the actual cocaine molecules from the rest of the coca plant mash and suspends it in alcohol; the alcohol is then reduced (evaporated) until the drug is all that's left
//SCIENCE!
///upload.wikimedia.org
cocaine molecule

//upload.wikimedia.org
(NOT COCAINE) see source url

/you don't get pure cocaine 'nowadays' because every dealer down the line stomps it with baking soda, flour, ground white paint chips...
.Ulysses S Grant was 'addicted' to cocaine to ease the throat cancer he got from habitual cigar smoking
 
2012-01-16 10:12:21 PM
Experiment does not equal constant user nor addict. Plus, all these guys were super type A's. For every billionaire pot user there's 1,000 potheads living in their Mom's basement.
 
2012-01-16 10:18:45 PM
I had not heard of Feynman.

Cool stuff. Thank you.
 
2012-01-16 10:19:53 PM
WhyteRaven74: I'm glad they included Mullis, I was sure they'd skip him, seen him not mentioned in similar lists, was pleasantly surprised to see him.

There's a lot of mythology about Mullis in the biotech community, most of which is likely hyperbole, but I'd like to think the following two stories are true (but likely not):

1. The idea of using a DNA oligo pairs to allow DNA replication came to him while he was balls-deep in his girlfriend.
2. While at UC Berkley he would systematically sample lab chemicals to assess their potential "recreational" uses.
 
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