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2012-01-16 11:56:09 AM
Tattoo Tattoo
 
2012-01-16 12:01:55 PM
Wow. F*cking amazing. You can hardly see his fingers move.
 
2012-01-16 12:49:55 PM
So who was singing "bap ba da ba shoobie do wa" during the break?
 
2012-01-16 12:55:34 PM
What a farking gorgeous guitar sound. Seriously, forget about the last 18 years or so and remember that this changed guitar rock forever. This is absolutely gorgeous.
 
2012-01-16 01:12:27 PM
EVH is the best, not because of this particular track but in general. IMO of course.

Although in technical playing, Malmsteem is but he has no soul. He must have sold it in exchange for the ability to play those farking arpeggios.
 
2012-01-16 01:19:42 PM
Buckethead FTW!!!!


/not really
//"best" guitarist does not exist
 
2012-01-16 01:35:54 PM
Oooh-wha-ooooooah.
 
2012-01-16 01:41:08 PM

TeddyBallGame: What a farking gorgeous guitar sound. Seriously, forget about the last 18 years or so and remember that this changed guitar rock forever. This is absolutely gorgeous.


QFT
 
2012-01-16 01:45:32 PM
Love him or be insanely jealous of him. Eddie significantly changed the world of rock. That much is fact.
 
2012-01-16 01:46:17 PM
Great tone.

/Lynch ftw
 
2012-01-16 01:54:34 PM

Mark Ratner: Wow. F*cking amazing. You can hardly see his fingers move.


Try watching it in 1080p
 
2012-01-16 01:55:20 PM

Arn_Dee: Great tone.

/Lynch ftw


I'll tell you... it just sounds freaking bad-ass and always has. Even their new track "tattoo" which is pretty silly lyrically, the guitar sounds like a dream. In the much maligned "Without You" the same thing was true: EVH's guitar sounded like a finely-tuned engine.
 
2012-01-16 01:59:13 PM
Great first album, but never really understood why they would choose that pic of Alex...

Meet the band; Eddie on guitar, Dave on Vocals, Mike on bass...and here's red-blob guy on drums.
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2012-01-16 02:13:54 PM
To really put this style and sound into perspective, you should have heard how it sounded when framed within the culture of 1978.
 
2012-01-16 02:27:14 PM
Let me be the first to observe here that this solo sucks like a Hoover.
 
2012-01-16 02:28:33 PM
I always loved EVH's sense of 'swing', which is on full display here.
 
2012-01-16 02:28:55 PM

miltonbabbitt: To really put this style and sound into perspective, you should have heard how it sounded when framed within the culture of 1978.


It was the summer between 6th and 7th grade. I was playing vacant-lot baseball when my stepbrother drove up in his orange Monza. He popped the hatchback and out came the sound of Eruption.

We ALL dropped our gloves, and our jaws, and ran up the hill to his car to find out what that was.

I went from listening to Styx and Kiss to Van Halen, Led Zepplin, and Cream that summer.
 
2012-01-16 02:41:32 PM
"She's the Woman" sounds like a faster "Mean Streets", but Mean Streets had numerous improvements.

Hopefully this new album isn't all rejected early demos, but I'm glad to see DLR back in the fold with hopefully less drama this time around.

Whatever the case--Those 3 guys, as iconic as they are, missing Michael Lee's backing vox--sorry, that's just simply not Van Halen, whatever year's on the calendar.

Lee may have been just a barely serviceable bassist, but his backing vocal sound was a HUGE part of what made Van Halen what it was. This tour might be a car with 3 wheels, I'm afraid. I wasn't a Sammy fan, and I'm a huge Roth fan, but I must say that minus Lee is a much bigger hit to the VH sound than minus Roth.

/Will probably still go to the show this spring and take my 10 year old kid, who has all the Roth albums on his iPod
 
2012-01-16 02:51:25 PM

GiantBat: miltonbabbitt: To really put this style and sound into perspective, you should have heard how it sounded when framed within the culture of 1978.

It was the summer between 6th and 7th grade. I was playing vacant-lot baseball when my stepbrother drove up in his orange Monza. He popped the hatchback and out came the sound of Eruption.

We ALL dropped our gloves, and our jaws, and ran up the hill to his car to find out what that was.

I went from listening to Styx and Kiss to Van Halen, Led Zepplin, and Cream that summer.


I was in my first year out of high school, but not in college at the time. I went to the record store at the mall, don't remember which one, and found this in the miscellaneous "V" section. I thought it looked interesting enough to give it a shot, brought it home, listened to it absolutely dumbfounded. I called my friends over, and we just all sat there with the stereo maxed, amazed. Most of us were in bands, and it changed everything.
 
2012-01-16 02:55:27 PM

Certainly You Jest: "She's the Woman" sounds like a faster "Mean Streets", but Mean Streets had numerous improvements.

Hopefully this new album isn't all rejected early demos, but I'm glad to see DLR back in the fold with hopefully less drama this time around.

Whatever the case--Those 3 guys, as iconic as they are, missing Michael Lee's Anthony's backing vox--sorry, that's just simply not Van Halen, whatever year's on the calendar.

Lee Anthony may have been just a barely serviceable bassist, but his backing vocal sound was a HUGE part of what made Van Halen what it was. This tour might be a car with 3 wheels, I'm afraid. I wasn't a Sammy fan, and I'm a huge Roth fan, but I must say that minus Lee Anthony is a much bigger hit to the VH sound than minus Roth.

/Will probably still go to the show this spring and take my 10 year old kid, who has all the Roth albums on his iPod


FTFY
 
2012-01-16 02:59:25 PM

Mark Ratner: Wow. F*cking amazing. You can hardly see his fingers move.


You'll need to film him playing with one of those trillion-frames-per-second (erupts into a new window) cameras, clearly.
 
2012-01-16 03:01:53 PM
I can remember reading in an '80s Guitar Player magazine article that Eddie was in a music class in high school, and his teacher had assigned them to write a piece of music. Eddie turned his in, and received an "F". He protested to the teacher and was told that what he'd written had broken most every law of music theory. He challenged the teacher to allow him to play it for the class, and let them decide his grade. They gave him an "A".
 
2012-01-16 03:13:51 PM
I more of a fan of the Eddie clone Nuno Bettencourt
 
2012-01-16 03:14:50 PM
I cranked my x-mini to 11.
 
2012-01-16 03:18:36 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: I can remember reading in an '80s Guitar Player magazine article that Eddie was in a music class in high school, and his teacher had assigned them to write a piece of music. Eddie turned his in, and received an "F". He protested to the teacher and was told that what he'd written had broken most every law of music theory. He challenged the teacher to allow him to play it for the class, and let them decide his grade. They gave him an "A".


After a certain level, the rules are there to be broken.

/Applies to literary works as well.
 
2012-01-16 03:27:56 PM

factoryconnection: Arn_Dee: Great tone.

/Lynch ftw

I'll tell you... it just sounds freaking bad-ass and always has. Even their new track "tattoo" which is pretty silly lyrically, the guitar sounds like a dream. In the much maligned "Without You" the same thing was true: EVH's guitar sounded like a finely-tuned engine.


Most of you probably already know this, but at least in the early days Eddie rebuilt his own pickups. He unwound the wire coils and then rewound them with a very specific number of winds for each coil. Then he dipped them in melted paraffin wax. Removed the frets, filed them, replaced them. I can't even remember the pedals he used for his setup. It was pretty elaborate. I think I still have the copy of Guitar Player Magazine where he went into all of the nitty gritty details. There's just no freaking way I'd do all of that to a guitar.

Ted Nugent was at a concert with them and Ted Nugent tried Eddie's setup and...he sounded like Ted Nugent.
 
2012-01-16 03:36:22 PM

meyerkev: After a certain level, the rules are there to be broken.


The article reached pretty much the same conclusion. Eddie was a guest instructor when my friend was a student at GIT, in the '80s.
 
2012-01-16 03:37:06 PM
Went to YouTube and listened to several of Eddie's isolated guitar tunes, then I listened to some of Randy Rhoads' as well. It confirmed what I thought all along: Eddie has to have had RR killed, since RR was in the process of showing Eddie how to REALLY play the guitar.

Now if only i could find some isolated Ritchie Blackmore stuff.
 
2012-01-16 03:39:43 PM

gokc69: Certainly You Jest: "She's the Woman" sounds like a faster "Mean Streets", but Mean Streets had numerous improvements.

Hopefully this new album isn't all rejected early demos, but I'm glad to see DLR back in the fold with hopefully less drama this time around.

Whatever the case--Those 3 guys, as iconic as they are, missing Michael Lee's Anthony's backing vox--sorry, that's just simply not Van Halen, whatever year's on the calendar.

Lee Anthony may have been just a barely serviceable bassist, but his backing vocal sound was a HUGE part of what made Van Halen what it was. This tour might be a car with 3 wheels, I'm afraid. I wasn't a Sammy fan, and I'm a huge Roth fan, but I must say that minus Lee Anthony is a much bigger hit to the VH sound than minus Roth.

/Will probably still go to the show this spring and take my 10 year old kid, who has all the Roth albums on his iPod

FTFY


Doh--yes, yes, Michael Anthony--I knew that, really, I did. Thanks for the fix. Guess I'm still mourning the too-soon loss of drummer Michael Lee.

/Also guitarist Michael Hedges
 
2012-01-16 04:02:11 PM

TeddyBallGame: What a farking gorgeous guitar sound. Seriously, forget about the last 18 years or so and remember that this changed guitar rock forever. This is absolutely gorgeous.


For the worse. Van Halen turned into bubble gum rock almost immediately, 'Jump' makes me wanna hurl. Music was dead from the end of Led Zep to the beginning of Nirvana.
 
2012-01-16 04:02:35 PM
the absolute greatest post in the video section ever!

That is just fantastic.

Eddie's phrasing cannot be beat. he is like Frank Sinatra.

The playing on this particular track is a bit over the top and doesn't really illiustrate my point, but listen to his rhythmic lead guitar on tracks like Hot for Teacher or So This is Love.

An absolute genius who is unfortunately disparaged by no-nothing music snobs. People who literally know nothing about music and believe Elliot Smith invented the chord progression...
 
2012-01-16 04:06:18 PM

dig420: TeddyBallGame: What a farking gorgeous guitar sound. Seriously, forget about the last 18 years or so and remember that this changed guitar rock forever. This is absolutely gorgeous.

For the worse. Van Halen turned into bubble gum rock almost immediately, 'Jump' makes me wanna hurl. Music was dead from the end of Led Zep to the beginning of Nirvana.


Jump was a single off their last album. Not very immediate.

They have 5 albums before that each one better than the next. And every other track on the album 1984 (which Jump is on) is absolutely killer.
 
2012-01-16 04:16:13 PM

Barton Fink: dig420: TeddyBallGame: What a farking gorgeous guitar sound. Seriously, forget about the last 18 years or so and remember that this changed guitar rock forever. This is absolutely gorgeous.

For the worse. Van Halen turned into bubble gum rock almost immediately, 'Jump' makes me wanna hurl. Music was dead from the end of Led Zep to the beginning of Nirvana.

Jump was a single off their last album. Not very immediate.

They have 5 albums before that each one better than the next. And every other track on the album 1984 (which Jump is on) is absolutely killer.


No, 'Panama' is horrible too. Credit where it's due, everything up through 'Diver Down' was good, but the rest of it was sooooo terrible that it's tough to forgive them.
 
2012-01-16 04:18:03 PM

nvmac: So who was singing "bap ba da ba shoobie do wa" during the break?


Me! This truly is my favorite Van Halen track ever, between what we just heard, minimal Roth retardation, and all the harmonies of the break.

\The Roth era was by far the better era, but it doesn't mean you have to like Roth and his godawful obnoxious antics
\\When you get to the talkback line in Unchained, I've never pictured that Ted's tone towards Roth was the problem *if* they did, as they allege, rehearse the line.
 
2012-01-16 04:22:34 PM

dig420: Barton Fink: dig420: TeddyBallGame: What a farking gorgeous guitar sound. Seriously, forget about the last 18 years or so and remember that this changed guitar rock forever. This is absolutely gorgeous.

For the worse. Van Halen turned into bubble gum rock almost immediately, 'Jump' makes me wanna hurl. Music was dead from the end of Led Zep to the beginning of Nirvana.

Jump was a single off their last album. Not very immediate.

They have 5 albums before that each one better than the next. And every other track on the album 1984 (which Jump is on) is absolutely killer.

No, 'Panama' is horrible too. Credit where it's due, everything up through 'Diver Down' was good, but the rest of it was sooooo terrible that it's tough to forgive them.


are you talking about the Van Hagar stuff?

come on, man! that doesn't even exist in the same universe.

So diver down came out immediately before 1984. Even if you don't like Paname, you've got top Jimmy, House of Pain, drop dead legs, hot for motherfarking teacher!

(sorry, man. i NEVER get to talk DLR-era VH, I don't know anyone else really who likes them...)
 
2012-01-16 04:23:51 PM

FriarReb98: nvmac: So who was singing "bap ba da ba shoobie do wa" during the break?

\\When you get to the talkback line in Unchained, I've never pictured that Ted's tone towards Roth was the problem *if* they did, as they allege, rehearse the line.


Bah!

Turns out Eddie was the asshole all along.
 
2012-01-16 04:31:55 PM
yeah 'Drop Dead Legs' was pretty good too dammit... the problem with VH, imho, is that at their best they were good beer drinking music and that's about it. Not much more than momentary fun, and at their worst they were aggressively bad. Made me want to crawl into the speakers and punch EVH in the face. I mostly hate them because to me they're part of the Def Leppard brigade, all flash and no substance making heavy metal that 13 yr old girls could love. Such a HUGE step back from the 60's and 70's.

Our parents (I'm 45) got Cream, Traffic, The Who, the Stones, the Beatles, Hendrix etc. We got VH, Def Leppard, Ratt, Poison. Our kids got Nirvana, STP, Green Day.... it just doesn't seem fair and I'm still pissed off about it. My generation got totally screwed.
 
2012-01-16 04:38:48 PM
Drop Dead Legs and Summer Nights - perfect examples of EVH doing his thing.

Link (new window)
Link (new window)
 
2012-01-16 04:42:30 PM

dig420: yeah 'Drop Dead Legs' was pretty good too dammit... the problem with VH, imho, is that at their best they were good beer drinking music and that's about it. Not much more than momentary fun, and at their worst they were aggressively bad. Made me want to crawl into the speakers and punch EVH in the face. I mostly hate them because to me they're part of the Def Leppard brigade, all flash and no substance making heavy metal that 13 yr old girls could love. Such a HUGE step back from the 60's and 70's.

Our parents (I'm 45) got Cream, Traffic, The Who, the Stones, the Beatles, Hendrix etc. We got VH, Def Leppard, Ratt, Poison. Our kids got Nirvana, STP, Green Day.... it just doesn't seem fair and I'm still pissed off about it. My generation got totally screwed.


There was some good stuff going on in metal, new wave and hip hop in the 80s that still sounds great.

The pixies were late 80s. Some people like REM.

And some of that Motley Crue/Ratt type stuff holds up.

LiveWire still kicks ass...

I was mostly into "alternative" in the 80s, but i've always loved VH...
 
2012-01-16 04:46:53 PM

EliminateNinniesAndTwits: Summer Nights


Get that Van Hagar shiat out of here....


(no offense)
 
2012-01-16 04:48:18 PM

littlebeartoe: Let me be the first to observe here that this solo sucks like a Hoover.


pixelslayers.com

I guess you guys aren't ready for that, yet. But your kids are gonna love it.
 
2012-01-16 04:55:34 PM

dig420: yeah 'Drop Dead Legs' was pretty good too dammit... the problem with VH, imho, is that at their best they were good beer drinking music and that's about it. Not much more than momentary fun, and at their worst they were aggressively bad. Made me want to crawl into the speakers and punch EVH in the face. I mostly hate them because to me they're part of the Def Leppard brigade, all flash and no substance making heavy metal that 13 yr old girls could love. Such a HUGE step back from the 60's and 70's.

Our parents (I'm 45) got Cream, Traffic, The Who, the Stones, the Beatles, Hendrix etc. We got VH, Def Leppard, Ratt, Poison. Our kids got Nirvana, STP, Green Day.... it just doesn't seem fair and I'm still pissed off about it. My generation got totally screwed.


No, you totally didn't. Look at the Hot 100 lists from the 90s and you'll see that we might get some goodies here and there, but rock was dead by then. It was killed by the synth and the DJ. Music that anyone could make themselves and not worry about getting a backing band together for it. It's farking lazy-assed shiat that can't hold a candle to real, unadulterated rock, be it hair, metal, classic or whatever.

\was actually looking at said Hot 100 lists today while looking for stuff for an upcoming bday party...
\\The #1 track the day my nephew was born was Gold Digger by Kanye, and the day my niece was born it was "Love in This Club" by Usher. They're sooooooooooo never playing those at their 40th bday parties.
\\\I'm turning 36 this year, so i got MJ and hair bands for my childhood and Pearl Jam and STP for my adolescence... best of both worlds, if you ask me
 
2012-01-16 04:56:42 PM

Barton Fink: EliminateNinniesAndTwits: Summer Nights

Get that Van Hagar shiat out of here....


(no offense)


None taken. But what I hear is the awesome guitar-work, lyrics are secondary. People like you will let prejudice deprive them of stuff like Sucker in a Three Piece (new window) That's just essentially a huge guitar solo that never ends - great if you are in the mood for guitar-heavy rock played with finesse and power.
 
2012-01-16 04:59:01 PM

EliminateNinniesAndTwits: People like you .


I fully admit to being that kind of person in this case!
 
2012-01-16 05:02:42 PM

Barton Fink: dig420: yeah 'Drop Dead Legs' was pretty good too dammit... the problem with VH, imho, is that at their best they were good beer drinking music and that's about it. Not much more than momentary fun, and at their worst they were aggressively bad. Made me want to crawl into the speakers and punch EVH in the face. I mostly hate them because to me they're part of the Def Leppard brigade, all flash and no substance making heavy metal that 13 yr old girls could love. Such a HUGE step back from the 60's and 70's.

Our parents (I'm 45) got Cream, Traffic, The Who, the Stones, the Beatles, Hendrix etc. We got VH, Def Leppard, Ratt, Poison. Our kids got Nirvana, STP, Green Day.... it just doesn't seem fair and I'm still pissed off about it. My generation got totally screwed.

There was some good stuff going on in metal, new wave and hip hop in the 80s that still sounds great.

The pixies were late 80s. Some people like REM.

And some of that Motley Crue/Ratt type stuff holds up.

LiveWire still kicks ass...

I was mostly into "alternative" in the 80s, but i've always loved VH...


We didn't hear much Pixies and REM in Terre Haute, In. lol... if we did my life would have been completely different ;)
 
2012-01-16 05:11:30 PM

dig420:

We didn't hear much Pixies and REM in Terre Haute, In. lol... if we did my life would have been completely different ;)


I've always imagined Indiana was a big Van Hagar state,,,
 
2012-01-16 05:26:42 PM

Barton Fink: dig420:

We didn't hear much Pixies and REM in Terre Haute, In. lol... if we did my life would have been completely different ;)

I've always imagined Indiana was a big Van Hagar state,,,


yeah, and Huey Lewis and the News, Night Ranger, John Cafferty and all those other unforgettable rock legends. Yay class of 1984 (bleah)
 
2012-01-16 05:27:36 PM

3StratMan: Went to YouTube and listened to several of Eddie's isolated guitar tunes, then I listened to some of Randy Rhoads' as well. It confirmed what I thought all along: Eddie has to have had RR killed, since RR was in the process of showing Eddie how to REALLY play the guitar.


Without Eddie, there wouldn't have been Randy Rhoads' style. He probably would have sounded like Jimmy Page, just like all the other guitarists of that time.


dig420: Our parents (I'm 45) got Cream, Traffic, The Who, the Stones, the Beatles, Hendrix etc. We got VH, Def Leppard, Ratt, Poison. Our kids got Nirvana, STP, Green Day.... it just doesn't seem fair and I'm still pissed off about it. My generation got totally screwed.


Look what ultimately happened to that music; classic rock has been played out so much it's barely listenable.
 
2012-01-16 05:47:53 PM

dig420:
Night Ranger


To be fair, Don't Tell Me You Love Me is one of the all-time great hard rock songs.
 
2012-01-16 05:51:15 PM
Came for the greatest VH song of all time (pops) - leaving disappointed.

www.metalsucks.net

/of ALL TIME!
 
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