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(YouTube)   Eddie's isolated guitar track from "I'm The One" off Van Halen's first album. This should spawn a rational discussion   (youtube.com) divider line 84
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2012-01-16 05:57:39 PM
Sounds good. A damn site better than the isolated vocals from Running with the Devil
 
2012-01-16 06:03:02 PM
bigbabysurfer: Came for the greatest VH song of all time (pops) - leaving disappointed.

[www.metalsucks.net image 301x300]

/of ALL TIME!


I haven't clicked yet, but if that isn't Mean Streets, you are woefully wrong...
 
2012-01-16 06:36:37 PM
Lando Lincoln: factoryconnection: Arn_Dee: Great tone.

/Lynch ftw

I'll tell you... it just sounds freaking bad-ass and always has. Even their new track "tattoo" which is pretty silly lyrically, the guitar sounds like a dream. In the much maligned "Without You" the same thing was true: EVH's guitar sounded like a finely-tuned engine.

Most of you probably already know this, but at least in the early days Eddie rebuilt his own pickups. He unwound the wire coils and then rewound them with a very specific number of winds for each coil. Then he dipped them in melted paraffin wax. Removed the frets, filed them, replaced them. I can't even remember the pedals he used for his setup. It was pretty elaborate. I think I still have the copy of Guitar Player Magazine where he went into all of the nitty gritty details. There's just no freaking way I'd do all of that to a guitar.

Ted Nugent was at a concert with them and Ted Nugent tried Eddie's setup and...he sounded like Ted Nugent.


well in all fairness that's because Ted was a right wing belligerent asshole even then - it's just that now he's trying to make a living doing it to pay his bills
 
2012-01-16 07:10:18 PM
GiantBat: miltonbabbitt: To really put this style and sound into perspective, you should have heard how it sounded when framed within the culture of 1978.

It was the summer between 6th and 7th grade. I was playing vacant-lot baseball when my stepbrother drove up in his orange Monza. He popped the hatchback and out came the sound of Eruption.

We ALL dropped our gloves, and our jaws, and ran up the hill to his car to find out what that was.

I went from listening to Styx and Kiss to Van Halen, Led Zepplin, and Cream that summer.


9 years old, on a summer Saturday morning. My friend and I rode our bikes up to his house, and on the front porch the mailman had just delivered a small box from the Columbia Record and Tape Club to my friend's older brother. Of course, we opened it.

Among about a dozen tapes was this, and we stole it.

I'll never forget the day the sunny sounds of AM mellow gold died...
 
2012-01-16 07:15:41 PM
Jamies Crying guitar track (new window) Me likey.
 
2012-01-16 07:45:10 PM
Summer of 78, I was 15, and I hadn't heard Van Halen yet. Went to my first big outdoor show and they were billed 4th after Doobies/Atlanta Rhythm Section/Journey. Show might has well have been over after VH played. I was hooked. Saw them a dozen more times (twice with the inferior Van Hagar lineup) and was floored by Eddie every time.
 
2012-01-16 07:57:02 PM
Grest song, but there is no way the EVH of today could play that song.
 
kab
2012-01-16 07:57:52 PM
miltonbabbitt: To really put this style and sound into perspective, you should have heard how it sounded when framed within the culture of 1978.

Lots of this.

As far as the track itself, tons of swing, great playing.
 
kab
2012-01-16 08:10:24 PM
zvoidx: Without Eddie, there wouldn't have been Randy Rhoads' style. He probably would have sounded like Jimmy Page, just like all the other guitarists of that time.

Rhoads was in Quiet Riot (new window) in 1978, prior to Ozzy, and I don't think either him or VH necessarily sound like each other in any significant way, even after RR joined Ozzy and became much more well known.

/shiatty audio on that video, but move to about 1:20 or so for his solo.
 
2012-01-16 08:31:27 PM
THAT is the Eddie Van Halen that changed the game. Damn. Story time kids, gather 'round Papaw here. I remember getting the farking 8-TRACK in the mail FROM COLUMBIA HOUSE. Hadn't heard one note of one song, bought it on the recommendation of a kid that just started at my high school, moved here from Hemet, CA. Plugged in my trusty Pioneer headphones (the big black "Mickey Mouse" ears)...and my mind was blown. No one before or since kicked me in the head like that.

Lawn, off, etc.
 
2012-01-16 08:32:46 PM
pope183: Lando Lincoln: Ted Nugent was at a concert with them and Ted Nugent tried Eddie's setup and...he sounded like Ted Nugent.

well in all fairness that's because Ted was a right wing belligerent asshole even then - it's just that now he's trying to make a living doing it to pay his bills


That's because there is no recipe to tone, apart from using some Line 6 amp to output what it thinks famous people sound like. A bit of tone comes from the wood, and the amp, and the pickups and strings, but that's just the very obvious 10% of sound -- the simple part that makes a Les Paul through a Marshall stack sound different from a Tele through a Champ. Everything that could be good or bad or magic about a guitar sound is in the fingers.

/Hopefully I quoted everyone right.
 
2012-01-16 08:45:38 PM
This guy could show eddie a few things. Just sayin.

Link (new window)
 
2012-01-16 09:04:53 PM
All these p0sts and no one mentions the great Angus Young? Not even a shout out to the great SRV?...

Shame on you all...
 
2012-01-16 09:34:38 PM
9th grade, sitting in Kevin Kuhn's Duster with a case of Schlitz Malt liquor tall boys, he pulls out an 8 track tape of tis band his sister was ranting about. It was Van Halen's first album and everything changed from that point forward.
 
2012-01-16 09:36:33 PM
Bit'O'Gristle: This guy could show eddie a few things. Just sayin.

Link (new window)


Bit'O'Gristle: This guy could show eddie a few things. Just sayin.

Link (new window)


Damn near unlistenable. Don't know why more guitarists don't take a cue from Angus Young, keep it simple but very very cool.
 
2012-01-16 09:38:23 PM
The hook from Sin City is worth more than Yngwie Malmsteen's entire repertoire lol
 
2012-01-16 09:49:54 PM
TeddyBallGame: What a farking gorgeous guitar sound. Seriously, forget about the last 18 years or so and remember that this changed guitar rock forever. This is absolutely gorgeous.

THIS
 
2012-01-16 09:52:07 PM
bigbabysurfer: Came for the greatest VH song of all time (pops) - leaving disappointed.

[www.metalsucks.net image 301x300]

/of ALL TIME!


A VERY under-appreciated album
 
2012-01-16 10:03:02 PM
Curious what people here think:

Technically, have Eddie's guitar skills improved over the years, declined, or stayed the same?
 
2012-01-16 10:47:03 PM
Corn_Fed: Curious what people here think:

Technically, have Eddie's guitar skills improved over the years, declined, or stayed the same?


I vote "declined".
 
2012-01-16 11:05:47 PM
Atomic Spunk: Corn_Fed: Curious what people here think:

Technically, have Eddie's guitar skills improved over the years, declined, or stayed the same?

I vote "declined".


I dunno. Maybe, but the solo in I'll Wait is one of his best ever
 
2012-01-16 11:35:43 PM
Is that the guitar that was buried with Dimebag Darrrell?
 
2012-01-17 01:16:52 AM
Bit'O'Gristle: This guy could show eddie a few things. Just sayin.

Link (new window)


Well that was truly suck-tastic, and completely irrelevant.
 
2012-01-17 06:33:53 AM
Onkel Buck: I more of a fan of the Eddie clone Nuno Bettencourt

Wouldn't call him a clone...but yea I prefer him much more too. Seemed to do a lot more with a lot less.
 
2012-01-17 08:04:52 AM
Corn_Fed: Curious what people here think:

Technically, have Eddie's guitar skills improved over the years, declined, or stayed the same?


I think his skills have matured. He isnt as fast as he used to be but he still has the technical chops and a very good sound. As long as he doesnt sing. When he opens his mouth to sing it all goes to shiat. "How Many Say I" is exhibit A here.

Without Mike's backup vocals the band is missing its heart. But I guess Eddie's house sized son has to do something musical and nepotism is the easiest thing to do...
 
2012-01-17 10:52:57 AM
Lando Lincoln: Ted Nugent was at a concert with them and Ted Nugent tried Eddie's setup and...he sounded like Ted Nugent.

I've heard many tales of people trying to replicate Eddie's "brown sound" with VARIACs and whatnot and the ultimate result is that they miss the main ingredient: Eddie.

Lizardking: Without Mike's backup vocals the band is missing its heart. But I guess Eddie's house sized son has to do something musical and nepotism is the easiest thing to do...

I agree about Michael Anthony... listening to Tattoo after listening to Chickenfoot over the last year or so makes his absence loom large with Van Halen. The chorus doesn't pop whatsoever, so it just becomes a "wait for the solo" routine. He's a perfectly good bass player that keeps the song together while fireworks shoot out of stage left, and his singing is terrific.
 
2012-01-17 01:15:33 PM
factoryconnection: I agree about Michael Anthony... listening to Tattoo after listening to Chickenfoot over the last year or so makes his absence loom large with Van Halen. The chorus doesn't pop whatsoever, so it just becomes a "wait for the solo" routine. He's a perfectly good bass player that keeps the song together while fireworks shoot out of stage left, and his singing is terrific.

Im still not clear if it was Mike's idea to leave the band or if he was forced out by the brothers van Halen, but the band just isnt the same without his bass and singing. Tattoo could have been epic, but somehow its just a good song now
 
2012-01-17 02:13:18 PM
Bit'O'Gristle: This guy could show eddie a few things. Just sayin.

Link (new window)



I liked it. But then again, I like Ben-Gay on jock itch.

No really, he's fast, clean and never painted himself into a corner. However, he did sound like he was getting paid by the note.
 
2012-01-17 10:52:27 PM
FatalDischarge: Is that the guitar that was buried with Dimebag Darrrell?

No, but close - it was this one. (new window)

www.metalsucks.net
 
2012-01-17 11:04:17 PM
miltonbabbitt: To really put this style and sound into perspective, you should have heard how it sounded when framed within the culture of 1978.

It's no More Songs About Buildings and Food, but I imagine it did good things for sales of tight jeans and barrettes.
 
2012-01-18 07:27:43 PM
bigbabysurfer: FatalDischarge: Is that the guitar that was buried with Dimebag Darrrell?

No, but close - it was this one. (new window)

[www.metalsucks.net image 640x214]


What a farking waste of a guitar. No disrespect to Dimebag, but...Jesus Christ on a pogo stick...thinking about that guitar rotting away in the ground is horrible.
 
2012-01-18 08:49:07 PM
Lando Lincoln: bigbabysurfer: FatalDischarge: Is that the guitar that was buried with Dimebag Darrrell?

No, but close - it was this one. (new window)

[www.metalsucks.net image 640x214]

What a farking waste of a guitar. No disrespect to Dimebag, but...Jesus Christ on a pogo stick...thinking about that guitar rotting away in the ground is horrible.


Sign up a crew, and go get it!
 
2012-01-18 09:09:48 PM
barefoot in the head: miltonbabbitt: To really put this style and sound into perspective, you should have heard how it sounded when framed within the culture of 1978.

It's no More Songs About Buildings and Food, but I imagine it did good things for sales of tight jeans and barrettes.


Funny you should mention that - I'm a huge Talking Heads fan.
 
2012-01-19 06:12:40 PM
Bit'O'Gristle: This guy could show eddie a few things. Just sayin.

Link (new window)


Reminded me of Yngwie, Jason Becker, Marty Friedman, Tony McAlpine, Guy Mann Dude, Paul Gilbert. Anything from the mid 90s on Shrapnel Records. And every gunslinger around there was influenced by Eddie and Beethoven.
 
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