if it is anything like the last Torchwood series I will be really excited to watch it for the first 4 episodes and then kinda remember oh yea that is on and then I'll get around to watching the last 2

What's the point of this? I mean Doctor Who is a fantasy series about a guy who magically appears and solves problems. Sure maybe it's not young adult or... younger but... Seesm like he's been here before.

Doctor Who was created as a children's show. People sometimes forget that because of all the awesome.

Russell's done all right, mostly, so I think it's worth giving a shot to see what the new concept looks like. At a guess, the "magic" will have a psuedo-scientific grounding, something like what Niven or Asprin do when they write about magic, or like Clarke's Law describes "magic". I could live with those.

CygnusDarius: Why Not Harry Potter meets Harry Dresden, damn it?.

Because it doesn't work in either direction.

Dresden cast inserted into Harry Potter timeline:
A slightly paranoid Minister hires Harry Dresden to investigate the mysterious death of Professor Quirrel at the end of the prior year. He acquires the DADA position instead of Gilderoy Lockheart, and Molly becomes a second-year transfer student. rings become very popular throughout the student body. After the second petrification, Dresden has a pointed discussion with Bob about the history of Hogwarts, and begins looking for the Chamber of Secrets. Stymied by his inability to speak Snake, he is forced to follow Harry down into the tunnels. We never find out about the Sword of Gryffynidor, the healing tears of a phoenix, or how Harry reacts to being poisoned, because "Fuego!". Afterward, Dresden has a pointed discussion with Ivy about Tom Marvolo Riddle. Over the next summer, Mab moves into Azkaban and evicts everyone, and an awful lot of Death Eaters have unfortunate accidents. Voldemort's resurrection fails to materialize, and we close on Ebeneezer and Kincaid arguing over who had the higher score at one of Mac's 13 tables.

Harry Potter cast inserted into Dresden files timeline:
Harry, Ron, Ginny, and Hermione visit Chicago as part of a post-graduation world tour. Ron is severely injured in a fight with a Red Court vampire. Hermione, though extensive research, discovers some of what is going on, but ignores a warning from Father Forthill to return to England. While chasing down a lead, they encounter Michael Carpenter, with whom they have a long and pointed conversation about who botched up whose attack on the Red Court nest. This attracts the unfortunate attentions of Nicodemus, who kills them all, except Ginny, who only wishes she was dead.

The Doctor kills off that ginger freak Ron, and takes Hermoine as his new companion?

Spoiler Alert!

Speaking of things British and tangentially relates to Doctor Who, my current theory is that Sherlock landed on the bags on the lorry and then threw himself over the side and on to the sidewalk. Molly provided a packet of blood and pronounced him dead. Anyone agree?

"Aliens vs Wizards"? Sounds familiar:

While I appreciate that Davies was instrumental in getting Doctor Who back on the air, Steven Moffatt's writing is worlds better.

That said, this show is probably going shove the fact that there are two gay extras into our face EVERY SINGLE GORRAM EPISODE.

So, No, I'm not planning on watching it..

xanadian: The Voice of Doom: "Aliens vs Wizards"? Sounds familiar:

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How about... Doctor Who meets Star Wa...NONONONONONONO OUT OF MY HEAD!!!! :(

Captain Jack Harkness is Han Solo's father!!!

Radioactive Ass: xanadian: The Voice of Doom: "Aliens vs Wizards"? Sounds familiar:

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How about... Doctor Who meets Star Wa...NONONONONONONO OUT OF MY HEAD!!!! :(

Captain Jack Harkness is Han Solo's father!!!

How about Torchwood meets Firefly?



Then you could throw in Doctor #11 for triple suspender action.

rynthetyn: fusillade762: Radioactive Ass: xanadian: The Voice of Doom: "Aliens vs Wizards"? Sounds familiar:

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How about... Doctor Who meets Star Wa...NONONONONONONO OUT OF MY HEAD!!!! :(

Captain Jack Harkness is Han Solo's father!!!

How about Torchwood meets Firefly?

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Then you could throw in Doctor #11 for triple suspender action.

There's probably already some slash fiction out there on that theme.

You are correct. As it happens, I hate you all.

Eh, I'm interested. Hesitant, but interested.

Metraxis: rynthetyn: fusillade762: Radioactive Ass: xanadian: The Voice of Doom: "Aliens vs Wizards"? Sounds familiar:

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How about... Doctor Who meets Star Wa...NONONONONONONO OUT OF MY HEAD!!!! :(

Captain Jack Harkness is Han Solo's father!!!

How about Torchwood meets Firefly?

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Then you could throw in Doctor #11 for triple suspender action.

There's probably already some slash fiction out there on that theme.

You are correct. As it happens, I hate you all.

I'm afraid to look and see if there's any Rule 34 out there on this.

/did I say afraid? I meant terrified

CygnusDarius: Why Not Harry Potter meets Harry Dresden, damn it?.

Wot, Harry Potsden? The unconventional sporto wizard with more power than finesse who went to a magical boarding school as a boy and made friends with a witch and a vampire and a ghost who is bound to a skull which he kept with him as an informant and partner when he went on to become a private investigator and consultant for the police to help him find the demon who killed his parents and left him with a peculiar scar and a lien on his soul that links him to the demon who was once a human wizard like him and who has been hounding him since childhood for some reason he hasn't yet discovered? That fella?

Moffat has ALREADY turned Dr. Who into Harry Butthole Potter, and even went GAYER than Russell T. Daives, the guy who created "Queer as Folk," with Dr. Who.

The Doctor used to think out solutions to problems. Now he just raises his sonic screwdriver which seems to now do just about anything, except open "Dead Locked" doors.

FunkOut:
wookiemonster:
The Doctor used to think out solutions to problems. Now he just raises his sonic screwdriver which seems to now do just about anything, except open "Dead Locked" doors.

Back in the old days, the Doctor used to open up dead locked doors with a piece of celery from his lapel and an onion he had tied to his belt...

The screwdriver was used a hell of a lot in the last ones I watched (I'm a season and a half behind right now). It's more fun when the Doctor makes gadgets. It does tend to date the show later (because the gadgets look out of date), but who cares how hokey people think it looks in 20 years? That's their problem.

fusillade762: Radioactive Ass: xanadian: The Voice of Doom: "Aliens vs Wizards"? Sounds familiar:

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How about... Doctor Who meets Star Wa...NONONONONONONO OUT OF MY HEAD!!!! :(

Captain Jack Harkness is Han Solo's father!!!

How about Torchwood meets Firefly?

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Then you could throw in Doctor #11 for triple suspender action.

I do hope you mean braces, I wouldn't want to see Jack in suspenders.

Bunnyhat: Luthien's Tempest: Yeah, but it's Russel T Davies, so you'll only end up hating it somewhere around year three. And/or there will be at least one character who *just won't die already*

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what he did for Doctor Who, but between Rose, Tennant's last episodes, and the two Torchwood miniseries, I really don't think I'll be quick to start watching his next brilliant new idea. Though maybe he is better at children's shows, I only saw a handful of episodes of SJA.



I loved the first Torchwood miniseries. It was some of the best TV I've watched. I haven't watched anything past the first couple of the new one and wasn't hooked, so maybe it sucked. Yes, Rose got a little old. I could never hate any of Tennant's episodes, the last season of his were his worst, but still better than 98% of TV.

Even though I was never fond of her, and was somewhat pleased when she left, I still couldn't help but feel excitement at her and the Doctor's eventual reunion.

/and I love Catherine Tate. There I said it

whizbangthedirtfarmer: /and I love Catherine Tate. There I said it

Donna Noble was probably my favorite companion...until the last episode retconned out every single bit of character development she'd gone through that season. That pissed me off no end.

PizzaJedi81: whizbangthedirtfarmer: /and I love Catherine Tate. There I said it

Donna Noble was probably my favorite companion...until the last episode retconned out every single bit of character development she'd gone through that season. That pissed me off no end.

That's probably one of the reasons I had trouble getting into Series 5+, because the whole thing with Donna still felt so unresolved. Come on, a lottery ticket? Fix the damn time bomb in her head! And since Moffat seems completely uninterested in providing any continuity with the RTD era, I don't see this ever getting resolved.

Metraxis: Dresden cast inserted into Harry Potter timeline:

You forgot the part where Harry rides a zombie basilisk that eats Voldemort.

LoTR vs Star Trek
Akira vs Heroes
Rome vs Pimp My Ride
Red Dwarf vs Desperate Housewives
Misfits vs Shaun the Sheep

The possibilities are endless ... ;p

Bucky Katt: Luthien's Tempest: Yeah, but it's Russel T Davies, so you'll only end up hating it somewhere around year three. And/or there will be at least one character who *just won't die already*

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what he did for Doctor Who, but between Rose, Tennant's last episodes, and the two Torchwood miniseries, I really don't think I'll be quick to start watching his next brilliant new idea. Though maybe he is better at children's shows, I only saw a handful of episodes of SJA.

Davies sometimes is too fond of blood baths and wallowing in emotional angst.

My son (then 10) and I watched the (pre watershead) version of Torchwood (series 2)
his sage comment was that "I really like it, but there is too much kissing.... particularly between the men"

the_wanderer: While I appreciate that Davies was instrumental in getting Doctor Who back on the air, Steven Moffatt's writing is worlds better.

That said, this show is probably going shove the fact that there are two gay extras into our face EVERY SINGLE GORRAM EPISODE.

So, No, I'm not planning on watching it..

Oh dear. Your one of those boring types who constantly goes on about RTD's "gay agenda" aren't you?

No.

I credit RTD with bringing the series back and creating Donna Noble, Super-Temp (who got screwed!), but I think in trying to hard to "humanize" the Doctor he forgot who and what the Doctor was and almost ruined the character. And agreed with the poster above, the moment he got angry at Wilf, I was ready to off Ten myself. Left a very bad taste in my mouth. And yes, Rose became damn annoying. The only good episodes written by Davies were "Turn Left" and "Midnight" (which was a blatant lift of a CSI episode called "Unfriendly Skies," but very well written). Moffett really made NuWho come into its own with some of the best written episodes under RTD and once he got his hands on the wheel the show has become truly awesome. (Though it would be nice if they did more one-off stories and I was rather disappinted in what he did with the weeping angels.)

Tennant was o.k., but his tendacy to chew scenery made it occasionally "the Doctor as played by Bugs Bunny." I LOVE Matt Smith's Doctor, have since, "Do you know when adults tell you "Everything is going to be o.k." and you know they are only saying that to make you feel better?...Everything is going to be o.k.." Wise, kind, brutally honest, and impatient with the universe.

And the sonic screwdriver was much of a magic wand under RTD than it is now. In fact, Moffett made a point of ditching it for Smith's first episode.

Never saw any of the SJA, and as much as I adored Captain Jack, I could not get into Torchwood. So I will wait until I hear what people have to say on this project.

rynthetyn: I thought RTD had tabled all of his projects while his partner undergoes cancer treatment. Does this mean that his partner's better?

Sarah Jane Adventures is the only show he's done that he didn't end up finding a way to ruin.



Disagrees.

/Never saw the US version.