Pretty soon she is going to own that ambulance company.

Holy shiat...She's a Nurse...there is NO way they are getting away with shiat like that...

Darth_Lukecash: Holy shiat...She's a Nurse...there is NO way they are getting away with shiat like that...

I agree with you, but I am wondering if there is maybe something missing from her side of the story.

I am not excusing what they did, but I just cannot see anyone doing that.

Well it is Canada.

Macular Degenerate: $20 says she was a completely out of control bossy lunatic, trying to tell all the EMTs how to do their jobs. If it were me in that case, I'd have dumped her on the side of the road too.

i concur. they are just trying to save his life....let them do their job.

Teen Wolf Blitzer: Grables'Daughter: Darth_Lukecash: Holy shiat...She's a Nurse...there is NO way they are getting away with shiat like that...

I agree with you, but I am wondering if there is maybe something missing from her side of the story.

I am not excusing what they did, but I just cannot see anyone doing that.

I can. I've been in a few situations personally where the EMT's actually did less than the bystanders. They're low-wage workers with a 2-year degree (if that)... I certainly wouldn't hold them to any high standard.

Yeppers. Those were not "paramedics". They were, at best EMT-1a's, or what we'd call "ambulance drivers." I'd lay better than even odds they had no idea what they were doing, never even called it in; and probably the reason they went back to the ski clinic is because Fire/Rescue showed up and the REAL medics were going "WTF?!??! Where's our goddamn patient!!?"

RogueVortex: duckpoopy: Maybe she should have told her husband to avoid that tree

George, george, george of the jungle....

/First thing in my head.
//Probably going to hell.

On the same vine as me.

Watch out for that...OOF!...tree...

Macular Degenerate: $20 says she was a completely out of control bossy lunatic, trying to tell all the EMTs how to do their jobs. If it were me in that case, I'd have dumped her on the side of the road too.

182: Macular Degenerate: $20 says she was a completely out of control bossy lunatic, trying to tell all the EMTs how to do their jobs. If it were me in that case, I'd have dumped her on the side of the road too.

i concur. they are just trying to save his life....let them do their job.

ongbok: Macular Degenerate: $20 says she was a completely out of control bossy lunatic, trying to tell all the EMTs how to do their jobs. If it were me in that case, I'd have dumped her on the side of the road too.

I'm going to go with this. I can see her trying to tell them what to do with out knowing what they can do or are allowed to do.

1) Based on her quotes, she knows what she's doing and what they are supposed to be doing.
2) Just because a family member is shouting at you shouldn't stop you from taking care of a patient correctly. If her accounting of the story is true -- if they never took vitals or started an IV -- they were negligent, and they're farked.

Macular Degenerate: $20 says she was a completely out of control bossy lunatic, trying to tell all the EMTs how to do their jobs. If it were me in that case, I'd have dumped her on the side of the road too.

This. Two days after her husband dies she's calling the press and complaining about the ambulance company.

beerbaron: Sonny Bono and Christopher Reeve
Skis, horses and hittin' some trees!

Lived on a road that led to the local ski area. The ambulance came like ten times a day during ski season. Would you eat at a restaurant where the ambulance came ten times a day?

/skiing is for dumbasses

I have friends who ski, and are horrified that I ride a motorcycle. Only real injury I've ever gotten was a race track crash, and even that was just a cracked rib and some damaged tendins in my knee. And I wear far better safety gear than skiers do.

But there's no convincing them

Teen Wolf Blitzer: Grables'Daughter: Darth_Lukecash: Holy shiat...She's a Nurse...there is NO way they are getting away with shiat like that...

I agree with you, but I am wondering if there is maybe something missing from her side of the story.

I am not excusing what they did, but I just cannot see anyone doing that.

I can. I've been in a few situations personally where the EMT's actually did less than the bystanders. They're low-wage workers with a 2-year degree (if that)... I certainly wouldn't hold them to any high standard.

Perhaps one should know what they are talking about before they spout of moronic insults such as this, and remove all doubt, Buddy.

Its to bad you never hear about these assholes repeatedly getting kicked in the balls.

ongbok: MOHWowbagger: Macular Degenerate: $20 says she was a completely out of control bossy lunatic, trying to tell all the EMTs how to do their jobs. If it were me in that case, I'd have dumped her on the side of the road too.

182: Macular Degenerate: $20 says she was a completely out of control bossy lunatic, trying to tell all the EMTs how to do their jobs. If it were me in that case, I'd have dumped her on the side of the road too.

i concur. they are just trying to save his life....let them do their job.

ongbok: Macular Degenerate: $20 says she was a completely out of control bossy lunatic, trying to tell all the EMTs how to do their jobs. If it were me in that case, I'd have dumped her on the side of the road too.

I'm going to go with this. I can see her trying to tell them what to do with out knowing what they can do or are allowed to do.

1) Based on her quotes, she knows what she's doing and what they are supposed to be doing.
2) Just because a family member is shouting at you shouldn't stop you from taking care of a patient correctly. If her accounting of the story is true -- if they never took vitals or started an IV -- they were negligent, and they're farked.

First of all these guys don't sound like they were paramedics. They sound like they were just ambulance drivers. The difference is that EMT's work with the fire department and are called to accidents. These guys work for private ambulance companies that transfer people to the hospital once they are stable. in other words, they are not life savers. From her own words she said that her husband was alert and talking at the clinic when the ambulance came. So it all comes down to what they were legally able to do.

Um, what?

There is no such thing as an ambulance crewed by "Ambulance Drivers" in the United States, and have not been since the early 1970s. At a minimum, Every Ambulance in the United States, Even ones who simply take grandma home from the hospital and take a single blood pressure are crewed by an EMT-Basic and Driver. Most services who perform 911 operations operate at atleast the Basic Life Support standard and are crewed with either an EMT and EMT, EMT and EMT-Intermediate, EMT and Paramedic, or Paramedic and Paramedic. In addition to this, "EMTs" are not exclusively employed with Fire Departments. The majority of EMTs around the nation aren't even affiliated with the Fire Service.

They DO NOT TRANSFER A PATIENT TO THE HOSPITAL ONCE THEY ARE STABLE. Prehospital Life Support is geared towards stablization of the patent as best as possibile while in transit, expecially if there is a long transit time. Most of the time, with an unstable trauma patient, there is Nothing to be done in the field that can stabilize them except for the prompt transport to a definitive surgical care facility.

The Nurse and Respiratory Therapist I work with did get a good laugh out of the "They are not lifesavers" comment, though. Good troll, 10/10.

There is ALWAYS more to the story that what we are told. Facts are skewed on all sides in an emergency.
Here is what I know (or at least can glean FTFA):
1. As a long time ER nurse, when skier meets tree, expect the worst. Torso injury; expect fractured ribs, ruptured spleen and any other of a host of "deceleration" injuries. Pt. conscious and talking, rule out head injury, either way get to the goddamn hospital.
2. Ski patrol did what they are supposed to do.
3. Should have had IV started in First Aid Station prior to ambulance arriving. Don't ski at that hill if someone can't at least do that basic skill.
4. EMT's should have started #3 if Station didn't.
5. No reason to "scoop and run" (EMT terminology for code 3 STAT, no time to waste to ER etc). Patient is alert and talking....and take a goddamn blood pressure before you leave! This is basic to ANY level EMT.
6. There is no such thing as an emergency unless CPR is required (my personal motto, in other words, there is always time to assess the situation and procede accordingly).
7. Wife is a source of valuable information. Unfortunately there is always a "pissing match" between health care workers. I've experienced this first hand, but I know how to run the "game".
8. EMT's should never have turned back to First Aid station, unless they determined they were closer to them when patient arrested. You always need extra help during these situations. Either way, call for advice, thats why there is radios in emergency vehicles.
9. Never diss or upset an RN who's spouse is the subject of this apparent Fubar. You are just asking for it.

/sensational story = more sales
// tragic story no matter what.
///that is all.

Teen Wowlf Blitzer: If her story is true, isn't that exactly what anyone would do?

I've refused to let family members ride into the hosptial before. There is no legal requirement for me to take them unless the patient is a minor, and if they are interfering with patient care or delaying me getting a critical patient to defintiive care, it's my license and livelyhood on the line. I can't explain away to the state EMS board why I delayed care so they cound find their suitcase and pack while I had a patient bleeding out from a torn aortic arch or dying from a STEMI. I also don't let people ride in the box with me, expecially running RLS. There's no way to safely secure you back there, expecially if I have a First Responder riding with me to assist. I try to be as polite and as accomidating as possible. But there are certain times where "either you come with me now, or you're staying here."

If I'm on the Heli, you're not flying with them. There's no room, period.

It's no different than removing a family member from the resus room while you are performing a procedure

Now. Before you say Oh, BronyMedic, how could you defend these people. They're dicks!, why don't you take a deep breath, relax, and realize I'm NOT. What I am saying though, is that I can understand why they left without her, and think people need to wait for the entire situation to come out, before calling them dicks and awarding summary judgement.

Teen Wolf Blitzer: CruiserTwelve: Macular Degenerate: $20 says she was a completely out of control bossy lunatic, trying to tell all the EMTs how to do their jobs. If it were me in that case, I'd have dumped her on the side of the road too.

This. Two days after her husband dies she's calling the press and complaining about the ambulance company.

If her story is true, isn't that exactly what anyone would do?

who calls the press when their loved one dies of alleged med mal? f*ck the lawyer, the 25 years of economic damages sitting here, I'm calling 7 on your side. what makes you think calling the press is what normal people do in these situations?