Saborlas: Oh, so having the BACKUP singer sound like Cookie Monster, instead of the LEAD singer, is a major difference?

Howabout you go be a little biatch somewhere else.

WEPA!

HighZoolander: Here's more from Matriarch, plus a better audio (studio) version of Profanity

Sinful Decadence (new window)

Sacred Heresy (new window)

Profanity (new window)

/love this band

Thanks for those. The live version was unlistenable. The operatic thing was a nice departure from the norm.

The only headbanging these ladies should be doing is against the headboard of my bed.

/I keed

They are impressive in their use of odd vocalisations and I was frightened by the potent, otherworldy noises they were making. I am sure it portends some arrival of the evil spawn of something or other. Or perhaps they were announcing that they were the evil spawn of something or other. They were most decidedly awe inspiring enough for anyone to draw that conclusion. It gives one pause, enough to consider the chilling forces that might be unleashed by the import of their utterances. I wonder what sort of power is at their command?

HighZoolander: Saborlas: Oh, so having the BACKUP singer sound like Cookie Monster, instead of the LEAD singer, is a major difference?

The difference is that they've got three different vocal styles, all playing off each other. It's not a distinction between lead/backing vocals, but more like a 3-person chorus with different styles as well as pitches (gutteral/bass, raspy/tenor, opera/soprano).

Yeah, it's like they mixed caviar, puke and blood together, with similar results.

Love the operatic vocals. The gutteral stuff detracts.

/more of a Maynard-style fan myself

The kind of girls you could fall in hate with...

With Rammstein I can at least understand the lyrics.

I don't speak a lick of German.

/But I lick a German every chance I get, the Mrs.

Yma Sumac is unimpressed.

HighZoolander: dehehn: HighZoolander: Saborlas: Oh, so having the BACKUP singer sound like Cookie Monster, instead of the LEAD singer, is a major difference?

The difference is that they've got three different vocal styles, all playing off each other. It's not a distinction between lead/backing vocals, but more like a 3-person chorus with different styles as well as pitches (gutteral/bass, raspy/tenor, opera/soprano).

Yeah, it's like they mixed caviar, puke and blood together, with similar results.

What are you, some kind of foodie?

Whale biologist.

I liked it. If their throats get sore from all the singing, they're free to gargle my ball bag anytime they want.

I just farking wish death metal or whatever the hell you kids call it these days, would stop "singing" and just play. I'd rather listen to that then screaming in a mic and calling it lyrics.

Some of my favorite Atlanta metal/sludge:

Irreversible Link (new window)

Whores Link (new window)

fluffytuff: I just farking wish death metal or whatever the hell you kids call it these days, would stop "singing" and just play. I'd rather listen to that then screaming in a mic and calling it lyrics.

Look up early Insomnium or Amon Amarth. It's heavy, heavy stuff, but the growling vocals don't sound out of place, and the guitars can go nuts.

the cookie monster reminds me of Liz Schall from Dreaming Dead (and one-time member of The Iron Maidens).

petite latina black metal chicks ftw.

fluffytuff: you kids

Harsh vocals in metal have been around for almost 30 years. This isn't some new trend that's taken off in the past five years.

anyways, new Teitanblood is amazing, as expected.

SPna15: fluffytuff: you kids

Harsh vocals in metal have been around for almost 30 years. This isn't some new trend that's taken off in the past five years.

anyways, new Teitanblood is amazing, as expected.

It has, however, become the mainstream face of metal in recent years as kids dive further and further into obscure subgenres to further differentiate themselves.

I AM MORE TRVE
NO I AM
NO I AM, NOT YOU

So things that were less obscure are becoming more obscure, and pissing off those who didn't like the obscurity of it all.

DeathByGeekSquad: the mainstream face of metal

DeathByGeekSquad: as kids dive further and further into obscure subgenres

?

Not sure I understand what you're trying to say, so I might be responding to a completly unrelated point:

Your argument is pretty dumb because the "more tr00 than you" attitude is only held by kids just getting into the underground stuff and manchildren. When people say "don't listen to [mainstream band], listen to this [obscure band]" it's not out of an attempt to seem more 'tr00' or kvlt' or whateverthef*ck. Rather, it is out of a genuine belief that the obscure stuff that they are promoting is genuinely better than the mainstream stuff.

And black and death metal have been around almost as long as the NWOBHM and thrash bands, so people acting like it's some sort of new trend that's only taken root in the last five years annoys the f*ck out of me, as it gives the impression that these are old people who listened to metal back in the 80's, fell out of it in the 90's, and think Testament is a really obscure band. Now they're confused about this "newfangled" death metal all the kids are playing, unaware of the 20+ years of history the genre has.

And even though harsh vocals are the predominant style in metal nowadays, it's not like clean vocals have gone away. Power metal, trad metal (both older bands and newer revival bands), doom, and thrash haven't gone anywhere. If you truly want shiat with clean vocals, ask in a non-douchey manner without making an unoriginal cookie monster joke, and people will be more than willing to point you in the direction of good clean vocalled bands. Hell, last week a lot of us were geeking out over Pagan Altar and Pallbearer, two bands who don't use harsh vocals at all.

SPna15: DeathByGeekSquad: the mainstream face of metal

DeathByGeekSquad: as kids dive further and further into obscure subgenres

?

Not sure I understand what you're trying to say, so I might be responding to a completly unrelated point:

Your argument is pretty dumb because the "more tr00 than you" attitude is only held by kids just getting into the underground stuff and manchildren. When people say "don't listen to [mainstream band], listen to this [obscure band]" it's not out of an attempt to seem more 'tr00' or kvlt' or whateverthef*ck. Rather, it is out of a genuine belief that the obscure stuff that they are promoting is genuinely better than the mainstream stuff.

And black and death metal have been around almost as long as the NWOBHM and thrash bands, so people acting like it's some sort of new trend that's only taken root in the last five years annoys the f*ck out of me, as it gives the impression that these are old people who listened to metal back in the 80's, fell out of it in the 90's, and think Testament is a really obscure band. Now they're confused about this "newfangled" death metal all the kids are playing, unaware of the 20+ years of history the genre has.

And even though harsh vocals are the predominant style in metal nowadays, it's not like clean vocals have gone away. Power metal, trad metal (both older bands and newer revival bands), doom, and thrash haven't gone anywhere. If you truly want shiat with clean vocals, ask in a non-douchey manner without making an unoriginal cookie monster joke, and people will be more than willing to point you in the direction of good clean vocalled bands. Hell, last week a lot of us were geeking out over Pagan Altar and Pallbearer, two bands who don't use harsh vocals at all.

Yeah, you missed it.

Remove the portions in the final paragraph attempting to educate me about clean vocals (currently jamming to Insomnium by the way), add in the realization that people who biatch about clean vocals are feeling threatened because their forms of metal are no longer as mainstream as they once were, and bang your head like you just don't care - because in the end I don't. Metal is Metal, there are shiat bands on all sides of the fence.

I'll bet the neighbors are thrilled

That was pathetically awful. Even their studio stuff sucks dog dick. Worst band i've heard in some time. I'd hit them though. Hard. in the neck so that wretched noise they call singing would stop.

I'll give them one thing, they have discovered a new way to suck.

Saborlas: Oh, so having the BACKUP singer sound like Cookie Monster, instead of the LEAD singer, is a major difference?

Tom Waits sounds like Doctor Teeth anyway.

I made it through almost 30 seconds, then I felt some throw up in the back of my mouth....

barefoot in the head: They are impressive in their use of odd vocalisations and I was frightened by the potent, otherworldy noises they were making. I am sure it portends some arrival of the evil spawn of something or other. Or perhaps they were announcing that they were the evil spawn of something or other. They were most decidedly awe inspiring enough for anyone to draw that conclusion. It gives one pause, enough to consider the chilling forces that might be unleashed by the import of their utterances. I wonder what sort of power is at their command?

They announce the arrival of the end of patriarchy, and all men, everywhere, should be scared of women like these. They have many male fans who don't even like the music but fantacize about having hot demonic love with something that seems innocent, just like middle-aged women do about Justin Bieber. They will turn men into their slaves, and not in a good, clean fun, role-playing way. Men who come under the sway of these amazing harpies will become subservient to women, and probably very, very deaf.

DeathByGeekSquad: It has, however, become the mainstream face of metal in recent years as kids dive further and further into obscure subgenres to further differentiate themselves.


herp^derp

Nina Hagen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibrRfQ0ppPw&feature=related

minnesotaboy: The kind of girls you could fall in hate with...

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Most of them are pretty fug, but the blonde chick on the left is pretty good looking.

fluffytuff: I just farking wish death metal or whatever the hell you kids call it these days, would stop "singing" and just play. I'd rather listen to that then screaming in a mic and calling it lyrics.

This. The instrumental stuff is fine, but the cookie monster stuff is simply unlistenable, laughably lame, and a transparent band aid that says "we can't find a real singer".

/Yer on my lawn
//\m/

SPna15:
And even though harsh vocals are the predominant style in metal nowadays, it's not like clean vocals have gone away. Power metal, trad metal (both older bands and newer revival bands), doom, and thrash haven't gone anywhere. If you truly want shiat with clean vocals, ask in a non-douchey manner without making an unoriginal cookie monster joke, and people will be more than willing to point you in the direction of good clean vocalled bands. Hell, last week a lot of us were geeking out over Pagan Altar and Pallbearer, two bands who don't use harsh vocals at all.

OK, SPna15, fair enough--I admit to not reading the whole thread before reading your well-reasoned post. I also admit to not having heard every single act in the genre in some time, certainly--but it seems that most heavy stuff I've heard lately has had a strong dose of the green furry guy in need of a throat lozenge. I find myself thinking "Wow, nice riff, good playing, and I've gotta turn this white-noise "vocal" stuff off". Disappointing.

/Thanks, will check out your recommendations

I can't stand it when a chick does that gutteral screaming thing. Guys, its ok.

Happy Hours: SPna15: fluffytuff: you kids

Harsh vocals in metal have been around for almost 30 years. This isn't some new trend that's taken off in the past five years..

Your point being?

It's 2012. Get out of the f*cking 80's. Music you like is still getting made, you just now have to make an effort to find it.

Well one thing is for sure. These women know how to suck and blow.

Certainly You Jest: I also admit to not having heard every single act in the genre in some time

what a load of herp^derp
that would probably be impossible in a lifetime .

Certainly You Jest: but it seems that most heavy stuff I've heard lately has had a strong dose of the green furry guy in need of a throat lozenge.

Probably because that's what most of the heavy stuff is. Black and death are far and away the most popular genres now, and have been for some time. Metal releases per year, broken down by genre:



fluffytuff: I just farking wish death metal or whatever the hell you kids call it these days, would stop "singing" and just play. I'd rather listen to that then screaming in a mic and calling it lyrics.

There's plenty great instrumental metal out there. You need Blotted Science (new window).

HighZoolander: Here's more from Matriarch, plus a better audio (studio) version of Profanity

Never heard of them before. Interesting stuff.

Been listening to Cormorant's Dwellings (new window). One of the most original metal albums I've heard in a long time.

Leader O'Cola: Certainly You Jest: I also admit to not having heard every single act in the genre in some time

what a load of herpderp
that would probably be impossible in a lifetime .

Looking at your profile, you're obviously hardcore, and I defer--I welcome your recommendations for clean-vocals acts.

I got an onion on my belt and I grew up on Sabbath/Priest/Maiden/etc.

Not herpy-derpy, just old-school, and want to find some stuff to listen to on the commute that doesn't make me curious if my car is having some kind of mechanical failure.

If the musicianship and the riffing is REALLY great, I can deal with some harsh vocals--but I'd prefer the same with clean vocals, that's all. I guess it's what you grow up with.

HighZoolander: Certainly You Jest:

I got an onion on my belt and I grew up on Sabbath/Priest/Maiden/etc.

Not herpy-derpy, just old-school, and want to find some stuff to listen to on the commute that doesn't make me curious if my car is having some kind of mechanical failure.

If the musicianship and the riffing is REALLY great, I can deal with some harsh vocals--but I'd prefer the same with clean vocals, that's all. I guess it's what you grow up with.

Here are a few things I've really enjoyed in the past year or two -

Ghost - Elizabeth (new window)
Overkill - The Green and Black (new window)
Briton Rites - Carmilla (new window)
Thorr-Axe - Sundering of the Frost Giant (doom)
Lord Vicar - Child Witness (doom)
Essence - Lost in Violence - Blood Culture (thrash)
Hammers of Misfortune - 17th Street - The Day the City Died (progressive)
Wolf - I Will Kill Again (new window)

Those are all great. A few more from the last few years:

Hell - Plague and Fyre (new window)
Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time (new window)
Green & Wood - Banquet of Jupiter (new window)
The Sword - The Chronomancer I: Hubris (new window)
Quest for Fire - Set out Alone (new window)
Sabaton - 40:1 (new window)
Sculptured - Taking My Body Apart (new window)

Adebisi: HighZoolander: Certainly You Jest:
Sabaton - 40:1 (new window)

Sabaton is like metal by people who are having fun playing. It has the dumbest lyrics in all of music though. The war theme works for a few of their songs... but overall the lyrics are hilariously bad war-themed songs or tributes to other metal bands.

The last one I heard, "Art of War?", seemed a lot more commercial and cleaner, but it now sounds like they are going to work, and having less fun. The lyrics are still retarded though.

Adebisi: HighZoolander: Certainly You Jest:

I got an onion on my belt and I grew up on Sabbath/Priest/Maiden/etc.

Not herpy-derpy, just old-school, and want to find some stuff to listen to on the commute that doesn't make me curious if my car is having some kind of mechanical failure.

If the musicianship and the riffing is REALLY great, I can deal with some harsh vocals--but I'd prefer the same with clean vocals, that's all. I guess it's what you grow up with.

Here are a few things I've really enjoyed in the past year or two -

Ghost - Elizabeth (new window)
Overkill - The Green and Black (new window)
Briton Rites - Carmilla (new window)
Thorr-Axe - Sundering of the Frost Giant (doom)
Lord Vicar - Child Witness (doom)
Essence - Lost in Violence - Blood Culture (thrash)
Hammers of Misfortune - 17th Street - The Day the City Died (progressive)
Wolf - I Will Kill Again (new window)

Those are all great. A few more from the last few years:

Hell - Plague and Fyre (new window)
Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time (new window)
Green & Wood - Banquet of Jupiter (new window)
The Sword - The Chronomancer I: Hubris (new window)
Quest for Fire - Set out Alone (new window)
Sabaton - 40:1 (new window)
Sculptured - Taking My Body Apart (new window)


Guess I'll throw my hat into the ring. All of these bands have had releases in the past decade, and are listed in random order as they come to me:

Wuthering Heights (Power/Folk. Singer sounds like Dio)
Masterplan (Power. Singer doesn't exactly sound like Dio, but he has an album of just Dio covers and Heaven & Hell tapped him to play H&H's last show after Dio died)
Persuader (Power/Speed. Like a heavier Blind Guardian)
Manilla Road (Skip to 1:50 to get past the keyboard intro. Heavy metal. Bands been around for ever, and Mark Shelton's voice is pretty shot at this point, so Hellroadie helps him on vocals. They have a very raspy and gruff sound that occasionally drifts into death growls at some points. But the real draw here is that Shelton is one of metal's greatest guitarists)
Pagan Alter (Doom/NWOBHM. Possibly the best band ever. Terry Jones has a very nasally voice that is off-putting to a lot of people new to the band, but they really grow on you if you stick with them. Terry's son Alan is really damn good on the guitar, and has some of the best leads I've ever heard)
Voyager (Prog metal without the wank)
High Spirits (80's trad revival)
Solitude Aeturnus (Long-running American doom band. Still around, but kind of on hold while their singer Robert Lowe is working with Candlemass. Speaking of Lowe, he's probably my favorite singer in metal)
Christian Mistress (female-fronted trad revival. Quite good and they have a new album coming within the next month or so)