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2012-01-15 03:02:44 PM
The whole situation is foolish. Started by fools, will be ended by fools. Ahmadinejad will offer low rates to our "opposition (China, Russia, etc.)," and blame the US when they attack one of our many assets. It's easy politics, and anyone who can't see through it is stupider than he is.
 
2012-01-15 03:03:38 PM

wichitaleaf: Let's talk again November 7th. Lots of things can happen between now and then but I believe we are in for a potential landslide. Many people, in my opinion, are just not liking the whole Obama hope and change thing.
Just one guys opinion.


Right, because people will certainly vote for those that hate blacks, gays, homosexuals, muslims, and the poor. Bullshiat. Or maybe your thinking they'll vote for the people that boo gays in the military. Right? Or the people that cheer the death of the uninsured. Maybe you mean the people that put an Obama death threat on bumperstickers passing them off as a bible verse. Am I close? Or maybe you mean the people that blocked tax cuts for the working class last December? I could go on but most of the people here already know the rest.

Yup, people are sure tired of Obama and just want these crazy farks back in power. I just know they do.
 
2012-01-15 03:03:50 PM
In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel
 
2012-01-15 03:04:36 PM

Somacandra: imprimere: HOWEVER, I want the US to take absolutely no major role in retaliation, other than embargos and a complete cutoff. Then, if more than nasty letters are issued, let the US provide NO MORE money, troops or weapons than any other nation.

[i.imgur.com image 320x415]

Sorry, but the ink is already dry on this deal for the US and the Saudis.


Yes, well what I want and what is seldom intersect.

There is no way that giving technology and aid in the form of weapons to peoples, who can clearly police themselves, will result in anything negative. After all, Pakistand has been nothing but a loyal ally.
 
2012-01-15 03:04:56 PM

nicoffeine: Ahmadinejad Ali Khamenei will offer low rates to our "opposition (China, Russia, etc.),"


Global fungible markets.
 
2012-01-15 03:07:00 PM

nicoffeine: The whole situation is foolish. Started by fools, will be ended by fools. Ahmadinejad will offer low rates to our "opposition (China, Russia, etc.)," and blame the US when they attack one of our many assets. It's easy politics, and anyone who can't see through it is stupider than he is.


U.S & U.K started it when they invaded Iraq and killed Iran's main enemy

No, actually US started it when they violently overthrew an elected government to insert their goon as power

Do the world a big favour and stay out of everyone's business ..it always seems to backfire somehow

Oh and quit assassinating Iranian scientists

The world is not on the side of the U.S and Israel
 
2012-01-15 03:07:10 PM

HempHead: dalovindj: Iran seems to be using the nation-state version of the GOP playbook. What is good for your party is secondary to vigorously opposing the opposition. Even if that strategy means you will ultimately be decimated. For the GOP it means getting destroyed at the polls in the coming elections, but if Iran keeps this shiat up their destruction will be of a more literal sort.

An oil embargo and flying drones is an act of war by the US against Iran.

Can you imagine if Iran started flying armed drones over Washington DC or announced an embargo of corn?

Iran is the 3rd biggest oil exporter...this is all leading us to another patriotic war in the Middle East.

VIVA USA!


An embargo is in no way a war against anyone. Violating sovereign airspace is definitely provocation, but not in itself an act of war.

Also, the US isn't responsible for Iran's rhetoric and/or actions.

Don't let that get in the way of your derp, though.
 
2012-01-15 03:08:14 PM

Party Boy: Even Cheney railed against them.


If he's against it, I'm for it. Nuff said.
 
2012-01-15 03:08:59 PM

ontariolightning: While the U.S is busy in Asia .. Canada is quietly rebuilding its military and building super prisons to put in American POW's for when we make our invasion


We're rallying the rednecks to defend against the perilous 101st Flying V Goose Squadron and the stout 10th Mounted Moose Division.
 
2012-01-15 03:09:49 PM

Oznog: I'm trying to understand the big picture here...


Short reading.

The Politics of the U.S. Economic Sanctions against Iran (PDF)
 
2012-01-15 03:10:24 PM

ontariolightning: nicoffeine: The whole situation is foolish. Started by fools, will be ended by fools. Ahmadinejad will offer low rates to our "opposition (China, Russia, etc.)," and blame the US when they attack one of our many assets. It's easy politics, and anyone who can't see through it is stupider than he is.

U.S & U.K started it when they invaded Iraq and killed Iran's main enemy

No, actually US started it when they violently overthrew an elected government to insert their goon as power

Do the world a big favour and stay out of everyone's business ..it always seems to backfire somehow

Oh and quit assassinating Iranian scientists

The world is not on the side of the U.S and Israel


The British Empire started it!
 
2012-01-15 03:10:41 PM

ox45tallboy: If he's against it, I'm for it. Nuff said.


Cheney is against choking on his own vomit and having knives stuck up his ass, too.
 
2012-01-15 03:10:47 PM

Party Boy: Amos Quito: Perhaps it's time that America review the definition of "friends" vs that of "enemies".

Well, if you got your news here, it would be pretty hard to come to any conclusion but "hurr, lets go invade.. glass parking derp."



I don't think most Farkers (or Americans) have a clue as to what the actual stakes are in this little fiasco.

Both China and Russia are very interested, and neither are amused with our little game.


/I think that Putin is of particular interest
//Wild card
 
2012-01-15 03:12:26 PM

ontariolightning: In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel


lolWUT?
 
2012-01-15 03:12:51 PM

nicoffeine: ontariolightning: nicoffeine: The whole situation is foolish. Started by fools, will be ended by fools. Ahmadinejad will offer low rates to our "opposition (China, Russia, etc.)," and blame the US when they attack one of our many assets. It's easy politics, and anyone who can't see through it is stupider than he is.

U.S & U.K started it when they invaded Iraq and killed Iran's main enemy

No, actually US started it when they violently overthrew an elected government to insert their goon as power

Do the world a big favour and stay out of everyone's business ..it always seems to backfire somehow

Oh and quit assassinating Iranian scientists

The world is not on the side of the U.S and Israel

The British Empire started it!


you both started it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
 
2012-01-15 03:12:52 PM

ontariolightning: In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel


It doesn't matter. The world doesn't hate Canada. They hate the US. That's what power is all about. The biggest fire hydrant is the one that puts out the fire.
 
2012-01-15 03:13:24 PM

Amos Quito: I don't think most Farkers (or Americans) have a clue as to what the actual stakes are in this little fiasco.


Considering recent leaks, I'm skeptical the same game from 2002 can be played today. The media is predictably shiat-tacular, though.
 
2012-01-15 03:14:44 PM

Digital Communist: ontariolightning: In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel

lolWUT?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/01/05/harper-iran.html

"Your listeners should be under no illusion, Iran is a very serious threat to international peace and security. In my judgment, it is the world's most serious threat to international peace and security," Harper said during an appearance on the Rutherford Show, an Alberta-wide radio call-in program.

Harper also said he has no doubt Iran wants a nuclear weapon and would be prepared to use one.

"This is a regime that wants to acquire nuclear weapons ... and has indicated some desire to actually use nuclear weapons," he said.
 
2012-01-15 03:14:49 PM

nicoffeine: ontariolightning: nicoffeine: The whole situation is foolish. Started by fools, will be ended by fools. Ahmadinejad will offer low rates to our "opposition (China, Russia, etc.)," and blame the US when they attack one of our many assets. It's easy politics, and anyone who can't see through it is stupider than he is.

U.S & U.K started it when they invaded Iraq and killed Iran's main enemy

No, actually US started it when they violently overthrew an elected government to insert their goon as power

Do the world a big favour and stay out of everyone's business ..it always seems to backfire somehow

Oh and quit assassinating Iranian scientists

The world is not on the side of the U.S and Israel

The British Empire started it!



That sir, is a valid point.
(new window)
 
2012-01-15 03:15:33 PM

Carousel Beast: An embargo is in no way a war against anyone. Violating sovereign airspace is definitely provocation, but not in itself an act of war.

Also, the US isn't responsible for Iran's rhetoric and/or actions.

Don't let that get in the way of your derp, though.


Remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? This took place many miles outside of our borders, but we said it would be an act of war.

Now remember all those bases we have in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Now go look at a map of Iran. Now look at what is on either side.

We violated their airspace in a military plane for nefarious purposes. It's not like some guy in a Cessna got lost.
 
2012-01-15 03:16:48 PM

dalovindj: HempHead: An oil embargo and flying drones is an act of war by the US against Iran.

Can you imagine if Iran started flying armed drones over Washington DC or announced an embargo of corn?

Iran is the 3rd biggest oil exporter...this is all leading us to another patriotic war in the Middle East.

Given all these givens, it is perhaps an unwise strategy to taunt the bully who is just dying for a reason to pound your ass. Whether fair or unfair, if you know that most powerful and efficient military machine the world has ever known would like to turn your country into rubble, you should maybe try a strategy that aims to avoid that outcome, rather than hasten its arrival.

As Jon Stewart said, it's as if someone in Iran has decided they don't like having working roads, buildings and infrastructure and are projecting a profitable future for themselves in the rubble business.


If the US embargoes or bombs Iran, oil will shoot to $200/brl and gas to $8/gal.

Which country, do you suppose will suffer the most?
 
2012-01-15 03:16:51 PM

nicoffeine: ontariolightning: In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel

It doesn't matter. The world doesn't hate Canada. They hate the US. That's what power is all about. The biggest fire hydrant is the one that puts out the fire.


Just so we're clear. You are saying the US has a bad global reputation because they are the most powerful nation on earth and everyone is jealous, correct?
 
2012-01-15 03:17:47 PM

Party Boy: ox45tallboy: If he's against it, I'm for it. Nuff said.

Cheney is against choking on his own vomit and having knives stuck up his ass, too.


So, I guess I'm for Cheney choking on his own vomit AND having knives shoved up his ass.
 
2012-01-15 03:18:16 PM

Amos Quito: nicoffeine: ontariolightning: nicoffeine: The whole situation is foolish. Started by fools, will be ended by fools. Ahmadinejad will offer low rates to our "opposition (China, Russia, etc.)," and blame the US when they attack one of our many assets. It's easy politics, and anyone who can't see through it is stupider than he is.

U.S & U.K started it when they invaded Iraq and killed Iran's main enemy

No, actually US started it when they violently overthrew an elected government to insert their goon as power

Do the world a big favour and stay out of everyone's business ..it always seems to backfire somehow

Oh and quit assassinating Iranian scientists

The world is not on the side of the U.S and Israel

The British Empire started it!


That sir, is a valid point. (new window)


You can think that if you want but its just as much Americas fault as it is Britains

Now we're all going to be dragged into this mess because of their foreign policy incompetence
 
2012-01-15 03:18:35 PM

Party Boy: Amos Quito: I don't think most Farkers (or Americans) have a clue as to what the actual stakes are in this little fiasco.

Considering recent leaks, I'm skeptical the same game from 2002 can be played today. The media is predictably shiat-tacular, though.



"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."
-- H. L. Mencken


/Sad
 
2012-01-15 03:19:53 PM

ontariolightning: Digital Communist: ontariolightning: In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel

lolWUT?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/01/05/harper-iran.html

"Your listeners should be under no illusion, Iran is a very serious threat to international peace and security. In my judgment, it is the world's most serious threat to international peace and security," Harper said during an appearance on the Rutherford Show, an Alberta-wide radio call-in program.

Harper also said he has no doubt Iran wants a nuclear weapon and would be prepared to use one.

"This is a regime that wants to acquire nuclear weapons ... and has indicated some desire to actually use nuclear weapons," he said.


Oh, I misunderstood. By 'getting their attention' I thought you meant nurturing a healthy relationship with them.

If you meant 'war mongering' then your post makes perfect sense, carry on.
 
2012-01-15 03:22:12 PM

ox45tallboy: So, I guess I'm for Cheney choking on his own vomit AND having knives shoved up his ass.


Dear secret service:
I do not want to reply to this post.

Thank you,
-PB
 
2012-01-15 03:23:04 PM

Digital Communist: ontariolightning: Digital Communist: ontariolightning: In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel

lolWUT?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/01/05/harper-iran.html

"Your listeners should be under no illusion, Iran is a very serious threat to international peace and security. In my judgment, it is the world's most serious threat to international peace and security," Harper said during an appearance on the Rutherford Show, an Alberta-wide radio call-in program.

Harper also said he has no doubt Iran wants a nuclear weapon and would be prepared to use one.

"This is a regime that wants to acquire nuclear weapons ... and has indicated some desire to actually use nuclear weapons," he said.

Oh, I misunderstood. By 'getting their attention' I thought you meant nurturing a healthy relationship with them.

If you meant 'war mongering' then your post makes perfect sense, carry on.


I meant by saying the most ridiculous, false claims and getting a hard on cause they were responsed to / threatened type of attention..harper is trying to get Iran to threaten Canada so that justifies joining in this next war to the public but the public is on Irans side
 
2012-01-15 03:23:33 PM

Amos Quito: "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."


Perhaps, but the media sure isn't helping here. Surprising, considering all the recent hand-wringing over their shiatty coverage in 2002-2003.
 
2012-01-15 03:25:22 PM

ontariolightning: The world is not on the side of the U.S and Israel


But that's all part of the plan. When Israel finally manages to piss the entire world off and all looks lost, G_d is supposed to swoop down on an enchanted yarmulke and save them.

It's a helluva gamble, and would be the greatest prank ever if someone just told them that so they'd go around pissing everyone off, but it's their fate to do with as they please.
 
2012-01-15 03:26:20 PM

Amos Quito: What? You want to pay $50.00 for that Chinese coffee maker than currently sells for $9.99 at Target?


In many ways, yes. I mean, your $50 hyperbole is not conducive to discussion, but I think there's a rational choice to be made in here.

Equalizing the burden of global security will help equalize global trade. Would that raise the price of Chinese goods -- yes. But that same price increase would make American-made goods more affordable in comparison. And we'd be spending less on defense, so we'd have more money for coffee makers. And our world interests and China's would be more directly aligned.

That whole set of changes could well be good overall, not just for us, but for China and the world. But why hope for world peace and fair trade when you could save $2 on a coffee maker.
 
2012-01-15 03:26:45 PM

Digital Communist: nicoffeine: ontariolightning: In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel

It doesn't matter. The world doesn't hate Canada. They hate the US. That's what power is all about. The biggest fire hydrant is the one that puts out the fire.

Just so we're clear. You are saying the US has a bad global reputation because they are the most powerful nation on earth and everyone is jealous, correct?


It has nothing to do with jealousy. It has to do with presence. If Iran pisses off Canada, what's going to happen? Nothing. You don't win the wiener contest swordfighting with Canada. Ahmadinejad doesn't want to threaten Canada, the UK, or Russia, or even Germany. He wants to show that he threatened the US and "won." That's where his virility is validated.
 
2012-01-15 03:29:21 PM

nicoffeine: Digital Communist: nicoffeine: ontariolightning: In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel

It doesn't matter. The world doesn't hate Canada. They hate the US. That's what power is all about. The biggest fire hydrant is the one that puts out the fire.

Just so we're clear. You are saying the US has a bad global reputation because they are the most powerful nation on earth and everyone is jealous, correct?

It has nothing to do with jealousy. It has to do with presence. If Iran pisses off Canada, what's going to happen? Nothing. You don't win the wiener contest swordfighting with Canada. Ahmadinejad doesn't want to threaten Canada, the UK, or Russia, or even Germany. He wants to show that he threatened the US and "won." That's where his virility is validated.


Ahmadinejad has been threatening U.K a lot actually, they are currently bitter enemies
 
2012-01-15 03:29:43 PM

Digital Communist: Just so we're clear. You are saying the US has a bad global reputation because they are the most powerful nation on earth and everyone is jealous, correct?


I don't know what he's saying, but I'm saying the US has a bad global reputation because we see ourselves as exempt from rules other countries have to follow, and we know we can get away with it because of our military might.

See:

Torture in violation of Geneva convention
Spying
Invasion of a sovereign nation (again!)
Unauthorized crossing of borders (bin Laden operation)

We would be better global citizens if we held ourselves to the same rules we expect other nations to follow, even though we were strong enough that we didn't have to.
 
2012-01-15 03:30:02 PM

mcreadyblue: If the US embargoes or bombs Iran, oil will shoot to $200/brl and gas to $8/gal.

Which country, do you suppose will suffer the most?


This is the mindset I'm talking about that is right from the GOPs playbook. "It will hurt our enemy so let's do it! Sure, our country will be bombed to the stone age, our infrastructure destroyed, and our oil taken from us anyway, but fark those other guys!"

If the other guy is greatly inconvenienced while you are crippled for life, I wouldn't really call your opponents inconvenience a win. And in any event, when the price of fossil fuels becomes too prohibitive, alternative energy will step up to take it's place. $ per watt is already experiencing a Moore's Law-like acceleration. It will take significant infrastructure investments to our aged power grids, but once that becomes the cheaper alternative it will happen. We are the Saudi Arabia of wind.
 
2012-01-15 03:30:32 PM
Little dick syndrome.

/move along
//they (Iran), aren't important
 
2012-01-15 03:31:15 PM

ontariolightning: nicoffeine: The whole situation is foolish. Started by fools, will be ended by fools. Ahmadinejad will offer low rates to our "opposition (China, Russia, etc.)," and blame the US when they attack one of our many assets. It's easy politics, and anyone who can't see through it is stupider than he is.

U.S & U.K started it when they invaded Iraq and killed Iran's main enemy

No, actually US started it when they violently overthrew an elected government to insert their goon as power

Do the world a big favour and stay out of everyone's business ..it always seems to backfire somehow

Oh and quit assassinating Iranian scientists

The world is not on the side of the U.S and Israel


This is what I'm saying. The more you piss off the US, and now by proxy Israel, the more you show that you're Bigger Than Them, the more you win. It's simple politics.
 
2012-01-15 03:31:15 PM

BarbadoSlim: I can't wait to start bombing these assholes.


I'm sure your local armed forces recruiter will be happy to help you enlist.

That is, unless you're another mother-farking spineless chickenhawk.

My money is on chickenhawk.

/veteran
 
2012-01-15 03:32:29 PM

SushiJoe: Hahahahahahaha


That was my reaction, too.
 
2012-01-15 03:32:38 PM

ontariolightning: nicoffeine: Digital Communist: nicoffeine: ontariolightning: In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel

It doesn't matter. The world doesn't hate Canada. They hate the US. That's what power is all about. The biggest fire hydrant is the one that puts out the fire.

Just so we're clear. You are saying the US has a bad global reputation because they are the most powerful nation on earth and everyone is jealous, correct?

It has nothing to do with jealousy. It has to do with presence. If Iran pisses off Canada, what's going to happen? Nothing. You don't win the wiener contest swordfighting with Canada. Ahmadinejad doesn't want to threaten Canada, the UK, or Russia, or even Germany. He wants to show that he threatened the US and "won." That's where his virility is validated.

Ahmadinejad has been threatening U.K a lot actually, they are currently bitter enemies


Another Proxy threat. I shouldn't have included the UK in my post.
 
2012-01-15 03:33:51 PM

profplump: Amos Quito: What? You want to pay $50.00 for that Chinese coffee maker than currently sells for $9.99 at Target?

In many ways, yes. I mean, your $50 hyperbole is not conducive to discussion, but I think there's a rational choice to be made in here.

Equalizing the burden of global security will help equalize global trade. Would that raise the price of Chinese goods -- yes. But that same price increase would make American-made goods more affordable in comparison. And we'd be spending less on defense, so we'd have more money for coffee makers. And our world interests and China's would be more directly aligned.

That whole set of changes could well be good overall, not just for us, but for China and the world. But why hope for world peace and fair trade when you could save $2 on a coffee maker.


$50 for a coffee maker? That's nuthin'. Mine was $450 and makes delicious espresso and grinds the beans. It even adds 2 drops of pretentiousness as it brews.

/lives in a rat's nest apartment. Loves his coffee.
 
2012-01-15 03:34:19 PM

Teen Wolf Blitzer: davidv:

Before I die, I'd like to sex a Persian chick.


I married one, no gas station or ak47 in wedding gifts though I thought that was standard. She's hot I suggest you try but they are crazy (makes it fun).
/American German
 
2012-01-15 03:34:37 PM

nicoffeine: ontariolightning: nicoffeine: Digital Communist: nicoffeine: ontariolightning: In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel

It doesn't matter. The world doesn't hate Canada. They hate the US. That's what power is all about. The biggest fire hydrant is the one that puts out the fire.

Just so we're clear. You are saying the US has a bad global reputation because they are the most powerful nation on earth and everyone is jealous, correct?

It has nothing to do with jealousy. It has to do with presence. If Iran pisses off Canada, what's going to happen? Nothing. You don't win the wiener contest swordfighting with Canada. Ahmadinejad doesn't want to threaten Canada, the UK, or Russia, or even Germany. He wants to show that he threatened the US and "won." That's where his virility is validated.

Ahmadinejad has been threatening U.K a lot actually, they are currently bitter enemies

Another Proxy threat. I shouldn't have included the UK in my post.


Iran has threatened Germany too saying they will bomb American bases in Germany
 
2012-01-15 03:35:02 PM

Party Boy: Oznog: I'm trying to understand the big picture here...

Short reading.

The Politics of the U.S. Economic Sanctions against Iran (PDF)


i50.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-15 03:35:32 PM

ox45tallboy: Digital Communist: Just so we're clear. You are saying the US has a bad global reputation because they are the most powerful nation on earth and everyone is jealous, correct?

I don't know what he's saying, but I'm saying the US has a bad global reputation because we see ourselves as exempt from rules other countries have to follow, and we know we can get away with it because of our military might.

See:

Torture in violation of Geneva convention
Spying
Invasion of a sovereign nation (again!)
Unauthorized crossing of borders (bin Laden operation)

We would be better global citizens if we held ourselves to the same rules we expect other nations to follow, even though we were strong enough that we didn't have to.


Do you believe we should have pressured Pakistan into arresting Bin Laden under international law?

(for the record, I do)
 
2012-01-15 03:36:26 PM

ontariolightning: nicoffeine: ontariolightning: nicoffeine: Digital Communist: nicoffeine: ontariolightning: In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel

It doesn't matter. The world doesn't hate Canada. They hate the US. That's what power is all about. The biggest fire hydrant is the one that puts out the fire.

Just so we're clear. You are saying the US has a bad global reputation because they are the most powerful nation on earth and everyone is jealous, correct?

It has nothing to do with jealousy. It has to do with presence. If Iran pisses off Canada, what's going to happen? Nothing. You don't win the wiener contest swordfighting with Canada. Ahmadinejad doesn't want to threaten Canada, the UK, or Russia, or even Germany. He wants to show that he threatened the US and "won." That's where his virility is validated.

Ahmadinejad has been threatening U.K a lot actually, they are currently bitter enemies

Another Proxy threat. I shouldn't have included the UK in my post.

Iran has threatened Germany too saying they will bomb American bases in Germany


American bases.
 
2012-01-15 03:37:02 PM

HempHead: dalovindj: Iran seems to be using the nation-state version of the GOP playbook. What is good for your party is secondary to vigorously opposing the opposition. Even if that strategy means you will ultimately be decimated. For the GOP it means getting destroyed at the polls in the coming elections, but if Iran keeps this shiat up their destruction will be of a more literal sort.

An oil embargo and flying drones is an act of war by the US against Iran.

Can you imagine if Iran started flying armed drones over Washington DC or announced an embargo of corn?

Iran is the 3rd biggest oil exporter...this is all leading us to another patriotic war in the Middle East.

VIVA USA!


-50/10

Yes, you trolled THAT badly.
 
2012-01-15 03:37:27 PM

ox45tallboy: Party Boy: Oznog: I'm trying to understand the big picture here...

Short reading.

The Politics of the U.S. Economic Sanctions against Iran (PDF)

[i50.photobucket.com image 330x282]


Understanding the context in this subject isn't even adequately covered in a 300+ page book.
 
2012-01-15 03:38:59 PM

nicoffeine: ontariolightning: nicoffeine: ontariolightning: nicoffeine: Digital Communist: nicoffeine: ontariolightning: In all serious Canadian PM Stephen Harper has been trying his hardest to get Iranian attention but is still not mentioned when they threaten U.S, Britain, Israel

It doesn't matter. The world doesn't hate Canada. They hate the US. That's what power is all about. The biggest fire hydrant is the one that puts out the fire.

Just so we're clear. You are saying the US has a bad global reputation because they are the most powerful nation on earth and everyone is jealous, correct?

It has nothing to do with jealousy. It has to do with presence. If Iran pisses off Canada, what's going to happen? Nothing. You don't win the wiener contest swordfighting with Canada. Ahmadinejad doesn't want to threaten Canada, the UK, or Russia, or even Germany. He wants to show that he threatened the US and "won." That's where his virility is validated.

Ahmadinejad has been threatening U.K a lot actually, they are currently bitter enemies

Another Proxy threat. I shouldn't have included the UK in my post.

Iran has threatened Germany too saying they will bomb American bases in Germany

American bases.


American bases yes but bombings on German territory would also be an act of war towards Germany would it not? and why would Iran threaten Russia? why even include them
 
2012-01-15 03:42:11 PM

ontariolightning: and why would Iran threaten Russia? why even include them


Especially when Russia is Iran's ally. Pretty sure the only reason Iran hasn't been invaded yet is because Russia said it would step in if that happened.
 
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