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The rising number of hazing incidents--including a recent one where wrestlers sodomized teammates with jump rope--are worrying coaches. Not because it's illegal and disgusting, but because it sullies the storied history of their teams
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namatad
2012-01-15 02:28:58 PM
so easy to fix
ban the schools from competing for at least 10 years while the report is investigated
tada problem solved
this also solves the whole penn state pedophile ring problem
ban penn state from competing for the next 10 years while the investigation of who knew what and when is being determined ...
:D
Mugato
2012-01-15 02:31:50 PM
Who would think that a bunch of high school guys who like to roll around on each other in various positions would be into homosexual hazing rituals? Save that shiat for when you join a fraternity.
basemetal
2012-01-15 03:57:58 PM
When I played football in high school, our hazing happened on the first real muddy day. Noobs were expected to put on a slip and slide demonstration in the mud puddles. If you didn't volunteer, you were dragged through the mud. I only remember one or two people that had to be dragged, and that's because their mom had just cleaned their practice stuff.
/it's football dude, stuff gets dirty
doglover
2012-01-15 04:17:30 PM
namatad
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so easy to fix
Yea, talk to your grandpa, realize it's natural for two things:
1. Hazing to happen.
2. Wrestling to be mock sodomy.
It's only a matter of time until someone shoves SOMETHING up a butt in any locker room.
AbbeySomeone
2012-01-15 04:29:22 PM
doglover
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namatad: so easy to fix
Yea, talk to your grandpa, realize it's natural for two things:
1. Hazing to happen.
2. Wrestling to be mock sodomy.
It's only a matter of time until someone shoves SOMETHING up a butt in any locker room.
What's up with sports and latent homosexual incidents? There does seem to be quite a bit of it coming out lately.
Aarontology
2012-01-15 04:32:12 PM
AbbeySomeone
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doglover: namatad: so easy to fix
Yea, talk to your grandpa, realize it's natural for two things:
1. Hazing to happen.
2. Wrestling to be mock sodomy.
It's only a matter of time until someone shoves SOMETHING up a butt in any locker room.
What's up with sports and latent homosexual incidents? There does seem to be quite a bit of it coming out lately.
I think it's probably one of those things where it's always been there, but only recently reported on.
doglover
2012-01-15 04:41:44 PM
AbbeySomeone
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doglover: namatad: so easy to fix
Yea, talk to your grandpa, realize it's natural for two things:
1. Hazing to happen.
2. Wrestling to be mock sodomy.
It's only a matter of time until someone shoves SOMETHING up a butt in any locker room.
What's up with sports and latent homosexual incidents? There does seem to be quite a bit of it coming out lately.
No. It's actually been there the whole time. If anything it's gone down. It's like rape. If you check the hard numbers, there's a lot less rape these days than ever. (Same for all the violent crimes.) But if you check the news it seems like there's 1000% increase in it each year. Not so. We're just hearing about it.
Was a time when correspondence was precious and "news" meant something. I mean, who didn't grow up knowing Catholic priest jokes about them farkin' the altar boys? My grandpa used to tell them and he passed on nearly 5 years before the first actual case popped up in the news. And all the teacher-student relationships. I've met more than one couple who first met in the classroom like that. Many are STILL married.
So the hazing is one of those things you can see from a mile away and the potential damage is like nil 99% of the time but everyone wants that to be 100% so they freak out and push too hard, which never works, and the end result is everyone's unhappy and some poor schlub now has a jump rope up his butt instead of shaving cream in his face because the kids were never taught how to haze properly.
So I blame the people who are against hazing. Bans don't work.
I_Am_Weasel
2012-01-15 05:18:47 PM
doglover
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namatad: so easy to fix
Yea, talk to your grandpa, realize it's natural for two things:
1. Hazing to happen.
2. Wrestling to be mock sodomy.
It's only a matter of time until someone shoves SOMETHING up a butt in any locker room.
Maybe those who complain about being sodomized are just being too anal.
TheOther
2012-01-15 05:23:46 PM
Coach, they used your favorite jump rope.
Teen Wolf Blitzer
2012-01-15 06:07:01 PM
Wanted for questioning:
Pincy
2012-01-15 06:10:05 PM
Wrestling is a gay sport anyway so no big surprise really.
Teen Wolf Blitzer
2012-01-15 06:12:01 PM
Most women's vaginas go up to 10. Hers goes up to 11.
BarbadoSlim
2012-01-15 06:14:34 PM
Hehehehe, sodomizing your buddy on the team has nothing to do with sports. And now that I think about it, neither does greco-roman wrastlin'
Kumana Wanalaia
2012-01-15 06:16:12 PM
doglover
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namatad: so easy to fix
Yea, talk to your grandpa
Back in my day, we were called pole fancies! And it wasn't this cappuccino and featherduster gay, people got hurt! We used to play ring stick and penis butt.
That's gay.
Yeah, it was pretty gay.
Herr Flick's Revenge
2012-01-15 06:19:43 PM
doglover
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namatad: so easy to fix
Yea, talk to your grandpa, realize it's natural for two things:
1. Hazing to happen.
2. Wrestling to be mock sodomy.
It's only a matter of time until someone shoves SOMETHING up a butt in any locker room.
Dude, I don't know where the hell you went to school or what you participated in-no. Just no.
I was on swim team all through high school, no hazing was tolerated or allowed-not even sodomy.
krackpipe
2012-01-15 06:22:02 PM
Pincy
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Wrestling is a gay sport anyway so no big surprise really.
Are you an expert on being gay or just an expert on wrestling?
wellreadneck
2012-01-15 06:22:06 PM
One, two... pack his poo
Three , four ... in his back door
Five, six... but I don't like dicks
Seven, eight... and I won't fellate
Kumana Wanalaia
2012-01-15 06:22:40 PM
doglover
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namatad: so easy to fix
Yea, talk to your grandpa
Kid: Tell me about when you were young, Grandpa.
Grandpa: Oh, sonny, those were crazy times. My friends and I were out of control. We used to give each other wet-willies and funny-arms. We'd play dandy-balls and legs-a-spread and penis-butt.
Kid: Sounds kind of gay, Grandpa.
Grandpa: It was gay! Everyone was! But, back then we were called pole-fancies. It was real, good old-fashioned "grab the nearest tree and hold on for dear life" gay, not today's fancy, feather-bed, thread-count gay. People got hurt back then!
Kid: That's gay.
Grandpa: Yeah, it was pretty gay.
Maechyll
2012-01-15 06:26:03 PM
Clicked hoping to see female wrestler getting finger-sodomized by another female wrestler. You sick farks are slipping.
phalamir
2012-01-15 06:26:26 PM
doglover
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So I blame the people who are against hazing. Bans don't work.
So the people who are not farking morons are causing the farking morons to be farking morons? The farking morons have no ability to do anything except whatever non-farking-morons tell them not to do. Okay; don't put the barrel of a loaded gun in your mouth and pull the trigger. I forbid you to do that!
Also, I don't see a large amount of chattel slavery going on - evidently bans do work. We just need to enforce the ban better. What needs to happen is that every time some group is discovered hazing, all members, support staff, and relatives of the members and support staff need to be hung from a lamp-post. Remove the weak-gened, i.e the hazers, from the breeding population and we can beat this congenital defect. Instead, we allow degenerate bloodlines to propagate, and the rest of us non-retards then have to deal with hazers and their wasteful use of medical services meant for actual homo sapiens.
LDM90
2012-01-15 06:30:03 PM
If anyone dunks his balls in another guy's mouth, they call himgay.
If a sporto does it, they call it hazing.
/things that make you go hmm
JasonOfOrillia
2012-01-15 06:36:17 PM
LDM90
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If anyone dunks his balls in another guy's mouth, they call himgay.
If a sporto does it, they call it hazing.
/things that make you go hmm
It's not about sex it is about dominance. And maybe a little sex.
FrancoFile
2012-01-15 06:39:23 PM
LDM90
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If anyone dunks his balls in another guy's mouth, they call himgay.
If a
sporto
does it, they call it hazing.
/things that make you go hmm
What about the dweebs and motorheads?
rockradio1
2012-01-15 07:04:19 PM
Pincy
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Wrestling is a gay sport anyway so no big surprise really.
Walk up to any Big Ten university wrestler in person and say that.
I dare ya.
drjekel_mrhyde
2012-01-15 07:04:53 PM
Why do white males find it funny to teabag another male.
Teen Wolf Blitzer
2012-01-15 07:05:11 PM
rockradio1
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Pincy: Wrestling is a gay sport anyway so no big surprise really.
Walk up to any Big Ten university wrestler in person and say that.
I dare ya.
No thanks, I don't want to get anally raped.
Allen. The end.
2012-01-15 07:06:31 PM
STILL with this??? The non-academic fraternal organizations should be completely eradicated. It's just BS.
/in before the "
I met my best friends in the frat"
bunch...
/rapists
Mugato
2012-01-15 07:07:46 PM
rockradio1
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Pincy: Wrestling is a gay sport anyway so no big surprise really.
Walk up to any Big Ten university wrestler in person and say that.
I dare ya.
Kicking his ass wouldn't necessarily disprove his point. Especially if he sodomized him while doing it.
Mavent
2012-01-15 07:07:59 PM
FrancoFile
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LDM90: If anyone dunks his balls in another guy's mouth, they call himgay.
If a sporto does it, they call it hazing.
/things that make you go hmm
What about the dweebs and motorheads?
They all think he's a righteous dude.
Mugato
2012-01-15 07:10:41 PM
drjekel_mrhyde
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Why do white males find it funny to teabag another male.
In a first person shooter it's funny. IRL it's a homosexual act disguised as a prank to make it more "acceptable".
oukewldave
2012-01-15 07:10:52 PM
LDM90
:
If anyone dunks his balls in another guy's mouth, they call himgay.
If a sporto does it, they call it hazing.
/things that make you go hmm
No, the guy with the balls in his mouth is the only gay one. Get it right, homo!
Mugato
2012-01-15 07:11:42 PM
Allen. The end.
:
/in before the "I met my best friends in the frat" bunch...
"And how much did those friends cost again?"
Need_MindBleach
2012-01-15 07:12:06 PM
Let's be fair, wrestling wasn't exactly the most heterosexual sport to begin with.
TrainedWalrus
2012-01-15 07:21:22 PM
doglover
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AbbeySomeone: doglover: namatad: so easy to fix
Yea, talk to your grandpa, realize it's natural for two things:
1. Hazing to happen.
2. Wrestling to be mock sodomy.
It's only a matter of time until someone shoves SOMETHING up a butt in any locker room.
What's up with sports and latent homosexual incidents? There does seem to be quite a bit of it coming out lately.
No. It's actually been there the whole time. If anything it's gone down. It's like rape. If you check the hard numbers, there's a lot less rape these days than ever. (Same for all the violent crimes.) But if you check the news it seems like there's 1000% increase in it each year. Not so. We're just hearing about it.
Was a time when correspondence was precious and "news" meant something. I mean, who didn't grow up knowing Catholic priest jokes about them farkin' the altar boys? My grandpa used to tell them and he passed on nearly 5 years before the first actual case popped up in the news. And all the teacher-student relationships. I've met more than one couple who first met in the classroom like that. Many are STILL married.
So the hazing is one of those things you can see from a mile away and the
potential damage is like nil 99% of the time
but everyone wants that to be 100% so they freak out and push too hard, which never works, and the end result is everyone's unhappy and some poor schlub now has a jump rope up his butt instead of shaving cream in his face because the kids were never taught how to haze properly.
So I blame the people who are against hazing.
Bans don't work
.
Disagree with first, agree with the second.
This happened my freshman year of high school.
The girl at 3:15 getting punched in slow motion is my sister. She had to get 14 stitches and spent a good portion of the day at the hospital. This event had been "banned" for more than a decade.
Kumana Wanalaia
2012-01-15 07:24:23 PM
rockradio1
:
Pincy: Wrestling is a gay sport anyway so no big surprise really.
Walk up to any Big Ten university wrestler in person and say that.
I dare ya.
I wouldn't walk up to Mike Tyson and tell him that he's a psycho rapist.
He still is.
bravian
2012-01-15 07:27:05 PM
Useless without pictures.
ansius
2012-01-15 07:28:59 PM
If public shaming is what it takes to stop young men being brutalised by older and bigger gangs of men, then so be it. And if this is what it takes to motivate coaches to do their jobs and inculcate a culture of respect and sportsmanship in their charges, then so be it.
And I agree with Namatad. If the administrators of the games lived up to their names and booted a School out of their comps, or one of the big schools got hit hard by a civil suit (negligence of duty of care, etc etc), then you'd see a pretty big increase in the manner in which coaching staff promote a culture of respect rather than bastardry in their teams.
Initiation rituals and fun are important for team building, but there's a way to do it.
Never been a victim of hazing or bullying, but I've seen what it can do to young boys. And I've seen what can happen when boys are allowed to get away with it too.
Kumana Wanalaia
2012-01-15 07:30:53 PM
drjekel_mrhyde
:
Why do white males find it funny to teabag another male.
YOU CANNOT PASS OUT AROUND WHITE PEOPLE. Every time white dudes pass out around each-other they always do some borderline gay shiat when the guy is asleep: 'Frank fell asleep, so we like stuck a carrot in his ass, and put shaving cream on his balls'...Why motherf*cka? Why would you do that to a friend of yours; he trusted you enough to sleep around you, you gonna put a carrot in his ass? Is that nice?
-Dave Chappelle
Turbo Cojones
2012-01-15 07:33:37 PM
Teen Wolf Blitzer
:
Most women's vaginas go up to 10. Hers goes up to 11.
HMMMMMM I bet I know where you wanted to put that!
Researcher
2012-01-15 08:13:45 PM
rockradio1
:
Pincy: Wrestling is a gay sport anyway so no big surprise really.
Walk up to any Big Ten university wrestler in person and say that.
I dare ya.
Without going all cool story, bro.... I wrestled and swam, from middle school through college. I've never been, nor even seen hazing, on any team I've been on. In swimming it's pretty much solely about winning and training, in wrestling their was the added perk about dealing with the only men who will ever care about their weight in the same way women do.
Hazing is not normal.
It happens because little sociopaths get involved in sports (or the army, or the police), or anything monolithic where someone can lord something over someone else. It needs to be stamped out wherever it's found, period, end of story. It detracts from one of the few things that makes this world a more fun and livable place, ie; Sports.
And anyone who says wrestling is gay clearly has never wrestled, and probably has never played any sport to speak of. Wrestling is exhaustive, you can get hurt if you don't know what you're doing, you can end another guys career for the same reason... it's one of the purest sports there is, but of all the things to go through someone's head when their wrist is hyper extended and they're using your own shoulder to drive your face into mat and flip you over to embarrass you in front of your peers and parents "Is this gay?" is not one of them.
/Watching trolls hate on sports is amusing... sometimes.
//Happily married to an attractive and successful woman.
///realizes the farkism....
Day_Old_Dutchie
2012-01-15 08:23:56 PM
Charges against three Lisbon wrestlers....
Misread that.
Espertron
2012-01-15 08:46:37 PM
My two cents:
Hazing is strictly voluntary.
Nobody is forcing anyone to be hazed in 99.999999% cases (the 0.000001% isn't hazing. It's rape/assault. There is a difference).
Basically, one needs to ask the following quesiton: Is the pain, risk, humiliation, and embarrassment really worth it to join a bunch of douchebags' exclusive little club?
Yaxe
2012-01-15 09:13:30 PM
When I was playing football and lacrosse, we had this black kid called Dominic (who played on both teams, like myself) who was a beast. In football, this guy's tackle annihilated people, and in lacrosse, it was like he was covered in grease (I remember him going right through the middle of two defence men who doubled down on him,
without
fouling. It was insane.)
But man, that guy did some farking weird stuff. One time on scout offense, one of the 2nd string guards was pulling and ear holed Dominic. He hit the ground, got up and went on with practice, but at the next practice, the 2nd string guard went to put on his helmet and discovered a nice fat turd sitting in it. Another time, he decided to wear nothing to practice save his girdle (which is
not
underwear, more like a rash-inducing pad holder) and his pants+pads. Guy's plants slipped on one play and with ass hanging out, he just kept on going.
Maechyll
2012-01-15 10:01:33 PM
Day_Old_Dutchie
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Charges against three Lisbon wrestlers....
Misread that.
THERE it is.
Fear the Clam
2012-01-15 10:11:21 PM
Researcher
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Hazing is not normal. It happens because little sociopaths get involved in sports (or the army, or the police), or anything monolithic where someone can lord something over someone else. It needs to be stamped out wherever it's found, period, end of story. It detracts from one of the few things that makes this world a more fun and livable place, ie; Sports.
Agreed.
Wrestling is exhaustive, you can get hurt if you don't know what you're doing, you can end another guys career for the same reason.
So's buttsex. What's your point?
i upped my meds-up yours
2012-01-15 10:28:09 PM
Hazing served a purpose once. Back when there was only one way to be a man, and that involved unquestioning loyalty to the group of other men your age, anyone who had misgivings had to be taught just how shameful it was not to fall into line.
Some of the more poisonous conservatives among us would like to see those days come back, of course, just like Jim Crow and the all-male white collar workplace.
Arkanaut
2012-01-15 11:02:04 PM
What are they worried about? They still have a storied history of sodomy.
mc_madness
2012-01-16 12:14:22 AM
When are we going to let young men be men?
This is just natural. Young people discovering themselves.
/Let them sort things out and get this liberal namby pamby stuff out of dodge...
profplump
2012-01-16 04:45:01 AM
namatad
:
so easy to fix
ban the schools from competing for at least 10 years while the report is investigated
tada problem solved
Wouldn't that just discourage reporting? Shouldn't the rule be "report
all
incidents to the police; failure to report is a ban"?
Then we can use the justice system to hold the people responsible for the assault accountable, and we can only punish the school and its students if they obstruct justice.
doglover
2012-01-16 05:30:45 AM
TrainedWalrus
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The girl at 3:15 getting punched in slow motion is my sister. She had to get 14 stitches and spent a good portion of the day at the hospital.
And I could find 99 girls who didn't get hurt pledging for their sororities.
Hence 99%. The 1% will ALWAYS get hurt. It's just life.
But if you teach people how to haze in ways that AREN'T sticking a jump rope up the ass or beating down someone like a gang jump in, most people are fine.
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