It's not a coyright violation because the pro-SOPA propaganda was meant to be copied.

On the other hand, it is a sign of a weak, easily-bought mind.

It's no stealing if you're a shill repeating what your overlords have written for you.

"Could some quotes be put around those certain issues? Yeah. Is it plagiarism? No," Shurtleff said.

Yeah it is. If your little snowflakes get caught doing this on a term paper, some colleges will actually flunk and/or expell them.

He wants to protect "consumers"? Consumers of what, federal prison cells?

ZAZ: It's not a coyright violation because the pro-SOPA propaganda was meant to be copied.

But was it meant for people who copied it to take credit for it as if those were their own words and ideas? Because that's what's relevant.

This is not rocket science. If you use the work of others and do not credit them, it is plagiarism. Basic academics there. If you use the intellectual property of others for profit that's theft.

If you use a guy with who doesn't know the difference to enforce the law, you'll get no justice.

RandomAxe: ZAZ: It's not a coyright violation because the pro-SOPA propaganda was meant to be copied.

But was it meant for people who copied it to take credit for it as if those were their own words and ideas? Because that's what's relevant.

It is nicely ironic and hilarious.

RandomAxe

I think it was intended to be copied verbatim. That's a standard PR tactic. Newspapers don't want to reprint a generic letter from a big organization. They want to print a unique, local opinion. The goal is to take the company's generic letter and present it as written by somebody local.

Nowadays you get the same behavior on blogs and stories with comments. A company has "concerned citizens" echo the party line.

ALEC walks away shuffling his feet and whistling.

ZAZ: It's not a coyright violation because the pro-SOPA propaganda was meant to be copied.

On the other hand, it is a sign of a weak, easily-bought mind.

not only that but...when you think about it, calling this guy's actions plagiarism is a perfect response to RIAA's tactics. sure - you COULD point out that this is nothing more than boilerplate industry propaganda...but that's boring. calling it plagiarism tho...well NOW you've got people's attention. Not only that, but you've put this guy on the defensive AND neutralized any help RIAA might try to give him on the propaganda front.

Chthonic Echoes: ZAZ: It's not a coyright violation because the pro-SOPA propaganda was meant to be copied.

Totally plagiarism. If he were in one of my classes, I would give him a 0 and enjoy his tears.

A perfect example of how liberal university professors scheme to drive out conservative thought by suppressing freedom of speech. Students repeat the ideas of philosophers and liberals like Soros and Chompsky all the time, and are never punished.

FTA:

"Could some quotes be put around those certain issues? Yeah. Is it plagiarism? No," Shurtleff said. "People are reciting words all the time."

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As we were all taught in school, it's ok to quote something you didn't write as long as you attribute it to whomever did.
It's alright Sheriff, you're a cop *and* an elected politician. So most likely you're an idiot at best and a lying thief at worst.
Either way, we're here to help.

ZAZ: It's not a coyright violation because the pro-SOPA propaganda was meant to be copied.

On the other hand, it is a sign of a weak, easily-bought mind.

not only that but...when you think about it, calling this guy's actions plagiarism is a perfect response to RIAA's tactics. sure - you COULD point out that this is nothing more than boilerplate industry propaganda...but that's boring. calling it plagiarism tho...well NOW you've got people's attention. Not only that, but you've put this guy on the defensive AND neutralized any help RIAA might try to give him on the propaganda front.

Wow. Who knew plagiarizing was so easy? I could do this all day long. Just copy and paste like I did in my last three posts. Woohoo!

And it doesn't feel wrong, either.

//elevator going down

Yogimus: hillary: "Could some quotes be put around those certain issues? Yeah. Is it plagiarism? No," Shurtleff said.

Yeah it is. If your little snowflakes get caught doing this on a term paper, some colleges will actually flunk and/or expell them.

In other news, college =/= real world

You ARE aware that he's trying to get the presidency seat at the University of Utah?

No Such Agency: Chthonic Echoes:
ZAZ: It's not a coyright violation because the pro-SOPA propaganda was meant to be copied.

Totally plagiarism. If he were in one of my classes, I would give him a 0 and enjoy his tears.

A perfect example of how liberal university professors scheme to drive out conservative thought by suppressing freedom of speech. Students repeat the ideas of philosophers and liberals like Soros and Chompsky all the time, and are never punished.

You know how I know you never went to college?

They credit them. Every single student that ever wrote a paper in a decent college gives credit where due, otherwise, they will lose their classes and possibly face being expelled from the college/university.

Plagiarism is a very serious offense, both professionally and academically. What makes plagarism is not merely taking the idea, no, that's actually okay and even encouraged since that fuels discourse - plagarism is not giving credit where due. If you ever take a idea from somebody, you must give credit.

It's like taking a co-workers million dollar idea to the boss and never mentioning that it was the co-worker's idea. If the credit was given - here's a shocker for you - It is no problem! Boss is happy, Co-worker is happy.

Huh. No comments in the last hour.

KNW: CrispFlows: Huh. No comments in the last hour.

no one can come up with something suitably original that won't get SOPA/RIAA on their ass

Considering that there is 70 years of copyrighted works of books, music, television and movies all enforceable to the law, I can see this conundrum happening.

That's an entirely different issue from what the thread is discussing and I am going leave it at that.

brianbankerus: My mom couldn't care less, but then again she can't find the "any" key.

Tell your mom that this could stop her from getting her lolcats.

brianbankerus: The only advocates for SOPA are shills and people who don't actually understand what it does. My mom couldn't care less, but then again she can't find the "any" key.

It's in her basement on your keyboard.

bah-duh-duh-tssssccchhhhh

//i got a million of 'em
///take my wife .... please

Benjimin_Dover: Not really. The same college that refused to revoke MLK's doctorate revoked the doctorate of a white dude. Why? Because he "didn't give credit" to the sources of portions of a speech he gave. When the speech was examined, it was shown that every single portion that wasn't his had a footnote for it. BUT since he didn't stand there for some appropriate amount of time after he was speaking reading the footnotes he was defrocked or whatever they call it. So what really matters is not whether somebody follows the rules or not but who it is that is following or not following the rules and whether or not the content is to the liking of the elites in charge.

That's why they have an ombudsman and repeal processes for this kind of thing. If the universities doesn't offer any repeal processes, it opens the universities up to lawsuits, which in the long term really hurts them.

Even though the universities has elites in charge, they are among peers and if the university is sued or has lost the appeal process, It tarnishes their reputation and risks their seats.

It's to the PHD candidate's best benefits to document everything about their education; They should document their research, doctorate presentation and defenses - everything.

It also occurs to me that it is literally impossible to encounter any field out there that does not have their own circle of elites, regardless of any affiliations of any organizations. I would prefer a constant churn in every field to prevent elitism but it happens and the cost of quality is constant vigilance, but that is also not on topic. My apologies for the digression.