Meisaims: Did anyone else go to high school? People acted like this REGARDLESS of what you did.

I don't believe anybody ever told me they were going to drop anchor on my face.

/Nice defense, dude.

vudukungfu: Anyone?
Does anyone here believe America should be free from religious intolerance?

I think the world should be free of all religion. We have enough issues with racism, bigotry and downright ignorance as it is.

CalamitousCrasher: I think the world should be free of all religion

imagine.

Thisbymaster: If atheists really think that it is all meaningless then why do little shiats like this girl care at all?

If they think that what is all meaningless?

AmorousRedDragon:

Thank you for posting those comments. I have no reason to believe these are fake, or from some other "posting," and based on what you have provided I would hope there are dozens of students who are both suspended and where the law will allow, prosecuted for these outrageous threats and taunts.

While I do believe Jessica was wrong to biatch about the banner, she, nor anyone else deserves to be treated this way, or be subject to such threats.

Thisbymaster: If atheists really think that it is all meaningless then why do little shiats like this girl care at all? Atheists acting unatheist like, impossible.

What the hell? Who says atheists think it's all meaningless? This girl obviously had strong feelings about it. You draw a bad caricature of atheists in your head. And your english is nigh illegible.

Correction: Real life troll and attention whore makes a huge stink over nothing, disrespects the cultural traditions of her fellows, costs the school district thousands of dollars which could have been better used and then is butt hurt when people resent this.

If you are going to seek attention then you have to take the good with the bad.

Oh, wait, wrong thread... OR AM I?

eraser8: Mavent: tacojohn: I'm a Christian and I thoroughly believe in a secular society.

Congratulations. Welcome to 85% of the American public. That's the point that the Fark Atheist crowd always seems to be too stupid to comprehend: there's a separation of Church and State in America because the vast majority of CHRISTIANS want it that way.

That has got to be the stupidest goddamned argument in the history of the internet.

Actually, the stupidest part was "Fark Atheists". jpo2269: vudukungfu SmartestFunniest 2012-01-14 09:46:56 PM


jpo2269: room to discuss.

Do you believe America should be completely free of religious intolerance?

Absolutely, but unfortunately that would piss our Atheist friends off as they would no longer be able to proudly display their biggotry..

You are really going to break that out in THIS thread?

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Oh look, another example of Christian bigotry and intolerance. This must be a day ending in y. Fark you Christians; every last one of you. I can't think of any other organization that has brought so much hatred, violence, intolerance, and fear to humanity as Christianity. Fark you all and fark your god.

Gee. So some FARK atheists want Christians to apologize for the comments on Facebook? How about you go first? Why don't you apologize for Don't Troll Me Bro!'s remark here on FARK? It's just as childish and hateful as the comments on FB, and what's worse, it's typical of some of the everyday posts in FARK religion threads. Where's the condemnation from the atheist crowd for such posts?

come over to agnosticism sweetie

we'll (probably) treat you ok (sometimes)

Fade2black: AmorousRedDragon: Fade2black: Atheists pushing their agenda on Christians. Christians pushing their agenda on non-believers.

That is not what is happening. Atheists do not have an agenda. The atheist you are referring to was simply stopping Christians from pushing their agenda on her. I am sorry you do not see this.

Your agenda is essentially to wipe any and all religion (except Islam, you have to be PC after all) from existence; as long as it imposes on your life. Most others manage to ignore it or turn the other way to move on. Atheists enjoy pointing out Christian hypocrisy while ignoring their own.

If you simply ignored it (because I seriously doubt religion is being FORCED on you) I'm sure you'd find most of the time, you're no worse off for wear.

Keep tootin' that horn though. Maybe someday it'll work out for you.

Welcome to /ignore, dipshiat. It's clear to me that you have nothing of value to say, and I will not trouble myself to look at your drivel further.

Also, please die in a fire as soon as possible. You're wasting precious oxygen.

dennysgod: [theframeproblem.files.wordpress.com image 350x262]

This is what I'm talking about.
I have nothing else to say now.

Antedeus: costs the school district thousands of dollars which could have been better used and then is butt hurt when people resent this.

That would be the school board.

Antedeus: Correction: Real life troll and attention whore makes a huge stink over nothing, disrespects the cultural traditions of her fellows, costs the school district thousands of dollars which could have been better used and then is butt hurt when people resent this.

If you are going to seek attention then you have to take the good with the bad.

Correction: Student who actually knows something about the Constitution points out that the 'school prayer' is blatantly unconstitutional, cultural traditions be damned.

Public institutions cannot promote a religion. Period.

wookiemonster: This is really a first world issue. Most of the world either doesn't have freedom of religion or speech, or separation of church and state.

It would be interesting to see the atheist girl try this in Europe at a Muslim school, or otherwise try this same thing with anything to do with Islam. Well, we know what would happen, as it happens every day to women in Islam.

[www.faithfreedom.org image 335x189]

If the girl felt "excluded" because of a banner (REALLY, a banner?), did she honestly think that she'd get more friends by taking the matter to FEDERAL COURT and putting the school on the five o'clock news?

Yes, the reactions to this were anti-Christian, that's for certain, but can we please stop pretending that Atheists aren't attention whore a-holes who let Atheism become their religion. Shouldn't atheists not give a shiat about such things, thus ensuring their imagined superiority over the rest of the believers?

You are an imbecile. Goodbye.

The chick is just standing up for what she believes is right. The school is in the wrong. Sure, she's an atheist, and I bet if she weren't she wouldn't care. That's what I'd like to say, but if she were a Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, anything other than Christians I wonder if she'd still suffer the same backlash? I personally wouldn't want an illegal and unconstitutional banner I didn't believe in hanging in my school auditorium. It doesn't matter what she believes or doesn't believe in. Wrong is wrong. The Holy Rollers in the school are just making themselves look bad. Good for her for standing up for what is right. Does the banner hurt anything? Of course not, but that isn't the point. People should be allowed to go to school without having religion thrown in their face. It's their basic right as a human being.

/Christian

vudukungfu SmartestFunniest 2012-01-14 10:11:31 PM


jpo2269: Absolutely,

Then kick out the intolerant religious bastards.

Sure, if you will kick out the intolerant Atheist bastards.

Thisbymaster: I right of the people to protest against those who are oppressing them in ensured in the constitution. If atheists really think that it is all meaningless then why do little shiats like this girl care at all? Atheists acting unatheist like, impossible.

1/10.
/Golf clap

Cheeseburger: So some FARK atheists want Christians to apologize for the comments on Facebook?

Who is asking for an apology? This thread is about discussing the reaction to what she did. No one is demanding Christians apologize for what the teenagers did, though it is indicative of how vitriolic religious hate can be.

natmar_76: Oh, wait, wrong thread... OR AM I?

Oh man, that picture is fantastic.

This is why I have no problem telling Christians who are evangelizing at me that it makes me sick what their role-playing game is doing to the real world.

Atheism is an absurd belief system which flies in the face of logic.

The decoding of the human genome proves the existence of a grand designer. Let that sink in for a second. God's signature is writ large in our genes. What do I have to support this outrageous thesis? Simply this: It has long been scientific orthodoxy that evolution is blind and random. In other words there is no "telos" no purpose in evolution just random mutation and selection by survival. By the logic of Richard Dawkins and the "New Atheist" movement there can be no foresight, no advance planning without a creator. So let's take their argument and turn it on its head.

In the last five years it has become clear that the Darwinian model of random mutation and selection by survival over long periods of time is only part of the picture.

What was previously thought to be junk DNA (98.5% of the human genome) is now known to be genetic switches and genetic modules. These are genes which are fully functional barring only being turned on. We have seen in several cases that these switches respond to external forces. A moth will turn from white to black in a sooty environment. Not gradually over thousands of generations but suddenly one or two generations. We can even turn these switches on in the lab. Thus, we have a repository of genetic forms which are held in reserve until needed. This is advance preparation. This requires a designer. The "watchmaker" is no longer blind.

If you believe in anything supernatural in 2012, no matter how "mainstream", you are an idiot. You should be supplied only with pureed foods, a helmet-compatible safety spoon, and an XL diaper. If you go around insulting people (read: atheists) more intelligent than you, all you have accomplished is to engrave your idiocy in the historical record. Enjoy sputtering on your deathbed about a Disneyworld-in-the-sky that does not exist while everyone with a functioning brain exists outside your little world of fear and guilt. Or, you know, console yourself by coonting it up on Facebook, where your invisible wizard apparently cannot read your blather.

ParagonComplex: if she were a Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, anything other than Christians I wonder if she'd still suffer the same backlash?

Atheists are easy to pick on because hey, at least everyone else has an ETHOS, amirite?

Fade2black: because I seriously doubt religion is being FORCED on you

What Christians are currently forcing on people:

1. Blue laws
2. Anti-sodomy laws
3. Anti-gay marriage laws (in most states)
4. Subsidy of churches (exemption to most taxes, tithes tax-deductible, "faith-based initiatives")
5. Christian slogans in the Pledge, on currency and in government proceedings
6. Exemptions to anti-discrimination laws in unemployment

What Christians are currently TRYING to force on people:

1. Anti-gay marriage laws (nationwide)
2. Prayer in schools
3. Teaching Christian doctrine as fact in science classes
4. Blocking teaching of science in science classes
5. Blocking all forms of abortion
6. Blocking all forms of birth control (and forcing abstinence-only sex education)
7. Placing monuments and the 10 commandments in government buildings

What atheists are currently TRYING to force on Christians:

1. Keep the government secular.
2. There is no number 2.

Sabyen91 SmartestFunniest 2012-01-14 10:17:19 PM


eraser8: Mavent: tacojohn: I'm a Christian and I thoroughly believe in a secular society.

Congratulations. Welcome to 85% of the American public. That's the point that the Fark Atheist crowd always seems to be too stupid to comprehend: there's a separation of Church and State in America because the vast majority of CHRISTIANS want it that way.

That has got to be the stupidest goddamned argument in the history of the internet.

Actually, the stupidest part was "Fark Atheists". jpo2269: vudukungfu SmartestFunniest 2012-01-14 09:46:56 PM


jpo2269: room to discuss.

Do you believe America should be completely free of religious intolerance?

Absolutely, but unfortunately that would piss our Atheist friends off as they would no longer be able to proudly display their biggotry..

You are really going to break that out in THIS thread?

Absolutely, because it is appropriate.

Look, I am not defending the behavior of those who have made threats and boorish remarks, but that doesn't mean I have to believe Jessica wasn't being intolerant.

eraser8: Atheism does not require anyone to have an affirmative belief that there are no gods. It just requires the absence of an affirmative belief that gods exist.

No one can know, that's why there are only Agnostic Theists and Agnostic Atheists. "Strong Theists" and "Strong Atheists" are pretty deluded, imo.

Antedeus: This is advance preparation. This requires a designer. The "watchmaker" is no longer blind.

Hi. Does your mom know you got out of the cage again? You really need to stop running after the ice cream truck and grunting loudly; people might start to think there's something wrong with you.

AmorousRedDragon:

abb3w: vernonFL: Why do athiests have to push their secular agenda?

Since "moderate Christians" aren't doing diddly when more fundamentalist Christians act like this.

I'm sorry, she kind of brought this upon herself by making a fuss over such a small thing. She really should have known better.

Spartan_Manhandler: Fade2black: because I seriously doubt religion is being FORCED on you

What Christians are currently forcing on people:

7. Anti-gambling laws
8. Anti-prostitution laws

Cheeseburger: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Oh look, another example of Christian bigotry and intolerance. This must be a day ending in y. Fark you Christians; every last one of you. I can't think of any other organization that has brought so much hatred, violence, intolerance, and fear to humanity as Christianity. Fark you all and fark your god.

Gee. So some FARK atheists want Christians to apologize for the comments on Facebook? How about you go first? Why don't you apologize for Don't Troll Me Bro!'s remark here on FARK? It's just as childish and hateful as the comments on FB, and what's worse, it's typical of some of the everyday posts in FARK religion threads. Where's the condemnation from the atheist crowd for such posts?

Fark Atheists. Drink.

/Hint: Adding Fark to a noun doesn't make it an insult. "Fark Independent" was an insult because those people were not Independent at all but embarrassed Republicans. Get a brain, morans.

Cheeseburger: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Oh look, another example of Christian bigotry and intolerance. This must be a day ending in y. Fark you Christians; every last one of you. I can't think of any other organization that has brought so much hatred, violence, intolerance, and fear to humanity as Christianity. Fark you all and fark your god.

Gee. So some FARK atheists want Christians to apologize for the comments on Facebook? How about you go first? Why don't you apologize for Don't Troll Me Bro!'s remark here on FARK? It's just as childish and hateful as the comments on FB, and what's worse, it's typical of some of the everyday posts in FARK religion threads. Where's the condemnation from the atheist crowd for such posts?

The entire foundation for your complaint is imagined as far as I can tell.

jpo2269: that doesn't mean I have to believe Jessica wasn't being intolerant.

But you do.
It's clear as beer piss.

Spartan_Manhandler: Fade2black: because I seriously doubt religion is being FORCED on you

What Christians are currently forcing on people:

1. Blue laws
2. Anti-sodomy laws
3. Anti-gay marriage laws (in most states)
4. Subsidy of churches (exemption to most taxes, tithes tax-deductible, "faith-based initiatives")
5. Christian slogans in the Pledge, on currency and in government proceedings
6. Exemptions to anti-discrimination laws in unemployment

What Christians are currently TRYING to force on people:

1. Anti-gay marriage laws (nationwide)
2. Prayer in schools
3. Teaching Christian doctrine as fact in science classes
4. Blocking teaching of science in science classes
5. Blocking all forms of abortion
6. Blocking all forms of birth control (and forcing abstinence-only sex education)
7. Placing monuments and the 10 commandments in government buildings

What atheists are currently TRYING to force on Christians:

1. Keep the government secular.
2. There is no number 2.

THIS..

Antedeus: A moth will turn from white to black in a sooty environment. Not gradually over thousands of generations but suddenly one or two generations.

On the off-chance you aren't trolling or that someone's reading and thinking "Whoa, this guy has a point": Insects adapt very quickly because they reproduce fast and everything eats them. Birds, in particular, eat moths and have excellent vision, so the moths that don't fit in are quickly eaten. The black moths existed but were being eaten before. Once the environment changed, it was the white moths who were easier to find and eat. Doesn't mean there's a god looking out for moths.

/duh?

shivashakti: If you read the link, it would seem that the headline was sarcasm..

But Jessica Ahlquist was showered with Christian love. The people at /r/Christianity on reddit have denounced the Christian hatred shown towards her.

I thought it was pretty remarkable. Here's the link to that.

A lot of times non-Christians chastise Christians for not speaking out when some Christian does something awful to people. Well, they're speaking out against it here.

The "But it's only a vocal minority" argument doesn't really hold water here. The vast, vast, vast majority of Christians commenting on this online are negative, so far as I've seen.

Antedeus: This requires a designer. The "watchmaker" is no longer blind.

1/10. Not enough derp and too much knowledge showing through.

Antedeus: We have seen in several cases that these switches respond to external forces. A moth will turn from white to black in a sooty environment. Not gradually over thousands of generations but suddenly one or two generations. We can even turn these switches on in the lab. Thus, we have a repository of genetic forms which are held in reserve until needed. This is advance preparation. This requires a designer. The "watchmaker" is no longer blind.

A moth's color mutates to one that allows it to camouflage itself better in its given environment and all of a sudden God hit the switch? What? DNA is billions of years old, Phenotypes can emerge that were once suppressed. What the hell does the "Creator" have to do with it?

Meisaims: Did anyone else go to high school? People acted like this REGARDLESS of what you did.

But many Christians argues that just being Christian makes you a fundamentally better person than not being Christian. Full of grace and forgiveness and love.

If that were true, then Christian high schoolers would act better than that. At this stage most of them have had 12-16 years of having Christianity beaten (sometimes literally) into them. You'd think that amount of Christianising would mean the 'better person' effect would have kicked in at least a little.

They don't, of course, because they're bullies who just use their so-called religion as a rod to smite others with and a curtain to hide behind, and will continue to do so as adults.

What, do you think when these kids are 40 they're going to have stopped calling for violence against those who don't bow deeply enough to their god?