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FirstNationalBastard
2012-01-14 05:41:55 PM
People want Dublin Dr Pepper more than the HFCS stuff.
Solution? Shut down the guys making the stuff people want.
Ghastly
2012-01-14 06:14:28 PM
FirstNationalBastard
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People want Dublin Dr Pepper more than the HFCS stuff.
Solution? Shut down the guys making the stuff people want.
Why do you hate the Free Market Capitalism™?
Shostie
2012-01-14 06:52:12 PM
My brother works for Dr. Pepper in Plano so I'm getting a kick etc. etc. etc.
EvilEgg
2012-01-14 07:12:11 PM
FirstNationalBastard
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People want Dublin Dr Pepper more than the HFCS stuff.
Solution? Shut down the guys making the stuff people want.
Coke, at least, tastes no different with sugar than with HFCS. I imagine Dr. Pepper is the same.
xanadian
2012-01-14 07:18:59 PM
Yup. Boycott the shiat (not the Dublin one, the rest of the brand). Just gotta get the word out...
j4x
2012-01-14 07:35:18 PM
EvilEgg
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FirstNationalBastard: People want Dublin Dr Pepper more than the HFCS stuff.
Solution? Shut down the guys making the stuff people want.
Coke, at least, tastes no different with sugar than with HFCS. I imagine Dr. Pepper is the same.
The Dublin Dr. Pepper tastes completely different actually.
FirstNationalBastard
2012-01-14 07:44:58 PM
EvilEgg
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FirstNationalBastard: People want Dublin Dr Pepper more than the HFCS stuff.
Solution? Shut down the guys making the stuff people want.
Coke, at least, tastes no different with sugar than with HFCS. I imagine Dr. Pepper is the same.
Maybe it's just you.
The stuff with real sugar definitely tastes different from the HFCS stuff.
Juc
2012-01-14 08:13:16 PM
EvilEgg
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Coke, at least, tastes no different with sugar than with HFCS. I imagine Dr. Pepper is the same.
It tastes very different to me.
It's actually so different that I can't touch the stuff when I'm in the USA and instead drink Jones or any cane sugar stuff I can find, and as a last resort *shudder* diet coke.
HempHead
2012-01-14 08:13:26 PM
Those execs at Dr Pepper had to do something to justify their insane huge bonuses.
Q: Why does Dr. Pepper come in a bottle?
A: Because his wife died!
Elzar
2012-01-14 08:16:26 PM
EvilEgg
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FirstNationalBastard: People want Dublin Dr Pepper more than the HFCS stuff.
Solution? Shut down the guys making the stuff people want.
Coke, at least, tastes no different with sugar than with HFCS. I imagine Dr. Pepper is the same.
That'yll hook a few.... shoulda mentioned something about inferior taste buds for maximum effect.
Arctic Phoenix
2012-01-14 08:35:02 PM
The Dr. Pepper made with sugar tastes different than the Dr. Pepper made with HFCS. The difference between sugar and HFCS Pepsi is much less noticeable, imo. I don't drink Coke typically, so I don't know if there's a difference between those two.
Dear Jerk
2012-01-14 08:50:10 PM
HempHead
A: Because his wife died!
That was the first clever dirty joke I ever knew. Courtesy of National Lampoon.
Now I hate to say this but I like HFCS DRP better than regular DRP. The real sugar kind has an organic sort of taste, as if it were made with medicinal herbs. Normal DRP has a crisper chemical taste. I don't like that in any other drink but it works with DRP.
Mayhem of the Black Underclass
2012-01-14 08:53:29 PM
I honestly can't taste the difference, but I can feel it. If I start a can of HFCS Coke, by the time I'm halfway through my tongue feels like a scared hag fish. My saliva is so thick and sticky I could use it to simulate bukakke.
rev. dave
2012-01-14 09:02:22 PM
Further proof that it is legal agreements and lawyers who ruin the free market.
germ78
2012-01-14 09:05:26 PM
Juc
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EvilEgg: Coke, at least, tastes no different with sugar than with HFCS. I imagine Dr. Pepper is the same.
It tastes very different to me.
It's actually so different that I can't touch the stuff when I'm in the USA and instead drink Jones or any cane sugar stuff I can find, and as a last resort *shudder* diet coke.
I only buy the throwback Pepsi now. There's definitely a difference between the sugar and HFCS versions.
Kumana Wanalaia
2012-01-14 09:10:32 PM
General Jack D. Ripper
: You know when the use of High Fructose Corn Syrup first began?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake
: I... no, no. I don't, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper
: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. 1946, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
TsuDohNim
2012-01-14 09:15:35 PM
This is turning into a PR nightmare for Dr Pepper Snapple Group. Go read their Facebook page. There are a bunch of anti-DPGS rants. I'll boycott them as much as I can. I used to order some Dublin Dr Pepper once every year or two. It was a better tasting drink. Dr Pepper Snapple may have legally been in the right, but they did the wrong thing by taking away bottling and distribution rights to the oldest Dr Pepper bottling plant in the world. Dublin Dr Pepper is a Texas legend. Texans are proud people and Dublin Dr Pepper belongs to them.
Harry_Seldon
2012-01-14 09:19:15 PM
You people and your HFCS delusions are amazing. Both sugar and HFCS are about equally bad for you, and taste about the same. Personally, I prefer to drinking the tobacco juice from a spittoon sweetened with cyclamates.
noazark
2012-01-14 09:20:05 PM
A little over a year ago, I was overjoyed to find a tiny local store selling Dublin Dr. Pepper. :D
For a few months, all was well. Then the store stopped carrying it. :(
When I asked the owner of the store about it, he told me that a California distributor of Dr. Pepper had learned that his store was importing the Dublin stuff, and had threatened a legal suit. He said they were working on finding a way to legally sell the soda in California.
Guess that won't be happening now. :/
ha-ha-guy
2012-01-14 09:20:23 PM
Mayhem of the Black Underclass
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I honestly can't taste the difference, but I can feel it. If I start a can of HFCS Coke, by the time I'm halfway through my tongue feels like a scared hag fish. My saliva is so thick and sticky I could use it to simulate bukakke.
That's my experience with HFCS vs cane sugar as well. The first few sips of HFCS soda taste good, then the rest of the can tastes like ass.
As for Dr. Pepper Snapple Group, my local grocery sells Mexican real sugar coke. So I'll just take my business over there. Good job morons.
ha-ha-guy
2012-01-14 09:44:19 PM
What's really stupid is how easily this could be handled. Here's what do you:
-Merge the Dublin Dr. Pepper website into a larger site.
-When a consumer comes you pull their zip code and redirect them to the subdomain of their regional supplier.
-If said regional supplier does not do Imperial Cane Sugar Dr. Pepper, redirect them to Dublin (since Dublin was nice enough to grow the brand for the company).
-For the other locals, push the entire "buy local and support local idea" to get people in say Michigan to move from the Dublin plant to the Michigan plant (do we even have one? no idea.)
-Rewrite the distributorship agreement to make this all work. Dublin can perhaps pay a small free on each unit sold out of region in return for having national rights on Cane Sugar Dr. Pepper (to regions that do not have a plant offering it). Each bottler can decide if they want to do cane sugar or just keep cranking out the HFCS crap and selling bulk.
If all of the above isn't cost effective (as in Dublin sells less than it would cost to design the website and amend the legal documents), then leave Dublin the fark alone because clearly they're not skimming that much business off anyone. Figure they have their niche and they're at least keeping business from going to Mexican Coke or the throwback drinks.
As it stand this is a really dumb move because any consumer (like myself) who was doing planned purchases of Dublin Dr. Pepper and paying to have dozens of soda canes shipped across the country (freight on 30 pounds of soda isn't cheap) are not going to just say "Oh well" and go back to buying two liters at from Walmart. I'll likely start getting Boylan's soda (real sugar but a bit pricey) or Mexican coke. The fact I was paying freight costs strongly suggests I don't consider the HFCS stuff an acceptable substitute.
The only legit reason I could see for going after Dublin was if the Dr. Pepper group was trying to do a nation wide rollout of real cane sugar soda and Dublin wasn't sharing their out of region costumer list. As it stands though it looks like stupidity or the corn lobby caused the bottling group to go after Dublin.
/I know, white people problems
Iczer
2012-01-14 09:50:06 PM
I really wish Dr Pepper would just get on the Pepsi bandwagon and start selling their "throwback" version of Dr Pepper 365 days a year like Pepsi did with theirs... I loved the sugar-made stuff they released for a limited time only during summer.
baorao
2012-01-14 09:56:19 PM
I'll just switch to Belfast Mr. Pibb.
erveek
2012-01-14 10:06:23 PM
EvilEgg
:
FirstNationalBastard: People want Dublin Dr Pepper more than the HFCS stuff.
Solution? Shut down the guys making the stuff people want.
Coke, at least, tastes no different with sugar than with HFCS. I imagine Dr. Pepper is the same.
Bullshiat on both counts. Coke tastes better and Dr. Pepper becomes potable.
SharkTrager
2012-01-14 10:07:39 PM
FirstNationalBastard
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People want Dublin Dr Pepper more than the HFCS stuff.
Solution? Shut down the guys making the stuff people want.
Dr Pepper is being pressured by dozens of bottlers with exclusive territories who are pissed because another bottler is selling in their territory.
Solution: enforce the farking contracts.
doglover
2012-01-14 10:11:36 PM
EvilEgg
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Coke, at least, tastes no different with sugar than with HFCS
Okay Marge's sister with no sense of taste. (I can't remember if it's Patty or Selma)
moothemagiccow
2012-01-14 10:15:20 PM
baorao
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I'll just switch to Belfast Mr. Pibb.
farking protestant
ArkAngel
2012-01-14 10:21:13 PM
noazark
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A little over a year ago, I was overjoyed to find a tiny local store selling Dublin Dr. Pepper. :D
For a few months, all was well. Then the store stopped carrying it. :(
When I asked the owner of the store about it, he told me that a California distributor of Dr. Pepper had learned that his store was importing the Dublin stuff, and had threatened a legal suit. He said they were working on finding a way to legally sell the soda in California.
Guess that won't be happening now. :/
How exactly would he file a lawsuit? That doesn't seem to make sense unless California's laws are more farked up than I thought
noazark
2012-01-14 10:45:07 PM
I don't know all the details -- only that this tiny Mom'n'Pop store
was
selling Dublin Dr. Pepper, and then they weren't -- mostly because the SoCal regional Dr. Pepper distributor took notice.
Scoriox
2012-01-14 10:48:37 PM
noazark
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I don't know all the details -- only that this tiny Mom'n'Pop store was selling Dublin Dr. Pepper, and then they weren't -- mostly because the SoCal regional Dr. Pepper distributor took notice.
Probably had a marketing agreement with them. Can't outsource product. Even if said product is not carried by local distributor.
puffy999
2012-01-14 10:59:36 PM
I guess I have no need to buy Dr Pepper anymore.
PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm
2012-01-14 11:01:08 PM
Well, this makes me feel even better about giving up soda. Not being self-righteous; I just did it for health reasons. I had a sip or two today of a soft drink I used to think was pretty good, and I discovered it tasted a bit like bug spray in non-aerosol form. :/
/NTTAWWT...
puffy999
2012-01-14 11:02:57 PM
SharkTrager
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FirstNationalBastard: People want Dublin Dr Pepper more than the HFCS stuff.
Solution? Shut down the guys making the stuff people want.
Dr Pepper is being pressured by dozens of bottlers with exclusive territories who are pissed because another bottler is selling in their territory.
Solution: enforce the farking contracts.
Might as well push to shutdown eBay, too. Idiots.
puffy999
2012-01-14 11:05:25 PM
You know, if my local cola distributor sold this kind of cola, even at an inflated price, people would buy it.
They do it with beer all the farking time. The few local beer stores that sell non-regional craft beers, or even regional beers that are rarely available elsewhere, make a LOT of money.
Harry_Seldon
2012-01-14 11:06:06 PM
I drink Dr. Pepper and I'm proud
I'm part of an original crowd
If you look around these days
There seems to be a Dr. Pepper craze
I' m a Pepper, you're a Pepper
He's a Pepper, she's a Pepper
Wouldn't you like to be a Pepper, too
Be a Pepper
Drink Dr. Pepper
Be a Pepper
Drink Dr. Pepper
minoridiot
2012-01-14 11:18:58 PM
I took a vacation to Dublin a couple of years ago to visit this bottling plant. It was well worth the visit. It's a shame they couldn't come to an agreement to keep the plant open. Funny thing is that the plant's production wasn't terribly large, only producing DP a few times a year. But I think the backlash from this nonsense will hurt DP more than any lost of sales iby allowing the plant to stay open. Either way, I'm switching to Mexican Coke which I can get down the street from my work. .
PetraeusWJ
2012-01-14 11:31:24 PM
My family is livid about this. Maybe it's a bigger deal here in TX than elsewhere, but to us it's much more than the loss of real sugar Dr Pepper (which is bad enough in its own right). It's about corporate Dr Pepper destroying a town, disregarding the history and legacy of where Dr Pepper came from, and basically throwing thousands of loyal fans under the bus... and for what?
/ Made a midnight run to a local store to pick up a couple ofthe last cases of Dublin Dr Pepper around. Worth it.
Owangotang
2012-01-14 11:36:14 PM
I don't know what is worse, the blind corporate greed destroying a perfectly harmless small-town tradition or the fact that the people affected will likely still vote Republican.
Kurmudgeon
2012-01-14 11:36:36 PM
Corporate bullies sicken my stomach. So I will no longer be buying Dr Pepper's products. That includes 7-UP and Snapple, which I had already boycotted due to it being Limbaugh piss.
Harry_Seldon
2012-01-14 11:43:15 PM
Owangotang
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I don't know what is worse, the blind corporate greed destroying a perfectly harmless small-town tradition or the fact that the people affected will likely still vote Republican.
What does this have to do with partisan politics?
qlenfg
2012-01-14 11:48:03 PM
As far as advertising for DP in the TX / NM/ OK / AR / LA area, Dublin DP did more for the brand than all the cute song and dance commercials they pissed millions away on.
Dublin was a destination -- the Mecca of Dr Pepper drinkers, much like Shiner is the Mecca of beer drinkers in Texas. If I can't get a DP from Dublin, Dr Pepper / Snapple can kiss my hairy white arse.
MaxSupernova
2012-01-14 11:48:43 PM
Iczer
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I really wish Dr Pepper would just get on the Pepsi bandwagon and start selling their "throwback" version of Dr Pepper 365 days a year like Pepsi did with theirs... I loved the sugar-made stuff they released for a limited time only during summer.
I bought a 12 pack of it today and see it in the stores at least every other month. We dont drink much carbonated beverages but i will always pick up a 12 pack of the real sugar dr. peppers when i see them.
qlenfg
2012-01-14 11:52:40 PM
MaxSupernova
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I bought a 12 pack of it today and see it in the stores at least every other month. We dont drink much carbonated beverages but i will always pick up a 12 pack of the real sugar dr. peppers when i see them.
Just so you know, not all DP with real sugar is from Dublin -- it has to be in the glass Dublin bottles. The taste does differ.
PanicMan
2012-01-14 11:53:23 PM
So Dr Pepper sued Dr Pepper for selling Dr Pepper?
qlenfg
2012-01-14 11:55:56 PM
PanicMan
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So Dr Pepper sued Dr Pepper for selling Dr Pepper?
The whole think was about Dublin DP selling outside of their 5-county area. And their sales were about 1% of corporate DP sales, and yet they were taking food from the starving mouths of DP proper by selling beyond their defined market.
Mayhem of the Black Underclass
2012-01-14 11:59:04 PM
PanicMan
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So Dr Pepper sued Dr Pepper for selling Dr Pepper?
I think it was because Dr Pepper was marketing Dr Pepper as Dr Pepper.
mcreadyblue
2012-01-15 12:00:04 AM
doglover
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EvilEgg: Coke, at least, tastes no different with sugar than with HFCS
Okay Marge's sister with no sense of taste. (I can't remember if it's Patty or Selma)
I believe Selma had no sense of smell. She lost it in an unfortunate bottle rocket accident when she was young.
Troy McClure tried to kill her by turning on the gas, knowing that she enjoyed a good cigar-et after watching MacGuyver but would be unable to smell the deadly gas.
Assimilate This
2012-01-15 12:07:10 AM
How exactly did the internet cause this?
Phil Moskowitz
2012-01-15 12:07:16 AM
FirstNationalBastard
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People want Dublin Dr Pepper more than the HFCS stuff.
Solution? Shut down the guys making the stuff people want.
The way everything works today. Laissez faire Capitalism, just a little better than totalitarian pseudo communism with respect to innovation.
LesserEvil
2012-01-15 12:09:37 AM
FTFA:
Dubliners and other Texans have rallied around the beverages still to be produced there, including
Triple XXX
Root Beer.
So that would be XXXXXXXXX Root Beer?
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