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(Reuters)   Buy $15 worth of wooden crates at The Russian Container Store and receive 79 free Kalashnikov rifles   (reuters.com) divider line 74
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2012-01-13 04:27:35 PM  
Lucky son of a biatch.
 
2012-01-13 04:29:12 PM  
Nice prize, until the people who own the guns come looking for them...
 
2012-01-13 04:31:32 PM  
What a deal!
 
2012-01-13 04:32:01 PM  
Niiiiiice...
 
2012-01-13 04:32:18 PM  

oukewldave: Nice prize, until the people who own the guns come looking for them...


Well at least he won't be unarmed when they do
 
2012-01-13 04:33:40 PM  

MightyPez: oukewldave: Nice prize, until the people who own the guns come looking for them...

Well at least he won't be unarmed when they do


Hopefully those came with bullets.
 
2012-01-13 04:35:17 PM  
Dammit! Any old fart trying to buy $15 worth of firewood in Russia, or any 14-year-old in Africa, can buy select-fire AKMs from the late '50s, but can I get one for love or money to help complete my Soviet small arms collection? Which is kept locked in a safe? Hell no.
 
2012-01-13 04:35:26 PM  
Wait, I bought a bunch of AKs and I didn't get ONE lousy wooden crate! What gives, Ivan!?.
 
2012-01-13 04:35:32 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-01-13 04:35:33 PM  
hmm, I assume he actually got 80 rifles but is keeping one for himself.
 
2012-01-13 04:36:47 PM  

Rapmaster2000: MightyPez: oukewldave: Nice prize, until the people who own the guns come looking for them...

Well at least he won't be unarmed when they do

Hopefully those came with bullets.


Hey, wood stocks make excellent clubs when you're panicked and being chased down by heavily tattooed men
 
2012-01-13 04:38:47 PM  
What a country!
 
2012-01-13 04:39:15 PM  
FTFA: Russia's Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin... said he will launch a probe into the mysterious appearance of automatic rifles. "Wow! I will hold a meeting with Izhmash about its firearms next week and we will deal with this miracle," he wrote on his Facebook page

In related news, Russia's Deputy Prime Minister uses the word "Wow" and has a Facebook page.
 
2012-01-13 04:39:32 PM  

abominare: hmm, I assume he actually got 80 rifles but is keeping one for himself.


The ATF will be returning the 60 rifles once they track down who owns them.
 
2012-01-13 04:39:44 PM  
FYI, if this happens to you in the land of the free don't tell anyone anything. It doesn't mater what you say BATFE will not believe you.
 
2012-01-13 04:40:38 PM  
Full auto ak's 1950-60's stock factory direct from IZH. shiat if you could transfer those in the US they would be worth 15K a pop.
 
JVD
2012-01-13 04:43:15 PM  
Why are these being recycled instead of being turned into kits and sold in the US?

I'd love me a milled Izhmash Type 3 AK :(
 
2012-01-13 04:43:53 PM  
api.ning.com

It was a good day.
 
2012-01-13 04:48:20 PM  

mbillips: Dammit! Any old fart trying to buy $15 worth of firewood in Russia, or any 14-year-old in Africa, can buy select-fire AKMs from the late '50s, but can I get one for love or money to help complete my Soviet small arms collection? Which is kept locked in a safe? Hell no.


You can if you go over there. Getting it home would be another matter.
 
2012-01-13 04:48:39 PM  

Rapmaster2000: MightyPez: oukewldave: Nice prize, until the people who own the guns come looking for them...

Well at least he won't be unarmed when they do

Hopefully those came with bullets.


FTFA: A total of 79 guns and 253 cartridges were stuffed in more than 60 wooden boxes

/odd numbers, those
 
2012-01-13 04:48:52 PM  
And all I got from my wood crates were some termites and some hobo parts.
 
2012-01-13 04:49:29 PM  

JVD: Why are these being recycled instead of being turned into kits and sold in the US?

I'd love me a milled Izhmash Type 3 AK :(


I've got one, supposedly (although it might be Bulgarian), on a milled US receiver. VERY nice, much more heavy-duty innards than most clones. But the wood's all farked up; has brass pins that block the cleaning rod hole.
 
2012-01-13 04:50:53 PM  
I'm sure all 78 rifles and 153 cartridges will be turned in to the proper authorities.
 
2012-01-13 04:52:56 PM  
For when you absolutely, positively have to kill every motherfarker in the room.
 
2012-01-13 04:52:56 PM  

GoBadgers: I'm sure all 78 rifles and 153 cartridges will be turned in to the proper authorities.


Which then they'll inform to the papers that all 70 rifles and 50 cartridges have been taken care of by the local police, and passed on to the higher-ops.
 
2012-01-13 04:53:06 PM  

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Lucky son of a biatch.


I do belive those were the first words out of my mouth too.
 
2012-01-13 05:03:51 PM  

StrikitRich: [api.ning.com image 480x360]

It was a good day.


Thank you for posting this. I was beginning to think Fark was slipping.
 
2012-01-13 05:04:25 PM  
and the villager reported this way?
 
2012-01-13 05:08:15 PM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: Full auto ak's 1950-60's stock factory direct from IZH. shiat if you could transfer those in the US they would be worth 15K a pop.


Remember when illegal arms dealing was such a big market in other countries? Then the US just starting sending war machines to everyone.

Now the markets have reversed, it seems.
 
2012-01-13 05:15:29 PM  

mbillips: JVD: Why are these being recycled instead of being turned into kits and sold in the US?

I'd love me a milled Izhmash Type 3 AK :(

I've got one, supposedly (although it might be Bulgarian), on a milled US receiver. VERY nice, much more heavy-duty innards than most clones. But the wood's all farked up; has brass pins that block the cleaning rod hole.


Milled receiver AKs use pretty much the same internal parts as any other AK. All you're getting with the milled receiver is more weight and possibly a bit more accuracy due to less flexing.

For better durability and accuracy and without so much extra weight, what you really want is an RPK-type receiver, stamped from heavier sheet metal and with a beefier front trunnion.
 
2012-01-13 05:17:52 PM  
AK pic thread?

i100.photobucket.com

i100.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-13 05:18:17 PM  
So, at no point did anyone say "gee, these empty crates sure are heavy..."?
 
2012-01-13 05:18:58 PM  
Michale Kalashnikov is my hero. From a Russian tank driver wounded in combat to a national hero.
AK- 47's have accounted for around 50 Million deaths..... gotta love em', reliability at it's finest. So ugly only their mama could love them but so deadly a King Cobra shows it's backside running away.
 
2012-01-13 05:20:01 PM  

JesseL: For better durability and accuracy and without so much extra weight, what you really want is a RPK-type receiver, stamped from heavier sheet metal and with a beefier front trunnion Saiga.

 
2012-01-13 05:24:10 PM  

Cybernetic: mbillips: Dammit! Any old fart trying to buy $15 worth of firewood in Russia, or any 14-year-old in Africa, can buy select-fire AKMs from the late '50s, but can I get one for love or money to help complete my Soviet small arms collection? Which is kept locked in a safe? Hell no.

You can if you go over there. Getting it home would be another matter.


/ Build your own .....AK's don't require brain surgery. > :)
 
2012-01-13 05:39:43 PM  

mdeesnuts: JesseL: For better durability and accuracy and without so much extra weight, what you really want is a RPK-type receiver, stamped from heavier sheet metal and with a beefier front trunnion Saiga.


Saigas are decent, but they're still 1.0mm steel and standard sized trunnions - nothing inherently tougher than any other AKM. They have a reputation for above average build quality and they have the mystique of being made in Russia but that's about it.
 
2012-01-13 05:43:56 PM  

bikerbob: Cybernetic: mbillips: Dammit! Any old fart trying to buy $15 worth of firewood in Russia, or any 14-year-old in Africa, can buy select-fire AKMs from the late '50s, but can I get one for love or money to help complete my Soviet small arms collection? Which is kept locked in a safe? Hell no.

You can if you go over there. Getting it home would be another matter.

/ Build your own .....AK's don't require brain surgery. > :)


As long as you don't care about the risk of being sent to PMITA prison.

Even if you DIY, it's still illegal to make a select-fire AK unless you have the appropriate FFL and SOT.
 
2012-01-13 05:44:19 PM  

CygnusDarius: GoBadgers: I'm sure all 78 rifles and 153 cartridges will be turned in to the proper authorities.

Which then they'll inform to the papers that all 70 rifles and 50 cartridges have been taken care of by the local police, and passed on to the higher-ops.


And Im sure it will be reported in Pravda how the 45 rifles and 10 cartridges made it safe from the local police to the military police for the "investigation"
 
2012-01-13 05:48:55 PM  
FTA: "I imagine how scared the West is of our nuclear arms," a Facebook user Oleg Zabara wrote in a comment on Rogozin's post. "Not because they exist, but because they could accidentally fall on them (by mistake), just like those rifles got to that old man."

lolwut?
 
2012-01-13 06:01:58 PM  
I have seen estimates of over 100 million AK 47's having been manufactured and largely dumped all over the world. Russia and a number of other countries made and continue to make them. They are one of the ongoing curses of the third world. They are cheap, and as noted in this thread rugged and reliable. No one really knows how long it is going to take to wear out the ones already in the hands of 'insurgents', 'pirates', 'religious fanatics' criminals, and God knows who else that shouldn't have them. This weapon has gone a long way to making many areas of the world lawless and brutal.
 
2012-01-13 06:07:16 PM  

DreamSnipers: I have seen estimates of over 100 million AK 47's having been manufactured and largely dumped all over the world. Russia and a number of other countries made and continue to make them. They are one of the ongoing curses of the third world. They are cheap, and as noted in this thread rugged and reliable. No one really knows how long it is going to take to wear out the ones already in the hands of 'insurgents', 'pirates', 'religious fanatics' criminals, and God knows who else that shouldn't have them. This weapon has gone a long way to making many areas of the world lawless and brutal.


People are just as good at being lawless and brutal to each other with rocks and pointy sticks. On the other hand, something that allows the weak to stand on equal footing with the lawless and brutal to resist being victimized can't be all bad.
 
2012-01-13 06:10:52 PM  

DreamSnipers: I have seen estimates of over 100 million AK 47's having been manufactured and largely dumped all over the world. Russia and a number of other countries made and continue to make them. They are one of the ongoing curses of the third world. They are cheap, and as noted in this thread rugged and reliable. No one really knows how long it is going to take to wear out the ones already in the hands of 'insurgents', 'pirates', 'religious fanatics' criminals, and God knows who else that shouldn't have them. This weapon has gone a long way to making many areas of the world lawless and brutal.


Do you think if the AK had never been invented that another cheap, easily mass produced weapon wouldn't have filled that role?

AK or not, those lawless areas were guaranteed to be brutal no matter what.
 
2012-01-13 06:21:30 PM  
Von_Ruff,
DreamSnipers: I have seen estimates of over 100 million AK 47's having been manufactured and largely dumped all over the world. Russia and a number of other countries made and continue to make them. They are one of the ongoing curses of the third world. They are cheap, and as noted in this thread rugged and reliable. No one really knows how long it is going to take to wear out the ones already in the hands of 'insurgents', 'pirates', 'religious fanatics' criminals, and God knows who else that shouldn't have them. This weapon has gone a long way to making many areas of the world lawless and brutal.
Do you think if the AK had never been invented that another cheap, easily mass produced weapon wouldn't have filled that role?
AK or not, those lawless areas were guaranteed to be brutal no matter what.


Seconded. If it wasn't an AK47 on some flags, it would be an MP42 redesigned.

I believe he made a comment many years after he designed the AK, that it was not his goal to make a gun, but just be a good engineer at whatever the task was. It happened to be a rifle.
 
2012-01-13 06:24:30 PM  

JesseL: mdeesnuts: JesseL: For better durability and accuracy and without so much extra weight, what you really want is a RPK-type receiver, stamped from heavier sheet metal and with a beefier front trunnion Saiga.

Saigas are decent, but they're still 1.0mm steel and standard sized trunnions - nothing inherently tougher than any other AKM. They have a reputation for above average build quality and they have the mystique of being made in Russia but that's about it.


I found a nice Norinco Type 56 in a pawn shop. 1.5MM receiver! Shweet... Shame no more Chinese AKs for the US!

www.imfdb.org

(not mine, but just like mine)
 
2012-01-13 06:25:23 PM  
Webpage pointing to Mikhail Kalashnikov's quotes:

Link (new window)
 
2012-01-13 06:31:39 PM  

abominare: hmm, I assume he actually got 80 rifles but is keeping one for himself.


Its only too bad that the gov't wants the 75 rifles back.

/wait, can we do this the other way too?
//reporters-ak47s.jpg
///I'm Flragnararch and I approve of more gun porn
 
2012-01-13 06:42:43 PM  
I love how journalism in 2012 involves linking to someone's facebook page.
 
2012-01-13 06:45:11 PM  
I have a Romanian WASR-10 with the requisite thumbhole stock. I wish I could have the pistol grips, but I've gotten used to the thumbhole over the years. I know it's not the best quality, but I love that gun.
 
2012-01-13 06:46:36 PM  
No Lord of War references?

/sigh
 
2012-01-13 06:55:37 PM  

DreamSnipers: This weapon has gone a long way to making many areas of the world lawless and brutal.


The genocide in Rwanda was mostly carried out with machetes. People don't need guns to be terrible to each other.

/once bought three empty barrels from a hardware store for a landscaping project. Damn barrels were so heavy, I didn't know that one of them had almost 6 gallons of bourbon in it until I busted open one end. Ran it through coffee filters to get the wood chips and charcoal dust out of it, filled a 5 gallon water jug full and then some. Windfall whiskey is the best whiskey.
 
2012-01-13 06:57:43 PM  
Scored.
 
2012-01-13 06:57:58 PM  
www.scannain.com

Approves of finding unexpected AK-47s.
 
2012-01-13 07:03:26 PM  
So a Russian high muckity-muck is comparing AKs to nukes? Apparently he missed the part where the US basically rebuilt their fire control system so that they(we) could take control of any rogue nukes that fall off the back of the truck. The US knows exactly where their nukes are. And we can probably override their systems if necessary.

I remember then-Representative Hamilton presenting on this to my high school circa 1993.
 
2012-01-13 07:06:16 PM  
Got damn! Where's this farking store?!
 
2012-01-13 07:11:36 PM  
Of course we all know that the world was perfectly at peace with no beatings, stabbings, etc before guns were invented. It was only after the invention of gunpowder and firearms that this thing now known as "violence" came about.
 
2012-01-13 07:14:57 PM  
who'll go hungry? guy with stick or guy with sammich?

/not the guy with crate of AK's
 
2012-01-13 07:26:53 PM  

lack of warmth: who'll go hungry? guy with stick or guy with sammich?

/not the guy with crate of AK's


Guy with stick and sammich
 
2012-01-13 07:37:30 PM  

Kid Mojo: I love how journalism in 2012 involves linking to someone's facebook page.


And why not? It's a direct quote from someone or one of their press handlers. Why wait for someone else to report it when you can get it straight from the source.
 
2012-01-13 08:18:04 PM  
Regarding most of the comments made to me regarding my post. You folks are pretty much right. Quite possibly some other weapon would have stepped in as it were for the AK, and certainly the Rwanda genocide was largely carried out with machetes. But to my mind it doesn't offer much of a defense for the AK and the continuing spread of this weapon throughout the world.
On the other hand, something that allows the weak to stand on equal footing with the lawless and brutal to resist being victimized can't be all bad.
That is one thing the AK is not normally used for. Rather the AK is used by groups ranging from small predatory gangs to large organized groups controlling substantial amounts of a country. The weak are exploited either for armed robbery, rape, and mutilation by groups of varying size or literally enslaved to obtain resources such as blood diamonds.
 
2012-01-13 08:33:15 PM  

JesseL: bikerbob: Cybernetic: mbillips: Dammit! Any old fart trying to buy $15 worth of firewood in Russia, or any 14-year-old in Africa, can buy select-fire AKMs from the late '50s, but can I get one for love or money to help complete my Soviet small arms collection? Which is kept locked in a safe? Hell no.

You can if you go over there. Getting it home would be another matter.

/ Build your own .....AK's don't require brain surgery. > :)

As long as you don't care about the risk of being sent to PMITA prison.

Even if you DIY, it's still illegal to make a select-fire AK unless you have the appropriate FFL and SOT.



You could always get a Slidefire stock: http://youtu.be/cSgqcGJw0Rg
 
2012-01-13 08:43:50 PM  

DreamSnipers: On the other hand, something that allows the weak to stand on equal footing with the lawless and brutal to resist being victimized can't be all bad.
That is one thing the AK is not normally used for. Rather the AK is used by groups ranging from small predatory gangs to large organized groups controlling substantial amounts of a country. The weak are exploited either for armed robbery, rape, and mutilation by groups of varying size or literally enslaved to obtain resources such as blood diamonds.


You'll rarely hear about it when people use evil guns like AK-47s to resist thugs. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Either way though, guns like the AK are machines without moral agency and an inevitable byproduct of chemical and metallurgical knowledge any more advanced than the mid 19th century. That genie isn't going back in the bottle.
 
2012-01-13 08:58:12 PM  

mbillips: Dammit! Any old fart trying to buy $15 worth of firewood in Russia, or any 14-year-old in Africa, can buy select-fire AKMs from the late '50s, but can I get one for love or money to help complete my Soviet small arms collection? Which is kept locked in a safe? Hell no.


http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=268929597

Here ya go... closest you are gonna get without going with something that requires a tax stamp
 
2012-01-13 09:00:24 PM  

DreamSnipers: Regarding most of the comments made to me regarding my post. You folks are pretty much right. Quite possibly some other weapon would have stepped in as it were for the AK, and certainly the Rwanda genocide was largely carried out with machetes. But to my mind it doesn't offer much of a defense for the AK and the continuing spread of this weapon throughout the world.
On the other hand, something that allows the weak to stand on equal footing with the lawless and brutal to resist being victimized can't be all bad.
That is one thing the AK is not normally used for. Rather the AK is used by groups ranging from small predatory gangs to large organized groups controlling substantial amounts of a country. The weak are exploited either for armed robbery, rape, and mutilation by groups of varying size or literally enslaved to obtain resources such as blood diamonds.


Learn2Duck
 
2012-01-13 09:40:27 PM  

JesseL: People are just as good at being lawless and brutal to each other with rocks and pointy sticks. On the other hand, something that allows the weak to stand on equal footing with the lawless and brutal to resist being victimized can't be all bad.


Obligatory:

www.rawa.org
 
2012-01-13 09:45:18 PM  

ausfahrk: JesseL: People are just as good at being lawless and brutal to each other with rocks and pointy sticks. On the other hand, something that allows the weak to stand on equal footing with the lawless and brutal to resist being victimized can't be all bad.

Obligatory:

[www.rawa.org image 400x279]


God hates violence, period.

God says: "You commit violence against your flesh, you commit violence against God, and God will condemn and destroy you, period."

"Commit violence on this earth, and you commit violence against God, here and now on earth..."

You wanna commit violence against God?

I don't.

I want love for all people.

I want justice and love forever, period.

We will collect...
 
2012-01-13 09:50:02 PM  
JesseL

DreamSnipers: On the other hand, something that allows the weak to stand on equal footing with the lawless and brutal to resist being victimized can't be all bad.
That is one thing the AK is not normally used for. Rather the AK is used by groups ranging from small predatory gangs to large organized groups controlling substantial amounts of a country. The weak are exploited either for armed robbery, rape, and mutilation by groups of varying size or literally enslaved to obtain resources such as blood diamonds.

You'll rarely hear about it when people use evil guns like AK-47s to resist thugs. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Either way though, guns like the AK are machines without moral agency and an inevitable byproduct of chemical and metallurgical knowledge any more advanced than the mid 19th century. That genie isn't going back in the bottle.


That is very very true. I recall reading Afgans during the war with Russia had tiny 'factories' making home built 303 Enfield rifles their preferred weapon at the time. A few people would make Enfields from scratch complete with phony serial numbers. I would not think making an AK 47 would be much more difficult if at all.
[I would not have fired one of those homemade Enfields for love or money.]
 
2012-01-13 10:38:00 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: StrikitRich: [api.ning.com image 480x360]

It was a good day.

Thank you for posting this. I was beginning to think Fark was slipping.


Not a problem
 
2012-01-13 10:44:19 PM  

Indubitably: ausfahrk: JesseL: People are just as good at being lawless and brutal to each other with rocks and pointy sticks. On the other hand, something that allows the weak to stand on equal footing with the lawless and brutal to resist being victimized can't be all bad.

Obligatory:

[www.rawa.org image 400x279]

God hates violence, period except when it's him doin' it.

God says: "You commit violence against your flesh, you commit violence against God, and God will condemn and destroy you, period."

"Commit violence on this earth, and you commit violence against God, here and now on earth..."

You wanna commit violence against God?

I don't.

I want love for all people.

I want justice and love forever, period.

We will collect...


Sorry, I had to correct that.
 
2012-01-13 11:14:12 PM  

ausfahrk: Indubitably: ausfahrk: JesseL: People are just as good at being lawless and brutal to each other with rocks and pointy sticks. On the other hand, something that allows the weak to stand on equal footing with the lawless and brutal to resist being victimized can't be all bad.

Obligatory:

[www.rawa.org image 400x279]

God hates violence, period except when it's him doin' it.

God says: "You commit violence against your flesh, you commit violence against God, and God will condemn and destroy you, period."

"Commit violence on this earth, and you commit violence against God, here and now on earth..."

You wanna commit violence against God?

I don't.

I want love for all people.

I want justice and love forever, period.

We will collect...

Sorry, I had to correct that.


Heh.
 
2012-01-13 11:30:12 PM  

BolloxReader: So a Russian high muckity-muck is comparing AKs to nukes? Apparently he missed the part where the US basically rebuilt their fire control system so that they(we) could take control of any rogue nukes that fall off the back of the truck.


No, one of his Facebook followers made that comparison. Apparently you missed that part. :)
 
2012-01-13 11:46:39 PM  
Reminds me of the time that a guy bought a bunch of containers for jet engines to make into cattle feeders. One of them actually had a jet engine still in it.
 
2012-01-14 12:13:48 AM  

groppet: CygnusDarius: GoBadgers: I'm sure all 78 rifles and 153 cartridges will be turned in to the proper authorities.

Which then they'll inform to the papers that all 70 rifles and 50 cartridges have been taken care of by the local police, and passed on to the higher-ops.

And Im sure it will be reported in Pravda how the 45 rifles and 10 cartridges made it safe from the local police to the military police for the "investigation"


And in the evening Russian news they'll report that the 20 rifles have been fully secured and identified.
 
2012-01-14 01:26:06 AM  
Ooh, i've been looking for some more wood pallets, this might be a good idea.
 
2012-01-14 11:40:16 PM  
I am confident he will deal responsibly with all 38 rifles. Yes those 17 rifles will be dealt with the proper way.

/not applicable?
 
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