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(The Atlantic Wire) Asinine Lamar Smith on SOPA opponents: "Do they profit from selling advertising to these foreign websites? And if they do, they need to be stopped. And I don't mind taking that on"   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 52
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Aarontology [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 02:34:55 PM
Wow.

He is actually talking about silencing critics and painting as foreign agents those who point out he is in violation of his own law.
 
Eddie Adams from Torrance [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 02:40:35 PM
Wait... I thought American businesses selling to foreign companies was a good thing?

Why does Lamar Smith hate the free market?
 
Paris1127 [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 05:41:35 PM
Protect IP and SOPA suck...
www.msrpresents.com
 
TheOmni [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 05:47:43 PM
Does Lamar Smith profit from promoting censorship against the American public and the world at large?
 
TheOmni [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 05:51:42 PM
Paris1127: Protect IP and SOPA suck...
[www.msrpresents.com image 640x410]

The OPEN act is still pretty bad. I mean, it's not super villain bad like SOPA or PIPA, but it's still pretty bad.
 
CitizenTed [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 06:15:27 PM
i628.photobucket.com
 
edmo [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 06:24:05 PM
I foresee the day when Anonymous will be the only entity enforcing the Constitution.
 
t3knomanser
2012-01-13 06:33:54 PM
No, we just have an understanding of how the Internet actually works.
 
RedPhoenix122 [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 06:47:11 PM
edmo: I foresee the day when Anonymous will be the only entity enforcing the Constitution.

I can't find 3 organizations that enforce it now.
 
bobbette
2012-01-13 06:48:23 PM
It's too bad there are such high barriers to entry and the filing deadline is already passed for the primary in Lamar Smith's district.

I'm starting to think that primary challenges may be an effective way of indicating that SOPA is serious business and forcing candidates to actually get informed.
 
Nadie_AZ [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 06:53:28 PM
bobbette: It's too bad there are such high barriers to entry and the filing deadline is already passed for the primary in Lamar Smith's district.

I'm starting to think that primary challenges may be an effective way of indicating that SOPA is serious business and forcing candidates to actually get informed.

Hasn't this been what the Tea Party and Grover Norquist have been doing the last few years? Except they do it in the primaries.
 
SilentStrider [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 07:41:39 PM
What the fark is this man's problem?

And its not the (R) after his name, plenty of (D)'s are supporting this farkwit.
 
RedPhoenix122 [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 07:43:36 PM
SilentStrider: What the fark is this man's problem?

And its not the (R) after his name, plenty of (D)'s are supporting this farkwit.

It's not the R, it's not the D, it's the $. I'm willing to bet that the RIAA, MPAA, and the telecom companies are all pouring "speech" into the pockets of these douchebags.
 
Dumski [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 08:23:14 PM
SilentStrider: What the fark is this man's problem?

And its not the (R) after his name, plenty of (D)'s are supporting this farkwit.

That's easy. The idiot gets almost all of his funding from the other idiots, MPAA, RIAA. Absolutely retarded individuals and groups that can't, or won't, deal with technology inovation and the future of media (read internet).
 
Dumski [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 08:25:11 PM
RedPhoenix122: SilentStrider: What the fark is this man's problem?

And its not the (R) after his name, plenty of (D)'s are supporting this farkwit.

It's not the R, it's not the D, it's the $. I'm willing to bet that the RIAA, MPAA, and the telecom companies are all pouring "speech" into the pockets of these douchebags.

Oops. Sorry Red. I must have missed your post. You said it better than me.
 
RedPhoenix122 [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 08:34:21 PM
Dumski: RedPhoenix122: SilentStrider: What the fark is this man's problem?

And its not the (R) after his name, plenty of (D)'s are supporting this farkwit.

It's not the R, it's not the D, it's the $. I'm willing to bet that the RIAA, MPAA, and the telecom companies are all pouring "speech" into the pockets of these douchebags.

Oops. Sorry Red. I must have missed your post. You said it better than me.

Meh, a point like that bears repeating.
 
XMark
2012-01-13 08:56:56 PM
TheOmni: Paris1127: Protect IP and SOPA suck...
[www.msrpresents.com image 640x410]

The OPEN act is still pretty bad. I mean, it's not super villain bad like SOPA or PIPA, but it's still pretty bad.

Seems to me that a good way to get something bad passed would be to propose a couple of things that are super-villain bad so the first thing looks good in comparison...
 
zarberg
2012-01-13 09:05:19 PM
About the only way he could be a bigger douchebag in this scenario is saying that the people calling him out are terrorists.
 
jonny_q
2012-01-13 09:22:46 PM
XMark: TheOmni: Paris1127: Protect IP and SOPA suck...
[www.msrpresents.com image 640x410]

The OPEN act is still pretty bad. I mean, it's not super villain bad like SOPA or PIPA, but it's still pretty bad.

Seems to me that a good way to get something bad passed would be to propose a couple of things that are super-villain bad so the first thing looks good in comparison...

"I propose that we kill 50% of all newborns!"

"I propose that we kill 10% of all newborns!"

"Yay! Compromise!"

"Aye!"
 
Kar98
2012-01-13 09:23:44 PM
i0.kym-cdn.com

Wut?
 
GAT_00 [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 09:24:12 PM
SilentStrider: What the fark is this man's problem?

And its not the (R) after his name, plenty of (D)'s are supporting this farkwit.

There was a link a few days ago. Support for SOPA is heavily conditional on receiving far more money from the entertainment industry than the computer industry.
 
RedPhoenix122 [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 09:26:36 PM
jonny_q: XMark: TheOmni: Paris1127: Protect IP and SOPA suck...
[www.msrpresents.com image 640x410]

The OPEN act is still pretty bad. I mean, it's not super villain bad like SOPA or PIPA, but it's still pretty bad.

Seems to me that a good way to get something bad passed would be to propose a couple of things that are super-villain bad so the first thing looks good in comparison...

"I propose that we kill 50% of all newborns!"

"I propose that we kill 10% of all newborns!"

"Yay! Compromise!"

"Aye!"

Then blame Obama for being soft on overpopulation.
 
Shakes999
2012-01-13 09:28:05 PM
The assclown wrote SOPA is from here???? God dammit, Seriously? As if the world doesn't hate texas enough as it is.
 
CitizensUnited
2012-01-13 09:28:14 PM
I can't wait for SOPA to pass, I'm loving the internet "free-culture" angst.

I may not be able to crush my enemies, drive them before me, and enjoy hearing the lamentations of their women, but this is good to.
 
GAT_00 [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 09:29:51 PM
Shakes999: As if the world doesn't hate texas enough as it is.

You're hated for a reason.
 
jayhawk88
2012-01-13 09:36:49 PM
Profiting off advertising, oh that's rich. Who's profiting off of what, Mr. "I offer the best Democracy money can buy"? What a complete and utter whore. Disgusting.
 
desertgeek [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 09:38:50 PM
t3knomanser: No, we just have an understanding of how the Internet actually works.

And we don't want to become China or Iran.
 
Summer Glau's Love Slave
2012-01-13 09:39:23 PM
And Lamar Smith has copyrighted material on his own website.

/So, he's a hypocrite too.
//No surprise here.
 
narkor
2012-01-13 10:00:45 PM
In a sense he's right though - the deepest anti-sopa pockets are companies like Google who make a bucketload out of selling advertising to sites hosting "lots and lots of Linux ISOs". That bloke getting extradited from the UK to the USA made a quarter of a million US dollars out of advertising on his torrent site - something you won't see mentioned on Slashdot or Ars Technica. If that guy was making quarter of a million, you can bet the guys running the advertising networks got a sweet cut of those piracy dollars as well.

Source: http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/13/uk_stu dent_extradition_piracy/
 
zarberg
2012-01-13 10:06:03 PM
narkor: In a sense he's right though - the deepest anti-sopa pockets are companies like Google who make a bucketload out of selling advertising to sites hosting "lots and lots of Linux ISOs". That bloke getting extradited from the UK to the USA made a quarter of a million US dollars out of advertising on his torrent site - something you won't see mentioned on Slashdot or Ars Technica. If that guy was making quarter of a million, you can bet the guys running the advertising networks got a sweet cut of those piracy dollars as well.

Source: http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/13/uk_stu dent_extradition_piracy/

Instead of writing stupid blanket laws that could possibly restrict everyone (and probably benefit only the RIAA and a few others), why not fund law enforcement agencies to go after the lawbreakers specifically?
 
MindfulModeration
2012-01-13 10:08:20 PM
GAT_00: Shakes999: As if the world doesn't hate texas enough as it is.

You're hated for a reason.

Now, now GAT, don't be hard on the lad just because he's had the misfortune of living in Texas. It's fracking hard to change what state you live in after all. Disassembling social networks, finding a job out of state, moving your family...

I'd like to think there are a great deal of intelligent people in Texas, just... spread so thin across the whole of the state that they rarely have an effect on electoral results.

Then again, I might be being unrealistically optimistic.
 
RedPhoenix122 [TotalFark]
2012-01-13 10:19:07 PM
zarberg: Instead of writing stupid blanket laws that could possibly restrict everyone (and probably benefit only the RIAA and a few others), why not fund law enforcement agencies to go after the lawbreakers specifically?

Because Congressmen can't get paid that way.
 
poot_rootbeer
2012-01-13 10:19:57 PM
Lamar Smith? The effeminate black character from "Revenge of the Nerds"?
 
symbolset
2012-01-13 11:25:24 PM
Seattle TV station KING 5 supports SOPA. They have comments. You can share your thoughts here.
 
thunderbird8804
2012-01-13 11:42:14 PM
So I assume this means Mr. Lamar Smith has stopped beating his wife, that's good news.
 
Herr Flick's Revenge
2012-01-14 12:21:16 AM
MindfulModeration: GAT_00: Shakes999: As if the world doesn't hate texas enough as it is.

You're hated for a reason.

Now, now GAT, don't be hard on the lad just because he's had the misfortune of living in Texas. It's fracking hard to change what state you live in after all. Disassembling social networks, finding a job out of state, moving your family...

I'd like to think there are a great deal of intelligent people in Texas, just... spread so thin across the whole of the state that they rarely have an effect on electoral results.

Then again, I might be being unrealistically optimistic.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univers ity_of_Texas_MD_Anderson_Cancer_ Center

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_U niversity

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Me thodist_Hospital

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michae l_E._DeBakey

There are far more than your little mind can comprehend.
 
King Something
2012-01-14 12:22:58 AM
zarberg: narkor: In a sense he's right though - the deepest anti-sopa pockets are companies like Google who make a bucketload out of selling advertising to sites hosting "lots and lots of Linux ISOs". That bloke getting extradited from the UK to the USA made a quarter of a million US dollars out of advertising on his torrent site - something you won't see mentioned on Slashdot or Ars Technica. If that guy was making quarter of a million, you can bet the guys running the advertising networks got a sweet cut of those piracy dollars as well.

Source: http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/13/uk_stu dent_extradition_piracy/

Instead of writing stupid blanket laws that could possibly restrict everyone (and probably benefit only the RIAA and a few others), why not fund law enforcement agencies to go after the lawbreakers specifically?

That's why.
 
saturn badger
2012-01-14 12:42:17 AM
This whole thing is starting to look like the showdown from the western movies. Every one is drawing their guns and hiding behind wagons while cocking them. Pretty soon all hell breaks lose and the scene is clouded with gunfire smoke.

I hope the good guys win this one for sure.
 
Dinjiin
2012-01-14 02:12:52 AM
XMark: Seems to me that a good way to get something bad passed would be to propose a couple of things that are super-villain bad so the first thing looks good in comparison...

That's actually a big worry that many have. They'll retreat on SOPA and then pass a SOPA-lite. Later, they'll create another draconian SOPA2, and pass a SOPA2-lite with much of what was removed from SOPA1-lite.
 
kiteless
2012-01-14 03:00:57 AM
Lamar has already infringed once. So that makes him a pro on the topic.
THE AUTHOR OF SOPA IS A COPYRIGHT VIOLATOR (new window)
 
styckx [TotalFark]
2012-01-14 05:24:49 AM
much of which is coming from the unexpectedly increasingly politically powerful Reddit

Really?? Really???? Really?
 
gozar_the_destroyer
2012-01-14 05:28:45 AM
cdn.theatlanticwire.com

Is it just me or is he troll facing us?
 
Tor_Eckman [TotalFark]
2012-01-14 06:14:18 AM
styckx: much of which is coming from the unexpectedly increasingly politically powerful Reddit

Really?? Really???? Really?

I used to think Reddit was a reasonable alternative to this place when the trolling here got out of hand. Went over there recently and found it completely infested with Paulbots and people screaming about SOPA and PIPA like they will cause the end if life as we know it. It's seems somewhat suspicious to me, and not at all organic. I have read these bills, and while i agree that the wording on both is way too broad and vague, I do not buy into the rampant slippery-slope panic that the Redditors seem to have totally convinced themselves of.

You really have to wonder who or what is behind these two movements over there. It almost smells like what happened to Digg a few years back. (Google 'Digg compromised' if you don't know what I am referring to)
 
Green Scorpio
2012-01-14 06:38:45 AM
Shakes999: The assclown wrote SOPA is from here???? God dammit, Seriously? As if the world doesn't hate texas enough as it is.

I know. I wonder how many of his constituents are in the recording industry? I'm guessing not many. Granted Austin is fairly big in music but I doubt many in the Austin music scene would vote Republican
 
dready zim
2012-01-14 06:56:50 AM
Well, if the US keeps on restricting it`s internets like korea, china and all the places it says it hates (but is turning into) eventually only the rest of the world will have internets and the US will only have the US net...
 
KrispyKritter
2012-01-14 08:27:53 AM
Tor_Eckman: styckx: much of which is coming from the unexpectedly increasingly politically powerful Reddit

Really?? Really???? Really?

I used to think Reddit was a reasonable alternative to this place when the trolling here got out of hand. Went over there recently and found it completely infested with Paulbots and people screaming about SOPA and PIPA like they will cause the end if life as we know it. It's seems somewhat suspicious to me, and not at all organic. I have read these bills, and while i agree that the wording on both is way too broad and vague, I do not buy into the rampant slippery-slope panic that the Redditors seem to have totally convinced themselves of.

You really have to wonder who or what is behind these two movements over there. It almost smells like what happened to Digg a few years back. (Google 'Digg compromised' if you don't know what I am referring to)

everywhere becomes political battlefield eventually, it's just a matter of time. there are so many groups and mindsets online that are easily called to rally. if they have some chops they'll pay for play, which i feel is a mean-spirited way to manipulate online forums.
 
Phil Moskowitz
2012-01-14 08:51:04 AM
Oh Please Oh Please Oh Please fark with the public's bread and circuses.

I would love to see some great 11 o'clock news finally.
 
Vast and Trunkless
2012-01-14 08:54:42 AM
Lamar Smith is up for re-election this year. He needs to lose his job over this.
 
reverendsaintjay [TotalFark]
2012-01-14 09:24:10 AM
TheOmni: Does Lamar Smith profit from promoting censorship against the American public and the world at large?

Why yes, yes he does.

Open Secrets Link (new window)

His biggest contributors are from the entertainment industry. Doesn't that make him two kinds of hypocrite on this subject?
 
starsrift
2012-01-14 03:11:20 PM
I really hope that when they finally hear from the anti-SOPA nerds, every one of them iterates and reiterates this single, stunningly obvious point: SOPA will have almost zero effect on the P2P file networks through which piracy is conducted. They don't use webpages. Trackers can be passed around on IRC or anything else.

All SOPA does is goes after things like youtube where people post "let's play" clips of videogames or their musical whatevers or short clips from movies - which are covered by current legislation to be able to be taken down.
 
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