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Carth

2012-01-13 10:23:02 AM

Campaigning in Florida is ridiculously expensive because it is mostly done by tv ads. That coupled with how poorly his "cut all government services" message plays out with elderly voters shows even RON PAUL figured out he has no chance in the state.

stevenr868

2012-01-13 10:24:36 AM

It may be a good strategy to focus on other states as Florida is winner-take-all in terms of delegates, and Romney is polling very well there

Philip Francis Queeg

2012-01-13 10:26:32 AM

And I'm sure the Paulites will then blame the media for his poor showing.

FeedTheCollapse

2012-01-13 10:32:45 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: And I'm sure the Paulites will then blame the media for his poor showing.

them along with the Shadow Republican Guildmasters.

Citrus Shindig

2012-01-13 10:34:27 AM

The media IS to blame for his poor showing. This whole campaign......all we've heard is "Paul is unelectable", "There's no way he can win", "let's just ignore him"

Guess it's the "Liberal" media out to get him.

More like establishment (read: Corporate) Republicans certainly don't want him.....let's black list him.

See Also: Buddy Gohmert

See Also: Gary Johnson

stevenr868

2012-01-13 10:37:10 AM

Citrus Shindig: The media IS to blame for his poor showing. This whole campaign......all we've heard is "Paul is unelectable", "There's no way he can win", "let's just ignore him"

Guess it's the "Liberal" media out to get him.

More like establishment (read: Corporate) Republicans certainly don't want him.....let's black list him.

See Also: Buddy Gohmert

See Also: Gary Johnson
This. If the media treated him like they do Mitt Romney he would have a chance in Florida

Markus5

2012-01-13 10:39:05 AM

Buddy Gohmert?

Lost Thought 00

2012-01-13 10:39:14 AM

AKA - Paul plans to drop out of the Republican Primary after South Carolina

Philip Francis Queeg

2012-01-13 10:41:45 AM

I'm Psychic!!!!!!

Citrus Shindig

2012-01-13 10:43:10 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: I'm Psychic!!!!!!

Everyone is just so impressed.

Sock Ruh Tease

2012-01-13 10:43:48 AM

A "return" to "the Constitution's fundamentals" would turn Heaven's waiting room into a massive graveyard.

m2313

2012-01-13 10:48:14 AM

FeedTheCollapse: them along with the Shadow Republican Guildmasters.

That's ridiculous.
A guild is way too socialist of a concept. Too much like trade unions.

Carth

2012-01-13 10:49:04 AM

Citrus Shindig: The media IS to blame for his poor showing. This whole campaign......all we've heard is "Paul is unelectable", "There's no way he can win", "let's just ignore him"

Guess it's the "Liberal" media out to get him.

More like establishment (read: Corporate) Republicans certainly don't want him.....let's black list him.

See Also: Buddy Gohmert

See Also: Gary Johnson

Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

m2313

2012-01-13 10:50:43 AM

Carth: Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

I wouldn't say it's the media's fault but the idea that he's unelectable "because some of his ideas are looney" flies in the face of 2000-2008, the 2010 midterms, and the modern incarnation of the Republican Party.

FeedTheCollapse

2012-01-13 10:55:10 AM

m2313: Carth: Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

I wouldn't say it's the media's fault but the idea that he's unelectable "because some of his ideas are looney" flies in the face of 2000-2008, the 2010 midterms, and the modern incarnation of the Republican Party.

Ron Paul is unelectable because his own damn supporters have portrayed him that way.

imontheinternet

2012-01-13 10:57:32 AM

Florida shouldn't even be allowed to have delegates after the 2000 election. I wonder if Spain would take them back.

stevenr868

2012-01-13 11:00:35 AM

Carth: Citrus Shindig: The media IS to blame for his poor showing. This whole campaign......all we've heard is "Paul is unelectable", "There's no way he can win", "let's just ignore him"

Guess it's the "Liberal" media out to get him.

More like establishment (read: Corporate) Republicans certainly don't want him.....let's black list him.

See Also: Buddy Gohmert

See Also: Gary Johnson

Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

"unelectable"
"looney"

key words that tell me with 100% accuracy that you are a mainstream media drone

sprawl15

2012-01-13 11:04:29 AM

stevenr868: key words that tell me with 100% accuracy that you are a ~~mainstream media~~ LAMESTREAM MSM MEDIA drone

FTFY.

Would it make you feel better if he called RONPAUL a farking retard instead of a 'looney'?

Citrus Shindig

2012-01-13 11:06:13 AM

m2313: Carth: Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

I wouldn't say it's the media's fault but the idea that he's unelectable "because some of his ideas are looney" flies in the face of 2000-2008, the 2010 midterms, and the modern incarnation of the Republican Party.

Couldn't that be said of every single Republican nominee this year? I mean, really....would ANY of these people have even been considered 10 years ago? 15? 20?

imontheinternet

2012-01-13 11:07:03 AM

stevenr868: Carth: Citrus Shindig: The media IS to blame for his poor showing. This whole campaign......all we've heard is "Paul is unelectable", "There's no way he can win", "let's just ignore him"

Guess it's the "Liberal" media out to get him.

More like establishment (read: Corporate) Republicans certainly don't want him.....let's black list him.

See Also: Buddy Gohmert

See Also: Gary Johnson

Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

"unelectable"
"looney"

key words that tell me with 100% accuracy that you are a mainstream media drone

Your point about the media actively trying to undermine Paul is correct, but it wouldn't make a difference in Florida. Like Obama in '08, Paul does well primarily with youth voters. Hillary won Florida by 20 points. Old people don't like things that are different, and regardless, the majority of Florida is too stupid to grasp new concepts.

It's a smart move to skip Florida. The money he'll save by staying away from the state's outrageously expensive ad buys will be better served in other states.

Nobodyn0se

2012-01-13 11:08:07 AM

stevenr868:

"unelectable"
"looney"

key words that tell me with 100% accuracy that you are a mainstream media drone

Anybody with an IQ above room temperature would NEVER vote for Paul after ten minutes of researching his policy positions.

The man is AGAINST THE INCORPORATION CLAUSE OF THE 14th AMENDMENT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. That single issue makes him the most anti-liberty candidate in the race.

GentDirkly

2012-01-13 11:08:44 AM

I live in Florida. I like Paul, mostly because he won't bomb or invade Iran. I'll vote for the old guy.

I'm not upset he's not spending money here. I wouldn't either. Winner take all means there can only be two contenders and he's not one of them.

Our primary rules worked fine when our state had a late primary. The state legislature moved the primary up, but the state party has not adjusted.

If you're going to have an early primary in a large state, you need to have (but only one) of the following:

1) Approval voting, winner take all (recent Gallup polling suggests this would still strongly favor Romney; most conservatives 'approve' of him though he's not their first choice)

or

2) Vote for one, but proportional delegation (like New Hampshire)

or
3) Staggered voting, one TV market per week, rotating which one goes first each 4 years.

stevenr868

2012-01-13 11:11:26 AM

sprawl15: stevenr868: key words that tell me with 100% accuracy that you are a mainstream media LAMESTREAM MSM MEDIA drone

FTFY.

Would it make you feel better if he called RONPAUL a farking retard instead of a 'looney'?

that might bump you up from herp to derp on the intelligence level of your argument...but whatever suits you

GentDirkly

2012-01-13 11:11:31 AM

Nobodyn0se: stevenr868:

"unelectable"
"looney"

key words that tell me with 100% accuracy that you are a mainstream media drone

Anybody with an IQ above room temperature would NEVER vote for Paul after ten minutes of researching his policy positions.

The man is AGAINST THE INCORPORATION CLAUSE OF THE 14th AMENDMENT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. That single issue makes him the most anti-liberty candidate in the race.

Right. He will ignore the clauses of the constitution he doesn't like and will ignore laws and resolutions overriding his veto.

trotsky

2012-01-13 11:12:49 AM

stevenr868

2012-01-13 11:13:11 AM

Nobodyn0se: stevenr868:

"unelectable"
"looney"

key words that tell me with 100% accuracy that you are a mainstream media drone

Anybody with an IQ above room temperature would NEVER vote for Paul after ten minutes of researching his policy positions.

The man is AGAINST THE INCORPORATION CLAUSE OF THE 14th AMENDMENT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. That single issue makes him the most anti-liberty candidate in the race.

and who are you voting for oh great intelligent one? I'm assuming Obama in which case I won't even reply to your rebuttal because there's nothing there to like except for blind patriotism at this point

stevenr868

2012-01-13 11:14:48 AM

trotsky: FeedTheCollapse: m2313: Carth: Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

I wouldn't say it's the media's fault but the idea that he's unelectable "because some of his ideas are looney" flies in the face of 2000-2008, the 2010 midterms, and the modern incarnation of the Republican Party.

Ron Paul is unelectable because his own damn supporters have portrayed him that way.

There are about 5 sane Ron Paul supporters. They realize that many of his ideas are not going to work on a larger scale. The rest drive rusty vans with RON PAUL emblazoned on the sides and preach about the Fed, Gold, Fiats, and other tin foil hat shiat.

Also, the vast majority of voters will never vote for a crazy old man who wants to take us back to 1930, collectively.

The fed, gold, and fiats are conspiracies? I was pretty sure they all existed. Thanks for informing me!

GentDirkly

2012-01-13 11:15:10 AM

trotsky: FeedTheCollapse: m2313: Carth: Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

I wouldn't say it's the media's fault but the idea that he's unelectable "because some of his ideas are looney" flies in the face of 2000-2008, the 2010 midterms, and the modern incarnation of the Republican Party.

Ron Paul is unelectable because his own damn supporters have portrayed him that way.

There are about 5 sane Ron Paul supporters. They realize that many of his ideas are not going to work on a larger scale. The rest drive rusty vans with RON PAUL emblazoned on the sides and preach about the Fed, Gold, Fiats, and other tin foil hat shiat.

Also, the vast majority of voters will never vote for a crazy old man who wants to take us back to 1930, collectively.

Your counting is off. The growth in Paul's support from 2008 to 2012 is mostly more rational people who realize that Congress will be overriding Paul's more crazy opinions with a 2/3 vote, but the US will stay out of Iran.

Dughan

2012-01-13 11:16:50 AM

FeedTheCollapse: m2313: Carth: Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

I wouldn't say it's the media's fault but the idea that he's unelectable "because some of his ideas are looney" flies in the face of 2000-2008, the 2010 midterms, and the modern incarnation of the Republican Party.

Ron Paul is unelectable because his own damn supporters have portrayed him that way.

No, they haven't.

Most of peoples' exposure to "Paulites" is generated via the media talking about how radical they are, or people on the internet relaying some extreme story about a supporters passion displayed in a manner outside of what is acceptable.

There are more and more people who are utterly convinced that this country has already fallen off a huge cliff, and we are mistaking free fall for flight. Ron Paul talks about cutting some of the bricks from us so we don't land QUITE as hard, where as the rest of the orthodoxy continues to act as if everything is fine, the market is adjusting itself, and it'll all work out in the end...

If there is anything to get passionate about, it's this. It's telling that people want milquetoast candidates and lack-luster support, or else things seem "looney". While the world continues to be consumed with violence, exploitation and decay... to speak out about it too loudly or too pointedly gets one labeled as a "crackpot". This is one of those times when we see just how potent the media machine really is. Everyone is screaming that things need to change, but the second someone comes along to actually propose systemic, meaningful change... people suddenly change their tune. Funny, isn't it?

Ron Paul, as a human being and politico, speaks with more honesty and integrity than almost any other political figure in the country right now. The list of "honest" people in the combined houses of congress numbers something like... 4. Bernie Sanders, Ron Paul, Dennis Kuchinch and Al Franken are the only ones that everyone I talk to considers to be straight forward. They might not agree with these folks, but it is agreed that you could sit down and have an honest political discussion with them, and that they would be fairly consistent with their views and actions.

You might disagree with some of his views... but that DISAGREEMENT with the status quo is now equal to being crazy is a perfect example of just how far away from healthy public discourse we have gotten. Instead of explanations as to WHY the political theories of Ron Paul are outlandish, they are simply labeled that and then ignored. "Well, anyone with a brain could see how stupid they are!" Alright smart guy, put your effort where your words are and explain to the rest of us, why?

There NEEDS to be disagreement for democracy to work! Without honest representation that leads to a civil comprise, you don't have democracy. To label certain discussions as "too radical" or "unwise" shows just how entrenched the orthodoxy has become. If you have 50% of the population feeling one way, but they aren't allowed to express themselves within the political system without being totally marginalized, those people will eventually seek to express themselves OUTSIDE of the political system, and usually with violence. Part of a democratic society is allowing ALL voices a platform to be heard, especially those you vehemently disagree with. Without that, you create a system where by the ONLY way that certain segments of the population can express their discontent is through violence and illegal means. That never ends well, for any of those involved.

/Carry on...

Nobodyn0se

2012-01-13 11:17:31 AM

GentDirkly:
Your counting is off. The growth in Paul's support from 2008 to 2012 is mostly more rational people who realize that Congress will be overriding Paul's more crazy opinions with a 2/3 vote, but the US will stay out of Iran.

I love this argument.

"Ron Paul may be batshiat crazy, but it's ok, because congress won't let his insane ideas become law!"

stevenr868

2012-01-13 11:17:53 AM

GentDirkly: trotsky: FeedTheCollapse: m2313: Carth: Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

I wouldn't say it's the media's fault but the idea that he's unelectable "because some of his ideas are looney" flies in the face of 2000-2008, the 2010 midterms, and the modern incarnation of the Republican Party.

Ron Paul is unelectable because his own damn supporters have portrayed him that way.

There are about 5 sane Ron Paul supporters. They realize that many of his ideas are not going to work on a larger scale. The rest drive rusty vans with RON PAUL emblazoned on the sides and preach about the Fed, Gold, Fiats, and other tin foil hat shiat.

Also, the vast majority of voters will never vote for a crazy old man who wants to take us back to 1930, collectively.

Your counting is off. The growth in Paul's support from 2008 to 2012 is mostly more rational people who realize that Congress will be overriding Paul's more crazy opinions with a 2/3 vote, but the US will stay out of Iran.

They're all crazy I tell you! I know because the news guy said it

/am i doin it right?

Carth

2012-01-13 11:18:31 AM

Citrus Shindig: m2313: Carth: Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

I wouldn't say it's the media's fault but the idea that he's unelectable "because some of his ideas are looney" flies in the face of 2000-2008, the 2010 midterms, and the modern incarnation of the Republican Party.

Couldn't that be said of every single Republican nominee this year? I mean, really....would ANY of these people have even been considered 10 years ago? 15? 20?

That's a good point. The only Republican that seems sane this cycle is Huntsman and even he just has a way of making his crazy ideas seem reasonable in comparison.

Ron Paul just sounds like a fruitcake in interviews and debates. You ask him about the weather and you get a 30 minute response about how the department of education is illegal and needs to be shut down.

Nobodyn0se

2012-01-13 11:19:38 AM

Dughan:

Ron Paul, as a human being and politico, speaks with more honesty and integrity than almost any other political figure in the country right now.

I'll repeat: THE MAN IS AGAINST THE INCORPORATION CLAUSE.

How on earth does that not make him COMPLETELY unelectable?

Thats No Moose

2012-01-13 11:19:42 AM

Dughan: Most of peoples' exposure to "Paulites" is generated via the media talking about how radical they are, or people on the internet relaying some extreme story about a supporters passion displayed in a manner outside of what is acceptable.

Actually, it's people like you that turn the rest of us off him.

Apart from his stupid political, economic and social ideas of course.

stevenr868

2012-01-13 11:20:34 AM

I love that spending ourselves 16 trillion into debt, writing laws which disregard the 4th amendment among others, and funding an empire overseas with unnecessary wars is normal but Ron Paul's ideas are "batshiat crazy"

stevenr868

2012-01-13 11:22:09 AM

Carth: Citrus Shindig: m2313: Carth: Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

I wouldn't say it's the media's fault but the idea that he's unelectable "because some of his ideas are looney" flies in the face of 2000-2008, the 2010 midterms, and the modern incarnation of the Republican Party.

Couldn't that be said of every single Republican nominee this year? I mean, really....would ANY of these people have even been considered 10 years ago? 15? 20?

That's a good point. The only Republican that seems sane this cycle is Huntsman and even he just has a way of making his crazy ideas seem reasonable in comparison.

Ron Paul just sounds like a fruitcake in interviews and debates. You ask him about the weather and you get a 30 minute response about how the department of education is illegal and needs to be shut down.

Yeah the DoE is great, that's why Americans are #1 in education. The government does everything efficiently without corruption

Philip Francis Queeg

2012-01-13 11:22:40 AM

Dughan: Ron Paul is unelectable because his own damn supporters have portrayed him that way.

No, they haven't.

Most of peoples' exposure to "Paulites" is generated via the media talking about how radical they are, or people on the internet relaying some extreme story about a supporters passion displayed in a manner outside of what is acceptable.

There are more and more people who are utterly convinced that this country has already fallen off a huge cliff, and we are mistaking free fall for flight. Ron Paul talks about cutting some of the bricks from us so we don't land QUITE as hard, where as the rest of the orthodoxy continues to act as if everything is fine, the market is adjusting itself, and it'll all work out in the end...

If there is anything to get passionate about, it's this. It's telling that people want milquetoast candidates and lack-luster support, or else things seem "looney". While the world continues to be consumed with violence, exploitation and decay... to speak out about it too loudly or too pointedly gets one labeled as a "crackpot". This is one of those times when we see just how potent the media machine really is. Everyone is screaming that things need to change, but the second someone comes along to actually propose systemic, meaningful change... people suddenly change their tune. Funny, isn't it?

Ron Paul, as a human being and politico, speaks with more honesty and integrity than almost any other political figure in the country right now. The list of "honest" people in the combined houses of congress numbers something like... 4. Bernie Sanders, Ron Paul, Dennis Kuchinch and Al Franken are the only ones that everyone I talk to considers to be straight forward. They might not agree with these folks, but it is agreed that you could sit down and have an honest political discussion with them, and that they would be fairly consistent with their views and actions.

You might disagree with some of his views... but that DISAGREEMENT with the s ...

I love that the attempted rebuttal to that assertion is a wall of text about how RON PAUL is the only man who can save us from utter calamity!!!

12349876

2012-01-13 11:25:13 AM

stevenr868: The fed, gold, and fiats are conspiracies? I was pretty sure they all existed. Thanks for informing me!

Jews exist, therefore it's all a conspiracy!

FeedTheCollapse

2012-01-13 11:26:32 AM

Dughan: FeedTheCollapse: Ron Paul is unelectable because his own damn supporters have portrayed him that way.

No, they haven't.

yeah, pretty much. Again, see 2008 where he was hailed as being a "great candidate who will never be President". Now the narrative is that either the media or Republican Brass won't allow him to be the candidate. It's all bullshiat excuses for why he won't be the GOP candidate, yet they wonder why the general public is otherwise indifferent to him if his own supporters don't really seem to want to do much besides shout "Ron Paul!" and spam online polls.

stevenr868

2012-01-13 11:26:42 AM

Here's the world FARKers live in:

OMG RON Paul is batshiat crazy!!!!

Meanwhile Obama passes NDAA, more than doubles the national debt, starts wars in a dictatorial manner ,backs out on nearly every promise he campaigned on, assassinates a US citizen and his 16 year old son for something they think he said, etc etc etc

OMG Obama is the greatest!!!!!!

There's no point in even debating with people who possess such blind allegiance

Carth

2012-01-13 11:27:29 AM

stevenr868: Carth: Citrus Shindig: m2313: Carth: Stating the truth doesn't make it the media's fault. Paul is unelectable because some of his ideas are looney not because the media says so.

I wouldn't say it's the media's fault but the idea that he's unelectable "because some of his ideas are looney" flies in the face of 2000-2008, the 2010 midterms, and the modern incarnation of the Republican Party.

Couldn't that be said of every single Republican nominee this year? I mean, really....would ANY of these people have even been considered 10 years ago? 15? 20?

That's a good point. The only Republican that seems sane this cycle is Huntsman and even he just has a way of making his crazy ideas seem reasonable in comparison.

Ron Paul just sounds like a fruitcake in interviews and debates. You ask him about the weather and you get a 30 minute response about how the department of education is illegal and needs to be shut down.

Yeah the DoE is great, that's why Americans are #1 in education. The government does everything efficiently without corruption

False dichotomy. Just because the DoE isn't perfect doesn't mean we should get rid of it instead of fixing it. Having national standards for education ensures states don't ignore science and move to faith based curriculum.

Look at the countries that are number 1 in education they all have federal regulations more strict than the us governing their education. .

Philip Francis Queeg

2012-01-13 11:28:31 AM

stevenr868: Here's the world FARKers live in:

OMG RON Paul is batshiat crazy!!!!

Meanwhile Obama passes NDAA, more than doubles the national debt, starts wars in a dictatorial manner ,backs out on nearly every promise he campaigned on, assassinates a US citizen and his 16 year old son for something they think he said, etc etc etc

OMG Obama is the greatest!!!!!!

There's no point in even debating with people who possess such blind allegiance

Defend Paul's policies on their own merits, not in comparison to others.

Carth

2012-01-13 11:28:47 AM

Nobodyn0se: Dughan:

Ron Paul, as a human being and politico, speaks with more honesty and integrity than almost any other political figure in the country right now.

I'll repeat: THE MAN IS AGAINST THE INCORPORATION CLAUSE.

How on earth does that not make him COMPLETELY unelectable?

I love how people keep ignoring you when you ask this question.

ourbigdumbmouth

2012-01-13 11:35:49 AM

The problem isn't out of control government, It's that government doesn't have enough control. It's best to stay the course and hope it all works out.

/bridge troll

fenianfark

2012-01-13 11:36:55 AM

Ron Paul is right on a few things and really wrong on a lot more things. What gets me is that his supporters can't take any criticism of him without getting all upset. It's really quite odd.

The1andonlyZack

2012-01-13 11:37:29 AM

Carth: Nobodyn0se: Dughan:

Ron Paul, as a human being and politico, speaks with more honesty and integrity than almost any other political figure in the country right now.

I'll repeat: THE MAN IS AGAINST THE INCORPORATION CLAUSE.

How on earth does that not make him COMPLETELY unelectable?

I love how people keep ignoring you when you ask this question.

Agreed; waiting for a solid response.

monoski

2012-01-13 11:38:41 AM

Carth: How on earth does that not make him COMPLETELY unelectable?

I love how people keep ignoring you when you ask this question.

He is not running to win he is running to spread his crazy message(s) same as Santorum, no chance of winning but he wants to get that conservative message out in the forefront.

Thank You Black Jesus!

2012-01-13 11:44:46 AM

Stevenr686-

Ron Paul is without a doubt sincere in his policies and assertions. The problem with him is that for every good idea he has (us military isolationism) he has two bad ones (letting states endorse religions) and two VERY bad ones (disbanding the fed and returning to the gold standard thus having our monetary policy set by foreign speculators as well as not allowing for economic growth).

There isnt a secret conspiracy to call ron paul unelectable because there is no secret and no conspiracy.

That having been said, cast your vote as you wish but please be as informed as possible when doing so.

Scrotastic Method

2012-01-13 11:45:54 AM

I like the part where Ron Paul, a medical doctor, would allow the uninsured to die. I like how he wants to take away a woman's right to choose. I like how he would allow states to trounce civil, gay, and women's rights by enacting discriminatory legislation if that's what they want to do. I like how he believes that corporations should not be policed because if a company poisons a few thousand people with a spill we can just all stop buying their stuff.

I like this because I am crazy. RON PAUL.

sprawl15

2012-01-13 11:47:20 AM

stevenr868: I love that spending ourselves 16 trillion into debt, writing laws which disregard the 4th amendment among others, and funding an empire overseas with unnecessary wars is normal but Ron Paul's ideas are "batshiat crazy"

There are more than two possible states for the world to be in. You're saying that smearing shiat with corn on your face is bad, so we should smear shiat with peanuts on our face instead. RONPAUL being batshiat crazy is true regardless of how shiatty the current situation is.

Philip Francis Queeg: Defend Paul's policies on their own merits, not in comparison to others.

THAT's exactly what an OBAMABOT would say! LOOK AT THE DEFICIT. NOW BACK TO RONPAUL. NOW BACK TO THE DEFICIT. NOW BACK TO RONPAUL!

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