WVU > Mizzou

i don't think it matters to the SEC how much mizzou spends on football above the table.

To be fair, the accountants who made the error got their degrees from SEC schools..

FiatJustitia: lecavalier: I can't wait to see Missouri and aTm in the SEC. I know it hasn't fared all that well for Arkansas, but I have a soft spot for the way the Big Twelve plays on offense nowadays: big-armed gunslinger, jackrabbits for receivers, and one 6'5 oak tree/man-child AA feature wideout.

I know the SEC fans will laugh at me, but I see both of them doing serious work next year.

At least academically. I've been told you actually have to know how to write full sentences to be at Texas A&M.

Well there's their problem right there.

As a fifth generation Missourian, fark you Mizzou. I'm done with Mizzou, on to Michigan State. If they'll have me.

iamskibibitz: fenianfark: basemetal: WVU > Mizzou

What's that about? Mad that WVU didn't get an invite?

Well if you count BCS Bowl appearances...

WVU > TCU > TAMU > Mizzou (3>2>1>0)

Or better yet, BCS Bowl victories...

WVU > TCU > TAMU = Mizzou (3>1>0=0)

/The two joining are a lot better than the two leaving

I have a feeling TCU's and WVU's BCS bowl appearances were due in no small part to the conferences they played in having much weaker competition than they will face in the Big 12.

ytterbium: As a fifth generation Missourian, fark you Mizzou. I'm done with Mizzou, on to Michigan State. If they'll have me.

Come on up, we have punch and cake

ytterbium: on to Michigan State. If they'll have me.

i can only vouch for the MSU women, but in my experience they'll have anyone.

Shrugging Atlas: ytterbium: As a fifth generation Missourian, fark you Mizzou. I'm done with Mizzou, on to Michigan State. If they'll have me.

WTF does this even mean? It's not like the school left the state. If you're so hot and bothered by the Big 12, why not root for another team in it. If you view the move to the SEC as an afront to the state of Missouri, why not root for another school in the state?

It's an archaic thing, the switch to Big 12 and now the SEC. It will never be the same for me.

As far as the MSU thing, we're moving to MI soon and I'm assuming one of my kids will end up at a state school.

However, I will never be a Red Wings fan.

ytterbium: Shrugging Atlas: ytterbium: As a fifth generation Missourian, fark you Mizzou. I'm done with Mizzou, on to Michigan State. If they'll have me.

WTF does this even mean? It's not like the school left the state. If you're so hot and bothered by the Big 12, why not root for another team in it. If you view the move to the SEC as an afront to the state of Missouri, why not root for another school in the state?

It's an archaic thing, the switch to Big 12 and now the SEC. It will never be the same for me.

As far as the MSU thing, we're moving to MI soon and I'm assuming one of my kids will end up at a state school.

However, I will never be a Red Wings fan.

Amen brother. Former Missourian who went to MSU, although I add "never be a Tigers fan" to the mix also.

Here's an idea: raise the tuition on all the students at Mizzou! No, no, no... better thought: shut down all academic departments and spend all the money on the athletics department!

/seems to be what schools are doing now anyways
//sure we'll graduate a bunch of functional retards, but the football team will be competitive sometimes

germ78: Here's an idea: raise the tuition on all the students at Mizzou! No, no, no... better thought: shut down all academic departments and spend all the money on the athletics department!

/seems to be what schools are doing now anyways
//sure we'll graduate a bunch of functional retards, but the football team will be competitive sometimes

i can't speak for mizzou, but at most big programs the football program is a profit center that funds other sports and in some cases academic programs. unless your coach is sodomizing children's buttholes, football programs aren't fiscally detrimental to universities.

chuggernaught: How many years until Mizzou, Nebraska, and Colorado start talking about getting the Big 8 back together?

/getting the band back together.

Yeah, I wish. Big 8 with WVU, TCU, Boise State and BYU would be farking awesome.

thomps: germ78: Here's an idea: raise the tuition on all the students at Mizzou! No, no, no... better thought: shut down all academic departments and spend all the money on the athletics department!

/seems to be what schools are doing now anyways
//sure we'll graduate a bunch of functional retards, but the football team will be competitive sometimes

i can't speak for mizzou, but at most big programs the football program is a profit center that funds other sports and in some cases academic programs. unless your coach is sodomizing children's buttholes, football programs aren't fiscally detrimental to universities.

I'm aware that football generates large sums of money for the school. It's those large sums of money that cause athletics departments to think that they ARE the university; academics are just window dressing. At that point its the tail wagging the dog.

Penn State is the extreme example of what happens when you give the athletics department (football program, really) too much power.

germ78: thomps: germ78: Here's an idea: raise the tuition on all the students at Mizzou! No, no, no... better thought: shut down all academic departments and spend all the money on the athletics department!

/seems to be what schools are doing now anyways
//sure we'll graduate a bunch of functional retards, but the football team will be competitive sometimes

i can't speak for mizzou, but at most big programs the football program is a profit center that funds other sports and in some cases academic programs. unless your coach is sodomizing children's buttholes, football programs aren't fiscally detrimental to universities.

I'm aware that football generates large sums of money for the school. It's those large sums of money that cause athletics departments to think that they ARE the university; academics are just window dressing. At that point its the tail wagging the dog.

Penn State is the extreme example of what happens when you give the athletics department (football program, really) too much power.

if you agree that football generates large sums of money for the school, why do you think continued funding of those programs would require tuition increases and lowered academic funding? if football is self-supporting then your tying it to academic failures seems unreasonable.

thomps: *snip*

if you agree that football generates large sums of money for the school, why do you think continued funding of those programs would require tuition increases and lowered academic funding? if football is self-supporting then your tying it to academic failures seems unreasonable.

Because most of the revenue generated by football goes right back into the athletics department, or pads the pockets of administrators. It doesn't keep tuition down. Tuition rates have been skyrocketing over the last 20 years.

germ78: thomps: *snip*

if you agree that football generates large sums of money for the school, why do you think continued funding of those programs would require tuition increases and lowered academic funding? if football is self-supporting then your tying it to academic failures seems unreasonable.

Because most of the revenue generated by football goes right back into the athletics department, or pads the pockets of administrators. It doesn't keep tuition down. Tuition rates have been skyrocketing over the last 20 years.

right, but we both agree that those tuition increases aren't going to fund football programs, so it's not germane to the discussion, like at all.

Shrugging Atlas: I guess I simply don't get the butthurt over Mizzou (or any other team) changing conferences, particularly by fans of the school/team in question. There's the loss of tradition and rivalries I suppose, but on the other hand, if moving puts the school in a better financial position (thus allowing for better academic and sports programs), what's the problem?

In my family, being a Mizzou fan is an inherited trait, like blonde hair and blue eyes. The tradition and rivalries is the whole point of collegiate sports, or at least, it used to be.

It seems like the Big 10 still has that old-time feel.

Tyrone Biggums: Oh and BTW, I haven't been posting much lately due to work/travel, but Congrats on your win, Krymson Tyde.

Thanks! It was a great game...at least for a Bama guy.

WoodyHayes: Tyrone Biggums: Oh and BTW, I haven't been posting much lately due to work/travel, but Congrats on your win, Krymson Tyde.

Cut out the travel part and this could have been my post. Congrats, Bama fans.

That said, if one of you two doesn't stab the other sometime within the next two weeks I'll have lost respect for both of you. I will not stand idly by and watch Auburn and Alabama fans play kissyface! No, sir, not on my watch.

Thanks!
Maybe we'll fight later on, right now the good feeling is too strong for fisticuffs.

jayhawk88: I'm shocked...SHOCKED, to discover Mizzou may have been bullshiatting their way out of the Big12. I mean, it's not like they've been whoring themselves up and down the Mississippi for the last two years or anything, begging either the Big10 or SEC to give them an invite.

And I'm shocked that a Jayhawk fan starts masturbating like a howler monkey at the chance to attack Mizzou for something that he doesn't fully understand. And now we reach the point in the discussion where I make you look like the feces-throwing jackass Beaker you are.

Years before the realignment mess started, Missouri began raising private donations to build a new facility next to Faurot Field for the gymnastics team and Golden Girls dance team. The facility was recently completed this year, again using all private donations. In preparing the Equity in Athletics Disclosure report (which is non-auditable and only used as a general reference guide), the cost of the gymnastics facility was mistakenly counted as football profit. The error was self-identified and corrected. Moreover, even with the error corrected, Mizzou and Texas remain the only profitable athletic departments in the Big XII. Furthermore, the report had absolutely nothing to do with Mizzou moving to the Big Ten or the SEC. The due diligence the SEC conducted was far more thorough than grabbing a report off of a government website, though if Kansas fans don't understand that, it could explain why no other conferences except the Big East wanted your worthless dump ass university. Mizzou did nothing immoral, unethical or illegal and this error in no way impacts Mizzou's move to the SEC.

So please, do us a favor and stick to talking about basketball, since that's the only thing idiot Beakers are qualified to talk about. You sure as fark don't know anything about football, softball, baseball, soccer, pretty much every other sport except Quiditch, operating a profitable athletic department, not ripping off your season ticket holders and alumni via a ticket scalping scam run out of your own athletic department, not hiring recruit's dads as coaches, not stealing exercise equipment, academics, or anything else that most modern universities have figured out.