You said raised twice

Speeders will speed. Can't catch speeders? Try hiding.

He really likes raises.

That should be all.

Adolf Oliver Nipples: It's ALWAYS about the ticket money. Always. Why they lie about it is beyond me, they don't fool anybody. I suppose it's to maintain some pretense about traffic enforcement being about safety for the suckers. God knows there are enough of those who buy that lie hook, line and sinker. It won't be long until the left-lane blockers and I-never-break-the-speed-limit-and-I-never-lie-either brigade show up to confirm that.

I think police convince themselves that speeding is dangerous, to resolve their cognitive dissonance:

Police are stuck in a job where they have to give out traffic tickets - to be happy, they either have to leave their job, or convince themselves that the tickets are a meaningful part of public safety. Obviously the ones who stay police have gone down the latter route.

Once they've convinced themselves that speeding is bad (to make themselves feel good about their job), then they start tacking on corollaries: higher speed limits are more dangerous, etc. etc. etc.

Now maybe if police didn't have ticket quotas, they would not be forced to adopt such irrational positions.

Does that mean the governor gets another chance to call someone an idiot for pulling him over?

Enigmamf: Now maybe if police didn't have ticket quotas, they would not be forced to adopt such irrational positions.

They don't, but it looks bad if you don't ticket anyone.

Raising the speed limit to 70 is one sure way to save gas and cut our dependence on foreign oil ...right ?

beantowndog: You could make it 200, none of them will go faster than 45 anyway.

You apparently haven't been on any long stretch of highway in Ohio. You want to go 90, there are plenty of straight and un-occupied places to do it.

Occam's Chainsaw: beantowndog: You could make it 200, none of them will go faster than 45 anyway.

Are you sure you're living in Ohio and not, say, South Florida? Because Ohioans are my go-to for "drive like a bat out of hell or die" examples. There's been many a time I've been damn near pushed off I-75 because I wasn't going a bajillion miles an hour or dared leave 3/4 of a carlength between myself and the car in front of me, which some asshat in a long wheel base Cadillac immediately fills.

The people driving up your tail are probably from Michigan. In my experience, Ohioans are about the worst at driving 50 mph in the left lane in a 65 zone.

They should just make it 80. The turnpike is flat and straight and everyone does 75-80 anyways. Except for me, because I grew up hearing horror stories of Ohio cops and I have MI plates, so I do 65 (cruise control is broken, so a buffer is good) in the right lane.

/Not quite as straight as I-90 through Eastern WA, which should be an AutoBahn from Spokane to Ellensburg

In CT (or most of New England), if you're driving less than 75, you're going to get run off the road.

/yes, even in the "slow lane"

The drivers I see in Pittsburgh with Ohio plates are always:

a) in the fast lane

b) going 5mph under the posted limit

c) holding up a loooong line of traffic

*and*

d) dividing their attention with something other than driving (looking at GPS, talking/texting on their cell phone, putting on make-up)

GET THE FARK INTO THE SLOW LANE! Go back to Ohio. STAY in Ohio.

Of course you know certain sceptics note that perhaps 10,000 of the nations's most elite highway patrolmen are out there waiting for us after we start, but let's stay positively: Think of the fact that there's not one state in the 50 that has the death penalty for speeding... although I'm not so sure about Ohio.

/not obscure

dld2618: ourbigdumbmouth: Wow totally misread that.

/not drunk

Same here, kept reading it as Ohighway

You're both drunk on sobriety.

/but then, aren't we all?
//"By the mid-fifties, he had devised his own method, based on the premise, set forth by the Stoic philosopher Epictetus, that people are disturbed not by what happens to them but by their view of what happens to them, and also on his personal observation that, as he said the other day, 'all humans are out of their farking minds - every single one of them.'"

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sethstorm: Enigmamf: Now maybe if police didn't have ticket quotas, they would not be forced to adopt such irrational positions.

They don't, but it looks bad if you don't ticket anyone.

A quota by any other name, still smells as foul.

RY28: Raising the speed limit to 70 is one sure way to save gas and cut our dependence on foreign oil ...right ?

Cars made in this century don't get optimal mileage at 55mph

The speed limit on the Ohio turnpike was raised from 65 to 70 last year. i wasn't prepared for the new posting, so i was surprised when one day in late summer i got on the 'pike and passed a sign reading Speed Limit 70. i had to do a double-take to make sure i read it correctly.
That being said, i bumped the cruise control from 74 to 79 so that i was 9 miles over the limit, as i've done for the last 26 years. State Highway Patrol allowed traffic to roll along unimpeded at up to 9 miles over the posted speed limit while going faster than that a person risked being pulled over and ticketed. i expected this rule to stay in effect with the higher speed limit. i was sorely mistaken. i've seen more cars along the side of the road being ticketed for less than 9 miles over the speed limit than ever before. Plus i haven't seen so many native drivers cruising under the Speed Limit by 10 miles and more. Ever.
We were given a higher speed limit and many folks slowed way the Hell down.
i thought the general idea was to make the 'big money' on offenders who pushed their cars 10 miles over the speed limit or more? Not this 'pull-everyone-who-goes-over-and-clog-up-the-courthouses-with-half-ass ed-speeders-so-we-can-keep-revenue-up' shiat.
i dunno. Desperate times, desperate measures?
i would think that by ticketing everyone, they're not only making quota, but making money hand over fist.


/Ohioan.
//Not a crazy driver.
///Anymore.

Enigmamf: I think police convince themselves that speeding is dangerous, to resolve their cognitive dissonance:

Speed differentials are what is dangerous. This is actually why speed limits, and at least some degree of adherence to/enforcement of them, *are* necessary. Left entirely to their own devices, one person might do 55, another might do 75, another might do 90. This will lead both to massive speed differentials and weaving between lanes (even with a "pass only on the left" rule). Speed limits give people one number to target. Yes, it's too low for some people, maybe even many...but that's part of living in a civilized society. If you don't like it, get off the road, because you're an unsafe driver.

_{/never been in an accident, haven't even been pulled over in something approaching 10 years}

I may always try to drive the speed limit, but the only time I get in the left lane is to pass someone, to allow someone to merge, or for road construction. If you want to speed that's your business. You're the one that will pay the fine if you are unfortunate enough to get caught. Doesn't cost me anything. Just don't ride my rear bumper thinking it will get me to speed too.

AntiNorm: /never been in an accident, haven't even been pulled over in something approaching 10 years

Same here, but the differential isn't a problem (to an extent) provided you're aware of your surroundings and shift to the right should an overtaking vehicle approach. Provided volume isn't too high, trying to drive 55 around here is unsafe.

ultraholland: RY28: Raising the speed limit to 70 is one sure way to save gas and cut our dependence on foreign oil ...right ?

[img1.fark.net image 54x11] Cars made in this century don't get optimal mileage at 55mph

Uh, what? Can you back that up? I was under the impression that the nonlinear drag at high speeds made it more efficient to go slowly.

r1niceboy: [www.funnysigns.net image 400x423]

That should be all.

That seems reasonable.

ultraholland: Provided volume isn't too high, trying to drive 55 around here is unsafe.

No kidding. Last weekend, when I was coming up I-95, I kept it between 0-5 over...and people were passing me like I was standing still.

cot: Uh, what? Can you back that up? I was under the impression that the nonlinear drag at high speeds made it more efficient to go slowly.

we have better gearing, more efficient motors, and generally more aerodynamic designs

AntiNorm: No kidding. Last weekend, when I was coming up I-95, I kept it between 0-5 over...and people were passing me like I was standing still.

I just drove down to Norfolk and the 70mph stretches on 95/64 are a godsend. These roads can easily accommodate 80.

I've driven through various parts of Ohio many times, for years, and while people complain about New York drivers, every time I cross over to PA, OH, IN... I miss home because at least most people here have some kind of consistency and there's not nearly as many people who are willing to zoom up on your bumper at 90+ mph. Also most of them use turn signals and whatnot.

I blame the more lenient driver tests in the midwest; I recall that my older sister (14 years to be exact, so slightly different era) failed the NY test twice so she used a family friend's OH address to get her license THERE while she was at school nearby. She's a fine driver, but I've always just kinda thought the situation was weird.

ultraholland: cot: Uh, what? Can you back that up? I was under the impression that the nonlinear drag at high speeds made it more efficient to go slowly.

we have better gearing, more efficient motors, and generally more aerodynamic designs

That's not backing anything up. Here's the first actual data I found.

link

Scroll down to the table. Doesn't look so hot for your claim.

cot: Scroll down to the table. Doesn't look so hot for your claim.

Ideally, yes. But at 55 mph the resulting crash will burn up most of your fuel.

RoxtarRyan: In CT (or most of New England), if you're driving less than 75, you're going to get run off the road.

/yes, even in the "slow lane"

Having grown up off the last north exit of Rt8, i can attest to this...

cot: That's not backing anything up. Here's the first actual data I found.

well part of your claim was that this is a result of "nonlinear drag" but you better believe that the designers try to get the most laminar flow off of their vehicles. Assuming the data you provided is accurate, what about every other vehicle? Perhaps only these chosen vehicles really do perform poorly at higher speeds, in which case I'm wrong.

Since higher speed limits are dangerous, we should just lower them to 5 mph. That way only Michigan drivers will still manage to injure themselves in accidents.

/hopes they do raise the limit.

It doesn't matter if you raise the speed limit or not. The same people who drive the speed limit will drive the speed limit and the ones who always drive 10 over will drive 10 over, whether the speed limit is 55 or 75.

But what is the posted limit on the signs, on the signs?

Is it still true that Ohio state troopers will pull you over for speeding and then pull out the credit card swiper for you to pay on the spot? It is for this rumour that I go exactly 65MPH when I drive on the interstates in Ohio. In every other state in the northeast I can get away with doing between 70 and 75.

/except for one time just outside of Batavia, New York
//Damn you, Batavia, New York *shakes tiny fist*

I remember reading somewhere that the true safest speed is 'whatever the driver is comfortable doing'. Or, when in traffic, 'whatever everybody else is doing'.

RY28: Raising the speed limit to 70 is one sure way to save gas and cut our dependence on foreign oil ...right ?

You sound born before driving age in the 70s, so shut the fark up you little tit.

Oh let's all drive .00001mph, that'll save gas and chilruns!

Asshole.

r1niceboy: [www.funnysigns.net image 400x423]

That should be all.



Sir, the sign says "Reasonable and Prudent". I'm gonna have to write you up for "Ludicrous".

I got a speeding ticket in Ohio once while driving from Boston to Chicago. Fark you, Ashtabula County!

As someone who drives from basically the Indiana border to Zanesville fairly often, I would support this. I would support an extra lane of I-70 east traffic through downtown Columbus even more, though. That is a seriously bad bottleneck, especially if you find yourself going through there between 4 and 6.