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2012-01-12 08:53:36 PM  
Alas, I'm not surprised. After victimization one either identifies with the victim or the victimizer. Guess who Israel is mimicking, go ahead, guess.
 
2012-01-12 08:54:56 PM  
A government is dysfunctional and illegitimate unless it serves equally all who live under its jurisdiction.
 
2012-01-12 09:09:16 PM  

muck4doo: If an American was to go to Gaza and marry a Palestinian, would the Palestinian then be considered a U.S. citizen? I'm curious about that.


The Palestinian could at least apply for US citizenship and go through the process. They could never do that in Israel.
 
2012-01-12 09:20:04 PM  

Tatsuma: Stile4aly: The map proposed by Ehud Barak was untenable. It annexed about 9% of Palestinian land and only gave back 1% of Israeli land. There were some crazy examples as well where towns a few miles about would be separated by dozens of miles thanks to convoluted borders without checkpoints. They basically took a Whitman's sampler box and ate everything but the Marzipan and then wondered why the Palestinians weren't thrilled with free chocolate.

Yeah this was Olmert, not Barak.


I was referring to Camp David 2000 which is what I thought you were referencing. I need to do a bit more reading on the Annapolis convention before I comment, but I think the fact that Olmert was voted out of power shortly and replaced with Netenyahu shows the level of support within Israel for a road map type solution.
 
2012-01-12 09:20:26 PM  

GAT_00: It's like they're actively trying to become 1939 Germany now.


They did build a nice wall for a while there, didn't they?
 
2012-01-12 09:52:22 PM  
We're bombing the wrong country.
 
2012-01-12 09:56:21 PM  
Religion, is there anything it can't fark up?
 
2012-01-12 09:57:18 PM  
Phil Moskowitz ,
hubiestubert: Tell me again how this paves the path towards reconcilliation and peace.,,
At some point, the Israelis are going to have to either admit that a half century of this crap hasn't worked, or they're going to have to just say, "EVERYONE OUT!" and deal with a reduced labor pool.
Are you joking? A half century and have you seen how much land they've absorbed? It's not only working perfectly, it's working as intended. Pretend Israel is a slow motion Germany seeking Lebensraum. Stability would kill their plan. This low level, heavy retaliation model is a war fought in decades.
This is how you ethnically cleanse a swath of land for annexation without forcing the world to act.


I saw this amazing video on youtube, I didn't want to believe it was real. There was one [presumed] Palestinian Arab neighbor that probably refused to sell in a neighborhood was that asorbed by Israeli settlers. The house had to be covered in some sort of chickenwire because kids were constantly throwing stones at the house. A Jewish woman walked up to the Arab woman and tried to incite her by calling her a whore mutltiple times to her face. This is while a camera is running. Soldiers were posted around the house to only make sure they were not attacked or firebombed, ect. I wanted to believe it was fake, but didn't see any marks of that. It was possible the settlers were some sort of neo-orthdox, but can't read the tea-leaves that well.

/Would find the video, but can't.
//Cut funding to Israel, they are on their own.
 
2012-01-12 10:00:22 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: thamike: Amos Quito: How many American politicians have pledged their fealty to the racist apartheid Israeli regime?

Obama?

Hasn't Obama been roundly criticized for criticizing Israel's policies?



While Obama has been kissing Israeli ass, they have expressed their displeasure at his lack of deep-tongue action - such as his failure to pardon Jonathan Pollard, daring to voice his displeasure with settlement construction, being too slow in nuking Iran, etc.

Hell, they've even threatened to hold back support.

But Obey is coming around - as evidenced by the fact that he did give them 55 bunker-buster bombs, and we are imposing unwarranted sanctions on Iran.

Still, my guess is that the Friends of AIPAC money (and media support) will go to Romney.
 
2012-01-12 10:05:53 PM  
jigger
Those actually are Arab.

Most Egyptians are Egyptians. Many Libyans, Tunisians, and most Algerians are Bedouin. Most Moroccans are Berber. Not that this stops any of them from calling themselves Arab...
 
2012-01-12 10:07:01 PM  

Enemabag Jones: I saw this amazing video on youtube, I didn't want to believe it was real. There was one [presumed] Palestinian Arab neighbor that probably refused to sell in a neighborhood was that asorbed by Israeli settlers. The house had to be covered in some sort of chickenwire because kids were constantly throwing stones at the house. A Jewish woman walked up to the Arab woman and tried to incite her by calling her a whore mutltiple times to her face. This is while a camera is running. Soldiers were posted around the house to only make sure they were not attacked or firebombed, ect. I wanted to believe it was fake, but didn't see any marks of that. It was possible the settlers were some sort of neo-orthdox, but can't read the tea-leaves that well.


Louis Theroux: The Ultra Zionists

You'll never look at that country the same way again.

I watched this other video where they were out at a checkpoint, this IDF soldier actually called the palestinians cockroaches. Right out of the Rwandan hate textbook.
Israel is an example of how you can turn any culture, no matter how advanced and educated, into vile savages. It's just getting worse now too, picking up speed going downhill. They're going after their own women. Israel should be a farking beacon, like Scandinavia, instead its a demoralizing truth rubbed right in your face.
 
2012-01-12 10:13:26 PM  
memedepot.com
 
2012-01-12 10:15:01 PM  
The current leaders in Israel:
orangecow.org
/hot
 
2012-01-12 10:25:47 PM  
There isn't going to be any way to fix religion, unfortunately.
 
2012-01-12 10:30:22 PM  
I've got opinions. I won't share them, some of you would agree, others would disagree and I don't consider myself sufficiently informed on the peace process past feeling both sides continually appear to shoot themselves in the foot.

However, I do want to say, any nation that produces a group like Infected Mushroom can't be all bad.

Heavyweight

I seriously love this group, every tune, every album. I really doubt you'll enjoy it on the first listen, but you'll enjoy it soon enough.
 
2012-01-12 10:33:25 PM  
Phil Moskowitz,Louis Theroux: The Ultra Zionists
You'll never look at that country the same way again.
I watched this other video where they were out at a checkpoint, this IDF soldier actually called the palestinians cockroaches. Right out of the Rwandan hate textbook.
Israel is an example of how you can turn any culture, no matter how advanced and educated, into vile savages. It's just getting worse now too, picking up speed going downhill. They're going after their own women. Israel should be a farking beacon, like Scandinavia, instead its a demoralizing truth rubbed right in your face.


I never considered myself anti-Israeli. Now between some fundie Jewish sects gaining ground and other bad PR, I don't know anymore. Negative perceptions are going to bleed over into the Jewish religion if this is not put in check by the moderate majority of the followers.

/If Israel is going to be another fundie state in the middle-east, let them do it without US assistance.
 
2012-01-12 10:41:07 PM  

KarmicDisaster: There isn't going to be any way to fix religion, unfortunately.



Of course there is!

www.valleyanimalcoalition.org

Don't be such a pessimist!
 
2012-01-12 11:00:39 PM  

Wendy's Chili: Wendy's Chili: Tatsuma: to allow them to have Israeli citizenship and perform terrorist acts in Israel.

Does the ban bar them from being citizens or bar them from entering the country? Because I don't think you need to be a citizen somewhere to blow it up.

I'd really like an answer to this Tatsuma.


He stopped answering. I wonder if today was finally the day where all that twisted reasoning he does finally caused him to have an aneurism.
 
2012-01-12 11:15:24 PM  

Amos Quito: muck4doo: Israel's top court has upheld a law denying citizenship to Palestinians married to Israelis, with one judge saying it helped the Jewish state fend off "national suicide" [paging Dr. Kevorkian... Dr. Jack Kevorkian to the white courtesy phone please] ...Israeli law guarantees full civil rights, including political representation, to Arab citizens, who are mostly Muslim. But they often complain of entrenched racism.

If an American was to go to Gaza and marry a Palestinian, would the Palestinian then be considered a U.S. citizen? I'm curious about that.


AFAIK, You are not a US citizen unless you're either born here or naturalized via the citizenship process, but a Pallie married to an American would certainly not be prevented from moving here, gaining residency and applying for citizenship simply because (s)he was of Palestinian origin - as they are in Israel.


gadian: muck4doo: If an American was to go to Gaza and marry a Palestinian, would the Palestinian then be considered a U.S. citizen? I'm curious about that.

The Palestinian could at least apply for US citizenship and go through the process. They could never do that in Israel.


Thank you.
 
2012-01-12 11:40:50 PM  
Even with Israel's frantic efforts to preserve it's "ethnic purity"(where have I heard that term before?), they're doomed to obsolescence. They can't match the population growth of their neighbors or even the arab minority in their own country. In a couple generations they'll be dead and gone. Good riddance.
 
2012-01-12 11:46:05 PM  

Amos Quito: KarmicDisaster: There isn't going to be any way to fix religion, unfortunately.


Of course there is!

[www.valleyanimalcoalition.org image 300x314]

Don't be such a pessimist!


That's going to be a lot of people to neuter. Can't we just irradiate the entire region?
 
2012-01-12 11:49:48 PM  

JesusJuice: Even with Israel's frantic efforts to preserve it's "ethnic purity"(where have I heard that term before?), they're doomed to obsolescence. They can't match the population growth of their neighbors or even the arab minority in their own country. In a couple generations they'll be dead and gone. Good riddance.


*sniff* *sniff* I smell a troll somewhere's around here...
 
2012-01-13 12:04:35 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: [i.imgur.com image 640x423]
Jesus Christ on a stick, Israel threads never cease to amaze me in their ability to lure people in.


after I'm done reading it, I'm gonna ignore him just to see the thread collapse in on itself like a dying star.

/then I'll un-ignore; don't want anyone thinking I'm an anti-semite
 
2012-01-13 12:30:49 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Amos Quito: KarmicDisaster: There isn't going to be any way to fix religion, unfortunately.


Of course there is!

[www.valleyanimalcoalition.org image 300x314]

Don't be such a pessimist!

That's going to be a lot of people to neuter. Can't we just irradiate the entire region?



I'm all for efficiency.
 
2012-01-13 01:27:39 AM  
LOL at Tats taking the role as official spokesmen of Israel and Judaica as a whole and people buying into that. SHAMWOW!
 
2012-01-13 01:44:01 AM  

TheBigJerk: JesusJuice: Even with Israel's frantic efforts to preserve it's "ethnic purity"(where have I heard that term before?), they're doomed to obsolescence. They can't match the population growth of their neighbors or even the arab minority in their own country. In a couple generations they'll be dead and gone. Good riddance.

*sniff* *sniff* I smell a troll somewhere's around here...


You should shower.
 
2012-01-13 02:12:10 AM  

Amos Quito: FTA: "Interior Minister Eli Yishai, who congratulated the Supreme Court on Thursday, made clear that shoring up Israel's Jewish majority was also a concern. Yishai's party, run by rabbis, is a powerful partner in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's rightist coalition."


Q. What do you call an Israel that loses its Jewish majority?
A. Wasrael


Darwin -- not just for individuals.

/why isn't Israel given the South Africa treatment?
 
2012-01-13 02:15:05 AM  

MithrandirBooga: Wendy's Chili: Wendy's Chili: Tatsuma: to allow them to have Israeli citizenship and perform terrorist acts in Israel.

Does the ban bar them from being citizens or bar them from entering the country? Because I don't think you need to be a citizen somewhere to blow it up.

I'd really like an answer to this Tatsuma.

He stopped answering. I wonder if today was finally the day where all that twisted reasoning he does finally caused him to have an aneurism.


Has anyone ever put an entire thread on ignore before? How long does that take, or are there scripts for that now?
 
2012-01-13 02:50:32 AM  

brap: LOL at Tats taking the role as official spokesmen of Israel and Judaica as a whole and people buying into that. SHAMWOW!


He does it because there are a lot of Anti-semites here. Most of them try to hide their hate by saying they are "anti-zionists", but they only fool themselves and their tool buddies on Fark spewing the same crap. Agreed, Israel is wrong on this, but many of those here that are most angry are always pissed off at the Jews anyways. It's the last safe place for proper pc progressives to spew their hate. Jews. Not like they are black or mexican or something. Hell, the good ones hate themselves.Proper Jews should hate themselves, okay? The good Jew is the one who thinks they shouldn't have a homeland for themselves. They have oppressed the Muslim world by having that sliver of land for themselves.

www.masada2000.org

Help! We're being oppressed!
 
2012-01-13 04:01:42 AM  
muck4doo
He does it because there are a lot of Anti-semites here.

You are really dumb. For real.
 
2012-01-13 04:23:32 AM  

wedding vegetables: Sock Ruh Tease: [i.imgur.com image 640x423]
Jesus Christ on a stick, Israel threads never cease to amaze me in their ability to lure people in.

after I'm done reading it, I'm gonna ignore him just to see the thread collapse in on itself like a dying star.

/then I'll un-ignore; don't want anyone thinking I'm an anti-semite


Eh, I put Tats on Ignore a few weeks back. The thread still takes a while to wade through.
 
2012-01-13 04:43:52 AM  

Mrtraveler01: No, the hard-wingers in Israel are really that stupid and unreasonable.

Don't forget, some of them beat up a 7-year old girl and called her a whore just for walking to school.


These people are not 'hard-right wingers' and they did not 'beat up a 7 year old'

They are Neturei Karta, those guys who go to Iran kiss Ahmadinejad and hold posters against Zionism, and they spat at the little girl

Seriously, if you can't get basic facts right, why do you ever bother?
 
2012-01-13 04:46:04 AM  

Raoul_Ramirez: When a terrorist organization did this in 1946 in Israel


That "terrorist organization" was targeting the military command post of the British in the area, they also called twice to tell them to get out but they refused

That has nothing to do with blowing yourself up in a bus.

I always say that I would not consider Hamas terrorists but guerrillas if they limited their attacks to soldiers and not civilians
 
2012-01-13 04:48:02 AM  

Stile4aly: I was referring to Camp David 2000 which is what I thought you were referencing. I need to do a bit more reading on the Annapolis


I'm not talking about Annapolis either


.... seriously do you people ever study this subject before talking about it? I mean, come on.
 
2012-01-13 04:51:34 AM  

brap: LOL at Tats taking the role as official spokesmen of Israel and Judaica as a whole and people buying into that. SHAMWOW!


I'm not taking that role, but why would it be funny either way?
 
2012-01-13 05:16:09 AM  

RanDomino: muck4doo
He does it because there are a lot of Anti-semites here.

You are really dumb. For real.


Wow. You sure proved your point. Look at how smart you are. Ever think of having a library started in your name? It can be the "I am an anti-zionist, but don't really hate j0000s library" or something.
 
2012-01-13 05:21:25 AM  

Tatsuma: Stile4aly: I was referring to Camp David 2000 which is what I thought you were referencing. I need to do a bit more reading on the Annapolis

I'm not talking about Annapolis either


.... seriously do you people ever study this subject before talking about it? I mean, come on.


You realize what site you are on, right?
 
2012-01-13 05:28:05 AM  

muck4doo: You realize what site you are on, right?


meh, people three or four years ago, even if they were just as anti-Israel, at least took some time to read before trashing us

now it's just lazy with no substance
 
2012-01-13 05:30:51 AM  

Tatsuma: muck4doo: You realize what site you are on, right?

meh, people three or four years ago, even if they were just as anti-Israel, at least took some time to read before trashing us

now it's just lazy with no substance


You've been defeated by the idiot brigade. It was bound to happen. It's not going to get any better.
 
2012-01-13 05:43:37 AM  

muck4doo: You've been defeated by the idiot brigade. It was bound to happen. It's not going to get any better.


the redittdiggification of fark
 
2012-01-13 05:46:18 AM  

Tatsuma: Raoul_Ramirez: When a terrorist organization did this in 1946 in Israel

That "terrorist organization" was targeting the military command post of the British in the area, they also called twice to tell them to get out but they refused

That has nothing to do with blowing yourself up in a bus.

I always say that I would not consider Hamas terrorists but guerrillas if they limited their attacks to soldiers and not civilians


Sorry, I was unaware of the special rule that makes blowing people up somehow acceptable (and not terrorism at all) if you call them first and tell them you're going to do so.

Stating "I am going to fark you up" and then proceeding to do so is one less degree of dickishness on a scale from one to a million. The act of committing a violent terrorist act is difficult to defend, but it can be analyzed so that we can understand it more. This will hopefully make a future where people don't feel like doing that kind of thing to each other quite so much, whether or not they give each other warning, or target only troops.

As a bonus sidenote, FTFWikipedia, in regards to the King David hotel bombing, which was preceded by a smaller bomb detonation nearby:
"this explosion resulted in a higher death toll because it caused spectators from the hotel to gather in its south-west corner, directly over the bomb planted in its basement, and it also caused the presence there of injured Arabs who were brought into the Secretariat after their bus, which was passing, was rolled onto its side"

Good thing these freedom bombers didn't target any buses. They just didn't give a flying fark if there were any going by when they set off a bomb. Again, this somehow makes it totally different from terrorism.
 
2012-01-13 05:47:09 AM  

bidness: Uncle Tractor:
[i560.photobucket.com image 640x426]


Images are fun, aren't they?

[i96.photobucket.com image 640x414]


Let's see ... my image is about Israel taking more and more Palestinian land while at the same time whining about "anti-semitism," while your image says that it's ok for israel to take land from arab / muslim (brown people?) because they have so much of it.
 
2012-01-13 05:49:09 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Israel really does have potential to be a shining example of a functioning democracy in the middle east.


Yes, but they'd have to give up that "Jewish State" nonsense to realize that potential.
 
2012-01-13 05:49:38 AM  

Tatsuma: muck4doo: You've been defeated by the idiot brigade. It was bound to happen. It's not going to get any better.

the redittdiggification of fark


Get used to it Tats. You will always be a fave of mine here. The idiot brigade has taken over though. The quicker you realize that, the more comfortable you will be when coming here.
 
2012-01-13 05:59:00 AM  

Raoul_Ramirez: Sorry, I was unaware of the special rule that makes blowing people up somehow acceptable (and not terrorism at all) if you call them first and tell them you're going to do so.


I am saying that there is a HUGE difference between going on a bus and blowing yourself up in the middle of civilians, and going into a bombing that is used by the military, setting up bombs with timers and giving them like an hour to evacuate.

Do you truly not see the difference?

Raoul_Ramirez: The act of committing a violent terrorist act is difficult to defend, but it can be analyzed so that we can understand it more.


See, it was NOT meant to be a violent act of terrorism, it was meant to be an act of terrorism. Not to kill people, but to blow up a building without people inside. A building that was important to them

Instead they decided to go 'Oh hum, we're not leaving'. While the actual commander 'decided to take a stroll'
 
2012-01-13 06:00:03 AM  

muck4doo: He does it because there are a lot of Anti-semites here. Most of them try to hide their hate by saying they are "anti-zionists", but they only fool themselves and their tool buddies on Fark spewing the same crap.


i560.photobucket.com

Zionism is a toxic ideology and Israel is a racist shiathole. That's what this is about. Nothing else.

The "anti-semite" argument has been played out. It's worthless. Only dishonest or profoundly ignorant / deluded people still use the "anti-semite" argument.

The good Jew is the one who thinks they shouldn't have a homeland for themselves. They have oppressed the Muslim world by having that sliver of land for themselves.

[www.masada2000.org image 640x319]

Help! We're being oppressed!


So, because the muslim world is so large, it's ok to help yourself to a piece, right? By the same logic, does that mean that (for example) expat chinese can help themselves to a sliver of the US? I mean, the US has so much land, after all ...
 
2012-01-13 06:01:04 AM  
I mean, seriously how can you even equivocate between blowing up a building after warning people to get out, a building used by the military, versus a bus full of women and old people?

How do you not get that one is a terrorist act, and the other the act of a guerrilla

muck4doo: Get used to it Tats. You will always be a fave of mine here. The idiot brigade has taken over though. The quicker you realize that, the more comfortable you will be when coming here.


We, not you.

Don't you know I'm multiple people posting under the same name, and also posting under multiple names?

I mean, get on with the times, mate.
 
2012-01-13 06:04:26 AM  

Tatsuma: I am saying that there is a HUGE difference between going on a bus and blowing yourself up in the middle of civilians, and going into a bombing that is used by the military, setting up bombs with timers and giving them like an hour to evacuate.


Did mossad give that iranian scientist an hour to evacuate?

When it comes to terrorism, israelis should stfu.
 
2012-01-13 06:09:18 AM  

Tatsuma: I mean, seriously how can you even equivocate between blowing up a building after warning people to get out, a building used by the military, versus a bus full of women and old people?

How do you not get that one is a terrorist act, and the other the act of a guerrilla

muck4doo: Get used to it Tats. You will always be a fave of mine here. The idiot brigade has taken over though. The quicker you realize that, the more comfortable you will be when coming here.

We, not you.

Don't you know I'm multiple people posting under the same name, and also posting under multiple names?

I mean, get on with the times, mate.


I mean, come on. Get it now muck4doo?
 
2012-01-13 06:10:40 AM  

muck4doo: I mean, come on. Get it now muck4doo?


I need to sort those loggings out man
 
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