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(STLToday)   medIa insiSts they'Re bAffled, have no idEa who is going after nucLear scientists   (stltoday.com) divider line 163
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2012-01-12 12:26:59 PM

Voiceofreason01: /tatsuma alt?


No I'm not Tatsuma, or anyone's alt for that matter.

Believe it or not, more than one person agrees that Israel is not horrible.
 
2012-01-12 12:27:00 PM

Beast: Hillary Clinton said: "I want to categorically deny any United States involvement in any kind of act of violence inside Iran..."

The key words here are "I want".

She "wants" to deny it like I "wanna be a billionaire so f****** bad".

She means "wish" as in she wishes the guys on the motorcycle weren't so obvious about planting a bomb, or that Stuxnet was revealed, or that the nuclear facilities in Iranian bunkers were already pulverized by a GBU-57A/B or twelve.


I am sooooooo glad I'm not the only one who caught that.

Her husband is Slick Willie after all. If anyone can weasel-word and obfuscate their way through this one, it's a Clinton.
 
2012-01-12 12:29:28 PM
depmode98: Also I have a feeling that if Iran ever were to develop nuclear weapons and obliterate the entire country if Israel, the sentiment would be lol those Muslims ara zany! But one scientist in Iran out of the thousands that are killed their by their own government, and it's the Jews who are "systematically exterminating brown people"

+1 Absolutely right.

On one side you have a free, tolerant, democratic society. The other side are basically barbarians, with no freedom, massive, evil intolerance, zero democracy, killing their own people by the thousands..

And yet so many Farkers try to claim they're both equally bad. Insane. The free, progressive society has a moral RIGHT to try to protect itself from the barbarians.

Case Closed.
 
2012-01-12 12:35:21 PM

Tatsuma: Voiceofreason01: /tatsuma alt?

No I'm not Tatsuma, or anyone's alt for that matter.

Believe it or not, more than one person agrees that Israel is not horrible.


Well, this is almost as good as the "I'm traveling" bit...

Almost.
 
2012-01-12 12:54:41 PM
Paging frepnog. Paging....
 
2012-01-12 12:56:00 PM
While I do believe Israel did this..

I can also believe Jordan, Saudi Arabia, or Iraq did this. All three of them have made it very clear that they are not fans of the "let's end the world" mentality of the iranians and their nuke plans. Now, they aren't as targeted, but they'd rather not have a nuclear war go off in their back yard.
 
2012-01-12 12:56:47 PM
The author, Sheera Frenkel, can't figure this out? Weird.

Put real journalists on it, like Judith Miller and Wolf Blitzer, they will get to the bottom of this.
 
2012-01-12 01:03:46 PM

redcard: While I do believe Israel did this..

I can also believe Jordan, Saudi Arabia, or Iraq did this. All three of them have made it very clear that they are not fans of the "let's end the world" mentality of the iranians and their nuke plans. Now, they aren't as targeted, but they'd rather not have a nuclear war go off in their back yard.




Ironic that Iran was the first country in the region to attack a neighboring countries nuclear facility.
Yet they are stunned someone wants to attack theirs.....
 
2012-01-12 01:07:44 PM

JackieRabbit: It is the CIA and Mossad. There can be no question about this.


No. This is retarded. The CIA alone, yeah, maybe, they have a history of short-sighted idiocy, but Mossad is not...

/Goddamnit, there goes my faith in humanity again.
 
2012-01-12 01:08:32 PM

Yugoboy: Her husband is Slick Willie after all. If anyone can weasel-word and obfuscate their way through this one, it's a Clinton.


I assume that's a crucial skill for any Secretary of State.
 
2012-01-12 01:19:10 PM

Tatsuma: Voiceofreason01: /tatsuma alt?

No I'm not Tatsuma, or anyone's alt for that matter.

Believe it or not, more than one person agrees that Israel is not horrible.


Tatsuma saying he's not Tatsuma? OOPS!

What we have here, is official boney-fied proof that Tats is full of shiat. Wow!
 
2012-01-12 01:23:27 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Tatsuma: Voiceofreason01: /tatsuma alt?

No I'm not Tatsuma, or anyone's alt for that matter.

Believe it or not, more than one person agrees that Israel is not horrible.

Well, this is almost as good as the "I'm traveling" bit...

Almost.


Traveling. Yes, that was the equation...
 
2012-01-12 01:24:03 PM

joaquin closet: Tatsuma: Voiceofreason01: /tatsuma alt?

No I'm not Tatsuma, or anyone's alt for that matter.

Believe it or not, more than one person agrees that Israel is not horrible.

Tatsuma saying he's not Tatsuma? OOPS!

What we have here, is official boney-fied proof that Tats is full of shiat. Wow!


images.wikia.com
 
2012-01-12 01:31:44 PM

joaquin closet: Tatsuma saying he's not Tatsuma? OOPS!

What we have here, is official boney-fied proof that Tats is full of shiat. Wow!



Not like it's news. I remember when he got called out on his grasp of the english language changing from day to day. He tried to claim he had just woken up, and that was the reason for him mangling simple idioms the way a non-native speaker would. It was hilarious.
 
2012-01-12 01:36:46 PM
If I were Iran, I'd remember this.
"Everytime someone in our country gets killed in a flashy, overt way, everyone blames Isreal. Hmmmmm...."

This sounds like a perfect opportunity for them to kill a bunch of political enemies, say they were nuclear scientists, and get the world all riled up at Isreal. Win-win situation.

Naw, there's no way they'd ever do that, I've heard those brown people are like cavemen they're so dumb. Even George W. Monkeybutt Bush outsmarted 'em! Even Odumbber the Seecrt Mooslim outsmarted 'em!

Even if they did kill political enemies to make Isreal look bad, I bet those darn Joos made them do it. Everything is those darn Joos fault.

/you people are seriously retarded
 
2012-01-12 01:43:40 PM

joaquin closet: Tatsuma: Voiceofreason01: /tatsuma alt?

No I'm not Tatsuma, or anyone's alt for that matter.

Believe it or not, more than one person agrees that Israel is not horrible.

Tatsuma saying he's not Tatsuma? OOPS!

What we have here, is official boney-fied proof that Tats is full of shiat. Wow!


I'm convinced. I wonder how many people are actually Tatsuma, how many alts actually are Tatsuma and why women won't talk to me.
 
2012-01-12 01:43:59 PM

VictoryCabal: Glenn raises a good point: It's only terrorism when Muslims do itDoes anyone have any doubt whatsoever that if Iran were sending hit squads to kill Israeli scientists in Tel Aviv, or was murdering a series of American scientists at Los Alamos (while wounding several of their wives, including, in one instance, shooting them in front of their child's kindergarten), that those acts would be universally denounced as Terrorism, and the only debate would be whether the retaliation should be nuclear, carpet-bombing, or invasion? As always, Terrorism is the most meaningless - and thus most manipulated - term of propaganda; it's always what They do and never what We do.


Definitely a good point. Terrorism is a specific act of attacking civilians with no connection to the military for the sole purpose of causing fear in the populace to undermine their support for a cause or some other goal.

This is targeted assassination, which has little to do with scaring the general populace and more to do with removing specific individuals from being involved in military operations (in this case, developing atomic weapons).

So, in your scenario above, if Iranian agents assassinated Israeli or American nuclear weapons scientists, it would not be terrorism at all.

On the other hand, the Iranians arming and funding shiate Islamic extremist groups in Iraq and Lebanon, encouraging them to murder civilians, is terrorism. Something they have been doing for decades.

So, while I don't support the collateral damage of these attacks (the wives and children), I'm having a hard time coming up with enough outrage to condemn them.
 
2012-01-12 01:44:34 PM

InfamousBLT: If I were Iran, I'd remember this.
"Everytime someone in our country gets killed in a flashy, overt way, everyone blames Isreal. Hmmmmm...."

This sounds like a perfect opportunity for them to kill a bunch of political enemies, say they were nuclear scientists, and get the world all riled up at Isreal. Win-win situation.

Naw, there's no way they'd ever do that, I've heard those brown people are like cavemen they're so dumb. Even George W. Monkeybutt Bush outsmarted 'em! Even Odumbber the Seecrt Mooslim outsmarted 'em!

Even if they did kill political enemies to make Isreal look bad, I bet those darn Joos made them do it. Everything is those darn Joos fault.

/you people are seriously retarded



Methinks thou dost protest too much.
 
2012-01-12 01:46:12 PM
Brown people this, brown people that...the Jews, Persians and Arabs are all white. Ask your government, they'll tell you.
 
2012-01-12 01:55:38 PM
indarwinsshadow
Hey mods. I find it interesting that certain members of Fark are allowed to publicly name and troll other members and you stay in the background, yet anyone mentions monkeys and snow you get all upset and banny. No, no antisemitism at Fark. No that's just crazy talk.

There must be a joke somewhere that I'm missing. It's either that or you're claiming that Fark mods are antisemites and that's just farking moronic.

Tatsuma
No I'm not Tatsuma, or anyone's alt for that matter.

Wait, what?
 
2012-01-12 02:00:54 PM

Tatsuma: Voiceofreason01: /tatsuma alt?

No I'm not Tatsuma, or anyone's alt for that matter.

Believe it or not, more than one person agrees that Israel is not horrible.


That's cool. I'm not Skyd1v either, nor any of his alt's.

Yeah, fark him. That Skyd1v guy is a jerk.
 
2012-01-12 02:02:43 PM

ZMugg: joaquin closet: Tatsuma: Voiceofreason01: /tatsuma alt?

No I'm not Tatsuma, or anyone's alt for that matter.

Believe it or not, more than one person agrees that Israel is not horrible.

Tatsuma saying he's not Tatsuma? OOPS!

What we have here, is official boney-fied proof that Tats is full of shiat. Wow!

images.wikia.com


i.imgur.com
 
2012-01-12 02:02:50 PM

Skyd1v: Tatsuma: Voiceofreason01: /tatsuma alt?

No I'm not Tatsuma, or anyone's alt for that matter.

Believe it or not, more than one person agrees that Israel is not horrible.

That's cool. I'm not Skyd1v either, nor any of his alt's.

Yeah, fark him. That Skyd1v guy is a jerk.


No, I am not Tatsuma!

I am not Skyd1v!
 
2012-01-12 02:03:04 PM

patrick767: Wait, what?


I am in fact 67.4% of all Fark members.
 
2012-01-12 02:16:15 PM
images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-01-12 02:16:53 PM
Tatsuma
I am in fact 67.4% of all Fark members.

An alt, a virgin, or both?
 
2012-01-12 02:22:57 PM

Captain_Ballbeard: joaquin closet: Tatsuma saying he's not Tatsuma? OOPS!

What we have here, is official boney-fied proof that Tats is full of shiat. Wow!


Not like it's news. I remember when he got called out on his grasp of the english language changing from day to day. He tried to claim he had just woken up, and that was the reason for him mangling simple idioms the way a non-native speaker would. It was hilarious.


Wait, let me get this straight. Is it that Tats has many alts, or do multiple people log in with his account? Or is it both?
 
2012-01-12 02:26:48 PM

saddlesablazin: Captain_Ballbeard: joaquin closet: Tatsuma saying he's not Tatsuma? OOPS!

What we have here, is official boney-fied proof that Tats is full of shiat. Wow!


Not like it's news. I remember when he got called out on his grasp of the english language changing from day to day. He tried to claim he had just woken up, and that was the reason for him mangling simple idioms the way a non-native speaker would. It was hilarious.

Wait, let me get this straight. Is it that Tats has many alts, or do multiple people log in with his account? Or is it both?


It's probably both. He or they certainly use alts besides Tatsuma in the same thread.
 
2012-01-12 02:31:40 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-01-12 02:32:25 PM

Tatsuma: Voiceofreason01: /tatsuma alt?

No I'm not Tatsuma, or anyone's alt for that matter.

Believe it or not, more than one person agrees that Israel is not horrible.


Train wreck at 12 o-clock cap'n!
Brace for impact!
 
2012-01-12 02:35:01 PM

saddlesablazin: Wait, let me get this straight. Is it that Tats has many alts, or do multiple people log in with his account? Or is it both?


I am all the Tatsumas

We are legion

We are Fark
 
2012-01-12 02:35:30 PM
images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-01-12 02:40:03 PM

saddlesablazin: Wait, let me get this straight. Is it that Tats has many alts, or do multiple people log in with his account? Or is it both?



It seemed like multiple users on the one account. I can't remember the story, but it was breaking news at the time, and "Tatsuma" shows up, defending the indefensible, but mangling simple english idioms and other nuances of the language, sounding like a Russian in a bad movie. He gets called out on it, claims he was asleep and his lack of sleep caused him to forget english and disappears from thread for a few hours. Pretty obvious.
 
2012-01-12 02:40:34 PM
images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-01-12 02:42:42 PM
Let the cross-referencing begin.
 
2012-01-12 02:43:10 PM
Everyone gets all hot and bothered about the wipe Israel off the map comment but McCain sang bomb, bomb, bomb Iran on the campaign trail and acted like it was no big deal. The Iranian leadership are bad guys but the hypocrisy of those who hate them so very, very much all while being blindly in favor of American or Israeli exceptionalism awaken the urge to slap them.

I see both instances as very concerning by the way and I don't know what the answer is. However, I refuse to pretend there is a mountain of moral high ground in this situation I believe the US and Israeli foreign policy high gound is more on the order of a mole hill.
 
2012-01-12 02:44:30 PM

TravisBickle62: I got MISA


There's a salve for that.
 
2012-01-12 02:45:19 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: It's probably both. He or they certainly use alts besides Tatsuma in the same thread.


Hasbara Brigade.
 
2012-01-12 02:48:49 PM

ZMugg: joaquin closet: Tatsuma: Voiceofreason01: /tatsuma alt?

No I'm not Tatsuma, or anyone's alt for that matter.

Believe it or not, more than one person agrees that Israel is not horrible.

Tatsuma saying he's not Tatsuma? OOPS!

What we have here, is official boney-fied proof that Tats is full of shiat. Wow!

[images.wikia.com image 288x475]


As a boy I wanted to be Spock. Sadly that didn't happen but I agree that Israel is not horrible so that's... close? Not Tatsumaki sempuu kyaku
 
2012-01-12 02:49:38 PM
Tatsuma.. using sock puppets? unpossible...
 
2012-01-12 03:03:29 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-01-12 03:03:44 PM
Okay, this one made me laugh.

images.cheezburger.com

Seriously, Tats. WTF?

Not as epic as the "Marine Core" or "FlyNavy" incidences, but amusing nonetheless.
 
2012-01-12 03:04:07 PM

Thorak: mbillips: I'm not saying I agree with the Mossad secretly murdering Iranian scientists. I'm just saying I can see their point of view.

Iran will keep trying to get nuclear weapons just as long as Israel keeps assassinating Iranians. This just continues the hostilities and exacerbates them, and unless it actually DOES stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons, it's actually encouraging future nuclear warfare.


I'm pretty sure Iran was intransigent about developing the bomb long before the Israelis started murdering their scientists. Israel poses no strategic threat to Iran; Iran's "national interest" that conflicts with Israel is just pan-Muslim sympathy for the Palestinians. And Iran having the bomb makes it MORE likely that they'll get nuked, because the Israelis will have their overwhelmingly larger arsenal on a first-strike trigger.

I can see the Iranian desire for defensive nukes to stave off a U.S. conventional attack. Thanks, W, for that well-founded fear.
 
2012-01-12 03:05:38 PM

Tatsuma: saddlesablazin: Wait, let me get this straight. Is it that Tats has many alts, or do multiple people log in with his account? Or is it both?

I am all the Tatsumas

We are legion

We are Fark


I'm Tatsuma, and so is my wife!
 
2012-01-12 03:07:25 PM
Is there a badge for this thread? I hope it has the thread number on it.
 
2012-01-12 03:07:57 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-01-12 03:12:24 PM

Committee_For_Aesthetic_Deletions: Seriously, Tats. WTF?


Well I made a joke and apparently the special bus brigade ran with it. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
 
2012-01-12 03:15:10 PM
nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-01-12 03:17:03 PM
images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-01-12 03:18:21 PM

mark12A: depmode98: Also I have a feeling that if Iran ever were to develop nuclear weapons and obliterate the entire country if Israel, the sentiment would be lol those Muslims ara zany! But one scientist in Iran out of the thousands that are killed their by their own government, and it's the Jews who are "systematically exterminating brown people"

+1 Absolutely right.

On one side you have a free, tolerant, democratic society. The other side are basically barbarians, with no freedom, massive, evil intolerance, zero democracy, killing their own people by the thousands..

And yet so many Farkers try to claim they're both equally bad. Insane. The free, progressive society has a moral RIGHT to try to protect itself from the barbarians.

Case Closed.


Yeeeeaaaahh. If Israel didn't have a society divided between hawks and doves to the point that the fanatical fundamentalist settlers were the key voting bloc, and given carte blanche to build illegal settlements all over the majority-Arab occupied territory, then you might have a point.

Israelis for the most part are the good guys. But there is NO difference between the Basij militia in Iran and the ultra-orthodox Jews who spit on girls for having the temerity to walk to school without their hair covered. And those wingnuts are why there's no Middle East settlement.
 
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