Good, it sounded like he went a little overboard.

But not the convicted murderers who did such a FINE job cleaning his mansion. They are still free.

Mugato: downpaymentblues: But not the convicted murderers who did such a FINE job cleaning his mansion. They are still free.

Those are the good ones.

yeah he might have need of their special skills in the private sector.

Hobodeluxe: Mugato: downpaymentblues: But not the convicted murderers who did such a FINE job cleaning his mansion. They are still free.

Those are the good ones.

yeah he might have need of their special skills in the private sector.

They didn't narc on his stash.

WI241TH: FTFA: Among those pardoned were Earnest Scott Favre, older brother of retired NFL quarterback Brett Favre, convicted of driving drunk and causing his friend's death.

That's Favre'd up

I'm not surprised to find out a southern Governor is a Farve fan.

cman: namatad: damn activist judges

In all seriousness, this

As much as I hate what the governor did I think that this judge is wrong.

Really? Cause the governor may have violated the state's constitution, and a court is kind of the place those things get settled lol.

Part of the reason for having a pardon in the first place is so that if the system is horribly unfair, a governor can fix that. You all should know that not every convicted murderer in the south is guilty. Shame on your ability to realize that. Southern Justice != Real Justice.

/disclaimer - I have no familiarity with the cases involved, just the basic concept of bs convictions all over the south.

This will be Haley Barber's Willie Horton.

/mmm, Hortons

GAT_00: What is it with Southern governors freeing convicted murderers?

Hey at least when Tennessee's gov did it , it was for cash.

Gotta get your priorities straight.

rev. dave: Part of the reason for having a pardon in the first place is so that if the system is horribly unfair, a governor can fix that. You all should know that not every convicted murderer in the south is guilty. Shame on your ability to realize that. Southern Justice != Real Justice.

/disclaimer - I have no familiarity with the cases involved, just the basic concept of bs convictions all over the south.

Yes and the honorable Judge Haley Barber knows deep down that all those hundreds of convictions were putting innocent men behind bars.

2wolves: I saw a number of times how he treated the homeless and the mentally ill.

So which of the two is it for you?

/joking only
//the first link on this story really pissed me off
///still not much better off

He's a real governor? I thought he was a living movie prop of a southern governor caricature!

"We need someone who sounds corrupt and looks like Boss Hogg!

cman: namatad: damn activist judges

In all seriousness, this

As much as I hate what the governor did I think that this judge is wrong.

Chesus on pretzel cross you are damned adorable.

How can a judge have the power to overturn pardons, which themselves are meant to be a check on the power of the judiciary?

/dnrtf state constitution

Lost Thought 00: How can a judge have the power to overturn pardons, which themselves are meant to be a check on the power of the judiciary?

/dnrtf state constitution

Because the Mississippi State Constitution provisions for Pardons reads as follows:

SECTION 124.
In all criminal and penal cases, excepting those of treason and impeachment, the governor shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons, to remit fines, and in cases of forfeiture, to stay the collection until the end of the next session of the legislature, and by and with the consent of the senate to remit forfeitures. In cases of treason he shall have power to grant reprieves, and by and with consent of the senate, but may respite the sentence until the end of the next session of the legislature; but no pardon shall be granted before conviction; and in cases of felony, after conviction no pardon shall be granted until the applicant therefor shall have published for thirty days, in some newspaper in the county where the crime was committed, and in case there be no newspaper published in said county, then in an adjoining county, his petition for pardon, setting forth therein the reasons why such pardon should be granted.

Barbour skipped the bolded part.

cman: namatad: damn activist judges

In all seriousness, this

As much as I hate what the governor did I think that this judge is wrong.

In all seriousness, you're a farking tard. Barbour violated the state constitution. It is precisely the judicial branch's job to step in.

Philip Francis Queeg: Lost Thought 00: How can a judge have the power to overturn pardons, which themselves are meant to be a check on the power of the judiciary?

/dnrtf state constitution

Because the Mississippi State Constitution provisions for Pardons reads as follows:

SECTION 124.
In all criminal and penal cases, excepting those of treason and impeachment, the governor shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons, to remit fines, and in cases of forfeiture, to stay the collection until the end of the next session of the legislature, and by and with the consent of the senate to remit forfeitures. In cases of treason he shall have power to grant reprieves, and by and with consent of the senate, but may respite the sentence until the end of the next session of the legislature; but no pardon shall be granted before conviction; and in cases of felony, after conviction no pardon shall be granted until the applicant therefor shall have published for thirty days, in some newspaper in the county where the crime was committed, and in case there be no newspaper published in said county, then in an adjoining county, his petition for pardon, setting forth therein the reasons why such pardon should be granted.

Barbour skipped the bolded part.

Exactly. The governor must face scrutiny *while still in office* if he's going to pull this shiat, and not skulk out the backdoor like a guilty scumbag, which is clearly what he is. This must be why he isn't running for President this year, despite being on many Conservative's short lists.

read it as "judge unpersons 21 convicts" the first time...

jso2897: GAT_00: What is it with Southern governors freeing convicted murderers?

I'd like to believe that too - but out here in Cali, Swartznegger pulled one of these that was as venal and disgusting as they come - the Nunez affair.

GAT_00: What is it with Southern governors freeing convicted murderers?

Have to make room for the pot smokers.

cman: namatad: damn activist judges

In all seriousness, this

As much as I hate what the governor did I think that this judge is wrong.



in all seriousness, this

They should be forced to live with the Gov forever.

USAToady article and Mississippi context?
That's a double no-click-click.

/WNRTFA

rev. dave: Part of the reason for having a pardon in the first place is so that if the system is horribly unfair, a governor can fix that. You all should know that not every convicted murderer in the south is guilty. Shame on your ability to realize that. Southern Justice != Real Justice.

/disclaimer - I have no familiarity with the cases involved, just the basic concept of bs convictions all over the south.

The Pardon needs to stay around for the wretchedness of California's legal system alone.

Is Fox News running the story with a D next to the governors name yet?

You have to wonder about the motivation for pardoning some of these guys.

I'm thinking "retirement account".

cman: namatad: damn activist judges
In all seriousness, this
As much as I hate what the governor did I think that this judge is wrong.

Two things about this comment....
a) I love that this numbnuts replied to something that looked like sarcasm as though it was serious
2) I love that ANYTHING a judge does is now "activist judges" doing things they shouldn't do
d) I love that explicitly breaking the state constitution is, seemingly, a-ok since the governor did it. Somewhere, Richard Nixon is silently nodding in approval.

He pardoned these guys but couldn't muster a pardon for Cory Maye? Asshole.

Philip Francis Queeg: Lost Thought 00: How can a judge have the power to overturn pardons, which themselves are meant to be a check on the power of the judiciary?

/dnrtf state constitution

Because the Mississippi State Constitution provisions for Pardons reads as follows:

SECTION 124.
In all criminal and penal cases, excepting those of treason and impeachment, the governor shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons, to remit fines, and in cases of forfeiture, to stay the collection until the end of the next session of the legislature, and by and with the consent of the senate to remit forfeitures. In cases of treason he shall have power to grant reprieves, and by and with consent of the senate, but may respite the sentence until the end of the next session of the legislature; but no pardon shall be granted before conviction; and in cases of felony, after conviction no pardon shall be granted until the applicant therefor shall have published for thirty days, in some newspaper in the county where the crime was committed, and in case there be no newspaper published in said county, then in an adjoining county, his petition for pardon, setting forth therein the reasons why such pardon should be granted.

Barbour skipped the bolded part.

Newspapers? Soon it will be impossible to pardon people in Mississippi.

rev. dave: Part of the reason for having a pardon in the first place is so that if the system is horribly unfair, a governor can fix that. You all should know that not every convicted murderer in the south is guilty. Shame on your ability to realize that. Southern Justice != Real Justice.

/disclaimer - I have no familiarity with the cases involved, just the basic concept of bs convictions all over the south.

If there were four men wrongly convicted of murder working in the governor's mansion, then either the laws of statistical probability took an extended vacation, or an enormous percentage of all people convicted of murder in MIssissippi are innocent.

The other possibility is that either these guys learned certain things about Barbour, or he plans to employ their services in the future.

One thing I can't be convinced of is that Haley Barbour saw the light and realized that southern justice isn't always fair, and decided to intervene personally to fix four miscarriages of justice. This is one of the people who revel in "southern justice."

Funny to see all of the soft on crime Fark Liberals twisting into knots in order to somehow be against clemency for criminals who have 'done their time'. I guess your ethics about prisoners only go as far as the government in power, eh? If it were Democrat pardons you would be cheering them.

Well, temporarily enjoined the pardons.

BalugaJoe: They should be forced to live with the Gov forever.

I think that would fall under cruel and unusual punishment.

Shaggy_C: Funny to see all of the soft on crime Fark Liberals twisting into knots in order to somehow be against clemency for criminals who have 'done their time'. I guess your ethics about prisoners only go as far as the government in power, eh? If it were Democrat pardons you would be cheering them.

Yes, citing the section of the State Constitution that the Governor clearly violated is "twisting in knots". Excellent analysis.