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(Gigwise)   "Doubts Raised Over The Future Of Guitar Music." Raised by whom? Yanni? Zamfir, master of the pan flute?   (gigwise.com) divider line 108
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2012-01-11 09:27:18 PM  
Say what you will about Zamfir, submitter, but his version of The Lonely Shepherd (new window) is hauntingly beautiful, not to mention it was used as part of the soundtrack of "Kill Bill".

Quentin Tarantino always picks the best music for his movies.
 
2012-01-11 09:33:45 PM  
I am an executive with Decca Records and I would like to subscribe to this Zamfir character's newsletter.
 
2012-01-11 09:34:01 PM  
This is a repeat from 1980 (synthesizers), 1990 (techno/house), and 2000 (hip-hop).
 
2012-01-11 09:57:25 PM  
Zamfir may be the most overlooked artist of all time. He is the Clapton of the pan flute
 
2012-01-11 10:02:11 PM  

Rapmaster2000: This is a repeat from 1980 (synthesizers), 1990 (techno/house), and 2000 (hip-hop).


and 1976(disco), 2006(pro-tools, autotune) etc.
 
2012-01-11 10:08:48 PM  
The guitar-rock community in my town has been dying for the last two years. Hopefully it's cyclical, but I'm just not seeing the interest from the really young kids (8-12) who, in the past, comprised the bulk of our lessons programs.
 
2012-01-11 10:20:32 PM  
"In recent weeks a number of musicians including Kasabian and Noel Gallagher have spoken about the lack of rock n' roll bands in today's charts"

It's cyclical, just like the 70s when disco reared it's ugly head.
There were a few flash in the pan pop artists that were supposedly the next big thing.

Hip hop is just disco minus the melody and the musicians.
 
2012-01-11 10:37:46 PM  

b2theory: Clapton of the pan flute


Brain...having trouble...understanding...
 
2012-01-11 11:44:40 PM  

dugitman: Rapmaster2000: This is a repeat from 1980 (synthesizers), 1990 (techno/house), and 2000 (hip-hop).

and 1976(disco), 2006(pro-tools, autotune) etc.


And 1962.

"Guitar groups are on the way out, Mr. Epstein."
 
2012-01-11 11:48:33 PM  
Guitarists raise doubts about the future of record company executives.
 
2012-01-11 11:50:01 PM  
metal is alive and well
 
2012-01-11 11:58:49 PM  
1955 called, and wants it's prediction of guitar music dying out back. As long as young women want to sleep with young guitar players, and they do, guitar players will continue to exist. /guitar player/
 
2012-01-11 11:59:31 PM  
Died in 2012? It died in the early 90s. "Guitar" bands these days are usually more about counterculture or hipdom than anything musical. Not sure about where everyone else lives, but live rock music around PDX just plain sucks. Seldom do bands have any real musical abilities. Drummers who can't keep time, guitarists who can't do anything other than 16th note riffs, and vocalists who scream.

falcon176 said it - Metal is alive and well, and about the only genre of music that has a much higher degree of actual musicianship.
 
2012-01-12 12:15:22 AM  
While I think this is silly, corporations are trying to create a mass market monoculture of unhumans so I wouldn't put it past them for accidentally creating an majority that listens to computer generated Un Tis Un Tis Un Tis Un Tis all day.
 
2012-01-12 12:25:37 AM  
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2012-01-12 12:38:02 AM  
FishyFred

Yes Decca screwed up. If they did sign The Beatles, their sound would be different because of no George Martin.
 
2012-01-12 12:53:18 AM  

DreamyAltarBoy: Guitarists raise doubts about the future of record company executives.


Yup, we're done here. Good Night.
 
2012-01-12 12:56:49 AM  

wiseolddude: FishyFred

Yes Decca screwed up. If they did sign The Beatles, their sound would be different because of no George Martin.


Someone just e-mailed me because they didn't get the joke and asked me to listen to their band's demo.
 
2012-01-12 01:20:07 AM  
oi44.tinypic.com

Let's see if I can't put this into terms you'll understand. Say you had 12 beer...
 
2012-01-12 01:31:11 AM  
I'd rather be master of the PAN TUBA


nyc3img.soundclick.com


/oh wait, I am.
 
2012-01-12 02:23:36 AM  
Jealous bagpipers?
 
2012-01-12 02:28:53 AM  
Guitar music isn't going anywhere. Rock is probably dead though. There are so many possibilities for electric guitar. It's such a versatile instrument, and rock does not even begin to scratch the surface of what can be done with it.
 
2012-01-12 02:31:12 AM  

neilbradley: Not sure about where everyone else lives, but live rock music around PDX just plain sucks.


Probably can't hear it over all the shilling and dentistry equipment.
 
2012-01-12 03:08:01 AM  

Phil Moskowitz: While I think this is silly, corporations are trying to create a mass market monoculture of unhumans so I wouldn't put it past them for accidentally creating an majority that listens to computer generated Un Tis Un Tis Un Tis Un Tis all day.


I'd be less worried about electronica/techno/house/etc than mainstream dancefloor music in this regard.
 
2012-01-12 03:35:39 AM  

neilbradley: Died in 2012? It died in the early 90s. "Guitar" bands these days are usually more about counterculture or hipdom than anything musical. Not sure about where everyone else lives, but live rock music around PDX just plain sucks. Seldom do bands have any real musical abilities. Drummers who can't keep time, guitarists who can't do anything other than 16th note riffs, and vocalists who scream.

falcon176 said it - Metal is alive and well, and about the only genre of music that has a much higher degree of actual musicianship.


do you want to listen to guitar solos or songs?
 
2012-01-12 03:44:12 AM  
As long as the Japanese keep making Dynasty Warriors video games, good ol' rock will always have a place of its own.
(Yes, this really was made in 2011)

I would mention Ace Combat, but they follow the trends so closely that I'm more than sure the next game will have an all-dubstep soundtrack. They nailed the "Top Gun" aesthetic but once, and then never again.
 
2012-01-12 04:56:39 AM  
I see this as a good thing. An interlude of lowered interest in guitar music coupled with a dodgy economy means prices for awesome old guitars will plummet. Theoretically, anyway. And while I don't need any more guitars, I could be tempted in such a circumstance.
 
2012-01-12 05:24:15 AM  
www2.sk-static.com
 
2012-01-12 05:35:07 AM  

dugitman: Rapmaster2000: This is a repeat from 1980 (synthesizers), 1990 (techno/house), and 2000 (hip-hop).

and 1976(disco), 2006(pro-tools, autotune) etc.


and 1966(guitar effects)
 
2012-01-12 06:07:08 AM  
this is 100% the fault of darky in office
 
2012-01-12 06:39:16 AM  

DrBenway: I see this as a good thing. An interlude of lowered interest in guitar music coupled with a dodgy economy means prices for awesome old guitars will plummet. Theoretically, anyway. And while I don't need any more guitars, I could be tempted in such a circumstance.


It's been a buyers market for a while. If it becomes more so, I will need new and creative ways to justify my acquisitions to my wife.
 
2012-01-12 07:02:59 AM  

H31N0US: DrBenway: I see this as a good thing. An interlude of lowered interest in guitar music coupled with a dodgy economy means prices for awesome old guitars will plummet. Theoretically, anyway. And while I don't need any more guitars, I could be tempted in such a circumstance.

It's been a buyers market for a while. If it becomes more so, I will need new and creative ways to justify my acquisitions to my wife.


Arbitration!

Really, the only thing I might look for is a hollow body better than what I have. Picked up an Epiphone ES-295 a few years back and it's been something of a disappointment -- I've never really bonded with it. Beyond that, it would just be something lucky out of the blue. Like a nice old Guild 12-string, for instance. Or a Gretsch. I don't have a Gretsch and as I see it, that's just wrong.
 
2012-01-12 07:18:31 AM  
Someone already made a Decca Records joke, so I've got nothing to add.
 
2012-01-12 07:22:24 AM  
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-01-12 07:43:49 AM  
I'm a lifelong guitar nerd and HUGE metalhead; up until recently heavily involved in my city's music scene. Metal is alive and well, and I have never in my life seen as many young kids eager to shred as I do now. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's because gear is cheaper and more easily available now. You can go to any Guitar Center and come out with a playable guitar and a little practice amp for under $400. The point is, there is a whole new generation of young-ass kids that really want to play their guitars and putting in the time and effort to get good at it. It's incredible.
 
2012-01-12 07:56:03 AM  
Who else read that as "Donuts Raised Over the Future of Guitar Music?" It made me think that there was some sort of glorious telethon going on.
 
2012-01-12 07:58:59 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Say what you will about Zamfir, submitter, but his version of The Lonely Shepherd (new window) is hauntingly beautiful, not to mention it was used as part of the soundtrack of "Kill Bill".

Quentin Tarantino always picks the best music for his movies.


And contains, at least... 3 guitar tracks that I can hear....
 
2012-01-12 07:59:40 AM  
My 16 year old son told me yesterday that he's getting tired of all of the d-bags (his word) at school walking around trying to play guitar. His best friend is an amazing classical player and I told him he's spoiled by having a friend, and a dad, who can actually play. He smirked as only a 16 yr. old goth kid can and went back to listening to Cradle of Filth.

One thing I've noticed about he and his friends are that they don't have a musical identity of their own, for the most part they all like and listen to music from before they were born. Every once in a while I'll hear them listening to something I haven't heard before and I'll inquire. I was really hoping that they would be a new source of music to listen to. I guess they're still a little too young.
 
2012-01-12 08:21:29 AM  
Right.......


......just like orchestral strings (which have been around for a couple of centuries)...........

It may cease to be the focus of the music (hence "guitar music") but it will always be used in various new developments and new ways. Musicians have a penchant for incorporating instruments (random sounds, effects and samples) they percevce as foreign to their music (IMO as an attempt to sounds different). This has the effect of reviving sounds perceived as "old" often in a new way.

Sounds like music as usual to me..................

/phases, cycles, how DO they work?
 
2012-01-12 08:29:34 AM  
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2012-01-12 08:29:46 AM  

stupiddream: One thing I've noticed about he and his friends are that they don't have a musical identity of their own, for the most part they all like and listen to music from before they were born. Every once in a while I'll hear them listening to something I haven't heard before and I'll inquire. I was really hoping that they would be a new source of music to listen to. I guess they're still a little too young.


Eh, I spent my high school years listening to mostly music from before I was born - Pink Floyd, Rush, The Beatles, etc. with a smattering of contemporary bands.

It wasn't until I got to college that I really noticed how much good new music was coming out.
 
2012-01-12 08:32:07 AM  
Accordian and banjo bands will be the new big thing.
 
2012-01-12 08:34:04 AM  

Strik3r: It may cease to be the focus of the music (hence "guitar music") but it will always be used in various new developments and new ways. Musicians have a penchant for incorporating instruments (random sounds, effects and samples) they percevce as foreign to their music (IMO as an attempt to sounds different). This has the effect of reviving sounds perceived as "old" often in a new way.

Sounds like music as usual to me..................

/phases, cycles, how DO they work?


If the guitar is going to fade and die, it's going to fade and die. Miles didn't blow the Krumhorn in Kind of Blue and Hendrix didn't shred the Anthem at Woodstock with a shepherd's lyre.
 
2012-01-12 08:34:46 AM  

hbk72777: [img600.imageshack.us image 493x341]


Holy cow! Is that Zappa's long lost brother?
 
2012-01-12 08:35:44 AM  

IoSaturnalia: Hendrix didn't shred the Anthem at Woodstock with a shepherd's lyre.


But how awesome would that have been!
 
2012-01-12 08:46:16 AM  
Raised by whom? Yanni? Zamfir, master of the pan flute?

Well, by me, in multiple Fark threads.

Sure, go to any big box guitar store and you'll see some high school kids in there -- including my son -- but 'guitar rock' is kind of an old white man's thing, mostly.
 
2012-01-12 08:47:19 AM  

IoSaturnalia:
If the guitar is going to fade and die, it's going to fade and die. Miles didn't blow the Krumhorn in Kind of Blue and Hendrix didn't shred the Anthem at Woodstock with a shepherd's lyre.


If you say so, it MUST be true.


....and the piano is dead
..... and the accordian is dead unless you like cajun
....... and no one uses HORNS anymore, I mean they've ben around forever!

There is an expressability in strings that cannot be duplicated in any other musical class. Guitars are unique and different from classical stringed instruments in their expreassability. I don't see their nich ever being completely removed or replaced. Sure new instruments and style will come, but I don't think we'll ever see anything eliminate guitar from music completely.

But if it helps you sleep at night, take comfort in your ignorance.
 
2012-01-12 08:54:52 AM  
Buckwheat Zydeco is going to come back with a vengeance.

Then Krush Groove will be remade in 3D IMAX.
 
2012-01-12 08:57:15 AM  

moothemagiccow: neilbradley: Died in 2012? It died in the early 90s. "Guitar" bands these days are usually more about counterculture or hipdom than anything musical. Not sure about where everyone else lives, but live rock music around PDX just plain sucks. Seldom do bands have any real musical abilities. Drummers who can't keep time, guitarists who can't do anything other than 16th note riffs, and vocalists who scream.

falcon176 said it - Metal is alive and well, and about the only genre of music that has a much higher degree of actual musicianship.

do you want to listen to guitar solos or songs?


I think you are looking for the Lady Gaga thread. It's the one right below this one.
 
2012-01-12 09:00:27 AM  

Strik3r: If you say so, it MUST be true. ... But if it helps you sleep at night, take comfort in your ignorance.


LOL - I'm ignorant for pointing out that musical instrument styles have changed in the last 1000 years. It looks like you saved up that rant for subby and then unloaded it on me without actually reading my post.

And it is spelled is 'niche'.
 
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