"It's one of the first, all-black action pictures ever made."

OMG... the Star Wars recuts, this line... suddenly it all makes sense.

George Lucas is trying to eradicate the '70s.

I'm always surprised how damn brave those guys were (not disparaging other soldiers, just remarking on a fact). Racism was alive and well in America at the time (and still is). They're hated for the most part, and probably regarded as lesser Americans just because they were black. Yet. They chose to volunteer and put their lives on the line in defence of a country that showed little respect for them as people, or citizens. Amazing. Damn brave guys.

Meh, I'll stick with the HBO movie. Acting over CGI.

wee: I saw him on TDS. It was very awkward. Felt kinda bad for him, actually.

Although I've never quite managed to figure out what racial stereotype the Sandpeople were supposed to be. The Jawas were Mexican migrant workers, Episode 1 had the Asian Federation people and Step-n-fetchit Binks. The thing who owned Anakin was Jewish, I think. Hmmm, maybe the Sandpeople are supposed to Arabs?

Injuns maybe? Specifically the Western movie stereotypes that are just waiting for the settlers to let their guard down so they can scalp the lot of them.

Cowritten by Aaron MacGruder, too.

Movie looks awesome.

As it has already been said twice on here, and ever since this stupid film was announced I have been thinking it.... "George, this movie isn't original, it has already been done before, and the other one didn't take 23 years to make, fark-o".

//but nice starring role casting choices - one black dude at the utter bottom of his meteoric fall and the other one well on his way there

Vodka Zombie: FTFA: "It's one of the first, all-black action pictures ever made."

Whatever you say, George (new window).

They were our country's best defense... and it's greatest glory.

That doesn't make sense on so many levels.

Wow, just realized Cuba was in the other movie too.

Cuba Gooding Jr. - Disgraced Academy Award Winner, but Born to Play a Black WWII Pilot.™

Errrrr......no.

Miracle at St. Anna is farking terrible, though.

The Tuskagee Airmen is a good flick and I'd recommend it renting that instead of giving Lucas more cash to redo Star Wars again at some point.

The dubstep trailer really tied the movie together, did it not?

Is there a black Porkins?

/stay on target

kronicfeld: I was about to reference Action Jackson, but then I remembered it's just Apollo Creed beating up a bunch of honkies.

And the wonderful 80s tits of both Vanity and Sharon Stone. I own the DVD with pride.

/now you pissed me off!

blackminded: kronicfeld: I was about to reference Action Jackson, but then I remembered it's just Apollo Creed beating up a bunch of honkies.

And the wonderful 80s tits of both Vanity and Sharon Stone. I own the DVD with pride.

/now you pissed me off!

Appolonia Kotero in Purple Rain.

"Tuskegee Airmen" was a good movie. But it wasn't great. There wasn't much action to it, and it was more about the struggle of the pilots before they got into combat. This is a different approach that makes the movie more action filled. That being said, both movies have Cuba Gooding Jr. in them, and I can't wait to see this one.

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Dolemite wants a word, Mr. Lucas...

Did Lucas direct? No
Did Lucas write the screenplay? No

Hey, this has a chance of being good.

Actually, Lucas did direct some reshoots due to the director being unavailable but all of the footage was then approved by the director.

Hate to dig this up, but I've heard it said that the decision to draft James Earl Jones as the voice of Vader (after the movie had been shot using the actual actor's voice was due to a perceived lack of acceptance in the US for a movie that was entirely white. So it's not as if Lucas is unfamiliar with racial issues and the silver screen.

/This anecdote was told to me by David Prowse.

Mugato: None of that stopped everyone from blaming Lucas for Indy 4.

Lucas was heavily to blame for Indy 4. He's the one who wanted the Alien plot and refused another script that both Spielberg and Ford thought was great. Basically Lucas kept throwing tantrums until he got his way. Also, he wrote the story.

All iconic motion pictures of the last 40 years must be re-made "in black".

That being said, I guess the 1st one wasn't black enough. I loved it.

How much anybody wanna bet they find a way to weasel some hip hop into this movie?

Meh.

All the ads keep screaming is DUBSTEP CGI AW HELL NO WHOOO I'MA FIRING MY LAZER

The dogfights look fake, the whole thing looks like a videogame, and I'm going to say no to Lucas yet again. Looks about as grounded in reality as CGI Vines.

/Seriously dubstep WWII fighter movie??
//and I *like* dubstep
///Just like techno, 99% of it sucks balls, it's that rare 1% that owns

wee: I saw him on TDS. It was very awkward. Felt kinda bad for him, actually.

Although I've never quite managed to figure out what racial stereotype the Sandpeople were supposed to be. The Jawas were Mexican migrant workers, Episode 1 had the Asian Federation people and Step-n-fetchit Binks. The thing who owned Anakin was Jewish, I think. Hmmm, maybe the Sandpeople are supposed to Arabs?

whoa, you have some serious racist problems.

Mugato: The majority of the complaints about Indy 4 weren't about the story. Indy finding aliens is no more stupid than any of his other exploits. It was about all the CGI monkeys, the refrigerator thing, Shia LeBoef and the general direction, all of which belonged to Spielberg. The director is ultimately responsible for what's on the screen. But everyone blames Lucas. Not that he isn't a prick and some of his shiat is stupid but he didn't create the movie himself.

You need to watch this (new window)

GoodyearPimp: Hate to dig this up, but I've heard it said that the decision to draft James Earl Jones as the voice of Vader (after the movie had been shot using the actual actor's voice was due to a perceived lack of acceptance in the US for a movie that was entirely white. So it's not as if Lucas is unfamiliar with racial issues and the silver screen.

/This anecdote was told to me by David Prowse.


Obviously, he told you through email. If you've actually heard his voice then you'd know what he's saying is total shiat.

Mugato: I realize this. Whether or not Spielberg agreed with the concept has nothing to do with how he directed the final film.

You say that as if Spielberg had final say in anything connected to Indy 4. The video I posted as well as a lot of other sources prove that to be false. Almost everything about the final product was the way it was because that's how Lucas wanted it.

"If you don't watch my movie, you are a racist"

9beers: You need to watch this (new window)

Well that set off my nerd rage.

wee: Hmmm, maybe the Sandpeople are supposed to Arabs?

If you've played KOTOR, it seems like that's the case. They've got lots of nonsensical tribal and religious rules, the violation of which gets you the death penalty; I always ended up slaughtering the lot of them out of sheer annoyance at their b-ass-ackwards culture.

Spielberg definitely farked up AI: Artificial Intelligence.

If you really want to get in depth with just how controlling Lucas was with everything about Indy 4, watch the hour long review from Red Letter Media. It's also pretty damn funny to boot. Link (new window)

Come on now, he didn't say "the first, all-black action picture ever made".

Whomever wrote the script for this should be beaten within an inch of their life with the butt end of an M2 Browning. The Tuskegee Airmen were damn good, and their story is inspiring and exciting enough without having to fluff it up at the expense both of what the real men accomplished, and the contributions of the other thousands of Allied aircrew in the Med. But apparently being able to translate real-life events into an exciting movie is a skillset which simply doesn't exist out in Hollywood. Add to that the 5,000 mph Mustangs and P-40s, and flight dynamics taken straight from a TIE Fighter, and you have a recipe for a facepalm of the highest order.

And that's a damned shame, because the story is worth telling. Too bad Lucas made a conscious decision not to do it right.