No surprise there.

No problem. We simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.

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That's the scary part. Nature has figured out how to censor the Web!

Pretty sneaky, hiss...

Evil geckos!

"God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man, man destroys God, man creates dinosaurs."

"Dinosaurs... eat man. Woman inherits the Earth."

/favorite exchange in the movie

Khellendros: "God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man, man destroys God, man creates dinosaurs."

"Dinosaurs... eat man. Woman inherits the Earth unable to procreate. Woman vanishes in a puff of hubris."

I for one welcome our new lizard overlords...

Khellendros: "God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man, man destroys God, man creates dinosaurs."

"Dinosaurs... eat man. Woman inherits the Earth."

/favorite exchange in the movie

The snappy comeback to that would have been "Until they all die from old age, and an inability to reproduce".

All hail our new lizard over(under?)lords!

Somebody mention lizard people"

Several conspiracy theories state that a race of Lizard People or Reptiles lives beneath Earth's surface. In California their underground bases are rumored to be about 2000 feet beneath Los Angeles and Mount Shasta. They are also rumored to have connections and dealings with the military thus their underground tunnels also reach several military bases including Vandenberg AFB.

Much of Lizard People legend comes from a 1933 or 1934 incident involving a mining engineer named G. Warren Shufelt. In the thirties, Shufelt began digging a shaft down to the Lizard People's subterranean catacombs supposedly filled with gold and knowledge. Apparently Shufelt built some sort of radio x-ray device used to detect minerals from which he was able to map out the strange tunnels below LA. His findings were further expanded upon by Little Chief Greenleaf of the Hopi Indians. According to Indian legend, the tunnels were built over 5000 years ago with powerful chemicals. Little Chief Greenleaf also reported that the Lizard people were scientifically advanced compared to us, knew the history of the earth since its creation, and had discovered ways to predict earthquakes. Greenleaf also reported that he himself could predict earthquakes at least 96 hours in advance. Oh, and naturally the history of the earth was written down on gold tablets.

Ironically the LA Times reported much of this information on the front page of their newspaper on January 29, 1934. Shufelt's shaft was dug about 250 feet down into the earth before the project was somehow canceled and the hole filled in. The location of the shaft was 518 Hill Street. Shufelt's project was canceled on March 5th, 1934. The original contract stated that Shufelt and his people were to look for buried treasure, assume all costs, leave the site the way they found it, and pay the city fifty percent of any treasure they found. No treasure was ever turned over to the city.

Shufelt's radio x-ray device worked on the principal that all matter had its own unique radio frequency and that by tuning into that frequency, more of the same matter could be found. For example take say, some gold, place it in his device, and it should allow the user to point to more gold. Also take a hair from a subject, the device should point to the original subject. Shufelt was using the device when he discovered the caves. The caves of the Lizard People apparently go from LA to Pasadena with other tunnels branching off (presumably to other lizard people cities).

It is interesting to note, that Shufelt's wonderful invention has never been mass produced despite all the practical uses of such a device. It is also interesting to note that Greenleaf's method of detecting earthquakes has also not seen widespread use either.

Source: Weird California Link (new window)

Something I found following up on Goggle Maps Link (new window)

theorellior: Dinobot: dittybopper: Khellendros: "God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man, man destroys God, man creates dinosaurs."

"Dinosaurs... eat man. Woman inherits the Earth."

/favorite exchange in the movie

The snappy comeback to that would have been "Until they all die from old age, and an inability to reproduce".

Unless they have frog dna in them.

Nature finds a way.

Well, it certainly found a way for raptors to breed wild in the park, unknown to those running it. You know those hatched eggs Dr. Grant finds, along with the little tracks that lead away from them? Those tracks are two-toed. That makes them dromeosaurs of some type, and the only dromeosaurs mentioned in the film are the velociraptors. In fact, those tiny tracks appear to be identical in every way except size to the ones left by the escaped velociraptors.

Conclusion: There were more than 3 raptors loose in the park.

Maybe pbf is correct twice for this.

Just look at the old ladies in Florida. *Thwap!*

dittybopper: theorellior: Dinobot: dittybopper: Khellendros: "God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man, man destroys God, man creates dinosaurs."

"Dinosaurs... eat man. Woman inherits the Earth."

/favorite exchange in the movie

The snappy comeback to that would have been "Until they all die from old age, and an inability to reproduce".

Unless they have frog dna in them.

Nature finds a way.

Well, it certainly found a way for raptors to breed wild in the park, unknown to those running it. You know those hatched eggs Dr. Grant finds, along with the little tracks that lead away from them? Those tracks are two-toed. That makes them dromeosaurs of some type, and the only dromeosaurs mentioned in the film are the velociraptors. In fact, those tiny tracks appear to be identical in every way except size to the ones left by the escaped velociraptors.

Conclusion: There were more than 3 raptors loose in the park.

They kept it very simple for the movie. In the book, 5 or 6 of the species were breeding, and the shortcuts used in the computer tracking system made it impossible to tell there more more than the expected number. And there weren't just three raptors free breeding in the park, there were two nests of them, each housing several families together. One visited nest had roughly 30 raptors. A fairly scary scene when they realized how many there were, and how they went undetected for so long. There were obvious signs (prey species dwindling on the island, for example), but they didn't investigate.

Dinobot: And Donald Gennaro was one of the main heroes in the book, and John Hammond was a freaking douchebag and died like the douchebag he was.

I wouldn't call Gennaro a hero. He was a sniveling coward who had flashes of courage at opportune times during the incident. But his final acts in the book were to get slammed around and verbally biatch slapped by Grant before being threatened with a oversized bang stick to get him to go down the hole into the nest. But I get your point. He certainly wasn't the joke from the movie.

And I loved the book version of Hammond. He was not the nice industrial philanthropist, he was the younger version of H.R. Hadden from "Contact" - cruel, opportunistic, and downright evil in his arrogance. His end was fitting.

Nedry, however, was spot-the-fark on in both versions. Loved the way they did that one.

Khellendros: Dinobot: And Donald Gennaro was one of the main heroes in the book, and John Hammond was a freaking douchebag and died like the douchebag he was.

I wouldn't call Gennaro a hero. He was a sniveling coward who had flashes of courage at opportune times during the incident. But his final acts in the book were to get slammed around and verbally biatch slapped by Grant before being threatened with a oversized bang stick to get him to go down the hole into the nest. But I get your point. He certainly wasn't the joke from the movie.

I'd lean more towards realistic than sniveling coward. After learning about what happened to so many others, and the way Wu got it, I challenge you to voluntarily dive into a hole with the only certainty in your destination being a pack of Velociraptors.

Still though, he WAS a lawyer.

Dinobot: Now that I think about it, you're right, but yeah, he was certainly more useful... and Muldoon survived too, if I recall.

Main difference between the JP novels and movies: Guns work in the novels.

dittybopper: Dinobot: Now that I think about it, you're right, but yeah, he was certainly more useful... and Muldoon survived too, if I recall.

Main difference between the JP novels and movies: Guns work in the novels.

"Guns" aren't really used in the first book at all. Tranquilizer canisters in one chapgter and a few RPG rounds were fired by Muldoon at the end against a pack of raptors, but that's about it. No one else was armed.

Were they used more in The Lost World? Never read that one.

Khellendros: "God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man, man destroys God, man creates dinosaurs."

"Dinosaurs... eat man. Woman inherits the Earth."

/favorite exchange in the movie

That's your favourite exchange? The cheesy forced-feminazi bullshiat was your favourite exchange?
I always felt that it stuck out like a sore thumb. There were far far more interesting and deeper things going on than some shallow symantic play on words.

sure haven't: Khellendros: "God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man, man destroys God, man creates dinosaurs."

"Dinosaurs... eat man. Woman inherits the Earth."

/favorite exchange in the movie

That's your favourite exchange? The cheesy forced-feminazi bullshiat was your favourite exchange?
I always felt that it stuck out like a sore thumb. There were far far more interesting and deeper things going on than some shallow symantic play on words.


That is one big pile of shiat.

Lego_Addict: Coelacanth: Somebody mention lizard people"

Something I found following up on Goggle Maps Link (new window)

What exactly did you find?

A big fat jewelry company sitting on top of a shaft supposedly going down to tunnels where the inhabitants write on gold tablets.

Khellendros: dittybopper: Dinobot: Now that I think about it, you're right, but yeah, he was certainly more useful... and Muldoon survived too, if I recall.

Main difference between the JP novels and movies: Guns work in the novels.

"Guns" aren't really used in the first book at all. Tranquilizer canisters in one chapgter and a few RPG rounds were fired by Muldoon at the end against a pack of raptors, but that's about it. No one else was armed.

Were they used more in The Lost World? Never read that one.

As I recall, yes.

In the movies, all of them, not a *SINGLE* dinosaur is killed or stopped by a non-tranq gun

sure haven't: Khellendros: "God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man, man destroys God, man creates dinosaurs."

"Dinosaurs... eat man. Woman inherits the Earth."

/favorite exchange in the movie

That's your favourite exchange? The cheesy forced-feminazi bullshiat was your favourite exchange?
I always felt that it stuck out like a sore thumb. There were far far more interesting and deeper things going on than some shallow symantic play on words.

If you think that exchange was "forced-feminazi bullshiat", you should really consider how raw your nerve endings are. It was joking banter between PhD academics, and fairly funny banter at that.

Another dimension to the character that's only shown in a weak light in the movie - Sattler is often judged incorrectly both before and after she's been introduced face-to-face. Most people assume she's a man, and are surprised when the meet a very attractive woman with a doctorate in a male dominated field. It's clear she's dealt with chauvinistic behavior throughout her career, and she pokes fun from time to time. Malcolm spends a great deal of time hitting on her, and she takes this opportunity to poke fun back at him. If that qualifies as "feminazi bullshiat", the problem is you, not the banter.

They should have used Plexiglas in the movie. Problem solved.

Idiots.