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Sybarite

2012-01-11 09:27:22 AM

Lot of trouble to go to. Why not fake an illness like everyone else?

stpauler

2012-01-11 09:41:52 AM

Old school email:

Dear School:
Please eckuse John being absent on Jan. 28, 29, 30, 31, 32,
and also 33.

Please excuse Gloria from Jim today. She is administrating.

Pleazse excuse Roland from P.E. for a few day. Yesterday he fell out of
a tree and misplaced his hip.

John has been absent because he had two teeth taken off his face.

Carlos was absent yesterday because he was playing football. He was
hurt in the growing part.

Mary could not come to school because she has been bothered by very
close veins.

Chris will not be in school cus he has an acre in his side.

Please excuse Ray Friday from school. He has very loose vowels.

Please excuse pedro from being absent yesterday. He had (several
mispellings of diarrhea crossed out) the shiats.

Please excuse Tom for being absent yesterday. He had diarrhea and his
boots leak.

Irving was absent this morning because he missed his bust.

Please excuse Jimmy for being. It was his father's fault.

I kept Billie home because she had to go Christmas shopping because
I don't know what size she wear.

Please excuse Harriet for missing school yesterday. We forget to
get the Sunday paper off the porch. and when we found it Monday,
we thought it was Sunday.

Please excuse my son's tardiness. I forgot to wake him up and I did not
find him till I started making the beds.

Sally won't be in school a week from Friday. We have to attend a
funeral.

My daughter was absent yesterday because she was tired. She spent the
weekend with the Marine's.

Please excuse Mary from being absent yesterday. She was in bed with
gramps.

Gloria was absent yesterday as she was having a gangover.

Please excuse Burma, she had been sick and under the doctor.

Maryann was absent December 11-16, because she had a fever, sore throat,
headache, and upset stomach. Her sister was also sick, fever and sore
throat, her brother had a low grade fever and ached all over. I wasn't
the berst either, sore throat and fever. There must be the flu going
around school, her father even got hot last night.

brigid_fitch

2012-01-11 10:15:50 AM

Sybarite: Lot of trouble to go to. Why not fake an illness like everyone else?

Because sick pay is deducted from a teacher's allotted days off. I don't know if it's still the case but years ago, you could save up all your vacation & sick days & they'd be added to your pension. Jury duty is a freebie.

brigid_fitch

2012-01-11 10:25:38 AM

stpauler: Old school email:

I was an honor student throughout school and my father was always aggravated that he'd have to write a letter to explain the few times I was out. So, he'd either write the most sarcastic notes or just make up wild shiat. I remember a couple:

"Please excuse Brigid from being out yesterday, as she was absent."

"Please excuse Brigid's recent absence. She was abducted by a UFO and it took us some time to contact NASA to mediate the negotiations for her return."

"Please excuse Brigid's absence yesterday. She didn't finish her chores so I had to tie her to whipping post until she learned her lesson."

And, finally, the one he used throughout my senior year of HS:

"Please excuse (circle one) [Brigid, Patrick, Richard, Marie, Alex] from (circle all that apply) [school, gym, sports practice, meeting with principal, math class (because math is the Devil's tool)].

/Dad was a piece of work
//They never accepted my skipping math class, though.

Raug the Dwarf

2012-01-11 11:07:28 AM

How often can they call you in for Jury Duty? I swear, my morning guy has claimed he's had jury duty 3 times in the last 6 months. I'm one more minor infraction away from making the lazy bastard bring in the letters to prove it.

DrewCurtisJr

2012-01-11 11:09:35 AM

"She wan't very good at being creative,"

dittybopper

2012-01-11 11:09:46 AM

The thing that tipped the principal off wasn't the spelling or calendar errors, it was the signature at the end. The notice was signed "Epstein's Mother".

Keigh

2012-01-11 11:11:17 AM

she's a teacher at high school for Graphic communications art?

something something quality of teaching...
something something sounds like a student did the actual dirty work.

AngryPanda

2012-01-11 11:11:20 AM

careless lisper

2012-01-11 11:11:33 AM

But can I miss work due to Call of Duty?

SomethingWitty84

2012-01-11 11:13:16 AM

"They say forgery? It's not true. Hello. I have to shut the door," she said.

Sounds stable.

grokca

2012-01-11 11:15:50 AM

When I started highschool, I got my friend to write my notes. This way the only signature they had on file was his.
Came and went as I pleased.

HopScotchNSoda

2012-01-11 11:17:39 AM

AngryPanda: Raug the Dwarf: How often can they call you in for Jury Duty? I swear, my morning guy has claimed he's had jury duty 3 times in the last 6 months. I'm one more minor infraction away from making the lazy bastard bring in the letters to prove it.

Once every three years, and if you serve, they can't call you for four.

Not in Illinois. Here it's one time per year, whether you serve or not. (Not that people actually get called more than once every many, many years - it's just legal if they do).

steve42

2012-01-11 11:19:39 AM

AngryPanda: Raug the Dwarf: How often can they call you in for Jury Duty? I swear, my morning guy has claimed he's had jury duty 3 times in the last 6 months. I'm one more minor infraction away from making the lazy bastard bring in the letters to prove it.

Once every three years, and if you serve, they can't call you for four.

Varies from state to state... I've been called 5 times in ten years, but have never served.

kiwimoogle84

2012-01-11 11:19:58 AM

careless lisper: But can I miss work due to Call of Duty?

I approve.

G2V

2012-01-11 11:20:58 AM

AngryPanda: Raug the Dwarf: How often can they call you in for Jury Duty? I swear, my morning guy has claimed he's had jury duty 3 times in the last 6 months. I'm one more minor infraction away from making the lazy bastard bring in the letters to prove it.

Once every three years, and if you serve, they can't call you for four.

I assume it varies then? I was called for Jury duty twice, 13 months apart. Although I didn't serve the first time, as I got disqualified due to my bleeding heart liberal anti-cap punishment stance.

This was when I lived in Tallahassee, FL.

BarbadoSlim

2012-01-11 11:21:55 AM

Mona Lisa Tello

nuff' said.

Cheron

2012-01-11 11:22:17 AM

The High School of Graphic Communication Arts

I know what graphic images are - they're blocked at work- so what is Graphic Communication arts?

/Mona Lisa Vito looked better.

hbk72777

2012-01-11 11:27:32 AM

And people don't want teachers to have evaluations

Brother Head

2012-01-11 11:28:45 AM

HopScotchNSoda: AngryPanda: Raug the Dwarf: How often can they call you in for Jury Duty? I swear, my morning guy has claimed he's had jury duty 3 times in the last 6 months. I'm one more minor infraction away from making the lazy bastard bring in the letters to prove it.

Once every three years, and if you serve, they can't call you for four.

Not in Illinois. Here it's one time per year, whether you serve or not. (Not that people actually get called more than once every many, many years - it's just legal if they do).

If I'm not mistaken, it's the same here in California. If you go in, you're done for the year.

Forty-Two

2012-01-11 11:32:01 AM

Her comment about handwriting makes me suspect she doesn't have a firm grasp of what "forgery" means.

suburbanguy

2012-01-11 11:32:09 AM

Raug the Dwarf: How often can they call you in for Jury Duty? I swear, my morning guy has claimed he's had jury duty 3 times in the last 6 months. I'm one more minor infraction away from making the lazy bastard bring in the letters to prove it.

A quick google search says not more than once in 12 months in KS. You might want to call your local district courthouse and ask the clerk...

brigid_fitch

2012-01-11 11:34:21 AM

Brother Head: HopScotchNSoda: AngryPanda: Raug the Dwarf: How often can they call you in for Jury Duty? I swear, my morning guy has claimed he's had jury duty 3 times in the last 6 months. I'm one more minor infraction away from making the lazy bastard bring in the letters to prove it.

Once every three years, and if you serve, they can't call you for four.

Not in Illinois. Here it's one time per year, whether you serve or not. (Not that people actually get called more than once every many, many years - it's just legal if they do).

If I'm not mistaken, it's the same here in California. If you go in, you're done for the year.

In NJ, you can get called every 6 months. If you served within 6 months, they'll defer you for another 6 months if you send a letter & proof of prior service. That being said, I've lived in NJ for over 30 years and have only ever been summoned twice--first in 1988 (when I was a full-time student & didn't have to serve) and last November (where I goofed off in jury holding for 5 hours before being thanked for my service).

georgeyporgey

2012-01-11 11:40:22 AM

The Department of Education said Tello signed an agreement to pay a fine and resign. She has been a full-time teacher since 2003. Under the agreement, she will not lose her pension.

Am I the only pissed off at this ?

superfudge73

2012-01-11 11:43:21 AM

I just throw mine in the garbage. I've thrown about 7 away in the last ten years. One year they called me on it and I didn't return their call and nothing happened.

Cheron

2012-01-11 11:45:21 AM

suburbanguy: A quick google search says not more than once in 12 months in KS.

There seems to be a similar law in Connecticut just interpreted differently. My wife was called in May and again in October when she claimed an exemption they informed her "No more than once a year" means you don't have to serve twice in the same judicial calendar which cycles August 31.

Noobian Noob

2012-01-11 11:47:03 AM

in her defense, she probably doesnt speak english.

SweetSilverBlues

2012-01-11 11:48:59 AM

dittybopper: The thing that tipped the principal off wasn't the spelling or calendar errors, it was the signature at the end. The notice was signed "Epstein's Mother".

Argh. No votey on phones but this would be a +1 funnay!

Gunny Walker

2012-01-11 11:49:00 AM

If you're a NYC teacher trying to get time off by faking a jury duty note, it's probably a good idea to use a calendar and spell checker

What if you are a teacher in Schenectady?

Noobian Noob

2012-01-11 11:51:24 AM

Raug the Dwarf: How often can they call you in for Jury Duty? I swear, my morning guy has claimed he's had jury duty 3 times in the last 6 months. I'm one more minor infraction away from making the lazy bastard bring in the letters to prove it.

last time i went they said i woulndt be called again for 10 years (bronx, nyc). unless you live in a town of only 20 people, your morning guy is lying.

suburbanguy

2012-01-11 11:52:16 AM

superfudge73: I just throw mine in the garbage. I've thrown about 7 away in the last ten years. One year they called me on it and I didn't return their call and nothing happened.

That's funny until you get pulled over for speeding, and they arrest you for contempt of court for failing to appear if you were called for duty.

DrewCurtisJr

2012-01-11 11:52:47 AM

georgeyporgey: The Department of Education said Tello signed an agreement to pay a fine and resign. She has been a full-time teacher since 2003. Under the agreement, she will not lose her pension.

Am I the only pissed off at this ?

That she gets to keep her pension or that she gets a pension after 8-9 years?

chaddsfarkprefect

2012-01-11 11:53:48 AM

Did Subby miss a English class?

SlowTimedRapid

2012-01-11 11:55:05 AM

headline: it's probably a good idea to use a calendar and spell checker (emphasis added)

article: A closer look at the document revealed numerous errors. "Trail" was written instead of "trial," "sited" for "cited," and "manger" for "manager," officials said.

Umm, I think the problem may have been that she relied *excessively* on spell-check.

/ I have a spelling checker;
/ It came with my PC.
/ It clear lea shows fur my revue
/ Miss takes I can not sea.
/ I've run this poem threw it,
/ I'm sure your please too no;
/ Its letter-perfect inn it sway:
/ My chequer tolled me sew.

SlowTimedRapid

2012-01-11 11:57:28 AM

chaddsfarkprefect: Did Subby miss a English class? (emphasis added)

Perhaps (see my previous comment), but the odds are even greater that chaddsfarkprefect did.

/ far from "unpossible" (Ralph W.'s locution)

Yugoboy

2012-01-11 12:08:07 PM

DrewCurtisJr: That she gets to keep her pension or that she gets a pension after 8-9 years?

In NY, teachers become "vested" in the pension system after 5 years, but do not receive anything like full pension until X# of years and age X.
When they want to reduce costs and purge the old-timers, they offer a 25/55 plan (if you're at least 55 and have worked 25 years you get full pension). So, in a non-incentive year it's bound to be higher. When I'm 55, I'll be at 25 and if it's offered, I'm freakin' taking it!

The point is that even if she gets a pension (which she's earned and paid into) she won't receive a living wage from it, just some beer money.

As for keeping the full pension. Again, it ain't much, and it prevents lawsuits, appeals or arbitration. It's likely to be the cheaper way out.

offmymeds

2012-01-11 12:13:09 PM

Approves.

Raug the Dwarf

2012-01-11 12:15:37 PM

Just got off the phone with the courthouse. They said that once you're chosen as a sworn juror, they can't call you in for a year from that date. But if you've never actually served on a jury, they can call you in as many times as they want.

So, he's probably lying, but It doesn't look like I'm gonna bust him that way.

I've lived here for 11 years and I've been called in for jury duty twice. That fat bastard gets called in three or four times a year. Something just doesn't smell right.

Naeva

2012-01-11 12:30:47 PM

I'm 32 years old, have been registered to vote since I was 18, and have never been called.. is that odd?

ipxodi

2012-01-11 12:37:26 PM

Raug the Dwarf: How often can they call you in for Jury Duty? I swear, my morning guy has claimed he's had jury duty 3 times in the last 6 months. I'm one more minor infraction away from making the lazy bastard bring in the letters to prove it.

Also, Federal District and State (County) courts run on different schedules, and being called for one doesn't exempt you from being called for the other.
I've been called 5 times (3 for State, 2 for Federal). They like me. (or my SocSec#)
In some states you're "on call" for several weeks and have to call-in once a week to see if you've been selected to show up that week.
Also, serving in a Grand Jury is a 6 month service, IIRC.

Your employee has the opportunity to obtain some sort of proof, signed by the Jury Administrator or Clerk of the Court that he did, in fact, show up. You don't have to just take his word for it.

DrippinBalls

2012-01-11 12:42:05 PM

NYC teacher = union trash. Uneducated, a liar, a thug and useless/worthless.

Thank you very much!

HopScotchNSoda

2012-01-11 12:46:08 PM

Naeva: I'm 32 years old, have been registered to vote since I was 18, and have never been called.. is that odd?

Meh, I likewise have been registered to vote since 18 and licensed to drive since 17, and the only time I've been called was when I was 39 or 40.

ongbok

2012-01-11 01:04:59 PM

HopScotchNSoda: AngryPanda: Raug the Dwarf: How often can they call you in for Jury Duty? I swear, my morning guy has claimed he's had jury duty 3 times in the last 6 months. I'm one more minor infraction away from making the lazy bastard bring in the letters to prove it.

Once every three years, and if you serve, they can't call you for four.

Not in Illinois. Here it's one time per year, whether you serve or not. (Not that people actually get called more than once every many, many years - it's just legal if they do).

Back in either 2000 or 2001 I was summoned for jury duty 3 times in about a year and a half. I went the first two times and we were all dismissed early because we weren't needed. The third time I just sent the summons back and checked that I already had served. But since then I hadn't received another summons for jury duty until the other day.

MNT71

2012-01-11 01:07:14 PM

If someone pointed this out already, my bad...

Opening of article: "This is one teacher who is poised to learn a lesson in good spelling - and the law."

Later in the same article: "She wan't very good at being creative," Condon told Slattery. "The letter had wrong dates, wrong room number, wrong address, different words misspelled. She had not done any jury duty."

Looks like spelling is an issue for more than just the alleged perp in this case...

Bo Giggity

2012-01-11 02:47:18 PM

" Mona Lisa Tello, a teacher at The High School of Graphic Communication Arts in Manhattan, and apparent product of NYC public education, is accused of forging a jury duty notice."

DanZero

2012-01-11 03:01:26 PM

Gunny Walker: If you're a NYC teacher trying to get time off by faking a jury duty note, it's probably a good idea to use a calendar and spell checker

What if you are a teacher in Schenectady?

You better hope you don't get caught

http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/thumb/4/40/SchenectadyCrispies.PNG/180 p x-SchenectadyCrispies.PNG

DanZero

2012-01-11 03:02:09 PM

skrame

2012-01-11 03:48:12 PM

"Hello. I have to shut the door." - How I'll be answering the door from now on.

Big_Fat_Liar

2012-01-11 05:53:03 PM

Raug the Dwarf: How often can they call you in for Jury Duty? I swear, my morning guy has claimed he's had jury duty 3 times in the last 6 months. I'm one more minor infraction away from making the lazy bastard bring in the letters to prove it.

That guy has gotta be sharp as a marble if they accepted him 3 times. Does he have an opinion on anything?

lack of warmth

2012-01-11 06:26:50 PM

I got a warrant for failure to show up for jury duty once. The notice never showed up at my parents place(in SC), but they found out about the warrant a month or so later. I was no where near SC when they claimed I was suppose to show for jury duty. I had been in MI for months with my own place, MI DL and a job. My parents explained to them that I moved, but they won't listen. Oh well I have proof and don't miss that state anyway.

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