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2012-01-11 12:45:37 AM
Don't stop believ
 
2012-01-11 12:48:59 AM
Well that's just
 
2012-01-11 12:57:48 AM
I'm so happy, I'm not even going to bother playing alone with headline and just give the submitter a well-deserved +1.
 
2012-01-11 12:59:55 AM
Tony Sparano stole Candlejack's shtick.

/I mean, seriously, he can't come up w
 
2012-01-11 02:35:25 AM
He must know now to make a foot
 
2012-01-11 02:49:52 AM
I thought he died in the last episode.
 
2012-01-11 05:12:31 AM
cache.gawkerassets.com
 
2012-01-11 06:06:59 AM
I gotta say, I don't see this as a good move for the Jets, but I'm okay if they keep losing.
 
2012-01-11 06:55:35 AM
INeedAName: I gotta say, I don't see this as a good move for the Jets, but I'm okay if they keep losing. collapsing late in the season after bragging that they are the hottest thing since hot shiat

FTFY.

The tears and kvetching of Jets fans nurture me. Can't wait until the annual ritual: "with the 16th pick in the NFL Draft, the New York Jets select...from Vassar College..."
 
2012-01-11 07:00:26 AM
It took me a while to get this headline, but once I did, I thought it was
 
2012-01-11 07:03:57 AM
No offensive coordinator will do well as long as Sanchez is
 
2012-01-11 07:18:02 AM
becksellent: It took me a while to get this headline, but once I did, I thought it was

Oh, I see what he

(And not a single fark was given outside New Jersey... One-year gigs are awesome. The entire staff will probably be gone after next season)
 
2012-01-11 07:40:48 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-01-11 07:50:02 AM
I don't get the head
 
2012-01-11 07:55:02 AM
GimpyNip: Gulper Eel: INeedAName: I gotta say, I don't see this as a good move for the Jets, but I'm okay if they keep losing. collapsing late in the season after bragging that they are the hottest thing since hot shiat

FTFY.

The tears and kvetching of Jets fans nurture me. Can't wait until the annual ritual: "with the 16th pick in the NFL Draft, the New York Jets select...from Vassar College..."

You're a fool. A gigantic fool. Aside from Vernon Gholston the Jets haven't even made a bad draft pick since the show was broadcast in HD.


Mark Sanchez will soon break that streak
 
2012-01-11 08:00:20 AM
Andy Reid made the worst coordinator hiring of all time.

/All Time
//Didn't even know Sporano was an offensive coach.
 
2012-01-11 08:05:19 AM
As a Best England Patriots fan, I'm okay with this. The vortex of suck emitting from that stadiumless, plays-in-a-different-freaking-state, excuse for a franchise is music to my ears.

NY Jets, really? 9/11. Nuff said. Your team is cursed.
 
2012-01-11 08:06:34 AM
I knew something was afoot when
 
2012-01-11 08:16:53 AM
My only concern are the rumors of Brian Shottenheimer becoming head coach of the Raiders.

/it's hard to be a Raiders fan
 
2012-01-11 08:17:36 AM
*insert generic Sopranos refere
 
2012-01-11 08:17:48 AM
I love it when headlines make references to great
 
2012-01-11 08:21:40 AM
Thank god they got rid of Schottenfired.
 
2012-01-11 08:27:35 AM
I just pictured him driving through the tunnel in Jersey.

INeedAName: I gotta say, I don't see this as a good move for the Jets, but I'm okay if they keep losing.

I agree with both of these things.

/dolphins fan
 
2012-01-11 08:28:52 AM
Nogrhi: I thought he died in the last episode.

He did.

Anyone who thought he didn't is either in denial or simply wasn't paying attention. David Chase practically hit you over the head with it.
 
2012-01-11 08:41:23 AM
basemetal: My only concern are the rumors of Brian Shottenheimer becoming head coach of the Raiders.

WTF Indeed: Thank god they got rid of Schottenfired.

Doubt the Raiders, but you never know. If Al Davis was still alive, I'd say that job has Mike Martz written all over it.

Think more likely is Brian ending up in Tampa under Marty. Cheer up, Tampa fans. You'll still get to see interesting offense three times a year. (When the Panthers, Falcons, and Saints come to town.)
 
2012-01-11 08:43:55 AM
epic headline
 
2012-01-11 08:44:35 AM
GimpyNip: You're a fool. A gigantic fool. Aside from Vernon Gholston the Jets haven't even made a bad draft pick since the show was broadcast in HD.

mark sanchez
 
2012-01-11 08:48:29 AM
I think the kicker for the Jets just became the highest ranked kicker for fantasy football next year because that's all the scoring they'll be doing.

Offensive coordinator.....that's really funny.
 
2012-01-11 08:51:23 AM
Doc Daneeka: Nogrhi: I thought he died in the last episode.

He did.

Anyone who thought he didn't is either in denial or simply wasn't paying attention. David Chase practically hit you over the head with it.


Not to threadjack, but I've come to the conclusion that American entertainment feels that its viewers cannot deal with any ambiguity. I'm not a fan of The Sopranos (just not a mafia guy), but it was obvious to me that Tony was about to get whacked, and then some, but the outcry shows that a majority of the viewing audience just couldn't handle any sense of ambiguity. If Tony was going to be killed, they needed to see the guns, the bullets, and the blood. Think about all of the morons upset at the end of The Blair Witch Project who complained that they didn't even "get to see the witch!"

And compare the American and British versions of Life on Mars. The American one? A spaceship? SRSLY? Again, there's just no sense that American companies feel that Americans can handle an ambiguous ending, and a majority of the audience proves it every time. Hell, even Breaking Bad has eschewed ambiguity for the past few season endings.

And uh, to avoid the threadjack, Jets fans are like most Americans: they dislike ambiguity, so they go into the season with a health sense of FAIL.

/I've all but given up on American programming
 
2012-01-11 08:51:40 AM
*golf clap*
nice call, subby.
 
2012-01-11 08:55:47 AM
All he has to do is tell Sanchez to hand the ball off, sprinkle in a few play actions. Jets were built like the 49ers, possession game with a strong D, but they called plays like they were the patriots.
 
2012-01-11 08:57:22 AM
whizbangthedirtfarmer: Doc Daneeka: Nogrhi: I thought he died in the last episode.

He did.

Anyone who thought he didn't is either in denial or simply wasn't paying attention. David Chase practically hit you over the head with it.

Not to threadjack, but I've come to the conclusion that American entertainment feels that its viewers cannot deal with any ambiguity. I'm not a fan of The Sopranos (just not a mafia guy), but it was obvious to me that Tony was about to get whacked, and then some, but the outcry shows that a majority of the viewing audience just couldn't handle any sense of ambiguity. If Tony was going to be killed, they needed to see the guns, the bullets, and the blood. Think about all of the morons upset at the end of The Blair Witch Project who complained that they didn't even "get to see the witch!"

And compare the American and British versions of Life on Mars. The American one? A spaceship? SRSLY? Again, there's just no sense that American companies feel that Americans can handle an ambiguous ending, and a majority of the audience proves it every time. Hell, even Breaking Bad has eschewed ambiguity for the past few season endings.

And uh, to avoid the threadjack, Jets fans are like most Americans: they dislike ambiguity, so they go into the season with a health sense of FAIL.

/I've all but given up on American programming


Americans are stupid. We know.

As for Breaking Bad - what would you have done differently for the season finales? I'd like to hear other people's opinions too, because it's lauded as one of the best shows on TV.
 
2012-01-11 08:58:14 AM
4NSpy: All he has to do is tell Sanchez to hand the ball off, sprinkle in a few play actions. Jets were built like the 49ers, possession game with a strong D, but they called plays like they were the patriots.

The Jets have a RB like a healthy Frank Gore? That's news to everybody.
 
2012-01-11 09:04:55 AM
merkey88: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Doc Daneeka: Nogrhi: I thought he died in the last episode.

He did.

Anyone who thought he didn't is either in denial or simply wasn't paying attention. David Chase practically hit you over the head with it.

Not to threadjack, but I've come to the conclusion that American entertainment feels that its viewers cannot deal with any ambiguity. I'm not a fan of The Sopranos (just not a mafia guy), but it was obvious to me that Tony was about to get whacked, and then some, but the outcry shows that a majority of the viewing audience just couldn't handle any sense of ambiguity. If Tony was going to be killed, they needed to see the guns, the bullets, and the blood. Think about all of the morons upset at the end of The Blair Witch Project who complained that they didn't even "get to see the witch!"

And compare the American and British versions of Life on Mars. The American one? A spaceship? SRSLY? Again, there's just no sense that American companies feel that Americans can handle an ambiguous ending, and a majority of the audience proves it every time. Hell, even Breaking Bad has eschewed ambiguity for the past few season endings.

And uh, to avoid the threadjack, Jets fans are like most Americans: they dislike ambiguity, so they go into the season with a healthy sense of FAIL.

/I've all but given up on American programming

Americans are stupid. We know.

As for Breaking Bad - what would you have done differently for the season finales? I'd like to hear other people's opinions too, because it's lauded as one of the best shows on TV.


Oh, I love Breaking Bad, but the past two finales bludgeoned the viewer. One year ago, with Jesse holding the gun, and the camera rotating to face him. We knew Jesse was going to kill Gil, but EVEN THEN, you had people arguing that the shift in camera meant he was aiming away from Gil. The writers for the show gave a few interviews absolutely perplexed as to how people could read anything ambiguous into the ending. Last season's Lily of the Valley ending was also a little too much. Just have Walter sitting there with it in the background. We don't need a slow zoom, especially if we've been paying attention during the first few episodes. And, of course, not zooming in on the plant gives the writers even more freedom.

/and don't get me started on The Walking Dead
 
2012-01-11 09:15:58 AM
4NSpy: All he has to do is tell Sanchez to hand the ball off, sprinkle in a few play actions. Jets were built like the 49ers, possession game with a strong D, but they called plays like they were the patriots.

The signings of Santonio Holmes and Plaxico Burress would like a word with you.
 
2012-01-11 09:29:30 AM
downtownkid: 4NSpy: All he has to do is tell Sanchez to hand the ball off, sprinkle in a few play actions. Jets were built like the 49ers, possession game with a strong D, but they called plays like they were the patriots.

The signings of Santonio Holmes and Plaxico Burress would like a word with you.


thats funny cuz id like a word with holmes too. Two actually. YOUR FIRED.


/I would do anything to cut his ass and bring back braylon.
 
2012-01-11 09:43:43 AM
whizbangthedirtfarmer: Doc Daneeka: Nogrhi: I thought he died in the last episode.

He did.

Anyone who thought he didn't is either in denial or simply wasn't paying attention. David Chase practically hit you over the head with it.

Not to threadjack, but I've come to the conclusion that American entertainment feels that its viewers cannot deal with any ambiguity. I'm not a fan of The Sopranos (just not a mafia guy), but it was obvious to me that Tony was about to get whacked, and then some, but the outcry shows that a majority of the viewing audience just couldn't handle any sense of ambiguity. If Tony was going to be killed, they needed to see the guns, the bullets, and the blood. Think about all of the morons upset at the end of The Blair Witch Project who complained that they didn't even "get to see the witch!"

And compare the American and British versions of Life on Mars. The American one? A spaceship? SRSLY? Again, there's just no sense that American companies feel that Americans can handle an ambiguous ending, and a majority of the audience proves it every time. Hell, even Breaking Bad has eschewed ambiguity for the past few season endings.

And uh, to avoid the threadjack, Jets fans are like most Americans: they dislike ambiguity, so they go into the season with a health sense of FAIL.

/I've all but given up on American programming


American sport fans can't deal with ambiguity, either. See: The BCS, the shootout in hockey, the ridiculous overtime rules in college football, constant criticism of of soccer for allowing games to end in a draw, etc.
 
2012-01-11 09:55:44 AM
MugzyBrown: //Didn't even know Sporano was an offensive coach.

Believe it or not, he called the plays when he was a college head coach. Ran a 4-WR offense with tons of trick plays. Even got the team to the national championship one year.

He might have called plays in Dallas too, but my memory's fuzzy on that one.

/Went to the school Sparano coached at, so I'm slightly biased.
 
2012-01-11 10:10:09 AM
GimpyNip: 4NSpy: All he has to do is tell Sanchez to hand the ball off, sprinkle in a few play actions. Jets were built like the 49ers, possession game with a strong D, but they called plays like they were the patriots.

Dude. That ended when Thomas Jones left. The ghost of LDT & Shonn Greene didn't exactly Voltron into Curtis Martin.


I wonder if they will look at Hillis. I think OAK re-signs Bush.
 
2012-01-11 10:16:32 AM
Doc Daneeka: Nogrhi: I thought he died in the last episode.

He did.

Anyone who thought he didn't is either in denial or simply wasn't paying attention. David Chase practically hit you over the head with it.


There was an absolutely masterful write-up of this on some blog or another shortly after the final episode, discussing the re-creation of the last supper, the symbolism of the organge that Tony ate in the final episode, the meaning of the cat staring at dead people (and the picture of the cat staring at Tony at dinner), the parallel between Tony's comment on the onion rings and Michael Corleone's comment on the veal, the relevance of "Members Only" in the history of the series, on and on... and yes, unmistakeably, Tony was whacked. If anyone can find a link to that article (it was pretty well-circulated), I'd love to take a look at it again.
 
2012-01-11 10:24:30 AM
El Brujo: GimpyNip: 4NSpy: All he has to do is tell Sanchez to hand the ball off, sprinkle in a few play actions. Jets were built like the 49ers, possession game with a strong D, but they called plays like they were the patriots.

Dude. That ended when Thomas Jones left. The ghost of LDT & Shonn Greene didn't exactly Voltron into Curtis Martin.

I wonder if they will look at Hillis. I think OAK re-signs Bush.


They have 2 1000 yard rushers. They could get a lot for either guy, but I do think they'll keep bush. DMC will be judged on how fast he recovers.
 
2012-01-11 10:30:57 AM
TravisBickle62: I don't get the head

Take her out to a nice dinner and get a few drinks into her.
 
2012-01-11 10:31:51 AM
And in other news: The Jets
 
2012-01-11 10:33:30 AM
Harv72b: TravisBickle62: I don't get the head

Take her out to a nice dinner and get a few drinks into her.


*snerk* Harv, you
 
2012-01-11 10:51:00 AM
media.whosay.com
 
2012-01-11 11:10:09 AM
What do you get if you combine the Dolphins and Jets coaching staffs?
 
2012-01-11 11:20:10 AM
mikaloyd: What do you get if you combine the Dolphins and Jets coaching staffs?

I don't know, what? :)
 
2012-01-11 11:21:44 AM
You can switch drivers all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you're driving an Edsel.
 
2012-01-11 11:26:20 AM
GimpyNip: Gulper Eel: INeedAName: I gotta say, I don't see this as a good move for the Jets, but I'm okay if they keep losing. collapsing late in the season after bragging that they are the hottest thing since hot shiat

FTFY.

The tears and kvetching of Jets fans nurture me. Can't wait until the annual ritual: "with the 16th pick in the NFL Draft, the New York Jets select...from Vassar College..."

You're a fool. A gigantic fool. Aside from Vernon Gholston the Jets haven't even made a bad draft pick since the show was broadcast in HD.


Vlad Ducasse would like to have a word with you, but he's too busy getting his QB killed...
 
2012-01-11 11:28:36 AM
Super Chronic: Doc Daneeka: Nogrhi: I thought he died in the last episode.

He did.

Anyone who thought he didn't is either in denial or simply wasn't paying attention. David Chase practically hit you over the head with it.

There was an absolutely masterful write-up of this on some blog or another shortly after the final episode, discussing the re-creation of the last supper, the symbolism of the organge that Tony ate in the final episode, the meaning of the cat staring at dead people (and the picture of the cat staring at Tony at dinner), the parallel between Tony's comment on the onion rings and Michael Corleone's comment on the veal, the relevance of "Members Only" in the history of the series, on and on... and yes, unmistakeably, Tony was whacked. If anyone can find a link to that article (it was pretty well-circulated), I'd love to take a look at it again.


I think you mean this one. And yeah, it does lay it all out pretty plainly. It's not just the final scene. Tony's death was being foreshadowed (in some cases, pretty heavy-handedly) the entire 6th season.

http://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/the-sopranos-definitive-explana t ion-of-the-end/

IMO, the ending isn't ambiguous at all. Tony's dead. He was shot point-blank in the head by the man in the Members Only jacket coming out of the bathroom. The scene cuts to black because that's what happens when you die - one minute you see and hear your surroundings, and the next you don't. Chase doesn't actually show the guy shooting Tony because, as was stated several times throughout that season, you never see or hear the one that gets you.
 
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