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EvilEgg [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 08:35:24 PM
I got here before the person complaining about " begs the question". Yay me!
 
Dead for Tax Reasons [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 08:42:29 PM
if you've seen one prosthetic testicle, you've seen them all
 
Marshall Willenholly
2012-01-10 10:35:40 PM
So I was reading the other day that if a guy has his balls removed for some reason (like cancer), most guys request prosthetic balls be put in. Really? Wouldn't it be nice to ride a bike or sit down without smashing those things in you groin?
 
Apos [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 10:36:11 PM
Two,including Ozzy's?
 
Ramien
2012-01-10 10:39:03 PM
When she was young, she used to play in the ball pit...
 
Pwnchubr
2012-01-10 10:39:30 PM
I'd let her hang my testicles off her chin.
 
farbekrieg
2012-01-10 10:40:17 PM
7?
 
fearmongert
2012-01-10 10:43:12 PM
how many prosthetic testicles has Kelly Osbourne seen?

In a row?
 
sinanju
2012-01-10 10:45:46 PM
EvilEgg: I got here before the person complaining about " begs the question". Yay me!

D'oh!
 
calbert [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 10:48:25 PM
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."


What is "Begging the Question?"

"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "I think he is unattractive because he is ugly." The adjective "ugly" does not explain why the subject is "unattractive" -- they virtually amount to the same subjective meaning, and the proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.
What is it Not?

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question." (e.g. "It begs the question, why is he so dumb?") This is a common error of usage made by those who mistake the word "question" in the phrase to refer to a literal question. Sadly, the error has grown more and more common with time, such that even journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities have fallen prey to "BTQ Abuse."

While descriptivists and other such laissez-faire linguists are content to allow the misconception to fall into the vernacular, it cannot be denied that logic and philosophy stand to lose an important conceptual label should the meaning of BTQ become diluted to the point that we must constantly distinguish between the traditional usage and the erroneous "modern" usage. This is why we fight.

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
 
TeddyRooseveltsMustache
2012-01-10 10:53:57 PM
She probably has a collection of them.
 
Mildot
2012-01-10 10:54:22 PM
DNRTFA and Rather Not Know...
 
drkdstryer [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 10:54:40 PM
calbert: To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."

What is "Begging the Question?"

"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "I think he is unattractive because he is ugly." The adjective "ugly" does not explain why the subject is "unattractive" -- they virtually amount to the same subjective meaning, and the proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.
What is it Not?

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question." (e.g. "It begs the question, why is he so dumb?") This is a common error of usage made by those who mistake the word "question" in the phrase to refer to a literal question. Sadly, the error has grown more and more common with time, such that even journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities have fallen prey to "BTQ Abuse."

While descriptivists and other such laissez-faire linguists are content to allow the misconception to fall into the vernacular, it cannot be denied that logic and philosophy stand to lose an important conceptual label should the meaning of BTQ become diluted to the point that we must constantly distinguish between the traditional usage and the erroneous "modern" usage. This is why we fight.

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."

Usage trumps all.
 
Cosmk [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 10:56:34 PM
Well I for one will sleep better knowing I'm not the only one to wonder that.
 
Repo Man
2012-01-10 11:04:25 PM
Usage trumps all.

The only example I know of where Appeal to Popularity wins the day.
If I were in charge of the networks - excerpt from George Carlin's book, Brain Droppings (new window)
 
hosalabad
2012-01-10 11:05:57 PM
The 'Papa Don't Preach' singer was a victim of an unsavoury prank after Cyrus sent a bogus pizza delivery guy to her home - and filmed the chaos that ensued.


No. Madonna is the 'Papa Don't Preach' singer. The idiot in the article is a former reality tv show participant.
 
Loucifer
2012-01-10 11:07:31 PM
I think subby is dumb because he's stupid.
 
Mugato [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 11:07:39 PM
calbert: "Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "calbert is pedantic because he is anal about the trivial"
 
Apos [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 11:11:07 PM
hosalabad: The 'Papa Don't Preach' singer was a victim of an unsavoury prank after Cyrus sent a bogus pizza delivery guy to her home - and filmed the chaos that ensued.


No. Madonna is the 'Papa Don't Preach' singer. The idiot in the article is a former reality tv show participant.

AND unfortunately had a "Papa Don't Preach" cover on her first album IIRC.
 
video man [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 11:22:40 PM
calbert: To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."

What is "Begging the Question?"

"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "I think he is unattractive because he is ugly." The adjective "ugly" does not explain why the subject is "unattractive" -- they virtually amount to the same subjective meaning, and the proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.
What is it Not?

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question." (e.g. "It begs the question, why is he so dumb?") This is a common error of usage made by those who mistake the word "question" in the phrase to refer to a literal question. Sadly, the error has grown more and more common with time, such that even journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities have fallen prey to "BTQ Abuse."

While descriptivists and other such laissez-faire linguists are content to allow the misconception to fall into the vernacular, it cannot be denied that logic and philosophy stand to lose an important conceptual label should the meaning of BTQ become diluted to the point that we must constantly distinguish between the traditional usage and the erroneous "modern" usage. This is why we fight.

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."

Well, I guess it's just a doggy dog world.
 
Lipspinach
2012-01-10 11:24:44 PM
calbert: To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."

What is "Begging the Question?"

"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "I think he is unattractive because he is ugly." The adjective "ugly" does not explain why the subject is "unattractive" -- they virtually amount to the same subjective meaning, and the proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.
What is it Not?

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question." (e.g. "It begs the question, why is he so dumb?") This is a common error of usage made by those who mistake the word "question" in the phrase to refer to a literal question. Sadly, the error has grown more and more common with time, such that even journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities have fallen prey to "BTQ Abuse."

While descriptivists and other such laissez-faire linguists are content to allow the misconception to fall into the vernacular, it cannot be denied that logic and philosophy stand to lose an important conceptual label should the meaning of BTQ become diluted to the point that we must constantly distinguish between the traditional usage and the erroneous "modern" usage. This is why we fight.

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."


Too long; didn't read
Too long; didn't read
Too long; didn't read
 
mamoru [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 11:31:46 PM
drkdstryer: Usage trumps all.

Exactly. Irregardless of the fact that I could care less about correct usage, this all begs the question, "wherefore is the toilet?", amirite?
 
video man [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 11:33:43 PM
mamoru: drkdstryer: Usage trumps all.

Exactly. Irregardless of the fact that I could care less about correct usage, this all begs the question, "wherefore is the toilet?", amirite?

english has no governing bodie, i am as rite as anyone.
 
Pumpernickel bread
2012-01-10 11:56:56 PM
calbert: To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."

What is "Begging the Question?"

"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "I think he is unattractive because he is ugly." The adjective "ugly" does not explain why the subject is "unattractive" -- they virtually amount to the same subjective meaning, and the proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.
What is it Not?

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question." (e.g. "It begs the question, why is he so dumb?") This is a common error of usage made by those who mistake the word "question" in the phrase to refer to a literal question. Sadly, the error has grown more and more common with time, such that even journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities have fallen prey to "BTQ Abuse."

While descriptivists and other such laissez-faire linguists are content to allow the misconception to fall into the vernacular, it cannot be denied that logic and philosophy stand to lose an important conceptual label should the meaning of BTQ become diluted to the point that we must constantly distinguish between the traditional usage and the erroneous "modern" usage. This is why we fight.

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."

The phrase "beg the question" can mean whatever we want it to mean. I would submit to you that if the majority of the English speaking population, including media, use it in place of "raise the question", then that is what it means now.
 
HighZoolander [TotalFark]
2012-01-10 11:57:13 PM
calbert: To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."

What is "Begging the Question?"

"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "I think he is unattractive because he is ugly." The adjective "ugly" does not explain why the subject is "unattractive" -- they virtually amount to the same subjective meaning, and the proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.
What is it Not?

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question." (e.g. "It begs the question, why is he so dumb?") This is a common error of usage made by those who mistake the word "question" in the phrase to refer to a literal question. Sadly, the error has grown more and more common with time, such that even journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities have fallen prey to "BTQ Abuse."

While descriptivists and other such laissez-faire linguists are content to allow the misconception to fall into the vernacular, it cannot be denied that logic and philosophy stand to lose an important conceptual label should the meaning of BTQ become diluted to the point that we must constantly distinguish between the traditional usage and the erroneous "modern" usage. This is why we fight.

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."


Prescriptivists are not linguists, they are control freaks.

How does a modern/colloquial usage harm a traditional/technical usage? Far from harming you, it even helps - it gives you guys something to feel superior about.

You also sound like you're making the same argument that's been made against gay marriage, which I always thought had nothing to do with logic and represented a warped philosophy.
 
drkdstryer [TotalFark]
2012-01-11 12:18:34 AM
mamoru: drkdstryer: Usage trumps all.

Exactly. Irregardless of the fact that I could care less about correct usage, this all begs the question, "wherefore is the toilet?", amirite?

Words are different than phrases. "Irregardless" is just straight up not a word. "Begs the question" is a phrase that has a non-obvious meaning that you cannot figure out by looking at the words in the phrase - indeed, the words in the phrase seem to point to a different definition, one that is by far the most commonly used today. English is great because it evolves. Are you going to also rail against "free-lance" because it no longer literally means a knight who isn't beholden to a lord? Or maybe "pass the buck" because dammit, if you're not passing along an actual piece of buckshot around the poker table, you're not passing the buck!
 
mjno7
2012-01-11 12:37:12 AM
Marshall Willenholly: So I was reading the other day that if a guy has his balls removed for some reason (like cancer), most guys request prosthetic balls be put in. Really? Wouldn't it be nice to ride a bike or sit down without smashing those things in you groin?

You're doing it wrong.

Or you're a chick. In which case: how YOU doin'?
 
Stunt_the_Runt
2012-01-11 12:41:31 AM
drkdstryer: mamoru: drkdstryer: Usage trumps all.

Exactly. Irregardless of the fact that I could care less about correct usage, this all begs the question, "wherefore is the toilet?", amirite?

Words are different than phrases. "Irregardless" is just straight up not a word. "Begs the question" is a phrase that has a non-obvious meaning that you cannot figure out by looking at the words in the phrase - indeed, the words in the phrase seem to point to a different definition, one that is by far the most commonly used today. English is great because it evolves. Are you going to also rail against "free-lance" because it no longer literally means a knight who isn't beholden to a lord? Or maybe "pass the buck" because dammit, if you're not passing along an actual piece of buckshot around the poker table, you're not passing the buck!

Sir, that is very festizious of you. Everyone else is using cromulent turns of phrase, accept it.
 
mamoru [TotalFark]
2012-01-11 01:07:39 AM
drkdstryer: Words are different than phrases.

Hmmm. But, I thought a very intelligent person once said "Usage trumps all." I wasn't aware there were restrictions attached. :-/
 
Gunderson
2012-01-11 01:28:43 AM
An article can't beg, silly. It's inanimate.

Also, why would Kelly Osbourne date a prosthetic testicle?
 
HighZoolander [TotalFark]
2012-01-11 01:33:55 AM
Gunderson: An article can't beg, silly. It's inanimate.

Also, why would Kelly Osbourne date a prosthetic testicle?

Daddy issues?
 
XMark
2012-01-11 01:46:16 AM
The only thing more annoying than people complaining about a perceived misuse of "begs the question" are the people who complain about the people who complain about the perceived misuse of "begs the question" before the people who complain about the perceived misuse of "begs the question" have already complained.

Also, language evolves, biatches. Deal with it!
 
fusillade762
2012-01-11 01:47:55 AM
video man: calbert: To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."

What is "Begging the Question?"

"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "I think he is unattractive because he is ugly." The adjective "ugly" does not explain why the subject is "unattractive" -- they virtually amount to the same subjective meaning, and the proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.
What is it Not?

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question." (e.g. "It begs the question, why is he so dumb?") This is a common error of usage made by those who mistake the word "question" in the phrase to refer to a literal question. Sadly, the error has grown more and more common with time, such that even journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities have fallen prey to "BTQ Abuse."

While descriptivists and other such laissez-faire linguists are content to allow the misconception to fall into the vernacular, it cannot be denied that logic and philosophy stand to lose an important conceptual label should the meaning of BTQ become diluted to the point that we must constantly distinguish between the traditional usage and the erroneous "modern" usage. This is why we fight.

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."

Well, I guess it's just a doggy dog world.

Well, they really mean the same thing for all intensive purposes.
 
fusillade762
2012-01-11 01:50:43 AM
 
Nightmaretony
2012-01-11 01:54:14 AM
You guys didn't read the article. First thing Farkers would think of involves franks and beans!
 
PabloHosehead
2012-01-11 03:10:19 AM
video man: mamoru: drkdstryer: Usage trumps all.

Exactly. Irregardless of the fact that I could care less about correct usage, this all begs the question, "wherefore is the toilet?", amirite?

english has no governing bodie, i am as rite as anyone.

Including Raymond Luxury-Yacht...
 
lilplatinum
2012-01-11 04:24:53 AM
drkdstryer: Words are different than phrases. "Irregardless" is just straight up not a word. "Begs the question" is a phrase that has a non-obvious meaning that you cannot figure out by looking at the words in the phrase - indeed, the words in the phrase seem to point to a different definition, one that is by far the most commonly used today. English is great because it evolves. Are you going to also rail against "free-lance" because it no longer literally means a knight who isn't beholden to a lord? Or maybe "pass the buck" because dammit, if you're not passing along an actual piece of buckshot around the poker table, you're not passing the buck!

Except those definitions logically followed from their original one, they weren't just completely and arbitrarily changed because enough stupid people used them improprely.

Incidentally, if it is okay to arbitrarily change the definition of a phrase its okay to coin words too, irregardless of what you think.
 
ongbok
2012-01-11 04:45:48 AM
What ever happened to Jack? I remember a while ago after Jack had lost all his weight and was in Asia filming his adventure show, Kelly was a presenter or something at an award show. She got on stage and started crying, then apologized and said that she had just found out that a family member had contracted HIV. There was speculation that it was Jack because of all of the stories going around about all of his whoring in Thailand while he was filming his show, supposedly with women and lady boys. Makes me wonder he did contract HIV because of him suddenly dropping out of the spotlight.
 
Freakin Rican
2012-01-11 08:29:05 AM
franks and beans!!!
 
DoctorOfLove
2012-01-11 08:30:15 AM
There is hope for beg the question. I have noticed that there are far fewer your you're mistakes on the intertubes than their there used to be. I think intertube discussion boards are actually very slowly raising the general level of grammar, weirdly enough.

So if we all keep hammering on the goddam beg the question usage, over time, you will start to see a decline in its improper use. Certainly on fark, since every time it gets used, this happens.

Raises the question folks. Just change begs to raises. Begs the question is basically an insult. "Your answer begs the question, you twit."
 
mamoru [TotalFark]
2012-01-11 08:56:19 AM
fusillade762: for all intensive purposes.

Dammit, I knew I forgot one in my before-second post up there! >:(
 
carrion_luggage [TotalFark]
2012-01-11 09:23:32 AM
Asking about prosthetic testicles is not nuts.
 
Pepperjack
2012-01-11 10:02:59 AM
If subby would of said "raises" rather than "begs", all this chatter could of been avoided as it should of.
 
Erix
2012-01-11 10:13:17 AM
Pepperjack: If subby would of said "raises" rather than "begs", all this chatter could of been avoided as it should of.

And there would be half as many posts in this thread. Trolling via headlines is second nature here, even when it's unrelated to the link.
 
Ctrl-Alt-Del
2012-01-11 10:35:57 AM
Erix: Pepperjack: If subby would of said "raises" rather than "begs", all this chatter could of been avoided as it should of.

And there would be half as many posts in this thread. Trolling via headlines is second nature here, even when it's unrelated to the link.

Indeed

i887.photobucket.com
 
Psycoholic_Slag
2012-01-11 12:26:45 PM
calbert: To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."

What is "Begging the Question?"

"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "I think he is unattractive because he is ugly." The adjective "ugly" does not explain why the subject is "unattractive" -- they virtually amount to the same subjective meaning, and the proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.
What is it Not?

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question." (e.g. "It begs the question, why is he so dumb?") This is a common error of usage made by those who mistake the word "question" in the phrase to refer to a literal question. Sadly, the error has grown more and more common with time, such that even journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities have fallen prey to "BTQ Abuse."

While descriptivists and other such laissez-faire linguists are content to allow the misconception to fall into the vernacular, it cannot be denied that logic and philosophy stand to lose an important conceptual label should the meaning of BTQ become diluted to the point that we must constantly distinguish between the traditional usage and the erroneous "modern" usage. This is why we fight.

To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question."



Oh STFU and GBTW.

Who effing cares?
 
WorLord
2012-01-11 01:38:06 PM
Lipspinach:
Too long; didn't read
Too long; didn't read
Too long; didn't read

If I were you (or anyone else who uses this phrase), I'd be less inclined to advertise my lack of attention span.

/TL;DR is a farking cancer
//Brevity may be the soul of wit, but wit doesn't necessarily imply intelligence
 
calbert [TotalFark]
2012-01-11 03:40:48 PM
Erix: Pepperjack: If subby would of said "raises" rather than "begs", all this chatter could of been avoided as it should of.

And there would be half as many posts in this thread. Trolling via headlines is second nature here, even when it's unrelated to the link.

I think you missed the would of, could of, should of part of Pepperjack's post

/and that's sad.
//that people are reading pepperjack's post and not seeing or hearing anything wrong with it
 
Pepperjack
2012-01-11 03:51:34 PM
Thanks calbert. I was concerned that nobody sawwhatididthere.jpg.
 
Erix
2012-01-11 05:55:59 PM
calbert: Erix: Pepperjack: If subby would of said "raises" rather than "begs", all this chatter could of been avoided as it should of.

And there would be half as many posts in this thread. Trolling via headlines is second nature here, even when it's unrelated to the link.

I think you missed the would of, could of, should of part of Pepperjack's post

/and that's sad.
//that people are reading pepperjack's post and not seeing or hearing anything wrong with it

Actually, I did miss that. And thats a shame. Its a bad sign when error's like that go completely unseen because of how common they are.
 
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