33% of South Carolina voters think corporations are people?

But when those people get together, they form like Voltron to make a wealthy, connected person that has rights more important than yours.

CPennypacker: 33% of South Carolina voters think corporations are people?

No, 33% believe only white heterosexual christians are people.

Yes, even red staters are against unrestricted corporate personhood. This is a winnable fight if we keep pushing.

BONG! BONG! BONG!

Did subby use a speak and spell to write that headline?

CPennypacker: 33% of South Carolina voters think corporations are people?

Well to be fair 33% of South Carolinians think possum is a traditional thanksgiving meal and that foosball is the devil.

I'll recognize corporations as people the instant they have the same responsibilities as people.

God I would totally hate to be a progressive in SC.

How do you even take it?

mpfjr: Did subby use a speak and spell to write that headline?

Just like in stories of old. Corporation playing the old game of Master and Servant for some great reward.Gotta go there are flies on the windscreen.

How many votes does a piece of Soylent Green get?

+1 as a huge Depeche fan

Goddamnit, Subby. Now I have it in my head.

max_pooper: CPennypacker: 33% of South Carolina voters think corporations are people?

No, 33% believe only white heterosexual christians are people.

What about white heterosexual christian corporations?

/Like Chick-Fil-A

Kar98: BONG! BONG! BONG!

I hear it more as "BOWN! BOWN! BOWN!

But you, know.... Potato, Tomato.

mpfjr: Did subby use a speak and spell to write that headline?

It is almost a song quote, almost.

Corporations are people, money is speech, and the 4th Amendment doesn't exist.

Welcome to 21st Century Bizarro America.

The graph
On the wall
Tells the story
Of it all
Picture it now
See just how
The lies and deceit
Gained a little more power
Confidence
Taken in
By a sun tan
And a grin

The grabbing hands
Grab all they can
All for themselves
After all

It's a competitive world
Everything counts in large amounts

clusterfrak: mpfjr: Did subby use a speak and spell to write that headline?

Just like in stories of old. Corporation playing the old game of Master and Servant for some great reward.Gotta go there are flies on the windscreen.

Always the same, the grabbing hands grab what that they can. Everything counts in large amounts, so they say.

I hate the fact the corps can weasel out this way, but if they aren't "people", then the real people at the corps have to take the hit for the things the corps do. You know that every chance they get, the big toads are going to throw some little administrative/clerical froggie under the big fat tires of the law. If the corps are people, only the corp takes the hit, and it's usually a clawback of their filthy lucre.

I follow California politics pretty closely (from there). I do believe there is an anti-corporate personhood initiative making it's way around the state. Unfortunately it's tied to some legislative budget initiative that I don't know will get passed.

Here it is 14th down (I was wrong about the budget part being attached)

If you ever want a good laugh, read some of these proposed initiatives sometimes. They're hilarious.
One was an initiative to make the Bible some special protected speech that would trump everything else.

People who continue to oppose corporate personhood either have no understanding of what it is or have not thought through the implications of ending it.

Do you really think because people are working together they should be giving up equal protection rights?

/limited liability is not an aspect of corporate personhood,

You're the jerk... jerk: People who continue to oppose corporate personhood either have no understanding of what it is or have not thought through the implications of ending it.

Do you really think because people are working together they should be giving up equal protection rights?

/limited liability is not an aspect of corporate personhood,

Then the entire input of every person in the 'group' should have equal say in the decision of the corporation's 'speech', not just the people in charge.

max_pooper: CPennypacker: 33% of South Carolina voters think corporations are people?

No, 33% believe only white heterosexual christians are people.

Those corporations could be run by non-white people.

SilentStrider: JerseyTim: clusterfrak: mpfjr: Did subby use a speak and spell to write that headline?

Just like in stories of old. Corporation playing the old game of Master and Servant for some great reward.Gotta go there are flies on the windscreen.

Enough with the condemnation. I'm just trying to give people a little laugh here. Try walking in my shoes.

If you're ever lauded, it'll be a black celebration indeed.

I don't wanna start any blasphemous rumours, but I think subby's got a sick sense of humor. Humour.

If corporations are people, are they people from the time of conception, or only after their IPO?

Filming and screening
I picture the scene
Filming and dreaming
Dreaming of me, yeah.......

Kar98: SilentStrider: JerseyTim: clusterfrak: mpfjr: Did subby use a speak and spell to write that headline?

Just like in stories of old. Corporation playing the old game of Master and Servant for some great reward.Gotta go there are flies on the windscreen.

Enough with the condemnation. I'm just trying to give people a little laugh here. Try walking in my shoes.

If you're ever lauded, it'll be a black celebration indeed.

I don't wanna start any blasphemous rumours, but I think subby's got a sick sense of humor. Humour.

Hey, take a walk in his shoes. You'll stumble in his footsteps, keep the same appointments he kept.

You're the jerk... jerk: People who continue to oppose corporate personhood either have no understanding of what it is or have not thought through the implications of ending it.

It seems that when they were granted "rights of a person" they always came with a caveat but as the rulings built on eachother they got to the point of allowing them more freedom of speech than a real human.

♫ Your own corporate Jesus ♩♪... someone to hear your prayers ♪♩ ... someone who cares... ♬

thebadmitton: +1 as a huge Depeche fan

Bet you don't know this one. (new window)

Splinshints: I'll recognize corporations as people the instant they have the same responsibilities as people.

I'll believe that corporations are people when Texas starts executing them.

Wayne 985: You're the jerk... jerk: People who continue to oppose corporate personhood either have no understanding of what it is or have not thought through the implications of ending it.

Do you really think because people are working together they should be giving up equal protection rights?

/limited liability is not an aspect of corporate personhood,

A collection of people is just that. They don't somehow transform into Voltron and become yet another, larger "person."

They don't get to right to vote, can't contribute to campaigns, what right are they getting that they would not get imputed from the individual rights of the owners? Are you really upset that they can hypothetically allow an individual to own more liquor licenses?

If it is political spending that upsets you, would you prefer political position ads to be available only to the super rich (e.g. the Koch brothers) and not groups banded together?

Headso: You're the jerk... jerk: People who continue to oppose corporate personhood either have no understanding of what it is or have not thought through the implications of ending it.

It seems that when they were granted "rights of a person" they always came with a caveat but as the rulings built on eachother they got to the point of allowing them more freedom of speech than a real human.

What freedom of speach do they have that a real human does not?

You're the jerk... jerk: Headso: You're the jerk... jerk: People who continue to oppose corporate personhood either have no understanding of what it is or have not thought through the implications of ending it.

It seems that when they were granted "rights of a person" they always came with a caveat but as the rulings built on eachother they got to the point of allowing them more freedom of speech than a real human.

What freedom of speach do they have that a real human does not?

Unlimited campaign contributions, and more money to use on them.

You know's stupid? The people who rely on the "enter contracts" clause to defend corporate personhood.

Gyrfalcon: My cat believes that she is a person.

Or that we are all cats, I'm not sure which.

Everybody wants to be a cat (new window)

TFerWannaBe: You're the jerk... jerk: Headso: You're the jerk... jerk: People who continue to oppose corporate personhood either have no understanding of what it is or have not thought through the implications of ending it.

It seems that when they were granted "rights of a person" they always came with a caveat but as the rulings built on eachother they got to the point of allowing them more freedom of speech than a real human.

What freedom of speach do they have that a real human does not?

Unlimited campaign contributions, and more money to use on them.

They are allowed 0 dollars in campaign contributions. They cannot contribute to PACs. The rules for their political spending are much more restricted than yours.

After watching the first video and getting the full context, I have to say the guy heckling Romney is an idiot. All Romney was saying is that corporate money is ultimately for human beings and corporate taxes come out of the money for human beings, which is an indisputable, if uninteresting, statement. They guy seems to think that corporate coffers go to some alien in the sky or something. He is free to argue that most of the money in corporations goes to rich human beings and, as such, should be subject to higher taxes under our progressive system; but to laugh derisively at the basic statement that it's money for "people" is just plain retarded. And now, of course, the quote is being taken completely out of context and turned into some kind of statement of corporate personhood or defense of Citizens United; it's no such thing.

We are returning to a "company town" style of living except all towns (and governments) are controlled by banks.

And you cannot escape. Try living "outside of society" and see how long you stay "free".

I don't want to start any bannable rumours but I think some mod's got a sick sense of humour.

(yes yes...i know mods don't approve headlines admins do, but it was less funny that way)