You know, that Kim Novak had some big breasts.

Cagey B: For what it's worth, I was once raped when I paid almost forty bucks for my wife and I to watch an IMAX James Cameron deep sea documentary that ended up being an extended commerical for Red Lobster.

So feminists "took back" the word biatch. But they also seem to have stolen the word "rape."

I was raped by the system.
I was really raped on that test.
They took my book and raped it turning it into a screenplay.
She took my kids and accused me of molesting them. No one would listen, I lost all my friends, I feel like I was raped.
They took my screenplay and raped it and then made it a musical!
I had to sell my house and quickly, boy do I feel raped.

If you say these things, you are probably pro-rape, a rape apologizer, and quite likely a rapist yourself.

It comes in 40lb boxes you know.

Newswire: Kim Novak says she feels raped by The Artist


"La la la la la...I change my name back! La la la la la..."

FishyFred: //and do not give comfort to the enemy

I guess I don't understand. Who is the enemy? I really don't have any enemies and I try not to view categorize individuals or groups of people as enemies.

Can you clarify this? Who are the enemies you see?

FishyFred: I'm at the point where I look at people weird when they use the word like you do in your examples.

That's interesting. I'm a bit older than you, judging from your profile picture, and I feel that way about the word biatch. I was raised never to use it, and would never express it in public (in anything other than a Breaking Bad reference.) I kind of look funny at anyone that does use it in a casual manner. But you seem to feel differently and use it casually in addressing me without thinking of how it expresses your misogyny since you use it as a put down.

I don't think using a word like rape to express forced and unfair injustice (enforced at the point of a gun) from the legal system for example weakens the word rape, or somehow makes it okay to rape others.

I don't think saying, "I killed on that test", or "I was slaughtered", condones murder or war.

I think somebody is getting a tad grumpy in her old age ;)

FishyFred: I would have likened my use of the word there to the gay community's reclaiming of the word "fag." I never use it as a putdown, but more as an in-joke. I didn't mean for it to have a mean-spirited tone.

I absolutely believe you, but that's my point.

You have a word, biatch, that you use in jest, to make a point, but that word's history, and your use of it is absolutely a misogynistic putdown .In using that word, you feel you are not condoning or encouraging misogyny.

But you also have another word, rape, that if other people use to express how they feel totally violated and usually coerced, where they had no choice, by more powerful individuals, you think that their use of that word is out of bounds, and somehow weakens the vile act of rape, or even encourages and gives aid and comfort to rapists.

I'm not a linguist or etymologist -- I am generally curious as to when rape became relatively widely used to mean an act of violation but not an act of sexual violation.

Well whatever you shiat stabbers want to call yourselves, we can at least have a little more Kim Novak in this thread

foo monkey: I liked The Artist.

I think it's the film of the year, so this means that the overrated "Tree of Life" will win despite that movie not having a solid story structure.

And of all the things Novak could have chosen to put her name back in the news, she chose this? I thought she was dead in the first place.

skinink: And of all the things Novak could have chosen to put her name back in the news, she chose this? I thought she was dead in the first place.



R.I.P. Novak

Quantum Apostrophe: Hey if we had life extension she'd still look like that today, but nooOOOoooo.... You want moon rocks.

Vertigotohell. I was just trying to get away from the butt nut talk. :p