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(Fox News)   Have four or more drinks 4 times a month? Congratulations, you're part of the epidemic of American binge drinkers that a new CDC study has just discovered. EVERYBODY *hic* PANIC   (foxnews.com) divider line 286
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2012-01-10 09:32:16 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Cheers, Farkers-It's Tuesday and we're all still alive!

This was an awesome post.


Or delusional. Hard to tell on fark.
 
2012-01-10 09:35:28 PM  

Strongbeerrules: I never drink unless I'm alone or with somebody. And like W.C. Fields, I've read so much on the evils of drinking that I've given up reading. Except Stephen King novels.


Then read my link above, drinking is actually really good for you, far better than not drinking.
It does carry severe health risks, especially if you do it too much or if you binge too often, but there are also myriad health benefits that are always completely ignored by those who claim to be warning us about the daemon drink for our own good.
 
2012-01-10 09:40:13 PM  

trappedspirit: Debeo Summa Credo: Cheers, Farkers-It's Tuesday and we're all still alive!

This was an awesome post.

Or delusional. Hard to tell on fark.


Real as all hell, and fully employed since high school, to boot! Also in a loving, fun, 13 year long relationship with the woman who will be cooking the steaks when she gets off work. Wait.....there is no hell except those we make for ourselves and others. Real as Planet Earth!

Oh, got to go and get the brussels sprouts before heading home!


///there really are still some cool, sane, freedom-and-life-loving people in America, Believe It!
 
2012-01-10 09:43:55 PM  

gilby_jr: On On!
/Hairy Twatter of the Orange County Hash House Harriers


Boy, you have a running problem.
 
2012-01-10 09:44:49 PM  
I only have one drink. I just drink a lot of it.

/bourbon
 
2012-01-10 09:52:10 PM  
In the interest of..um...you know...science....I had my 4 shot "quota" while watching this thread. How I'm suddenly any more of a menace than ary other Fark idiot is news to me.

Anybody need a ride home?
 
2012-01-10 09:54:30 PM  

IoSaturnalia: wademh: So I'm guessing that going through two fifths of whiskey a week would be considered too much?

Yes. You should be buying 1.75L 'handles' - it's cheaper.


Used to do 3 of those every two weeks, but then I moved up from Jack Daniels.
Proper single malts don't typically run that size and at $150 a bottle the cost is saving my liver.
 
2012-01-10 09:56:30 PM  

GAT_00: I swear sometimes I'm the only person on this site that isn't an alcoholic.


Used to drink a lot. Stopped cold turkey about 4 years ago for health reasons (not liver).

Last bit of booze was the day after Christmas. Glass of wine with dinner.

/don't really miss it anymore
 
2012-01-10 09:56:37 PM  
1450thesportsbuzz.com
 
2012-01-10 09:59:13 PM  
Small female. One bottle of wine is what it takes to make me sleepy. Went through a fifth of tequila the other day in about two drinking sessions--only one of which was enough to do much. I take a medication that increases my tolerance so much I can't afford to be an alcoholic and I have to "binge drink" to even get a buzz =(

Wish they had stats on liver disease without acetaminophen playin a role. I'd like to know how much my liver hates me.
 
2012-01-10 10:04:24 PM  
4 drinks is now binge drinking? I guess that's no worse than the story on the MSN mainpage claiming the "average" pot smoker smokes 2-3 joints a month. Apparently, everyone I have ever known to smoke pot is a spectacular overachiever.
 
2012-01-10 10:06:33 PM  
I have four or more drinks with three meals a day and four more for desert at nite...F ME!
 
2012-01-10 10:08:24 PM  
Four drinks in a day four times a month? The French call that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, of the first week of the month.
 
2012-01-10 10:09:28 PM  

Skyd1v: downstairs: Skyd1v: My liver just tried to jump up and tie my esophagus shut.

/not fond of the vodak...or ginger ale, for that matter.
//Scotch. Scotchyscotchyscotch.

I know, I know. I just can't so scotch/whiskey. I've tried, I really wanted to... because I love complex flavors, and like finer things like different wines, different liquors.

I love, love, love ginger ale- vodak or not.

Weird how that works. I personally have never been able to handle the "clear" spirits (vodka, Bacardi rum, white tequila) else I turn into a porcelain worshipper. But put me on the scotch, bourbon, or a half-decent whiskey and I can drink the night away.

Always wanted to see if the aversion extends to Moonshine as well, but never lived in a place where such a thing was available. Sounds like a roadtrip is in order soon...for SCIENCE.


Had moonshine only once. Made a cocktail with about 1.5-2 shots worth of the moonshine, and maybe a cup of white cranberry and peach juice, and a little orange juice. Couldn't taste a drop of alcohol but I had a hell of a buzz. It normally takes nearly a bottle of wine to do that to me.

/would kill for some moonshine here
//have decided to see about anti anxiety meds instead, since that and having a relaxing weekend in are the only reasons I drink
///and just liking the taste of alcohol and the process of mixing drinks
 
2012-01-10 10:10:46 PM  

Canned Tamales: trappedspirit: Debeo Summa Credo: Cheers, Farkers-It's Tuesday and we're all still alive!

This was an awesome post.

Or delusional. Hard to tell on fark.

Real as all hell, and fully employed since high school, to boot! Also in a loving, fun, 13 year long relationship with the woman who will be cooking the steaks when she gets off work. Wait.....there is no hell except those we make for ourselves and others. Real as Planet Earth!

Oh, got to go and get the brussels sprouts before heading home!


///there really are still some cool, sane, freedom-and-life-loving people in America, Believe It!


I think we have all the proof we need now.
 
2012-01-10 10:13:42 PM  

IAmRight: NorCalLos: I "quit" binge drinking a year or so ago, and cut down from drinking high octane barleywines and such to pilsner. I drink damn near every night, but only a beer or two...maybe three if I'm feeling frisky.

This. When you get older and chill the f*ck out and realize that getting plastered every weekend isn't really helping you get anywhere in life, you knock it off.

/people near the poverty line aren't really helping themselves out with 8-9 drinks each weekend. Let's be REAL cheap and assume that's 30 bucks an outing...that's 120 bucks/month at least spent getting nothing.


Dude, no. I can get a bottle of drinkable wine for $4-5. I can make the "binge" mark even cheaper if I get liquor (a little more if I'm making cocktails).
 
2012-01-10 10:16:19 PM  
8-9 drinks, as defined in the article very few here actually read, is really almost the perfect amount. Good solid buzz, but not excruciating headache hangover amount.

But 10-13 are pretty fun too.
 
2012-01-10 10:16:29 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Four drinks in a day four times a month? The French call that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, of the first week of the month.


Yep, but we have an industry that was created off of the war on drugs and we need to keep those rehabs filled somehow.
/Not joking.
 
2012-01-10 10:17:20 PM  

doloresonthedottedline: Dude, no. I can get a bottle of drinkable wine for $4-5. I can make the "binge" mark even cheaper if I get liquor (a little more if I'm making cocktails).


I live in Kentucky. I would have to be almost absolutely living-on-the-street impoverished for me to not be able to get a cheap likker buzz. I think I need to stop experimenting. Caught a 1/2 liter bottle of lime-flavored rum for 5 bucks on sale last week. Mixed w/ Dr. P, and it tasted NOTHING like ANYTHING that was actually in it! Tasted like some kind of chocolate coffee drink. Made that bottle die much sooner.
 
2012-01-10 10:21:06 PM  

IAmRight: This. When you get older and chill the f*ck out and realize that getting plastered every weekend isn't really helping you get anywhere in life, you knock it off.

/people near the poverty line aren't really helping themselves out with 8-9 drinks each weekend. Let's be REAL cheap and assume that's 30 bucks an outing...that's 120 bucks/month at least spent getting nothing.


Heh, I hear people near the poverty line have cell phones and cable too. And they use extra electricity to play music. Geeze I go through 30 bucks of liquor at home on a weekend. And 3 day weekends cause that to shoot up 50%. I thought poverty line bought 40s and huffed stuff. Maybe some 'tussin.
 
2012-01-10 10:21:22 PM  
I don't drink at all (got nothing against people who do, I just don't like it), and even I think 4 drinks 4 times a month is pathetic.

/friends convinced me to drink on graduation
//had 4 drinks 4 times that NIGHT
 
2012-01-10 10:21:47 PM  

Mr Rusty Shackleford:

Anyway, the point of my CBS.... if I had 4 drinks 4 times a month and no more, I'd be a farking champion of sobriety. I'm going to try to cull the urges with lots of daily weight lifting and pot.

One strange thing though, the more advanced a drinker I become, the less I get any feeling of a hangover. Instead, I wake up feeling like a million bucks when I'd normally have a pounding headache and feel all pukey. Oh well, I gotta change something - that is the one cool part though.


Have you been screened for mental illness? Excessive alcohol can lead to mania. It could also be that you're just waking up still drunk.
 
2012-01-10 10:26:29 PM  
Obviously four drinks is exactly the same whether you're a 90-pound woman or a 300- pound linebacker. I hate shiat like this; I weigh 230 pounds and I'm Irish, if I've had 4 drinks I don't even feel it yet. Granted, I've actually only had four drinks total since August, but it's the principal of the thing.
 
2012-01-10 10:27:53 PM  
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2012-01-10 10:29:36 PM  
Stopped drinking years ago (in Wisconsin of all places) becuase well, I enjoyed the sauce a little too much. I even quit smoking. And since that time I have come to the following conclusion: busybodies, prudes, and paternalistic politicians do far more damage to this nation than the boozers, druggies, and fatties. Mind your own farking business and leave the rest of us alone.

/Almost would like to start smoking again to offend some more puritans.
//GF won't let me
 
2012-01-10 10:30:32 PM  
A six pack a day keeps the doctor away.
 
2012-01-10 10:35:19 PM  
i am not as thunk as some drinkle peep.


/Four drinks weren't even worth drinking, back in the day.
 
2012-01-10 10:36:26 PM  

doloresonthedottedline: Wish they had stats on liver disease without acetaminophen playin a role. I'd like to know how much my liver hates me.


All joking aside, if you're seeing a Dr. regularly for whatever medication you're taking, get him to check your liver enzymes. I don't want to sound like a buzzkill but your liver is nothing to fark with.
 
2012-01-10 10:42:54 PM  

CruJones: 8-9 drinks, as defined in the article very few here actually read, is really almost the perfect amount. Good solid buzz, but not excruciating headache hangover amount.

But 10-13 are pretty fun too.


You might want to go back and read it again. It is 4 for women and 5 for men. The 8 drinks is the average that those in the poll who did "binge drink" drank in a sitting. That has nothing to do with the CDC's definition.
 
2012-01-10 10:43:34 PM  
I'm getting resentful that if I met the CDC's criteria, I'll be labeled as a binge drinker. Despite the fact I've drunk maybe 1-2 glasses of wine max over a handful of times last year and if I were told I *had* to drink four drinks any given night I would probably react the same as if someone suggested I get a colonoscopy.
 
2012-01-10 10:44:29 PM  
Why do people drink if not to get drunk. I don't get it.
 
2012-01-10 10:50:27 PM  

Emposter: I don't drink at all (got nothing against people who do, I just don't like it), and even I think 4 drinks 4 times a month is pathetic.

/friends convinced me to drink on graduation
//had 4 drinks 4 times that NIGHT


Well from what I've been reading you really ought to start! It's good for the heart, drinkers live longer and have far fewer strokes!
 
2012-01-10 10:50:47 PM  
That's about what I drink in a day now that I have seriously cut back.

Back when I had my kegorator 30-50 beer nights were common. I figured I had to dial er back before the ol' liver beat its way out of my body.

//Wisconsinite
 
2012-01-10 10:59:14 PM  
Last time I was at the doctor, they asked me if I had consumed more than 4 alcoholic drinks on any one day in the past month. It was December, and I had had a few at Thanksgiving (normally I rarely drink). This triggered some kind of mandatory alcohol counseling with the doctor. To his credit, he accepted my explanation that it had been Thanksgiving and rather impatiently changed the subject. So, yeah, there seems to be a big push to identify "binge" drinking, defined pretty broadly.
 
2012-01-10 11:09:37 PM  

cbathrob: Last time I was at the doctor, they asked me if I had consumed more than 4 alcoholic drinks on any one day in the past month. It was December, and I had had a few at Thanksgiving (normally I rarely drink). This triggered some kind of mandatory alcohol counseling with the doctor. To his credit, he accepted my explanation that it had been Thanksgiving and rather impatiently changed the subject. So, yeah, there seems to be a big push to identify "binge" drinking, defined pretty broadly.


WAT?
 
2012-01-10 11:22:08 PM  

Gothnet: Emposter: I don't drink at all (got nothing against people who do, I just don't like it), and even I think 4 drinks 4 times a month is pathetic.

/friends convinced me to drink on graduation
//had 4 drinks 4 times that NIGHT

Well from what I've been reading you really ought to start! It's good for the heart, drinkers live longer and have far fewer strokes!


Worry not, I still have bacon and explosives, the other two parts of the Fark trinity. I'll be OK.
 
2012-01-10 11:23:27 PM  

Sabyen91: cbathrob: Last time I was at the doctor, they asked me if I had consumed more than 4 alcoholic drinks on any one day in the past month. It was December, and I had had a few at Thanksgiving (normally I rarely drink). This triggered some kind of mandatory alcohol counseling with the doctor. To his credit, he accepted my explanation that it had been Thanksgiving and rather impatiently changed the subject. So, yeah, there seems to be a big push to identify "binge" drinking, defined pretty broadly.

WAT?


depends on the system. in systems that care about prevention it would. for example, the va often screens for alcohol misuse since they understand that lots of va-users will be in the va system for life. thus, an ounce of prevention...
 
2012-01-10 11:25:10 PM  

A Fark Handle: Sabyen91: cbathrob: Last time I was at the doctor, they asked me if I had consumed more than 4 alcoholic drinks on any one day in the past month. It was December, and I had had a few at Thanksgiving (normally I rarely drink). This triggered some kind of mandatory alcohol counseling with the doctor. To his credit, he accepted my explanation that it had been Thanksgiving and rather impatiently changed the subject. So, yeah, there seems to be a big push to identify "binge" drinking, defined pretty broadly.

WAT?

depends on the system. in systems that care about prevention it would. for example, the va often screens for alcohol misuse since they understand that lots of va-users will be in the va system for life. thus, an ounce of prevention...


That isn't prevention, that is a money-making scam.
 
2012-01-10 11:33:32 PM  

Sabyen91: A Fark Handle: Sabyen91: cbathrob: Last time I was at the doctor, they asked me if I had consumed more than 4 alcoholic drinks on any one day in the past month. It was December, and I had had a few at Thanksgiving (normally I rarely drink). This triggered some kind of mandatory alcohol counseling with the doctor. To his credit, he accepted my explanation that it had been Thanksgiving and rather impatiently changed the subject. So, yeah, there seems to be a big push to identify "binge" drinking, defined pretty broadly.

WAT?

depends on the system. in systems that care about prevention it would. for example, the va often screens for alcohol misuse since they understand that lots of va-users will be in the va system for life. thus, an ounce of prevention...

That isn't prevention, that is a money-making scam.


can't it be both? it's money-savings that they are after. and it's good politically...

preventative medicine and public health are woefully underfunded in america.
 
JVD
2012-01-10 11:44:50 PM  
A standard drink is one 12 oz beer, or one 1.5oz shot.

When I pour myself a glass of scotch it has 4 standard drinks in it.

Alvarez agrees that the report is telling in what needs to be done in regards to drinking in the U.S.

"As a country we need do something about this problem and educate people so they can understand the dangers-and in turn it will save lives," he said.



I don't care how bad you think alcohol is. It's not the government's business to worry about how much I drink. Stay the hell out of my personal life.
 
2012-01-10 11:45:16 PM  

Gothnet: Strongbeerrules: I never drink unless I'm alone or with somebody. And like W.C. Fields, I've read so much on the evils of drinking that I've given up reading. Except Stephen King novels.

Then read my link above, drinking is actually really good for you, far better than not drinking.
It does carry severe health risks, especially if you do it too much or if you binge too often, but there are also myriad health benefits that are always completely ignored by those who claim to be warning us about the daemon drink

for our own good.

what, your drink sits in the background performing tasks while you go about your business? :)
 
2012-01-10 11:47:09 PM  

A Fark Handle: Sabyen91: A Fark Handle: Sabyen91: cbathrob: Last time I was at the doctor, they asked me if I had consumed more than 4 alcoholic drinks on any one day in the past month. It was December, and I had had a few at Thanksgiving (normally I rarely drink). This triggered some kind of mandatory alcohol counseling with the doctor. To his credit, he accepted my explanation that it had been Thanksgiving and rather impatiently changed the subject. So, yeah, there seems to be a big push to identify "binge" drinking, defined pretty broadly.

WAT?

depends on the system. in systems that care about prevention it would. for example, the va often screens for alcohol misuse since they understand that lots of va-users will be in the va system for life. thus, an ounce of prevention...

That isn't prevention, that is a money-making scam.

can't it be both? it's money-savings that they are after. and it's good politically...

preventative medicine and public health are woefully underfunded in america.


Agreed, but four drinks is an absurd threshold (especially since they probably mean 1oz servings of 80 proof or the equivalent). If they had set it to something like 7 or 8 which is fairly normal for a problem drinker but fairly rare for a social drinker I think they'd be just as effective at screening without totally pissing off normal people. Seriously if you look through this thread the number realistically claiming more than 7 or 8 in a night on a regular basis is pretty small.
 
2012-01-10 11:48:49 PM  

9beers: I'm at th bar now. I was also at the bar last night. Before that, I was at the bar on Saturday and before that, Thursday.


And any German over the age of five.
 
2012-01-10 11:49:33 PM  
Just got back. Got a little carried away pre-gaming. I think I went over my monthly allowance.
 
2012-01-10 11:51:50 PM  

JudgeMuttonChops: Gothnet: Strongbeerrules: I never drink unless I'm alone or with somebody. And like W.C. Fields, I've read so much on the evils of drinking that I've given up reading. Except Stephen King novels.

Then read my link above, drinking is actually really good for you, far better than not drinking.
It does carry severe health risks, especially if you do it too much or if you binge too often, but there are also myriad health benefits that are always completely ignored by those who claim to be warning us about the daemon drink for our own good.

what, your drink sits in the background performing tasks while you go about your business? :)


Yours doesn't? Weird. Mine have driven me home, made phone calls on my behalf, opened the door to exciting new job opportunities, and had sex for me.
 
2012-01-11 12:06:35 AM  

GAT_00: I swear sometimes I'm the only person on this site that isn't an alcoholic.


I never could trust a teatotaler

/just sayin'
 
2012-01-11 12:11:36 AM  

Kar98: JudgeMuttonChops: Gothnet: Strongbeerrules: I never drink unless I'm alone or with somebody. And like W.C. Fields, I've read so much on the evils of drinking that I've given up reading. Except Stephen King novels.

Then read my link above, drinking is actually really good for you, far better than not drinking.
It does carry severe health risks, especially if you do it too much or if you binge too often, but there are also myriad health benefits that are always completely ignored by those who claim to be warning us about the daemon drink for our own good.

what, your drink sits in the background performing tasks while you go about your business? :)

Yours doesn't? Weird. Mine have driven me home, made phone calls on my behalf, opened the door to exciting new job opportunities, and had sex for me.


you know, you're right.. my drink once smoked a whole bowl on me one evening. "morning JudgeMuttonChops" wasn't very impressed
 
2012-01-11 12:13:10 AM  

JVD: A standard drink is one 12 oz beer, or one 1.5oz shot.

When I pour myself a glass of scotch it has 4 standard drinks in it.

Alvarez agrees that the report is telling in what needs to be done in regards to drinking in the U.S.

"As a country we need do something about this problem and educate people so they can understand the dangers-and in turn it will save lives," he said.


I don't care how bad you think alcohol is. It's not the government's business to worry about how much I drink. Stay the hell out of my personal life.


Their tune will change when the gov't sees how much I spend on alcohol, I'm stimulating the economy
 
2012-01-11 12:24:24 AM  
4 drinks on 4 seperate occasions?
Let's see, back when I was in the service- for the guys living in barracks during the '80's, , that was known as a "weekend".
Friday Afternoon: "Choir Practice".
Friday night- starting shortly after supper: TGIF, let's get half ripped on cheap booze down at the JR club so we can keep flying cheap once we go...
Late friday night/early Saturday Morning: Down-Town! Nursing overpriced booze and trying to pick up something other than the clap. If unsuccessful, after the hangover wears off, it's:
Saturday Night! Nuff said. And for the sports fans in the group, there was always "watch the game on Sunday with a few buddies down at the club" and stop drinking early enough so your eyes don't look like the Japanese navy flag on Monday morning.
 
2012-01-11 12:43:33 AM  

NorCalLos: Mr Rusty Shackleford:

Anyway, the point of my CBS.... if I had 4 drinks 4 times a month and no more, I'd be a farking champion of sobriety. I'm going to try to cull the urges with lots of daily weight lifting and pot.

One strange thing though, the more advanced a drinker I become, the less I get any feeling of a hangover. Instead, I wake up feeling like a million bucks when I'd normally have a pounding headache and feel all pukey. Oh well, I gotta change something - that is the one cool part though.

Have you been screened for mental illness? Excessive alcohol can lead to mania. It could also be that you're just waking up still drunk.




You could be right, and no, I have not been screened. I used to wake up drunk and get all headachy and pukey within a few minutes, but that just doesn't happen anymore. I never feel that warm euphoria while drunk that I now get in place of hangovers. It simply replaced the hangover effect with me, no matter how much I drink and mix it up, dehydrated or not.

It's going on 10 PM and I'm still only 3 swigs into one beer. I think I'm on the wagon, so no afterglow tomorrow.
 
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