RexTalionis: I've, more or less, stopped or tempered my drinking so that it's maybe 2 drinks at most maybe a few times a month. However, the weird thing is, I still have the compulsion to go out and buy liquor and drinks which I will take back to my apartment and not drink. By my count, I have something like 12 bottles of liquor (vodka, gin, brandy, scotch, rum, fenjiu) stored up in my apartment which I do not drink at all, except for the rare occasions where I am entertaining a visitor.

Can you email me some of that booze? I'm out, and I live in a dry county. So, unless I wanna go hang with the 20-somethings at Applebee's, its a 90 minute round trip to likker sto in BG.

/cry for help

"Post Time" starts at 5pm every day of the week. Tradition started by grand parents on down the line. Where it goes from there is subjective.

Smokey the Bare: This is old news for anyone in the Air Force (and possibly the military as a whole). I remember a few years ago they had the 0-0-1-3 campaign (or something like that).

0 underage drinking offenses
0 drinking and driving incidents
1 or fewer drinks an hour
3 drinks in a night

I swear to God I'm not making this up.

My boss is a pilot in the Air Force - I go out of my way to avoid going out with him - especially when he is with his Air Force buddies. Its down right insane how much they can drink.

If I could drink successfully, I probably still would.

Tru Dat

Darth_Lukecash: When you call your relatives to make sure they are stocked with alcohol- it points to not being able to go without a few days. That is addiction. It's painfully obvious.
/from family of alcoholics.
//not mom/dad thankfully.

People addicted to alcohol are wildly delusional about their problem sometimes. A friend recently told me that when he forgets to drink he starts to feel sick. He then proceeded to tell me that he is not an alcoholic, however, because he doesn't feel *emotionally* attached to the alcohol and "doesn't need it and could stop any time" he wants to except he doesn't want to because it makes him feel sick to not drink.

/facepalm

Norv Turner: They need to invent an alcohol without calories.

Thank god it comes without carbs!

1919. But that didn't work out so well.

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Yeah - I'd drink heavily too if the best woman out there looked like Ernest Borgnine in drag

Four or more drinks a month???

Hell, I'm way beyond that this evening.

/It's you and me and the bottle makes three tonight.

No beer until dark - then drink as many as possible until work the next morning.

How does this study handle metric drinking? I mean it isn't my fault the beer is served in a litre mug, it is my fault that I find the beer so amazingly delicious I'll be having at least two beers.

/Bavarian hefeweizen for the win
//American hefe can suck it

duckpoopy: No beer until dark - then drink as many as possible until work the next morning.

clearly you do not live at a northern latitude. up here during the summers one has to drink in the daylight because the night comes so late.

duckpoopy: No beer until dark - then drink as many as possible until work the next morning.



/never has a drink before Tom Brokaw
//obscure?

Satanic_Hamster: So having a full bottle of wine a night is a bad thing, then?

:(

I think that should only qualify as one drink.

RexTalionis: Thanks for the Meme-ries: IoSaturnalia: juvandy: How long will it be till booze is demonized the same as nicotine to the point that nobody does it?

1919. But that didn't work out so well.

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Half of those women look like Lou Costello.

I don't want to get to first....

To Hell with second....

Don't even show me third....

Butt-ugly? Oh, he's our shortstop!

/try the veal

I'd be shocked if I weren't some level of alcoholic. I intend to have one beer maximum this evening. Let's see how that turns out.

The main kicker for me though... booze is affecting my sexual performance, at least twice this week. That is absolutely infuriating. farking whiskey dick. Then I found these Trader Joes 3 dollar six packs of moderately quaffable lager. Goddamn it, I drank 18 of them last night on top of about 5 double bourbons and still could've probably passed a sobriety test. That's not good no matter how you slice it.

Anyway, the point of my CBS.... if I had 4 drinks 4 times a month and no more, I'd be a farking champion of sobriety. I'm going to try to cull the urges with lots of daily weight lifting and pot.

One strange thing though, the more advanced a drinker I become, the less I get any feeling of a hangover. Instead, I wake up feeling like a million bucks when I'd normally have a pounding headache and feel all pukey. Oh well, I gotta change something - that is the one cool part though.

TommyymmoT: WHY I DRINK

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Whoops... Missed yours.... Gud jorb...

Darth_Lukecash: When you call your relatives to make sure they are stocked with alcohol- it points to not being able to go without a few days. That is addiction

No, that's preparing your environment to match your expectations. It's any activity commonly called "planning and preparation" and most people consider it a positive attribute necessary for a successful life as an independent adult.

If you were going someplace you suspected might low on toilet paper you'd probably coordinate with other people at that location and bring some along if they were running short -- you can call that "addiction" if you want, but if you do so you've made the word irrelevant in any medical context.

I'm not saying you can't be addicted to alcohol (or toilet paper). I'm just saying that preparation for and frequency of a behavior are not indicators of an addiction, at least not on their own.

So I'm guessing that going through two fifths of whiskey a week would be considered too much?

I don't binge drink often. I'm a steady low-level drinker. 1-2 drinks maybe 5 nights a week. A glass of wine or a beer with dinner will hardly make me a drunk. Or the bourbon. Or scotch. Or other whiskey. And gin. And if it does, fark it.


/alcoholics go to meetings
//Old Potrero Rye right now - mmmmmm

Satanic_Hamster: So having a full bottle of wine a night is a bad thing, then?

:(

Good wine is food and part of a civilized meal. We drink a bottle of wine with dinner every night - 2 generous glasses in a bottle. I don't consider that drinking.
Spending the evening knocking back martinis is drinking.

I have 8+ drinks (counting a beer or a shot of whiskey as 1 drink) 3 times a week.

4 times a month? Yeah, as others have said, that would be known as a sober month.

bravian:

My boss is a pilot in the Air Force - I go out of my way to avoid going out with him - especially when he is with his Air Force buddies. Its down right insane how much they can drink.

I've only hung out with one group of people who can out drink Air Force occifers, and that is the Brits.

I'm at th bar now. I was also at the bar last night. Before that, I was at the bar on Saturday and before that, Thursday.

I only start drinking when my liver stops hurting.

Champion Jack Dupree - Drinkin' Wine Spo-Dee-O-Dee (new window)

wademh: So I'm guessing that going through two fifths of whiskey a week would be considered too much?

Yes. You should be buying 1.75L 'handles' - it's cheaper.

I like that I was halfway through reading this thread before realizing I was sipping a beer.

Big Bad Voodoo Daddy: "You & Me & the Bottle Makes 3" (new window)

BEER & HEALTH RANT!!!!! CALLL THE CDC!!!!!!

I generally have great respect for people and organizations that use knowledge and scientific research to promote health and health awareness....but when they spend a lot of their time and money pumping out arbitrary bullshiat based on the unscientific social politics of prohibitionists, it makes me wish that organizations like the Centers for Disease Control could find the necessary discipline to stick to causes that have to do with actual, real diseases- you know, diseases which infect innocent people, can be spread to people against their will, put whole populations at risk, and can sometimes be prevented or cured by spreading relevant medical information and/or providing treatment. Applying shame-based, fact-free labels to people who enjoy their free time in a certain way is not helping anybody, and is taking funding away from important causes and real victims just so they can throw stones at people who don't live up to their silly prohibitionist standards.


For the record, since this appears to be the habit-bragging thread....my meaningless, personal, anecdotal experience:

I smoke roughly a pack of Camels a day, I smoke weed whenever I farking feel like it(pretty much daily), I eat red meat and dark meat poultry all the time as part of a healthy and varied diet, and I drink anywhere from roughly two to six cocktails, or three to ten beers every single day. I never bother with counting at the time and I stop when I feel like it, not because of some pre-determined number. I've been following this regimen for almost twenty years now, and I am one of the healthiest, happiest people I know or have ever known. At 39 years old, I look my age or younger, I'm physically and sexually active, I rarely get sick at all, my moods and emotional states are steady, positive, and calm, my mental acuity and memory are undiminished, my IQ is still well above average like it was as a youth, I have a good day almost every single day, and I sleep like a baby, 4-9 hours per night as needed.

The only people I know who are any "healthier" than me are practically amateur athletes-they don't have a single fun habit, they talk stupid shiat and look down on those who do all the time, and they waste good money to work out at a gym several days a week. Good for them and all, but I couldn't enjoy life if I had to live their military-like regimen just to be in slightly better shape. And most of them get sick more than I do, complain about aches and pains more than I do, injure themselves more than I do, and none of them get any more work done than I do. I wish people would take some farking responsibility for themselves, use some honest reasoning to mellow their opinions of others, and quit trying to label, shame, stigmatize, penalize, and criminalize my lifestyle because of their shiatty genes, shiatty upbringing, mental instability, fear of social disapproval, and/or lack of motivation and self-control.

I will admit-since I started working a desk job a few years ago instead of doing physical labor, it is easier to gain weight....at my worst, I was almost 30 pounds overweight on a 6'4" frame....THE HORROR!!!!!! A MODEST BEER BELLY!!! Call the CDC!!!! (And all I had to do to lose it was start walking home from work a few days a week, cut my Coca-Cola intake by half, and start cooking my red meat at home more often instead of eating fast food.)

Almost beer&bong-thirty! Sweet! Tonight, it's a sixer or so of Rolling Rock, some Super Purp Kush, Sirloin steaks w/ rice pilaf and spinach or brussles sprouts, and a dvd of Rifftrax shorts before settling down and re-reading a few chapters of Cosmos or maybe starting a new novel before bed...

Alright....all the BS aside....I don't know how I can stand this horrible, dysfunctional, misery filled experience of slavery to addiction! PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!! PLEASE HELP ME FLIP THESE STEAKS, GRAB A FRESH BREW, AND FIND MY LIGHTER, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!

Cheers, Farkers-It's Tuesday and we're all still alive!

I like these studies where everyone is everything all the time, everywhere.

GAT_00: I swear sometimes I'm the only person on this site that isn't an alcoholic.

You say that like it's a good thing....

Canned Tamales: BEER & HEALTH RANT!!!!! CALLL THE CDC!!!!!!

I can largely ditto this. But, I'm kinda fat, and 40 lbs overweight on a 5'11" frame is much harder to hide. But yeah, things are different for different people. Government endorsed broad generalizations are the worst kind.

Stupid idiots that classify normal social drinking as alcoholism only hurt the general populations willingness to deal with real cases. Just about every adult who is not a teatotaler will spend some significant part of their life drinking 4 drinks at least once a week without suffering any damage and so will blow off anyone talking about the dire consequences of alcoholism.

I'm fortunate in that I did not inherit the gene for alcoholism that is carried by both sides of my family, but I have seen what real alcoholism can do and it's not pretty. My cousin lost his job, house, wife, and for most of her childhood his daughter because the next drink was more important than any of it. A friend has a cousin who went into complete renal failure and was placed into hospice where he miraculously regained 20% function in one kidney. You'd think he'd be thanking his lucky stars that he survived and live the straight and narrow, nope he's continuing to slowly kill himself, sitting at a bar all jaundiced.

All this binge talk is enough of to drive a man to drink.

Oh, hello there, SN Torpedo!

I have an I.V. setup that drips alcohol directly into my blood.

GAT_00: I swear sometimes I'm the only person on this site that isn't an alcoholic.

Nah, I don't even touch the stuff.

They are counting numbers of drinks per sitting, not amount of alcohol over a specified time period. I see a loophole: the size of the drink doesn't count.

the_colonel: They are counting numbers of drinks per sitting, not amount of alcohol over a specified time period. I see a loophole: the size of the drink doesn't count.

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I want this pool.



One beer officer, I swear.

Soooooo, a bottle of wine a night counts as one drink, right?

Canned Tamales: BEER & HEALTH RANT!!!!! CALLL THE CDC!!!!!!

I generally have great respect for people and organizations that use knowledge and scientific research to promote health and health awareness....but when they spend a lot of their time and money pumping out arbitrary bullshiat based on the unscientific social politics of prohibitionists, it makes me wish that organizations like the Centers for Disease Control could find the necessary discipline to stick to causes that have to do with actual, real diseases- you know, diseases which infect innocent people, can be spread to people against their will, put whole populations at risk, and can sometimes be prevented or cured by spreading relevant medical information and/or providing treatment. Applying shame-based, fact-free labels to people who enjoy their free time in a certain way is not helping anybody, and is taking funding away from important causes and real victims just so they can throw stones at people who don't live up to their silly prohibitionist standards.


For the record, since this appears to be the habit-bragging thread....my meaningless, personal, anecdotal experience:

I smoke roughly a pack of Camels a day, I smoke weed whenever I farking feel like it(pretty much daily), I eat red meat and dark meat poultry all the time as part of a healthy and varied diet, and I drink anywhere from roughly two to six cocktails, or three to ten beers every single day. I never bother with counting at the time and I stop when I feel like it, not because of some pre-determined number. I've been following this regimen for almost twenty years now, and I am one of the healthiest, happiest people I know or have ever known. At 39 years old, I look my age or younger, I'm physically and sexually active, I rarely get sick at all, my moods and emotional states are steady, positive, and calm, my mental acuity and memory are undiminished, my IQ is still well above average like it was as a youth, I have a good day almost every single day, and I sleep like a baby, 4-9 hours per night as needed.

The only people I know who are any "healthier" than me are practically amateur athletes-they don't have a single fun habit, they talk stupid shiat and look down on those who do all the time, and they waste good money to work out at a gym several days a week. Good for them and all, but I couldn't enjoy life if I had to live their military-like regimen just to be in slightly better shape. And most of them get sick more than I do, complain about aches and pains more than I do, injure themselves more than I do, and none of them get any more work done than I do. I wish people would take some farking responsibility for themselves, use some honest reasoning to mellow their opinions of others, and quit trying to label, shame, stigmatize, penalize, and criminalize my lifestyle because of their shiatty genes, shiatty upbringing, mental instability, fear of social disapproval, and/or lack of motivation and self-control.

I will admit-since I started working a desk job a few years ago instead of doing physical labor, it is easier to gain weight....at my worst, I was almost 30 pounds overweight on a 6'4" frame....THE HORROR!!!!!! A MODEST BEER BELLY!!! Call the CDC!!!! (And all I had to do to lose it was start walking home from work a few days a week, cut my Coca-Cola intake by half, and start cooking my red meat at home more often instead of eating fast food.)

Almost beer&bong-thirty! Sweet! Tonight, it's a sixer or so of Rolling Rock, some Super Purp Kush, Sirloin steaks w/ rice pilaf and spinach or brussles sprouts, and a dvd of Rifftrax shorts before settling down and re-reading a few chapters of Cosmos or maybe starting a new novel before bed...

Alright....all the BS aside....I don't know how I can stand this horrible, dysfunctional, misery filled experience of slavery to addiction! PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!! PLEASE HELP ME FLIP THESE STEAKS, GRAB A FRESH BREW, AND FIND MY LIGHTER, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!

Cheers, Farkers-It's Tuesday and we're all still alive!

This was an awesome post.

I just started brewing my own beer so I'm really getting a kick

/Northern Brewer has a kick ass starter kit for the money
//Go with the deluxe and get glass carboys
///I;m growing some bottles right now

paulseta: We Australians laugh heartily at this, and then down another bottle.

4 or more drinks 4 times a month? 4 or more drinks is a warm-up for *lunch* here.


You must be in some other Australia. I moved here from the UK about two years ago and in that time we in the office have been to the pub for lunch.... ONCE.
To be fair, I am in perth, so you may well be in the other Australia where things actually happen sometimes, and there are people and stuff...


Also yeah, these stories piss me off. British media run them every so often. The government or the medical associations or someone, every so often, will publish a story about how bad it is for women to drink more than 1 or 2 units of alcohol in a single day (i.e. no more than one small glass of wine) and how men should never have more than 3 or 4 (a pint and a half, maybe two pints), AND have at least two completely alcohol free days a week (this is the latest one). Apparently if we contravene these rules we will all die at 45 of alcoholic complications.

Seemingly they ignore the fact that the percentage of people who stick to this regimen is tiny. Even amongst the not-much-of-a-drinker crowd in the UK people will drink more than one or two glasses of booze on a social evening.

The weird thing is that they seem pretty sincere in the message. I can only assume that the people they survey to get their figures and averages to work from, are all liars.

Either that or it's another case of "Message more important than accuracy", in which public communications are exaggerated, overemphasised and in some cases flat out lies, because it's considered better to find a middle point and scare people a bit or they won't reign in their behaviour at all. Me, I think that sort of thing ought to be illegal, but hey.

Finally I leave you with this list of interesting facts, including the fact that abstainers die younger than moderate or even heavy drinkers. Also moderate to heavy consumption of alcohol lowers your risk of osteoporosis, diabetes, alzheimers, heart problems, enlarged prostate, stroke and many other things. Apparently, as far as heart health is concerned, even exercise cannot replace the alcohol effect.

So remember kids, you want to live forever (or at least longer than a non-drinker), open a beer or two every day.

I never drink unless I'm alone or with somebody. And like W.C. Fields, I've read so much on the evils of drinking that I've given up reading. Except Stephen King novels.


//ducks flying rotten eggs and fruit//